Re: too many fields, too many cards?

2006-11-30 Thread Timothy Miller

Thanks to all on this thread. What would I do without you guys?

Comments are all constructive and sensible. I think I might have even  
understood them all!


The tentative plan, for my stacks, is not to fix them because they  
don't seem broke.


Cheers,


Tim


On Nov 29, 2006, at 8:22 PM, Jim Ault wrote:

On 11/29/06 5:48 PM, Timothy Miller  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

wrote:


Have I understood the general idea here? Am I overlooking anything
fundamental? Is it reasonable to leave well enough alone, as long as
I can find stuff in stacks this large, when I need to?


As an ex-HCard programmer I can say you got the idea and I would  
stay just

as you are.

On advantage you have is the medical history is not changed or  
rewritten, so

most of your modifications simply add to the data stored.



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too many fields, too many cards?

2006-11-29 Thread Timothy Miller
A long time ago, I complained to bugzilla that the native RR search  
stack is way too slow. Personally, I've found ways to work around  
that. I still think it's an unnecessary embarrassment for RR, that  
wouldn't be very hard to fix. But, that's not why I called.


Someone made this comment about my complaint. I don't doubt the  
constructive spirit of the comment, but I have a few questions about it.


The comment, in part:



Then again, one should not store data in fields on 100s of cards.  
Instead, store
your data in a custom property or a text file. Although the search  
stack could
be greatly improved by making it much simpler, the problem is  
mainly caused by

the approach chosen by the programmer.



My reply, in part:

I have a stack called Patient information. The purpose is obvious.  
For each patient, there are dozens of items I need to keep track of  
-- more than 100, really. Name, address, various phones, diagnosis,  
referring MD, referring MD's ID number, patient's ID number, group  
number, account number, employer, etc. That's only a representative  
sample. I do a lot of complex chores with this stack, so there are at  
least fifty bg buttons, too. At any given time, I have records on  
maybe 500 patients.


The stack works fine in every respect, except the RR search stack  
is way too slow. I've written several of my own specialized search  
scripts for this stack and others. They meet my needs and are plenty  
fast. I avoid the native Search stack.


A field for each item and a card for each patient is the only way I  
know how to do what I need to do.


I guess the alternative is to use a database, with SQL inquiries.  
That would be faster, once I made the conversion, but this stack  
started as HyperCard and has grown and evolved over many years. I  
can't afford to spend the time to re-write it from scratch, and learn  
how to use a database and SQL along the way. It would take a hundred  
hours, or more.


I guess you're suggesting the stack could read from a custom property  
or a text file to fill in the fields in just one card, based on a  
unique identifier for each patient. That's not too much different  
from a database inquiry, if I understand you. I guess I could search  
faster that way, in theory, but otherwise, I don't see the advantage.



My question:

Have I understood the general idea here? Am I overlooking anything  
fundamental? Is it reasonable to leave well enough alone, as long as  
I can find stuff in stacks this large, when I need to?


Thanks in advance,


Tim
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Re: too many fields, too many cards?

2006-11-29 Thread Mark Smith


On 30 Nov 2006, at 01:48, Timothy Miller wrote:

I guess you're suggesting the stack could read from a custom  
property or a text file to fill in the fields in just one card,  
based on a unique identifier for each patient. That's not too much  
different from a database inquiry, if I understand you. I guess I  
could search faster that way, in theory, but otherwise, I don't see  
the advantage.



My question:

Have I understood the general idea here? Am I overlooking anything  
fundamental? Is it reasonable to leave well enough alone, as long  
as I can find stuff in stacks this large, when I need to?


I think you've understood the suggestion perfectly.

My own approach would be to store the data for each patient in an  
customPropertySet, which is really an array (each one named the same  
as the patient, maybe, and each key of which I'd name the same as the  
field you're currently using), so to populate a single card stack:


on showPatient patientName
  put the customProperties[patientName] of me into tPatientArray
  repeat for each line K in the keys of tPatientArray
put tPatientArray[K]  into fld K
  end repeat
end showPatient

and to store, after making changes

on storePatient patientName
  repeat for with n = 1 to the number of flds
 put fld n into patientArray[the short name of fld n]
  end repeat
  set the customProperties[patientName] of me to patientArray
end storePatient

Something like this, anyway.

But if it's working well for you as it is, then?

Best,

Mark
 
 
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Re: too many fields, too many cards?

2006-11-29 Thread J. Landman Gay

Mark Smith wrote:


On 30 Nov 2006, at 01:48, Timothy Miller wrote:

I guess you're suggesting the stack could read from a custom property 
or a text file to fill in the fields in just one card, based on a 
unique identifier for each patient. That's not too much different from 
a database inquiry, if I understand you. I guess I could search faster 
that way, in theory, but otherwise, I don't see the advantage.



My question:

Have I understood the general idea here? Am I overlooking anything 
fundamental? Is it reasonable to leave well enough alone, as long as I 
can find stuff in stacks this large, when I need to?


I think you've understood the suggestion perfectly.

My own approach would be to store the data for each patient in an 
customPropertySet


But that would make searching across the patient base even harder, 
wouldn't it? He might end up having to ask about matchtext or something...


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HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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