Re: [Neo4j] Online backups for single instance using community edition
Johannes, if you can make sure that no transaction are in progress, then copying files should work, too. Would that help? You could for instance for a brief period block mutating requests to your webservice, commit all transactions and copy the store files. Cheers, /peter neubauer GTalk: neubauer.peter Skype peter.neubauer Phone +46 704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - Your high performance graph database. http://startupbootcamp.org/ - Öresund - Innovation happens HERE. http://www.thoughtmade.com - Scandinavia's coolest Bring-a-Thing party. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Haensel thehaen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am using the neo4j community edition in a PHP webapp that I am currently developing and found it to be a really cool solution for my project. It is a small project and I am just a single guy developing it so I am nowhere near needing HA or sharding capabilities. Here is the problem I see with neo4j in any form of webapp (SaaS): To be able to create an online backup you'll have to use the enterprise edition (=2000 dollars a month) or you are forced to shutdown the service for a short period of time (most likely multiple times per day) which can be an absolute no-go for a webapp. So my question is: Is there another method of doing an online backup for a single neo4j instance? I thought about traversing the whole graph and creating a second graph filled with the result. I could then shutdown the second instance and just backup the files old school style. This sounds super ugly, but maybe it is a way to think about. I am fine with solutions that would require some additional developing. If the only solution is to use the enterprise edition than I would highly suggest some alternative ways for the next neo4j releases as this would prevent a lot of webdevelopers from using the product. It would be nice to have a way to do online backups for a single instance only so the benefits of the advanced and enterprise editions would still exist. Anyways, thanks for your time and answers Greetings from Austria, Hannes -- View this message in context: http://neo4j-community-discussions.438527.n3.nabble.com/Online-backups-for-single-instance-using-community-edition-tp3415246p3415246.html Sent from the Neo4j Community Discussions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user
Re: [Neo4j] Online backups for single instance using community edition
I thought about that, yes, but I think it can easily become tricky in my
case. If it is the only way than I have to do some magic at the application
layer to tell users that they currently can't post comments but the read
access would be vital.
What about exporting a graph with g.saveGraphGML('backuped.xml')? I could do
this by using curl to post to the gremlin plugin but I am not quite sure how
this is implemented yet. I assume it creates a snapshot of the current graph
without including non finished transactions (which would be fine). If
anything happens to the db I'll read in the exported file again. Is this a
considerable way of solving the issue (for moderately sized graphs) or am I
missing something obvious?
Greetings,
Hannes
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[Neo4j] Online backups for single instance using community edition
Hi, I am using the neo4j community edition in a PHP webapp that I am currently developing and found it to be a really cool solution for my project. It is a small project and I am just a single guy developing it so I am nowhere near needing HA or sharding capabilities. Here is the problem I see with neo4j in any form of webapp (SaaS): To be able to create an online backup you'll have to use the enterprise edition (=2000 dollars a month) or you are forced to shutdown the service for a short period of time (most likely multiple times per day) which can be an absolute no-go for a webapp. So my question is: Is there another method of doing an online backup for a single neo4j instance? I thought about traversing the whole graph and creating a second graph filled with the result. I could then shutdown the second instance and just backup the files old school style. This sounds super ugly, but maybe it is a way to think about. I am fine with solutions that would require some additional developing. If the only solution is to use the enterprise edition than I would highly suggest some alternative ways for the next neo4j releases as this would prevent a lot of webdevelopers from using the product. It would be nice to have a way to do online backups for a single instance only so the benefits of the advanced and enterprise editions would still exist. Anyways, thanks for your time and answers Greetings from Austria, Hannes -- View this message in context: http://neo4j-community-discussions.438527.n3.nabble.com/Online-backups-for-single-instance-using-community-edition-tp3415246p3415246.html Sent from the Neo4j Community Discussions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user
