Re: more stinkin s p a m
On 10/29/06, Jeffrey Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but much of this increased s p a m is coming from list addresses. I was pretty cautious about becoming a 'List' member, spam being the real concern, so I specifically set up this address purely for that purpose. It lasted a little over 2 months before I started getting spam, and as mentioned here, of late it seems to have gone up a notch or two. Currently I get about 2 to 3 times more spam at this address than at my regular address, which is over 12 years old. Then again this list gets about 2 times more posts to it than I get to my regular email address. Gmail seems to do a pretty good job at sending spam to the spam folder, it's never missed one, and only occasionally does a real email slip into the spam folder. Interestingly, at the same time I set this address up I set up another gmail address, along the lines of [EMAIL PROTECTED] (not the real address because I don't want who/what is trolling this list to add to it's catch) which I use anytime a company/gov/org/survey/registration wants an email address. I figured that this would soon be bombarded with emails from 'others' who had obtained my email because they were a parent co./subsiduary/partner/co-dept etc etc, but this has not been the case. It has also remained spam free. It also only gets about 100th the posts compared to this list. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more stinkin s p a m
Martin, Your e-mail address sits on hundreds if not thousands of computers, as soon as you send an e-mail to this list. Everybody on this list receives spam with a certainty of 100%, unless the person has a very good spam filter installed. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 28-okt-2006, om 13:49 heeft Martin Baxter het volgende geschreven: I wrote Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:32:03 +0100 Just resubscribed with a different email having got an, um, unsolicited email advert to my old userev mailbox, which was only used for this list and occasionally communicating with other list- members. Could have been a lucky guess I suppose, but it wasn't an obviously guessable address. See if I get any more on this new one. Martin Baxter Yep I just got spam to my recently-created, dedicated userev mailbox. So I'm now 99% percent sure that a spammer must be harvesting this list. Martin Baxter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
more stinkin s p a m
I wrote Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:32:03 +0100 Just resubscribed with a different email having got an, um, unsolicited email advert to my old userev mailbox, which was only used for this list and occasionally communicating with other list-members. Could have been a lucky guess I suppose, but it wasn't an obviously guessable address. See if I get any more on this new one. Martin Baxter Yep I just got spam to my recently-created, dedicated userev mailbox. So I'm now 99% percent sure that a spammer must be harvesting this list. Martin Baxter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] more stinkin s p a m
I'm not so sure someone is harvesting the list. I use a very specific address for posting here (runrev at ...) and the only messages I receive at the alias are from the list and RunRev itself. Granted, I've been using gmane for the past several months, and that obscures my address, but there have been enough posts prior to that to have been harvested by now. There is also the possibility that Mark hints at below (I think?) that someone who has your email in their address book has had their system compromised. Most spam is sent these days via zombies -- computers that have been infected by a virus/trojan/worm. The malware installs silently, harvests your various contacts lists, and even sends out email via your mail server. Mark Schonewille wrote: Your e-mail address sits on hundreds if not thousands of computers, as soon as you send an e-mail to this list. Everybody on this list receives spam with a certainty of 100%, unless the person has a very good spam filter installed. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more stinkin s p a m
Hi Mark, Yes, I realise that. However, I had been using a dedicated address for this list for a long time, and never had any spam sent to *it* until 2 weeks ago. I think that indicates that despite the potential for abuse, this list was actually a clean channel until recently. I will take appropriate measures, of course. Martin Mark Schonewille wrote: Martin, Your e-mail address sits on hundreds if not thousands of computers, as soon as you send an e-mail to this list. Everybody on this list receives spam with a certainty of 100%, unless the person has a very good spam filter installed. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 28-okt-2006, om 13:49 heeft Martin Baxter het volgende geschreven: I wrote Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:32:03 +0100 Just resubscribed with a different email having got an, um, unsolicited email advert to my old userev mailbox, which was only used for this list and occasionally communicating with other list-members. Could have been a lucky guess I suppose, but it wasn't an obviously guessable address. See if I get any more on this new one. Martin Baxter Yep I just got spam to my recently-created, dedicated userev mailbox. So I'm now 99% percent sure that a spammer must be harvesting this list. Martin Baxter ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] more stinkin s p a m
Hi Martin, The email address in question is 10 days old and has never been used outside of this list. One more reason to access the list via your newsgroup reader and gmane then :) Best of luck! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] more stinkin s p a m
Hi Bill, When I say harvested I'm not using the word in any technical or specific sense, I just mean that a spammer is getting my list email address somehow, I make no assumption about the mechanism involved. The email address in question is 10 days old and has never been used outside of this list. Martin Bill Marriott wrote: I'm not so sure someone is harvesting the list. I use a very specific address for posting here (runrev at ...) and the only messages I receive at the alias are from the list and RunRev itself. Granted, I've been using gmane for the past several months, and that obscures my address, but there have been enough posts prior to that to have been harvested by now. There is also the possibility that Mark hints at below (I think?) that someone who has your email in their address book has had their system compromised. Most spam is sent these days via zombies -- computers that have been infected by a virus/trojan/worm. The malware installs silently, harvests your various contacts lists, and even sends out email via your mail server. Mark Schonewille wrote: Your e-mail address sits on hundreds if not thousands of computers, as soon as you send an e-mail to this list. Everybody on this list receives spam with a certainty of 100%, unless the person has a very good spam filter installed. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more stinkin s p a m
or, to be fair, a virus harvesting the address book of a windows-using list member is more likely. Yep I just got spam to my recently-created, dedicated userev mailbox. So I'm now 99% percent sure that a spammer must be harvesting this list. Martin Baxter -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more stinkin s p a m
Stephen Barncard wrote: or, to be fair, a virus harvesting the address book of a windows-using list member is more likely. Yep I just got spam to my recently-created, dedicated userev mailbox. So I'm now 99% percent sure that a spammer must be harvesting this list. Martin Baxter I'm sorry if I've been unfair, I just wanted to have a whinge about spam really. :-) Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more stinkin s p a m [OT]
a well crafted virus would be a likely sender/spreader of spam. We be talking about the same thing here. It would help if more people would use firewalls and secure their LANs. Stephen Barncard wrote: or, to be fair, a virus harvesting the address book of a windows-using list member is more likely. Yep I just got spam to my recently-created, dedicated userev mailbox. So I'm now 99% percent sure that a spammer must be harvesting this list. Martin Baxter I'm sorry if I've been unfair, I just wanted to have a whinge about spam really. :-) Martin -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] more stinkin s p a m
(adding Stephen to my address book...) :^) Stephen Barncard wrote... or, to be fair, a virus harvesting the address book of a windows-using list member is more likely. Yep I just got spam to my recently-created, dedicated userev mailbox. So I'm now 99% percent sure that a spammer must be harvesting this list. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: more stinkin s p a m
Martin, I too have had a very large increase in spam over the last few weeks thats seeping through a couple layers of s p a m filters. many are coming from a few email addresses i use for lists. unfortunately i have not set up emails for each individual list, but much of this increased s p a m is coming from list addresses. I was about to up all the spam filters a notch or two. cheers, jeff On Oct 28, 2006, at 1:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, Yes, I realise that. However, I had been using a dedicated address for this list for a long time, and never had any spam sent to *it* until 2 weeks ago. I think that indicates that despite the potential for abuse, this list was actually a clean channel until recently. I will take appropriate measures, of course. Martin ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: more stinkin s p a m
At my company 97% of incoming email is spam. It is simply a huge problem. Bill Vlahos On Oct 28, 2006, at 11:37 AM, Jeffrey Reynolds wrote: Martin, I too have had a very large increase in spam over the last few weeks thats seeping through a couple layers of s p a m filters. many are coming from a few email addresses i use for lists. unfortunately i have not set up emails for each individual list, but much of this increased s p a m is coming from list addresses. I was about to up all the spam filters a notch or two. cheers, jeff ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
