Re: Ofbiz Newbie Needs Guidance

2013-05-07 Thread Atul Vani
Extending it is a far better option and must work for you, I believe. But  
if for some reason that doesn't happen, you might wanna try moqui instead  
of cleaning all the stuff from OFBiz.


http://www.moqui.org/


On Wed, 08 May 2013 06:54:36 +0530, Paul Foxworthy   
wrote:



Hi Arpit,

If you use just the framework part of OFBiz, you can create pretty much  
any
web application. You can think of the framework as another web  
application
framework, something like Spring, Struts and so on. For example,  
Atlassian's
Jira product is not in any way an ERP system, but uses the OFBiz  
framework.


If you like what you've seen of the OFBiz way, using the framework is a
possibility, and yes, you could reinvent a different ERP system based on  
the

framework.

That said, I find it hard to believe that nothing in OFBiz would be  
relevant

to an ERP application. Surely your application will deal with Parties,
Products, Services, Orders, Invoices, Payments, Inventory and so on. I
suggest you reconsider *extending* OFBiz instead of rewriting it. If you
haven't read The Data Model Resource Book
(https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/ofbiz-related-books.html), I strongly
suggest you do before embarking on defining your entities, and that  
applies
whether or not you do decide to rewrite. OFBiz's data model is based on  
the

book, although there are differences.

Have you looked at the services in OFBiz separately from the screens in  
the

demo application? The demo is just that, a demo and not a finished
application. It tends to expose all the knobs and dials when for a given
application you would be happy to hide away some portion of them. So I  
would
expect that you would vary screens, remove some, and change the workflow  
of

others. But the screens would call on services, and there would be less
changes there.

I understand you would want your own entities, and that is fine. But if  
they
have relationships to standard OFBiz entities like Party, why not store  
them

in the ofbiz database?

As for working with your DBA: model the entities first. OFBiz will
automatically create tables to persist entity data, so there should be  
less

work for your DBA to do. The Data Model Resource Book will give you some
ideas about conventions. There are conventions for types of entities and
additional attributes, see the discussion at
https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBTECH/general-entity-overview.html and look  
for

examples in OFBiz.

Hope that helps.

Regards

Paul Foxworthy


Arpit Gadle wrote

Hello Everyone,

I am a newbie to Ofbiz. I am having 4 yrs of exp in Java Technology and
MySQL database.
Recently I have been assigned a task by the company to develop ERP using
Ofbiz. I had installed and developed a demoapp ofbiz component
successfully
and also configured Ofbiz installation with MySQL. I had gone through  
the

ofbiz core components and found that I cannot  reuse and also cannot
extend
those components as our requirement is very complex and flexible.

I would like to ask you guys few things

1) Can I develop whole new ERP from ground-zero using Ofbiz (as i
created demoapp)?
2) How can Ofbiz will help me as I won't be using any core components?
3) Can I create and use a separate database for the development other  
than

ofbiz,ofbizolap and ofbiztenant?
4) We are having a MySQL DBA with us who will be designing the new ERP
database. Are there any rules or conventions to follow when working with
Ofbiz.


I apologize If I had made some mistakes or

asked some questions not pertaining to this mailing list.

Any help is greatly appreciated

Thanks & Regards,

Arpit Gadle






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Re: Ofbiz Newbie Needs Guidance

2013-05-07 Thread Paul Foxworthy
Hi Arpit,

If you use just the framework part of OFBiz, you can create pretty much any
web application. You can think of the framework as another web application
framework, something like Spring, Struts and so on. For example, Atlassian's
Jira product is not in any way an ERP system, but uses the OFBiz framework.

If you like what you've seen of the OFBiz way, using the framework is a
possibility, and yes, you could reinvent a different ERP system based on the
framework.

That said, I find it hard to believe that nothing in OFBiz would be relevant
to an ERP application. Surely your application will deal with Parties,
Products, Services, Orders, Invoices, Payments, Inventory and so on. I
suggest you reconsider *extending* OFBiz instead of rewriting it. If you
haven't read The Data Model Resource Book
(https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBADMIN/ofbiz-related-books.html), I strongly
suggest you do before embarking on defining your entities, and that applies
whether or not you do decide to rewrite. OFBiz's data model is based on the
book, although there are differences.

Have you looked at the services in OFBiz separately from the screens in the
demo application? The demo is just that, a demo and not a finished
application. It tends to expose all the knobs and dials when for a given
application you would be happy to hide away some portion of them. So I would
expect that you would vary screens, remove some, and change the workflow of
others. But the screens would call on services, and there would be less
changes there.

I understand you would want your own entities, and that is fine. But if they
have relationships to standard OFBiz entities like Party, why not store them
in the ofbiz database?

As for working with your DBA: model the entities first. OFBiz will
automatically create tables to persist entity data, so there should be less
work for your DBA to do. The Data Model Resource Book will give you some
ideas about conventions. There are conventions for types of entities and
additional attributes, see the discussion at
https://cwiki.apache.org/OFBTECH/general-entity-overview.html and look for
examples in OFBiz.

Hope that helps.

Regards

Paul Foxworthy


Arpit Gadle wrote
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I am a newbie to Ofbiz. I am having 4 yrs of exp in Java Technology and
> MySQL database.
> Recently I have been assigned a task by the company to develop ERP using
> Ofbiz. I had installed and developed a demoapp ofbiz component
> successfully
> and also configured Ofbiz installation with MySQL. I had gone through the
> ofbiz core components and found that I cannot  reuse and also cannot
> extend
> those components as our requirement is very complex and flexible.
> 
> I would like to ask you guys few things
> 
> 1) Can I develop whole new ERP from ground-zero using Ofbiz (as i
> created demoapp)?
> 2) How can Ofbiz will help me as I won't be using any core components?
> 3) Can I create and use a separate database for the development other than
> ofbiz,ofbizolap and ofbiztenant?
> 4) We are having a MySQL DBA with us who will be designing the new ERP
> database. Are there any rules or conventions to follow when working with
> Ofbiz.
> 
> 
> I apologize If I had made some mistakes or
> 
> asked some questions not pertaining to this mailing list.
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated
> 
> Thanks & Regards,
> 
> Arpit Gadle





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RE: 12.04 Build Errors

2013-05-07 Thread Skip
Adrian

Thanks for the reply.  This is version 12.04.  I have modified several files
to support some additional stuff.  After some messing around, I discovered
that I needed the libraries in content\lib\uno which has the openoffice
stuff as well as the jasperreports stuff in framework.

I downloaded and installed the jars and everything compiles now.  The only
issue is that I am not sure what version of these libraries are currently
being used.

Can someone elaborate or should I just use the latest.

Thanks in Advance

Skip

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Crum [mailto:adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 3:38 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: 12.04 Build Errors


Skip,

Welcome back! It might help if you could specify the environment -
specifically the OS and JDK manufacturer.

No one has reported the problems you describe, so it might be a version
or configuration problem.

-Adrian

On 5/7/2013 6:23 PM, Skip wrote:
> I have been using ofbiz versions below 9.x for 5+ years.  I am in the
> process of updating to 12.04.
>
> I downloaded the zip file, made a few critical modifications and ran "ant"
>
> I am getting over a hundred errors related to com.sun.star.io
>
> For example:
>
> package com.sun.star.io does not exist
>
> import com.sun.star.io.NotConnectedException
>
> I ran this on both 32 and 64 bit version of jdk1.6 with the same results.
> Did a google search but found nothing useful.
>
> Is there some other ant command I need to build some base libraries or do
I
> need to get this openoffice library somewhere else first?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> I am just trying to do an iterative build as I make these changes before
> actually using any data.
>
> Skip
>




Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread Integrin
Hi Ted,

My 2 cents, I have setup Bigfish 1.10 on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with OpenJdk
7; with Apache 2 in front as a proxy to Tomcat; Works great; Happy to
help, if you bump into any issues; Nick & Team, Keep up the good work
and thanks for the contribution; Looking forward to 1.11; and code
being accesible through svn

- Regards
Sakthi



On 5/7/13, Ted Byers  wrote:
> Thanks Len.  That is just a few days away, so I'll give it a try then.
>  I'd built OFbiz frm trunk on Ubuntu 12.04 using OpenJDK 7.  Can I
> assume your derivative will also compile using OpenJDK7?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ted
>

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Re: 12.04 Build Errors

2013-05-07 Thread Adrian Crum

Skip,

Welcome back! It might help if you could specify the environment - 
specifically the OS and JDK manufacturer.


No one has reported the problems you describe, so it might be a version 
or configuration problem.


-Adrian

On 5/7/2013 6:23 PM, Skip wrote:

I have been using ofbiz versions below 9.x for 5+ years.  I am in the
process of updating to 12.04.

I downloaded the zip file, made a few critical modifications and ran "ant"

I am getting over a hundred errors related to com.sun.star.io

For example:

package com.sun.star.io does not exist

import com.sun.star.io.NotConnectedException

I ran this on both 32 and 64 bit version of jdk1.6 with the same results.
Did a google search but found nothing useful.

Is there some other ant command I need to build some base libraries or do I
need to get this openoffice library somewhere else first?

Any help is appreciated.

I am just trying to do an iterative build as I make these changes before
actually using any data.

Skip





Ofbiz Newbie Needs Guidance

2013-05-07 Thread Arpit Gadle
Hello Everyone,

I am a newbie to Ofbiz. I am having 4 yrs of exp in Java Technology and
MySQL database.
Recently I have been assigned a task by the company to develop ERP using
Ofbiz. I had installed and developed a demoapp ofbiz component successfully
and also configured Ofbiz installation with MySQL. I had gone through the
ofbiz core components and found that I cannot  reuse and also cannot extend
those components as our requirement is very complex and flexible.

I would like to ask you guys few things

1) Can I develop whole new ERP from ground-zero using Ofbiz (as i
created demoapp)?
2) How can Ofbiz will help me as I won't be using any core components?
3) Can I create and use a separate database for the development other than
ofbiz,ofbizolap and ofbiztenant?
4) We are having a MySQL DBA with us who will be designing the new ERP
database. Are there any rules or conventions to follow when working with
Ofbiz.


I apologize If I had made some mistakes or

asked some questions not pertaining to this mailing list.

Any help is greatly appreciated

Thanks & Regards,

Arpit Gadle


Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread Nick Rosser

Ted,

You're welcome. Let me mull over your electronic text / Wordpress query ...

Best Regards,

*Nick Rosser*
nros...@solveda.com
Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
Cell: 1.516.901.1720
www.solveda.com

On 5/7/2013 3:36 PM, Ted Byers wrote:

I should have begun my last response with a big THANK YOU.  Please
forgive my momentary lapse in manners.  I appreciate your reply, and
the time taken to write it.

Thanks

Ted


RE: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread Len Shein
Yes I would assume so, all BigFish code is an 'extension' of the Ofbiz frm
trunk.

Len

-Original Message-
From: Ted Byers [mailto:r.ted.by...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 3:32 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

Thanks Len.  That is just a few days away, so I'll give it a try then.
 I'd built OFbiz frm trunk on Ubuntu 12.04 using OpenJDK 7.  Can I
assume your derivative will also compile using OpenJDK7?

Thanks

Ted



Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread Ted Byers
I should have begun my last response with a big THANK YOU.  Please
forgive my momentary lapse in manners.  I appreciate your reply, and
the time taken to write it.

Thanks

Ted


Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread Ted Byers
Thanks Len.  That is just a few days away, so I'll give it a try then.
 I'd built OFbiz frm trunk on Ubuntu 12.04 using OpenJDK 7.  Can I
assume your derivative will also compile using OpenJDK7?

Thanks

Ted


Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread Ted Byers
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Nick Rosser  wrote:
> Ted,
>
> Lots of questions :-) Thanks for the interest ... I'll try to answer them as
> best I can:
>

> One last
> question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
> what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
> but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
> set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
> (say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
> them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
> OFBiz already has support for digital products, but it isn't clear to
> me how to configure a happy marriage of OFBiz/BigFish to WordPress.
>
> NICK: not entirely sure to be honest, not sure I quite understand. The
> digital content can be nicely accommodated but it would really depend on
> your detailed requirements.
>
>
Well, I have not yet really made sense of the support that OFBiz
provides for digital content, save that my imporession is that it is
suitable for individual, stand-alone digital products (videos, photos,
novels in PDF format, &c.).  However, it seems certain that however
good that support is, adding a digital product to an ecommerce store
selling digital products will not compare to what is possible when
using WordPress.  WordPress, as you may know, is commonly know for
supporting blogging, but what seems less well known is that it is the
software used to support many electronic journals and 'virtual
newspapers'.  It has built in support for different kinds of users,
from mere members (those who only read the content), authors, and
editors (who full the corresponding roles in regular new magazines and
newpapers).  Often, membership is free, but for commercial sites, one
pays for membership, and the sites provide some free content as a kind
of advertizing.  Thus, what I have in mind involves a multisite
WordPress installation that serves all content (both excerpts
presented as ads in an estore, and the paid content).  Thus, the
shopping carte/checkout pages from OFBiz/BiFish would have to be
seemlessly integrated into the WordPress site (not so much in terms of
being embedded on the WordPress pages, but with the same look and
feel, and seemless navigation between the two so that the user does
not realize that the ecommerce pages and the content pages are coming
from two different servers).  Some time later this summer, I expect to
be hiring a PHP programmer to add a sharable, searchable read-only
archive to my Wordpress site in such a way that any author writing for
any Wordpress site I am hosting can dynanically link to sections of
documents in the archive.  This model allows authors or journalists to
include a great deal more detail and analysis in thier articles.  in
any event, I need a viable solution to make it easy for them to both
advertize their content and get paid for it.  I know some approach the
problem by buying or developing an ecommerce plugin written in PHP to
add onto WordPress, but I figure I ought to be able to support this
using the ecommerce capabilities of either OFBiz or BigFish.

What do you think?

Cheers

Ted


RE: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread Len Shein
Ted,
Nick has answered most of your questions I will answer your last question
concerning SVN.

Ted: Finally, I saw, on your page for getting BigFish, instructions that
involve downloading an installation program.  Do you also have it
acessable via subversion, or other version control system?  Instead of
running an installer, I'd prefer to retrieve the codebase and build it
in the same way that I obtain and build OFBiz, if you support that?
(Or should I have read further in that documentation?)

Len:
Since release of BigFish V1.10 we have worked on retrieving the BigFish code
base directly from SVN, this will be readily available in the next version
of BigFish (Version 1.11) scheduled for release on May 10th, 2013.  BigFish
will have 3 options for downloading via: (zip, installer or SVN).  Check
http://bigfish.solveda.com/bfDownload.html for detailed 'How to'
instructions.

Len


-Original Message-
From: Nick Rosser [mailto:nros...@solveda.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:45 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

Ted,

Lots of questions :-) Thanks for the interest ... I'll try to answer 
them as best I can:

Is the advantage of BigFish over OFBiz - trunk primarily, or even
only, with regard to ecommerce?

NICK: BigFish is an extension of OFBiz. We re-use trunk code, the entity
model, and the great service layer. So, for example, we have a concept
called "HEADER_LINKS" -- this is a piece of content that manages the display
of the very top of each eCommerce page (where your would normally have Store
locator, My Account etc.). This is managed in regular OFBiz "content"
entities ... but more easily maintained in the Admin Module (Content ->
Site Info ->  Header Links). So, you can see that by this simple example
that we're reusing a great feature of OFBiz, just putting a much more
manageable interface behind it. This is what BigFish is really all about --
reusing features of OFBiz, having our own Admin Module, and giving control
to the business users to manage their site.

If not, can you point to a document
that describes the differences between the two?  (Some of those I am
interested in serving are not involved in ecommerce, as it is rather
hard to sell a shower or a new roof, over the web, but they need the
inventory, accounting and project management features).

NICK: right now it is very much focused on eCommerce and the customer facing
aspect of eCommerce. We are slowly exposing more of the backend ERP features
into the BigFish Admin Module (for example, we're recently exposed the
order-status-change features in the Order Management module). Key word here
is "exposing", not re-writing or writing ... reusing existing OFBiz
services. Inventory will be exposed throughout this year.


Also, you had mentioned multi-site capability. Have you written up
instructions on how to deploy that?

NICK: this is a todo. You can see the existing Help at
http://bigfish.solveda.com/help/index.htm -- the "HOW DO I" and "GUIDES"
have the most value. We are essentially using the PRODUCT_STORE feature and
linking up Product Catalogs to the Product-Store. All out-of-the-box stuff.
There is a new entity in the data model called X_CONTENT_XREF (we've
prefixed our new entities with "X" to make it clearer) that maps various
content to the Product-Store (not supported out-of-the-box). We are working
on another "extended site" for a client at which point documentation will be
available. It's actually not that difficult.


In connection to this, can a merchant readily
hire a graphics design person to modify the look and feel of the
ecommerce site?  If so, what is involved?  Would they simply make
their own CSS, and drop it in place?


NICK: yes, exactly. If you compare our two demo sites Fashion-House and
Electronic-Store there are basically very few differences: same BigFish
application; different database with different products; different CSS;
different content; different parameters. That's pretty much it. For the CSS
we've spent a lot of time generated markup that lends itself to being
morphed by CSS -- working out really nicely imo.

And also concernig this, what do
you do to support search engine optimization?  After all, even a
pretty website is useless if people don't often find it.


NICK: mainly up to the client to provide good keywords. Some highlights: we
use sensible defaults for page titles and meta tags (all can be overridden
in the Admin Module). We have a sitemap.xml generator. We have friendly
URL's built into the solution.


One last
question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
(say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
OFBiz already 

Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread Nick Rosser

Ted,

Lots of questions :-) Thanks for the interest ... I'll try to answer 
them as best I can:


Is the advantage of BigFish over OFBiz - trunk primarily, or even
only, with regard to ecommerce?

NICK: BigFish is an extension of OFBiz. We re-use trunk code, the entity model, and the great service 
layer. So, for example, we have a concept called "HEADER_LINKS" -- this is a piece of content 
that manages the display of the very top of each eCommerce page (where your would normally have Store 
locator, My Account etc.). This is managed in regular OFBiz "content" entities ... but more 
easily maintained in the Admin Module (Content ->  Site Info ->  Header Links). So, you can see 
that by this simple example that we're reusing a great feature of OFBiz, just putting a much more 
manageable interface behind it. This is what BigFish is really all about -- reusing features of OFBiz, 
having our own Admin Module, and giving control to the business users to manage their site.

If not, can you point to a document
that describes the differences between the two?  (Some of those I am
interested in serving are not involved in ecommerce, as it is rather
hard to sell a shower or a new roof, over the web, but they need the
inventory, accounting and project management features).

NICK: right now it is very much focused on eCommerce and the customer facing aspect of 
eCommerce. We are slowly exposing more of the backend ERP features into the BigFish Admin 
Module (for example, we're recently exposed the order-status-change features in the Order 
Management module). Key word here is "exposing", not re-writing or writing ... 
reusing existing OFBiz services. Inventory will be exposed throughout this year.


Also, you had mentioned multi-site capability. Have you written up
instructions on how to deploy that?

NICK: this is a todo. You can see the existing Help at http://bigfish.solveda.com/help/index.htm -- the "HOW DO 
I" and "GUIDES" have the most value. We are essentially using the PRODUCT_STORE feature and linking up 
Product Catalogs to the Product-Store. All out-of-the-box stuff. There is a new entity in the data model called 
X_CONTENT_XREF (we've prefixed our new entities with "X" to make it clearer) that maps various content to the 
Product-Store (not supported out-of-the-box). We are working on another "extended site" for a client at which 
point documentation will be available. It's actually not that difficult.


In connection to this, can a merchant readily
hire a graphics design person to modify the look and feel of the
ecommerce site?  If so, what is involved?  Would they simply make
their own CSS, and drop it in place?


NICK: yes, exactly. If you compare our two demo sites Fashion-House and 
Electronic-Store there are basically very few differences: same BigFish 
application; different database with different products; different CSS; 
different content; different parameters. That's pretty much it. For the CSS 
we've spent a lot of time generated markup that lends itself to being morphed 
by CSS -- working out really nicely imo.

And also concernig this, what do
you do to support search engine optimization?  After all, even a
pretty website is useless if people don't often find it.


NICK: mainly up to the client to provide good keywords. Some highlights: we use 
sensible defaults for page titles and meta tags (all can be overridden in the 
Admin Module). We have a sitemap.xml generator. We have friendly URL's built 
into the solution.


One last
question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
(say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
OFBiz already has support for digital products, but it isn't clear to
me how to configure a happy marriage of OFBiz/BigFish to WordPress.

NICK: not entirely sure to be honest, not sure I quite understand. The digital 
content can be nicely accommodated but it would really depend on your detailed 
requirements.


Finally, I saw, on your page for getting BigFish, instructions that
involve downloading an installation program.  Do you also have it
acessable via subversion, or other version control system?  Instead of
running an installer, I'd prefer to retrieve the codebase and build it
in the same way that I obtain and build OFBiz, if you support that?
(Or should I have read further in that documentation?)


NICK: I know we've talked about having a public read-only SVN available on the 
site. I'll follow-up with the techs. Shouldn't be a problem.

Nick

On 5/7/2013 2:21 PM, Ted Byers wrote:


Hi Nick,

Impressive!

Is the advantage of BigFish over OFBiz - trunk primarily, or even
only, with regard to ecommerce?  If not, can you point to a document
that describes the diff

Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread Ted Byers
Hi Nick,

Impressive!

Is the advantage of BigFish over OFBiz - trunk primarily, or even
only, with regard to ecommerce?  If not, can you point to a document
that describes the differences between the two?  (Some of those I am
interested in serving are not involved in ecommerce, as it is rather
hard to sell a shower or a new roof, over the web, but they need the
inventory, accounting and project management features).

Also, you had mentioned multi-site capability. Have you written up
instructions on how to deploy that?  I would assume, from what you
wrote, that it would be feasible to add more sites at any time after
the initial deployment.  I would assume, further, that each site is
connected to a single party, though a given party could have multiple
sites, and that info from two sites in a single deployment will not
bleed into each other.  In connection to this, can a merchant readily
hire a graphics design person to modify the look and feel of the
ecommerce site?  If so, what is involved?  Would they simply make
their own CSS, and drop it in place?  That is what I did for my own
websites (developed in Perl): If one website operator wants a
different look and feel (even a very drastic change from my defaults),
they need only modify a CSS and drop it in place; and thus I'd assume
you did/support something similar.  And also concernig this, what do
you do to support search engine optimization?  After all, even a
pretty website is useless if people don't often find it.  One last
question I would ask about multisite BigFish is in fact related to
what I need to do to set up a multisite WordPress site (not obvious,
but not rocket science either), involves what I would need to do to
set up an ecommerce site that presents excerpts of digital products
(say essays available to subscribers to a WordPress site), and uses
them as ads for selling subscriptions to a wordpress site.  I know
OFBiz already has support for digital products, but it isn't clear to
me how to configure a happy marriage of OFBiz/BigFish to WordPress.

Finally, I saw, on your page for getting BigFish, instructions that
involve downloading an installation program.  Do you also have it
acessable via subversion, or other version control system?  Instead of
running an installer, I'd prefer to retrieve the codebase and build it
in the same way that I obtain and build OFBiz, if you support that?
(Or should I have read further in that documentation?)

Thanks

Ted

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Nick Rosser  wrote:
> David,
>
> In a nutshell it's an extension of OFBiz -- a fully functional eCommerce
> solution.
>
> Check out more details at http://bigfish.solveda.com
>
> In particular, look at the demo instances.
>
> Fashion House eCommerce:
> http://bigfish.solveda.com:8082/online/shop/main
> Fashion House Admin Module:
> https://bigfish.solveda.com:8442/osafe-admin/control/main
> (login is admin/ofbiz)
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> *Nick Rosser*
> nros...@solveda.com
> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
> www.solveda.com
>
> On 5/7/2013 1:06 PM, David Saenz wrote:
>>
>> What is bigfish?
>>
>> On 5/7/2013 10:13 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:
>>>
>>>   All,
>>>
>>> (reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)
>>>
>>> I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now
>>> live.
>>>
>>> Check out www.1800athlete.com
>>>
>>> This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more interesting:
>>>
>>>   * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
>>> www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
>>>   * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
>>> with the "1800athlete" site
>>>   * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
>>> BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
>>>   o single database to support both sites
>>>   o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
>>>   o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
>>> separate product catalog
>>>   o no additional programming was required to build
>>> www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
>>> configuration and it's a go!
>>>
>>> It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly
>>> any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have very
>>> good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.
>>>
>>> For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com.
>>> More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements
>>> and more success stories. Enjoy!
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> *Nick Rosser*
>>> nros...@solveda.com
>>> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
>>> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
>>> www.solveda.com
>>>
>



-- 
R.E.(Ted) Byers, Ph.D.,Ed.D.
t...@merchantservicecorp.com
CTO
Merchant Services Corp.
17665 Leslie st., unit 30
Newmarket , Ontario
L3Y 3E3


12.04 cannot build

2013-05-07 Thread Skip
After some looking I see a directory called lib/uno which has a readme file
which points me to an OPTIONAL_LIBRARIES file which gives a list of
libraries with a reference to "old Undersun SVN server" to get them.

Can anyone tell me where to get these libraries?

Skip



Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread Nick Rosser

David,

In a nutshell it's an extension of OFBiz -- a fully functional eCommerce 
solution.


Check out more details at http://bigfish.solveda.com

In particular, look at the demo instances.

Fashion House eCommerce: 
http://bigfish.solveda.com:8082/online/shop/main
Fashion House Admin Module:  
https://bigfish.solveda.com:8442/osafe-admin/control/main

(login is admin/ofbiz)

Best Regards,

*Nick Rosser*
nros...@solveda.com
Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
Cell: 1.516.901.1720
www.solveda.com

On 5/7/2013 1:06 PM, David Saenz wrote:

What is bigfish?

On 5/7/2013 10:13 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:

  All,

(reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)

I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now live.

Check out www.1800athlete.com

This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more interesting:

  * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
  * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
with the "1800athlete" site
  * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
  o single database to support both sites
  o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
  o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
separate product catalog
  o no additional programming was required to build
www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
configuration and it's a go!

It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly
any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have very
good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.

For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com.
More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements
and more success stories. Enjoy!

Best Regards,

*Nick Rosser*
nros...@solveda.com
Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
Cell: 1.516.901.1720
www.solveda.com



12.04 Build Errors

2013-05-07 Thread Skip
I have been using ofbiz versions below 9.x for 5+ years.  I am in the
process of updating to 12.04.

I downloaded the zip file, made a few critical modifications and ran "ant"

I am getting over a hundred errors related to com.sun.star.io

For example:

package com.sun.star.io does not exist

import com.sun.star.io.NotConnectedException

I ran this on both 32 and 64 bit version of jdk1.6 with the same results.
Did a google search but found nothing useful.

Is there some other ant command I need to build some base libraries or do I
need to get this openoffice library somewhere else first?

Any help is appreciated.

I am just trying to do an iterative build as I make these changes before
actually using any data.

Skip



Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread emeka okafor
How long does it take to build such a website? Could you give a comparison 
between bigfish and something like yahoo merchant or spotify with respect to 
time to market and price? I have been falling in and out of love with ofbiz 
because it seems that I cannot get real productive while I am trying to 
understand how the whole  framework is built.




 From: Nick Rosser 
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 6:13 PM
Subject: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com
 

All,

(reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)

I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now live.

Check out www.1800athlete.com

This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more interesting:

* a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
  www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
* After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
   with the "1800athlete" site
* The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
   BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
     o single database to support both sites
     o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
     o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
       separate product catalog
     o no additional programming was required to build
       www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
       configuration and it's a go!

It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly any 
support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have very good 
knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.

For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com. More 
updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements and more 
success stories. Enjoy!

Best Regards,

*Nick Rosser*
nros...@solveda.com
Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
Cell: 1.516.901.1720
www.solveda.com

Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread David Saenz
What is bigfish?

On 5/7/2013 10:13 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:
>  All,
> 
> (reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)
> 
> I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now live.
> 
> Check out www.1800athlete.com
> 
> This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more interesting:
> 
>  * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
>www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
>  * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
>with the "1800athlete" site
>  * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
>BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
>  o single database to support both sites
>  o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
>  o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
>separate product catalog
>  o no additional programming was required to build
>www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
>configuration and it's a go!
> 
> It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly
> any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have very
> good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.
> 
> For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com.
> More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements
> and more success stories. Enjoy!
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> *Nick Rosser*
> nros...@solveda.com
> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
> www.solveda.com
> 


Re: OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread David Saenz
Congratulations!  Awesome!

On 5/7/2013 10:13 AM, Nick Rosser wrote:
>  All,
> 
> (reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)
> 
> I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now live.
> 
> Check out www.1800athlete.com
> 
> This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more interesting:
> 
>  * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
>www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
>  * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
>with the "1800athlete" site
>  * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
>BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
>  o single database to support both sites
>  o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
>  o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
>separate product catalog
>  o no additional programming was required to build
>www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
>configuration and it's a go!
> 
> It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly
> any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have very
> good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.
> 
> For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com.
> More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements
> and more success stories. Enjoy!
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> *Nick Rosser*
> nros...@solveda.com
> Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
> Cell: 1.516.901.1720
> www.solveda.com
> 


OFBiz / BigFish site goes live -- www.1800athlete.com

2013-05-07 Thread Nick Rosser

 All,

(reposting as I needed to subscribe using our new domain)

I'm pleased to announce that the latest BigFish implementation is now live.

Check out www.1800athlete.com

This is a great looking site and the creation of it is more interesting:

 * a long time client of ours originally engaged with us to build
   www.1800fishoil.com using the BigFish platform
 * After the successful launch of this site they wanted to follow up
   with the "1800athlete" site
 * The new www.1800athlete.com site is built within their existing
   BigFish architecture using the "multi site" capability
 o single database to support both sites
 o two instances of BigFish deployed, one for each site
 o each with separate configurations, style sheets (CSS) and
   separate product catalog
 o no additional programming was required to build
   www.1800athlete.com -- some visual design, product setup,
   configuration and it's a go!

It's actually pretty impressive that they pulled it off ... with hardly 
any support from us. And they are not a big tech company, just have very 
good knowledge of the OFBiz entity model.


For more information about BigFish check out http://bigfish.solveda.com. 
More updates coming soon to the site, with some very nice enhancements 
and more success stories. Enjoy!


Best Regards,

*Nick Rosser*
nros...@solveda.com
Tel: 1.516.742.7888 x221
Cell: 1.516.901.1720
www.solveda.com


Re: Learning Management System

2013-05-07 Thread Sumit Pandit
Hi Deepak, 
It could be achieved in several ways, consider following model where - 

Course = PRODUCT (productTypeId=MARKETING_PKG or MARKETING_PKG_PICK); for 
example (productIds = GZ-BASKET/GZ-BASKET-PICK) Where BASKET is packaged 
product. 

Classes(represented by Product) will associate with course 
(productAssocTypeId="PRODUCT_COMPONENT") : Since a class could associate with 
multiple courses. 

Student buy a Package which come with set of classes as associated. 

With extension of requirement, Course/Classes can further associate with 
WorkEffort (with any of suitable type: Training/Program/Event etc.. ), where it 
would present in Course/Class calender , and student could registered to attend 
the class at given calender schedule. 

-- 
Thanks And Regards 
Sumit Pandit 
Tata Consultancy Services 
Cell:- 917503046188 
 


- Original Message -


From: "Deepak Agarwal"  
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:51:33 AM 
Subject: Learning Management System 

I want to build a learning management system on top of ofbiz. It envolves 
setting up courses, classes, reports, slides, automations etc... 

Has anyone build something like that. 

Knowning the data model of ofbiz I have few thoughts : 

1) Consider courses as products 
2) Student buy course which triggers : An order creation, Subscription and 
workeffort for the classes 
3) Study material can also be added as product to which students can 
subscribe. 

How do I setup the classes. Each course will have set of classes to be 
taken and there should be an automation. How do I attach the classes to 
courses. What should be the logical entity in the current ofbiz setup for 
this. Can classes be considered as tasks ? 

-- 
Thanks, 
Deepak Agarwal, 

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Re: Learning Management System

2013-05-07 Thread Rishi Solanki
Hi Deepak,

All the setup you describe looks good to me and should be doable as per
your needs. Some quick notes on it;

- Yes you can consider the classes as tasks, as you are considering courses
as product. So for delivering a product say course you may need to conduct
several classes. For the same you can use WorkEffortGoodStandard or similar
setup and multiple classes will be child of the work effort link to product.
- Courses could be consider as service products, it is just a thought. Some
other in community could give better thought on this.

I would say what you are thinking is in line with OFBiz practices, should
go in that direction or if required then customized data model design
should follow the product data model.



Rishi Solanki
Manager, Enterprise Software Development
HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd.
Direct: +91-9893287847
http://www.hotwaxmedia.com


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Deepak Agarwal wrote:

> I want to build a learning management system on top of ofbiz. It envolves
> setting up courses, classes, reports, slides, automations etc...
>
> Has anyone build something like that.
>
> Knowning the data model of ofbiz I have few thoughts :
>
> 1) Consider courses as products
> 2) Student buy course which triggers : An order creation, Subscription and
> workeffort for the classes
> 3) Study material can also be added as product to which students can
> subscribe.
>
> How do I setup the classes. Each course will have set of classes to be
> taken and there should be an automation. How do I attach the classes to
> courses. What should be the logical entity in the current ofbiz setup for
> this. Can classes be considered as tasks ?
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Deepak Agarwal,
>
> Mobile: +91 9501190044
>