Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks
Hi *, I would like to share my experiences from the ApacheCon EU in Sinsheim with you. The conference was fully booked and most of the people where interested in topics like BigData, Search or Databases. The OFBiz talks were also well attended. It turned out that many of the listeners are evaluating the system at the moment and they took this chance to ask questions. One point, which we had to discuss several times, is the complexity of the backend and the missing marketing. We had a really great time in Sinsheim, pretty good food and a lot of interesting discussions. Many thanks to Sebastian, Paul, Olivier, Nicolas for your talks. We should upload our slides and the photos von Christian ASAP. Best regards Sascha 2012/11/11 Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)? Thanks Jacopo On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote: Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz: Hi, ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/ [..] I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra, ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, - Tuesday 6th evening - Wednesday 7th lunch Time - Wednesday 7th evening These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on who is present. Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and which subject would be interesting and/or important. I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the details yet) and looking forward to meet you. Christian -- Sascha Rodekamp Visit the new german OFBiz Blog: http://www.ofbiz.biz Lynx-Consulting GmbH Johanniskirchplatz 6 D-33615 Bielefeld http://www.lynx.de
OFBiz Alliance and Growerp, was: Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks
Thank you Sacha, for the report, concerning marketing, we are trying to solve that with the ofbizalliance.com concerning complexity we started GrowERP open source based on OFBiz at growerp.com things are moving slowly but hope to have the alliance website on-line this month. Growerp we expect to have a usable version before the end of this year currently we have 36 companies interested in the alliance and 7 companies interested in the founding ofbiz alliance discussion: http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4550075 (one contact per company currently) Growerp discussion at: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Grow-ERP-open-source-ERP-4576897 free to join. Regards, Hans On 11/12/2012 03:03 PM, Sascha Rodekamp wrote: Hi *, I would like to share my experiences from the ApacheCon EU in Sinsheim with you. The conference was fully booked and most of the people where interested in topics like BigData, Search or Databases. The OFBiz talks were also well attended. It turned out that many of the listeners are evaluating the system at the moment and they took this chance to ask questions. One point, which we had to discuss several times, is the complexity of the backend and the missing marketing. We had a really great time in Sinsheim, pretty good food and a lot of interesting discussions. Many thanks to Sebastian, Paul, Olivier, Nicolas for your talks. We should upload our slides and the photos von Christian ASAP. Best regards Sascha 2012/11/11 Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)? Thanks Jacopo On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote: Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz: Hi, ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/ [..] I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra, ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, - Tuesday 6th evening - Wednesday 7th lunch Time - Wednesday 7th evening These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on who is present. Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and which subject would be interesting and/or important. I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the details yet) and looking forward to meet you. Christian
Re: OFBiz Alliance and Growerp, was: Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks
Keep coming, GrowERP (mr Hans) Cheers 2012/11/12 Hans Bakker h.bak...@antwebsystems.com Thank you Sacha, for the report, concerning marketing, we are trying to solve that with the ofbizalliance.com concerning complexity we started GrowERP open source based on OFBiz at growerp.com things are moving slowly but hope to have the alliance website on-line this month. Growerp we expect to have a usable version before the end of this year currently we have 36 companies interested in the alliance and 7 companies interested in the founding ofbiz alliance discussion: http://www.linkedin.com/**groups?gid=4550075http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=4550075 (one contact per company currently) Growerp discussion at: http://www.linkedin.com/**groups/Grow-ERP-open-source-**ERP-4576897http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Grow-ERP-open-source-ERP-4576897 free to join. Regards, Hans On 11/12/2012 03:03 PM, Sascha Rodekamp wrote: Hi *, I would like to share my experiences from the ApacheCon EU in Sinsheim with you. The conference was fully booked and most of the people where interested in topics like BigData, Search or Databases. The OFBiz talks were also well attended. It turned out that many of the listeners are evaluating the system at the moment and they took this chance to ask questions. One point, which we had to discuss several times, is the complexity of the backend and the missing marketing. We had a really great time in Sinsheim, pretty good food and a lot of interesting discussions. Many thanks to Sebastian, Paul, Olivier, Nicolas for your talks. We should upload our slides and the photos von Christian ASAP. Best regards Sascha 2012/11/11 Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappellato@**hotwaxmedia.comjacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)? Thanks Jacopo On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote: Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz: Hi, ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/ [..] I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra, ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, - Tuesday 6th evening - Wednesday 7th lunch Time - Wednesday 7th evening These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on who is present. Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and which subject would be interesting and/or important. I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the details yet) and looking forward to meet you. Christian -- Tri Chairman www.vssic.com Your FREEmium NETWORK Viet Nam Solution and Service for Information vCloudPortal(Portal) vCloudBusiness(ERP) Sun Certified Enterprise Architect Ipv6: 2001:ee0:0:8001::20 +84922446668
AW: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks
Hi guys, Perhaps also a small word from my end - I personally attended Nov 7th only, so I am sure there is a lot been covered that I haven't personally experienced (maybe the others can fill in some information there). During the course of the day we had 3 OFBiz Tracks: * One on how to manage OFBiz Addons (Nicolas - Nereide) * One general Introduction to OFBiz and a discussion on our target group (Myself - Paul) * One on OFBiz Extras - its purpose and a proposal (Olivier) As a short wrap-up to those: OFBiz Addons: Nicolas showed us a tool for the management of Patches. The tool has been developed by Nereide and had been used en large internally before. Command-based at this moment, it already features some great methods for merging, applying, and managing different patches. Personally most striking was the idea of perhaps making use of this tool as part of OFBiz in order to manage different installations. There was a debate afterwards on whether or not this could be used as a means of automatically installing directories as well and the idea was raised to incorporate this into an OFBiz Extras project. General Introduction to OFBiz target group: I gave a general overview on the system, before arguing for a proper target group for it. During the track I covered the general size of the project and its implication to corporate sizes which want to make use of it. It was proposed that our target group was mostly mid- to largesize businesses, due to the complex nature of the system. We then went on to have a debate on how to properly address the target group. The following steps were proposed: 1. Rescope the backoffice for different target groups, 2. Redefine the framework structure (OFBiz Extras), 3. Simplify the CMS, 4. Show less make it usable, 5. Keep the target group in mind with marketing material (developers companies) OFBiz Extras: Olivier covered the need for an additional subproject OFBiz Extras in which all supplemental applications should be made part of. The idea is to strip any unnecessary part from the OFBiz framework and focus with OFBiz on the core framework. OFBiz Extras would then contain all applications based upon it. The presentation then went on to propose a system of automatic checks on how to govern the applications. The system would be mostly based on project maturity, code quality (based on automated tests) and documentation. In a heated debate afterwards, the concern was raised to handle this outside the OFBiz core as part of a non-apache project. The concern was made that by stripping core functionalities outside of OFBiz the commiting parties would participate less to it and the ingenuitiy of OFBiz may get lost. All in all, everyone agreed, however, that a subproject of sorts could be beneficial to the overall project scope. Afterwards some of the OFBiz specialists that were available sat down for a private evening discussion. In it we discussed OFBiz Alliance and its implication to the community if it were to happen. The companies at present agreed to contribute more to the community - in particular marketing material which could be used by the general public. Cheers, Paul --- Paul Piper Geschäftsführer Web: http://www.ilscipio.com Tel: (+49) 611-94589441 Mobil: (+49) 176-63283066 Fax: (+49) 611-94589449 eMail: p...@ilscipio.com ilscipio GmbH Am Drosselschlag 7 D-35452 Heuchelheim Germany -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. November 2012 04:23 An: user@ofbiz.apache.org Betreff: Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)? Thanks Jacopo On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote: Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz: Hi, ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/ [..] I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra, ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, - Tuesday 6th evening - Wednesday 7th lunch Time - Wednesday 7th evening These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on who is present. Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and which subject would be interesting and/or important. I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the details yet) and looking forward to meet you. Christian
Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks
Sascha, Paul, thanks for your interesting reports. Jacopo On Nov 12, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Paul Piper wrote: Hi guys, Perhaps also a small word from my end - I personally attended Nov 7th only, so I am sure there is a lot been covered that I haven't personally experienced (maybe the others can fill in some information there). During the course of the day we had 3 OFBiz Tracks: * One on how to manage OFBiz Addons (Nicolas - Nereide) * One general Introduction to OFBiz and a discussion on our target group (Myself - Paul) * One on OFBiz Extras - its purpose and a proposal (Olivier) As a short wrap-up to those: OFBiz Addons: Nicolas showed us a tool for the management of Patches. The tool has been developed by Nereide and had been used en large internally before. Command-based at this moment, it already features some great methods for merging, applying, and managing different patches. Personally most striking was the idea of perhaps making use of this tool as part of OFBiz in order to manage different installations. There was a debate afterwards on whether or not this could be used as a means of automatically installing directories as well and the idea was raised to incorporate this into an OFBiz Extras project. General Introduction to OFBiz target group: I gave a general overview on the system, before arguing for a proper target group for it. During the track I covered the general size of the project and its implication to corporate sizes which want to make use of it. It was proposed that our target group was mostly mid- to largesize businesses, due to the complex nature of the system. We then went on to have a debate on how to properly address the target group. The following steps were proposed: 1. Rescope the backoffice for different target groups, 2. Redefine the framework structure (OFBiz Extras), 3. Simplify the CMS, 4. Show less – make it usable, 5. Keep the target group in mind with marketing material (developers companies) OFBiz Extras: Olivier covered the need for an additional subproject OFBiz Extras in which all supplemental applications should be made part of. The idea is to strip any unnecessary part from the OFBiz framework and focus with OFBiz on the core framework. OFBiz Extras would then contain all applications based upon it. The presentation then went on to propose a system of automatic checks on how to govern the applications. The system would be mostly based on project maturity, code quality (based on automated tests) and documentation. In a heated debate afterwards, the concern was raised to handle this outside the OFBiz core as part of a non-apache project. The concern was made that by stripping core functionalities outside of OFBiz the commiting parties would participate less to it and the ingenuitiy of OFBiz may get lost. All in all, everyone agreed, however, that a subproject of sorts could be beneficial to the overall project scope. Afterwards some of the OFBiz specialists that were available sat down for a private evening discussion. In it we discussed OFBiz Alliance and its implication to the community if it were to happen. The companies at present agreed to contribute more to the community - in particular marketing material which could be used by the general public. Cheers, Paul --- Paul Piper Geschäftsführer Web: http://www.ilscipio.com Tel: (+49) 611-94589441 Mobil: (+49) 176-63283066 Fax: (+49) 611-94589449 eMail: p...@ilscipio.com ilscipio GmbH Am Drosselschlag 7 D-35452 Heuchelheim Germany -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jacopo Cappellato [mailto:jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. November 2012 04:23 An: user@ofbiz.apache.org Betreff: Re: OFBiz track at ApacheCon Europe in 2 weeks Any news from the conference (OFBiz people who attended etc...)? Thanks Jacopo On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Christian Geisert wrote: Am 22.10.2012 18:24, schrieb olivier Heintz: Hi, ApacheCon Europe will be from Monday 5th November to Thursday 8th at Rhein-Neckar-Arena, Sinsheim, Germany. http://www.apachecon.eu/ [..] I proposed to organize 2 or 3 meeting for all present people, to have time to discuss on main OFBiz subject : slim-down, ofbiz-extra, ofbizAlliance, increase collaboration, contribution, - Tuesday 6th evening - Wednesday 7th lunch Time - Wednesday 7th evening These meeting could be discussion or if needed some training of technical point, agenda will be done at the beginning depending on who is present. Say me (directly or on this mailing list) who will be attendee and which subject would be interesting and/or important. I'll be at ApacheCon (probably not on Monday but I don't know the details yet) and looking forward to meet you. Christian
OFBiz General Marketing Information
Hi guys, as I wrote to you on behalf of the apachecon wrap-up we are currently trying to set up a sort of repository for all marketing material. The general idea is that, since most of our companies already created this in one form or the other, it would be good to partially provide it with the rest of the community. Many of the available information are simply not accessible to the larger audience, so this could be of use for anyone. As a first step I generated the following wikipage: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/General+Information+Materi al There we could easily attach all documents and reference them within the proper list. I myself am going to be adding some of our information throughout this week. I also already wrote an email to ASF asking for further material on their end (proper ppt master, logo etc.). Please feel free to provide your own information. Cheers, Paul --- Paul Piper Geschäftsführer Web: http://www.ilscipio.com/ http://www.ilscipio.com Tel: (+49) 611-94589441 Mobil: (+49) 176-63283066 Fax: (+49) 611-94589449 eMail: mailto:p...@ilscipio.com p...@ilscipio.com ilscipio GmbH Am Drosselschlag 7 D-35452 Heuchelheim Germany
Tenant authentication problem in 12.04
Hello, In 12.04 the LoginWorker method setWebContextObjects object doesn't store the delegator, dispatcher, security and the authz in the session only in the request. The effect is that the session for the tenant is not correct and the tenant cannot be used at all with strange effects. For e.g. data are stored with the default delegator. In comparison with the related method in 11.04 if have added the missing lines see below and now the tenant is working correctly again. private static void setWebContextObjects(HttpServletRequest request, HttpServletResponse response, Delegator delegator, LocalDispatcher dispatcher) { HttpSession session = request.getSession(); // NOTE: we do NOT want to set this in the servletContext, only in the request and session // We also need to setup the security and authz objects since they are dependent on the delegator Security security = null; try { security = SecurityFactory.getInstance(delegator); } catch (SecurityConfigurationException e) { Debug.logError(e, module); } Authorization authz = null; try { authz = AuthorizationFactory.getInstance(delegator); } catch (SecurityConfigurationException e) { Debug.logError(e, module); } session.setAttribute(delegatorName, delegator.getDelegatorName()); request.setAttribute(delegator, delegator); //Missing in 12.04 session.setAttribute(delegator, delegator); request.setAttribute(dispatcher, dispatcher); /Missing 12.04 session.setAttribute(dispatcher, dispatcher); request.setAttribute(security, security); //Missing 12.04 session.setAttribute(security, security); request.setAttribute(authz, authz); //Missing 12.04 session.setAttribute(authz, authz); // get rid of the visit info since it was pointing to the previous database, and get a new one session.removeAttribute(visitor); session.removeAttribute(visit); VisitHandler.getVisitor(request, response); VisitHandler.getVisit(session); } Regards Rene
Re: Tenant authentication problem in 12.04
Hi Rene, See changeset 1353681 https://fisheye6.atlassian.com/changelog/ofbiz?cs=1353681 and the discussion on Jira issue OFBIZ-4289 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4289 I hope Jacopo or Jacques have a bit more to say on this. Cheers Paul Foxworthy Rene Frauli wrote Hello, In 12.04 the LoginWorker method setWebContextObjects object doesn't store the delegator, dispatcher, security and the authz in the session only in the request. The effect is that the session for the tenant is not correct and the tenant cannot be used at all with strange effects. For e.g. data are stored with the default delegator. In comparison with the related method in 11.04 if have added the missing lines see below and now the tenant is working correctly again. private static void setWebContextObjects(HttpServletRequest request, HttpServletResponse response, Delegator delegator, LocalDispatcher dispatcher) { HttpSession session = request.getSession(); // NOTE: we do NOT want to set this in the servletContext, only in the request and session // We also need to setup the security and authz objects since they are dependent on the delegator Security security = null; try { security = SecurityFactory.getInstance(delegator); } catch (SecurityConfigurationException e) { Debug.logError(e, module); } Authorization authz = null; try { authz = AuthorizationFactory.getInstance(delegator); } catch (SecurityConfigurationException e) { Debug.logError(e, module); } session.setAttribute(delegatorName, delegator.getDelegatorName()); request.setAttribute(delegator, delegator); //Missing in 12.04 session.setAttribute(delegator, delegator); request.setAttribute(dispatcher, dispatcher); /Missing 12.04 session.setAttribute(dispatcher, dispatcher); request.setAttribute(security, security); //Missing 12.04 session.setAttribute(security, security); request.setAttribute(authz, authz); //Missing 12.04 session.setAttribute(authz, authz); // get rid of the visit info since it was pointing to the previous database, and get a new one session.removeAttribute(visitor); session.removeAttribute(visit); VisitHandler.getVisitor(request, response); VisitHandler.getVisit(session); } Regards Rene - -- Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/ Bonsai ERP, the all-inclusive ERP system http://www.bonsaierp.com.au/ -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Tenant-authentication-problem-in-12-04-tp4637493p4637495.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Tenant authentication problem in 12.04
Hi, Could you please provide a patch in a Jira? https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Contributors+Best+Practices Jacques From: Rene Frauli m...@frauli.de Hello, In 12.04 the LoginWorker method setWebContextObjects object doesn't store the delegator, dispatcher, security and the authz in the session only in the request. The effect is that the session for the tenant is not correct and the tenant cannot be used at all with strange effects. For e.g. data are stored with the default delegator. In comparison with the related method in 11.04 if have added the missing lines see below and now the tenant is working correctly again. private static void setWebContextObjects(HttpServletRequest request, HttpServletResponse response, Delegator delegator, LocalDispatcher dispatcher) { HttpSession session = request.getSession(); // NOTE: we do NOT want to set this in the servletContext, only in the request and session // We also need to setup the security and authz objects since they are dependent on the delegator Security security = null; try { security = SecurityFactory.getInstance(delegator); } catch (SecurityConfigurationException e) { Debug.logError(e, module); } Authorization authz = null; try { authz = AuthorizationFactory.getInstance(delegator); } catch (SecurityConfigurationException e) { Debug.logError(e, module); } session.setAttribute(delegatorName, delegator.getDelegatorName()); request.setAttribute(delegator, delegator); //Missing in 12.04 session.setAttribute(delegator, delegator); request.setAttribute(dispatcher, dispatcher); /Missing 12.04 session.setAttribute(dispatcher, dispatcher); request.setAttribute(security, security); //Missing 12.04 session.setAttribute(security, security); request.setAttribute(authz, authz); //Missing 12.04 session.setAttribute(authz, authz); // get rid of the visit info since it was pointing to the previous database, and get a new one session.removeAttribute(visitor); session.removeAttribute(visit); VisitHandler.getVisitor(request, response); VisitHandler.getVisit(session); } Regards Rene