Re: quick docker image startup?

[Hans Bakker]

Taher, thanks for your help, in the future i probably will write an 
article how to use gradle ofbiz with docker in production.


--

Regards,

Hans Bakker
CEO, http://antwebsystems.com

On 22/02/18 13:20, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:

If you want my opinion, just download the cache and save it to your image.
Who cares about size, this is an end product image, nothing to be used in a
chain.

So just have a gradlew command to build and load inside your Dockerfile.
Remember the cache is simply replacement to the old jars that existed with
the code base. This is now how most modern software works and it is
becoming less and less common for projects to carry dependencies in the
code base.

Now regarding your comment about username and server, there are many tweaks
you can make to gradle. Check the command line documentation [1]. For
example you can relocate the cache location using the --gradle-user-home
flag. Also generally in docker things are very much dependent on userne,
that's a docker thing, not a gradle thing.

HTH

[1] https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/command_line_interface.html

On Feb 22, 2018 6:23 AM, "Hans Bakker"  wrote:

Hi Taher, thanks for your support.

My problem was caused by the unavailability of the gradle cache by using
the java -jar command. This means that his cache is part of the system
execution and is not just used to build the system. I also found it cannot
be created offline, it looks like it is dependent on the username and
server?

I have the docker image working now according your recommendations:

Within the docker container I run the ofbiz system as user root and persist
the directory /root/.gradle

This means however that the first startup of the container requires the
full download of all dependencies.

Conclusion:
1. it is not possible to create an ofbiz production system locally and
install it in a production environment. It needs to be build in place of
production.

2. The gradle cache is part of the system code, the system will not run
without it.

It would be much better if we could build the system offline, create the
docker container which should run without rebuilding and the gradle cache.
This is what a docker container is used for?




--

Regards,

Hans Bakker
CEO, http://antwebsystems.com

Re: quick docker image startup?

[Taher Alkhateeb]

If you want my opinion, just download the cache and save it to your image.
Who cares about size, this is an end product image, nothing to be used in a
chain.

So just have a gradlew command to build and load inside your Dockerfile.
Remember the cache is simply replacement to the old jars that existed with
the code base. This is now how most modern software works and it is
becoming less and less common for projects to carry dependencies in the
code base.

Now regarding your comment about username and server, there are many tweaks
you can make to gradle. Check the command line documentation [1]. For
example you can relocate the cache location using the --gradle-user-home
flag. Also generally in docker things are very much dependent on userne,
that's a docker thing, not a gradle thing.

HTH

[1] https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/command_line_interface.html

On Feb 22, 2018 6:23 AM, "Hans Bakker"  wrote:

Hi Taher, thanks for your support.

My problem was caused by the unavailability of the gradle cache by using
the java -jar command. This means that his cache is part of the system
execution and is not just used to build the system. I also found it cannot
be created offline, it looks like it is dependent on the username and
server?

I have the docker image working now according your recommendations:

Within the docker container I run the ofbiz system as user root and persist
the directory /root/.gradle

This means however that the first startup of the container requires the
full download of all dependencies.

Conclusion:
1. it is not possible to create an ofbiz production system locally and
install it in a production environment. It needs to be build in place of
production.

2. The gradle cache is part of the system code, the system will not run
without it.

It would be much better if we could build the system offline, create the
docker container which should run without rebuilding and the gradle cache.
This is what a docker container is used for?


-- 

Regards,

Hans Bakker
CEO, http://antwebsystems.com


On 21/02/18 20:34, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:

> Oh .. that would be hard to debug without further analysis. Essentially
> Java is not seeing libraries in the classpath. The classpath is defined
> _inside_ the jar file with pointers to where the gradle cache is located.
>
> So it could be many things, maybe you did not make a first run with gradle
> to download the cache, or maybe you have different users inside the
> container each with their own cache directory. Another possibility is that
> you mounted a volume on top of the downloaded cache.
>
> On Feb 21, 2018 4:22 PM, "Hans Bakker"  wrote:
>
> Thanks Taher, for the extended reply.
>
> currently I have tried the most simple one:
> java -jar build/libs/ofbiz.jar
>
> this works outside the docker image, however within the running container
> it gives the error:
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> org/apache/commons/cli/ParseException
>  at org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:60)
> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
> org.apache.commons.cli.ParseEx
> ception
>  at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:381)
>  at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424)
>  at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:331)
>  at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357)
>  ... 1 more
>
> perhaps you have a suggestion for me?
>
> thanks again for your help.
> Regards,
> Hans
>
>
> On 21/02/18 17:56, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:
>
> Oh I just remembered something else you might want to do. You can create a
>> volume for the cache, this way you wait for the download only the first
>> time you instantiate the image and subsequent container instantiations
>> would not need to download anything
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2018 9:55 AM, "Taher Alkhateeb" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The image has to get larger, there is no way around that. Either you
>> repopulate the cache or save a bigger image. OFBiz will not work without
>> its libraries just like in the ant days.
>>
>> For me I have a big OFBiz image because I don't care about size as much as
>> I do about startup time.
>>
>> Now your question was how to start without a rebuild. You can either:
>>
>> 1- in build.gradle go to the method createOfbizCommandTask and remove
>> "dependsOn build"
>> OR
>> 2- run java -jar build/libs/ofbiz.jar
>>
>> On Feb 21, 2018 8:03 AM, "Hans Bakker" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Good day!
>>
>> i am trying to create a docker image of the new ofbiz using gradle.
>>
>> And obviously i want a quick startup time.
>>
>> So i run all the gradle build tasks offline, copy the result in a docker
>> image and install it in a docker environment.
>>
>> Then as normal run ./gradlew ofbiz  as the startup command.
>>
>> Then because the gradle cache is not there gradle rebuids. Copying the
>> gradle cache into the docker image is no option, because it gets
>> substantial bigger.
>>
>> How to sta

Re: [SKYPE CALL] Initial Call to Kickstart Documentation Team

[Badar Ali]

Dear Sharan,

Thanks for confirmation email. I'll be available at 18:00.


Regards,

Badar Ali



From: Sharan Foga 
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 1:07 PM
To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
Subject: Re: [SKYPE CALL] Initial Call to Kickstart Documentation Team

Hi Badar

Yes I will confirm the meeting time in another email, but looking at 14.00 
(UTC+1) I see that Pakistan Standard Time is UTC+5 so it will be  is 18.00 not 
16.00.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2018/02/20 10:22:32, Badar Ali  wrote:
> Dear Sharan,
>
> I love to work with you guys. I am ready for skype call. Let me recall the 
> time and date. Are you going to have a meeting with me on Tuesday 27th 
> February at 14.00 (UTC+1) which is 4.00 pm according to Pakistan time?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Badar Ali
>
>
> 
> From: Sharan Foga 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:59 PM
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [SKYPE CALL] Initial Call to Kickstart Documentation Team
>
> Hi Badar
>
> Welcome and thanks for wanting to help out with our documentation effort. 
> I've added you to our team list on our wiki.
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Documentation+Team
>
> We are planning a skype call next week and are just deciding on a date and 
> time and so far my proposal for Tuesday 27th February at 14.00 (UTC+1) seems 
> to be acceptable, so if you are interested, you are also welcome to join the 
> call.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
> On 2018/02/20 09:18:23, Badar Ali  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Apachian,
> >
> > I am newbie regarding Documentation work. I want to be part of this amazing 
> > team and want to learn from you. Kindly Tell me how can I be part of this 
> > team?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Badar Ali
> >
> > 
> > From: Olivier Heintz 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 PM
> > To: OFBiz User
> > Subject: Re: [SKYPE CALL] Initial Call to Kickstart Documentation Team
> >
> > me too.
> >
> > Le 19/02/2018 à 17:39, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> > > I am fine with this time or anytime decided by the community, I have a
> > > flexible schedule.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:55 AM, Sharan Foga  wrote:
> > >> Hi All
> > >>
> > >> I've taken a look at the meeting times based on the timezones currently 
> > >> listed in documentation team table. We have a wide range of locations 
> > >> (UTC -5 to UTC+5.5) so it's not going to be perfect timing for everyone. 
> > >> Looking at the possible combinations, I've come up with a two options 
> > >> for a call time.
> > >>
> > >> Call Time Option 1
> > >> ===
> > >>   UTC-5 (New York, Boston): 08.00
> > >>   UTC+1 (Czech Republic, Germany, France) : 14.00
> > >>   UTC+2 (South Africa): 15.00
> > >>   UTC+3 (Kuwait) : 16.00
> > >>   UTC+5.5 (India) : 18.30
> > >>
> > >> Call Time Option  2
> > >> 
> > >>   UTC-5 (New York, Boston): 09.00
> > >>   UTC+1 (Czech Republic, Germany, France) : 15.00
> > >>   UTC+2 (South Africa): 16.00
> > >>   UTC+3 (Kuwait) : 17.00
> > >>   UTC+5.5 (India) : 19.30
> > >>
> > >> My schedule is pretty full this week with not much availability so would 
> > >> prefer to move the call out to next week. I think it will also give us a 
> > >> bit more time for preparation. So looking at next week, the 3 dates I 
> > >> would suggest are:
> > >>
> > >> - Tuesday 27th February 2018
> > >> - Wednesday 28th February 2018
> > >> - Thursday 1st March 2018
> > >>
> > >> My preferred date and time would be :
> > >>
> > >> - Tuesday 27th February at 14.00 (UTC+1)
> > >>
> > >> Please let me know if this would work for you all and if not then please 
> > >> suggest your potential alternative.
> > >>
> > >> As usual, all feedback and comments welcome! :-)
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> Sharan
> > >>
> > >> On 2018/02/14 08:22:03, Sharan Foga  wrote:
> > >>> Hi Everyone
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd like to organise a call with all the volunteers interested in being 
> > >>> part of our OFBiz documentation team.
> > >>>
> > >>> We need to discuss how we can plan and organise ourselves to  get this 
> > >>> work started. It will also give people some background information 
> > >>> about what can be done.
> > >>>
> > >>> Taher, who has worked on implementing the documentation framework into 
> > >>> the OFBiz code, would also like to talk to the team and explain some of 
> > >>> the technical details that could affect how we plan and manage the work.
> > >>>
> > >>> So I'd like to invite all of our documentation team volunteers (and 
> > >>> also anyone else from the community who is interested) to a Skype call.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you would like to attend then please add your location and timezone 
> > >>> to the table so that I can find a suitable time for everyone. (See link 
> > >>> below)
> > >>>
> > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Documentation+Team
> > >>>
> > >>> Even if you are not currently on the list of documentation volunteers 
> > >>

Re: Difference between OFBiz 16.11 and 15.12

[deepak nigam]

Thanks a lot for this information.


Thanks & Regards
--
Deepak Nigam

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Deepak Dixit <
deepak.di...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:

> Hi Deepak N,
>
> ofbiz 15.12 is not released,
> ofbiz 16.11.04 is recent official stable release and recommended for use
>
> http://ofbiz.apache.org/business-users.html
>
> Thanks & Regards
> --
> Deepak Dixit
> www.hotwaxsystems.com
> www.hotwax.co
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:50 AM, deepak nigam 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > What is the major difference between OFBiz releases 16.11 and 15.12?
> Which
> > version is best suited for a new custom development?
> >
> >
> > Thanks & Regards
> > --
> > Deepak Nigam
> >
>

Re: Difference between OFBiz 16.11 and 15.12

[Deepak Dixit]

Hi Deepak N,

ofbiz 15.12 is not released,
ofbiz 16.11.04 is recent official stable release and recommended for use

http://ofbiz.apache.org/business-users.html

Thanks & Regards
--
Deepak Dixit
www.hotwaxsystems.com
www.hotwax.co

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:50 AM, deepak nigam 
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> What is the major difference between OFBiz releases 16.11 and 15.12? Which
> version is best suited for a new custom development?
>
>
> Thanks & Regards
> --
> Deepak Nigam
>

Difference between OFBiz 16.11 and 15.12

[deepak nigam]

Hello All,

What is the major difference between OFBiz releases 16.11 and 15.12? Which
version is best suited for a new custom development?


Thanks & Regards
--
Deepak Nigam

Re: quick docker image startup?

[Hans Bakker]

Hi Taher, thanks for your support.

My problem was caused by the unavailability of the gradle cache by using 
the java -jar command. This means that his cache is part of the system 
execution and is not just used to build the system. I also found it 
cannot be created offline, it looks like it is dependent on the username 
and server?


I have the docker image working now according your recommendations:

Within the docker container I run the ofbiz system as user root and 
persist the directory /root/.gradle


This means however that the first startup of the container requires the 
full download of all dependencies.


Conclusion:
1. it is not possible to create an ofbiz production system locally and 
install it in a production environment. It needs to be build in place of 
production.


2. The gradle cache is part of the system code, the system will not run 
without it.


It would be much better if we could build the system offline, create the 
docker container which should run without rebuilding and the gradle 
cache. This is what a docker container is used for?


--

Regards,

Hans Bakker
CEO, http://antwebsystems.com


On 21/02/18 20:34, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:

Oh .. that would be hard to debug without further analysis. Essentially
Java is not seeing libraries in the classpath. The classpath is defined
_inside_ the jar file with pointers to where the gradle cache is located.

So it could be many things, maybe you did not make a first run with gradle
to download the cache, or maybe you have different users inside the
container each with their own cache directory. Another possibility is that
you mounted a volume on top of the downloaded cache.

On Feb 21, 2018 4:22 PM, "Hans Bakker"  wrote:

Thanks Taher, for the extended reply.

currently I have tried the most simple one:
java -jar build/libs/ofbiz.jar

this works outside the docker image, however within the running container
it gives the error:
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
org/apache/commons/cli/ParseException
 at org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:60)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.commons.cli.ParseEx
ception
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:381)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424)
 at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:331)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357)
 ... 1 more

perhaps you have a suggestion for me?

thanks again for your help.
Regards,
Hans


On 21/02/18 17:56, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:


Oh I just remembered something else you might want to do. You can create a
volume for the cache, this way you wait for the download only the first
time you instantiate the image and subsequent container instantiations
would not need to download anything

On Feb 21, 2018 9:55 AM, "Taher Alkhateeb" 
wrote:

The image has to get larger, there is no way around that. Either you
repopulate the cache or save a bigger image. OFBiz will not work without
its libraries just like in the ant days.

For me I have a big OFBiz image because I don't care about size as much as
I do about startup time.

Now your question was how to start without a rebuild. You can either:

1- in build.gradle go to the method createOfbizCommandTask and remove
"dependsOn build"
OR
2- run java -jar build/libs/ofbiz.jar

On Feb 21, 2018 8:03 AM, "Hans Bakker"  wrote:

Good day!

i am trying to create a docker image of the new ofbiz using gradle.

And obviously i want a quick startup time.

So i run all the gradle build tasks offline, copy the result in a docker
image and install it in a docker environment.

Then as normal run ./gradlew ofbiz  as the startup command.

Then because the gradle cache is not there gradle rebuids. Copying the
gradle cache into the docker image is no option, because it gets
substantial bigger.

How to start the system assuming the build was successful and no rebuild is
required?

Re: [SKYPE CALL] Confirmation of Date and Time for Documentation Call

[Arthur Marquez]

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On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Wai  wrote:

> What is the skype address to use?
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/OFBiz-User-f135036.html
>

Re: [SKYPE CALL] Confirmation of Date and Time for Documentation Call

[Wai]

What is the skype address to use?



--
Sent from: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/OFBiz-User-f135036.html

FINAL REMINDER: CFP for Apache EU Roadshow Closes 25th February

[Sharan F]

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Re: quick docker image startup?

[Taher Alkhateeb]

Oh .. that would be hard to debug without further analysis. Essentially
Java is not seeing libraries in the classpath. The classpath is defined
_inside_ the jar file with pointers to where the gradle cache is located.

So it could be many things, maybe you did not make a first run with gradle
to download the cache, or maybe you have different users inside the
container each with their own cache directory. Another possibility is that
you mounted a volume on top of the downloaded cache.

On Feb 21, 2018 4:22 PM, "Hans Bakker"  wrote:

Thanks Taher, for the extended reply.

currently I have tried the most simple one:
java -jar build/libs/ofbiz.jar

this works outside the docker image, however within the running container
it gives the error:
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
org/apache/commons/cli/ParseException
at org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:60)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.commons.cli.ParseEx
ception
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:381)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:331)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357)
... 1 more

perhaps you have a suggestion for me?

thanks again for your help.
Regards,
Hans


On 21/02/18 17:56, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:

> Oh I just remembered something else you might want to do. You can create a
> volume for the cache, this way you wait for the download only the first
> time you instantiate the image and subsequent container instantiations
> would not need to download anything
>
> On Feb 21, 2018 9:55 AM, "Taher Alkhateeb" 
> wrote:
>
> The image has to get larger, there is no way around that. Either you
> repopulate the cache or save a bigger image. OFBiz will not work without
> its libraries just like in the ant days.
>
> For me I have a big OFBiz image because I don't care about size as much as
> I do about startup time.
>
> Now your question was how to start without a rebuild. You can either:
>
> 1- in build.gradle go to the method createOfbizCommandTask and remove
> "dependsOn build"
> OR
> 2- run java -jar build/libs/ofbiz.jar
>
> On Feb 21, 2018 8:03 AM, "Hans Bakker"  wrote:
>
> Good day!
>
> i am trying to create a docker image of the new ofbiz using gradle.
>
> And obviously i want a quick startup time.
>
> So i run all the gradle build tasks offline, copy the result in a docker
> image and install it in a docker environment.
>
> Then as normal run ./gradlew ofbiz  as the startup command.
>
> Then because the gradle cache is not there gradle rebuids. Copying the
> gradle cache into the docker image is no option, because it gets
> substantial bigger.
>
> How to start the system assuming the build was successful and no rebuild is
> required?
>
>
-- 

Regards,

Hans Bakker
CEO, http://antwebsystems.com

Re: quick docker image startup?

[Hans Bakker]

Thanks Taher, for the extended reply.

currently I have tried the most simple one:
java -jar build/libs/ofbiz.jar

this works outside the docker image, however within the running 
container it gives the error:
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
org/apache/commons/cli/ParseException

at org.apache.ofbiz.base.start.Start.main(Start.java:60)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: 
org.apache.commons.cli.ParseException

at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:381)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:424)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:331)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:357)
... 1 more

perhaps you have a suggestion for me?

thanks again for your help.
Regards,
Hans

On 21/02/18 17:56, Taher Alkhateeb wrote:

Oh I just remembered something else you might want to do. You can create a
volume for the cache, this way you wait for the download only the first
time you instantiate the image and subsequent container instantiations
would not need to download anything

On Feb 21, 2018 9:55 AM, "Taher Alkhateeb" 
wrote:

The image has to get larger, there is no way around that. Either you
repopulate the cache or save a bigger image. OFBiz will not work without
its libraries just like in the ant days.

For me I have a big OFBiz image because I don't care about size as much as
I do about startup time.

Now your question was how to start without a rebuild. You can either:

1- in build.gradle go to the method createOfbizCommandTask and remove
"dependsOn build"
OR
2- run java -jar build/libs/ofbiz.jar

On Feb 21, 2018 8:03 AM, "Hans Bakker"  wrote:

Good day!

i am trying to create a docker image of the new ofbiz using gradle.

And obviously i want a quick startup time.

So i run all the gradle build tasks offline, copy the result in a docker
image and install it in a docker environment.

Then as normal run ./gradlew ofbiz  as the startup command.

Then because the gradle cache is not there gradle rebuids. Copying the
gradle cache into the docker image is no option, because it gets
substantial bigger.

How to start the system assuming the build was successful and no rebuild is
required?



--

Regards,

Hans Bakker
CEO, http://antwebsystems.com

Re: quick docker image startup?

[Taher Alkhateeb]

Oh I just remembered something else you might want to do. You can create a
volume for the cache, this way you wait for the download only the first
time you instantiate the image and subsequent container instantiations
would not need to download anything

On Feb 21, 2018 9:55 AM, "Taher Alkhateeb" 
wrote:

The image has to get larger, there is no way around that. Either you
repopulate the cache or save a bigger image. OFBiz will not work without
its libraries just like in the ant days.

For me I have a big OFBiz image because I don't care about size as much as
I do about startup time.

Now your question was how to start without a rebuild. You can either:

1- in build.gradle go to the method createOfbizCommandTask and remove
"dependsOn build"
OR
2- run java -jar build/libs/ofbiz.jar

On Feb 21, 2018 8:03 AM, "Hans Bakker"  wrote:

Good day!

i am trying to create a docker image of the new ofbiz using gradle.

And obviously i want a quick startup time.

So i run all the gradle build tasks offline, copy the result in a docker
image and install it in a docker environment.

Then as normal run ./gradlew ofbiz  as the startup command.

Then because the gradle cache is not there gradle rebuids. Copying the
gradle cache into the docker image is no option, because it gets
substantial bigger.

How to start the system assuming the build was successful and no rebuild is
required?

-- 

Regards,

Hans Bakker
CEO, http://antwebsystems.com

[SKYPE CALL] Confirmation of Date and Time for Documentation Call

[Sharan Foga]

Hi All

Thanks for all the feedback received about the documentation effort. It is 
great to see so many people wanting to be involved as part of the team. Based 
on the feedback I've seen so far I would like to confirm the date and time of 
the Skype call next week to kick start the documentation effort.

The call will be on Tuesday 27th February at 14.00 (UTC+1) 

See below for what this time is for other UTC times

   UTC-5 (New York, Boston): 08.00
   UTC+1 (Czech Republic, Germany, France, Italy) : 14.00
   UTC+2 (South Africa): 15.00
   UTC+3 (Kuwait) : 16.00
  UTC+5 (Pakistan) : 18.00  
  UTC+5.5 (India) : 18.30

Please remember that anyone and everyone can join the team at any time and you 
don't need to be an expert in OFBiz to contribute to it. In fact I think that 
people new to OFBiz have a unique perspective and can let us know if what has 
been written is easy to understand!

If you can't make the call, then don't worry as we will be writing up the notes 
about what was discussed and post the details to the mailing list. 

Thanks
Sharan

Re: [SKYPE CALL] Initial Call to Kickstart Documentation Team

[Sharan Foga]

Hi Badar

Yes I will confirm the meeting time in another email, but looking at 14.00 
(UTC+1) I see that Pakistan Standard Time is UTC+5 so it will be  is 18.00 not 
16.00.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2018/02/20 10:22:32, Badar Ali  wrote: 
> Dear Sharan,
> 
> I love to work with you guys. I am ready for skype call. Let me recall the 
> time and date. Are you going to have a meeting with me on Tuesday 27th 
> February at 14.00 (UTC+1) which is 4.00 pm according to Pakistan time?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Badar Ali
> 
> 
> 
> From: Sharan Foga 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:59 PM
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [SKYPE CALL] Initial Call to Kickstart Documentation Team
> 
> Hi Badar
> 
> Welcome and thanks for wanting to help out with our documentation effort. 
> I've added you to our team list on our wiki.
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Documentation+Team
> 
> We are planning a skype call next week and are just deciding on a date and 
> time and so far my proposal for Tuesday 27th February at 14.00 (UTC+1) seems 
> to be acceptable, so if you are interested, you are also welcome to join the 
> call.
> 
> Thanks
> Sharan
> 
> On 2018/02/20 09:18:23, Badar Ali  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Apachian,
> >
> > I am newbie regarding Documentation work. I want to be part of this amazing 
> > team and want to learn from you. Kindly Tell me how can I be part of this 
> > team?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Badar Ali
> >
> > 
> > From: Olivier Heintz 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 PM
> > To: OFBiz User
> > Subject: Re: [SKYPE CALL] Initial Call to Kickstart Documentation Team
> >
> > me too.
> >
> > Le 19/02/2018 à 17:39, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> > > I am fine with this time or anytime decided by the community, I have a
> > > flexible schedule.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:55 AM, Sharan Foga  wrote:
> > >> Hi All
> > >>
> > >> I've taken a look at the meeting times based on the timezones currently 
> > >> listed in documentation team table. We have a wide range of locations 
> > >> (UTC -5 to UTC+5.5) so it's not going to be perfect timing for everyone. 
> > >> Looking at the possible combinations, I've come up with a two options 
> > >> for a call time.
> > >>
> > >> Call Time Option 1
> > >> ===
> > >>   UTC-5 (New York, Boston): 08.00
> > >>   UTC+1 (Czech Republic, Germany, France) : 14.00
> > >>   UTC+2 (South Africa): 15.00
> > >>   UTC+3 (Kuwait) : 16.00
> > >>   UTC+5.5 (India) : 18.30
> > >>
> > >> Call Time Option  2
> > >> 
> > >>   UTC-5 (New York, Boston): 09.00
> > >>   UTC+1 (Czech Republic, Germany, France) : 15.00
> > >>   UTC+2 (South Africa): 16.00
> > >>   UTC+3 (Kuwait) : 17.00
> > >>   UTC+5.5 (India) : 19.30
> > >>
> > >> My schedule is pretty full this week with not much availability so would 
> > >> prefer to move the call out to next week. I think it will also give us a 
> > >> bit more time for preparation. So looking at next week, the 3 dates I 
> > >> would suggest are:
> > >>
> > >> - Tuesday 27th February 2018
> > >> - Wednesday 28th February 2018
> > >> - Thursday 1st March 2018
> > >>
> > >> My preferred date and time would be :
> > >>
> > >> - Tuesday 27th February at 14.00 (UTC+1)
> > >>
> > >> Please let me know if this would work for you all and if not then please 
> > >> suggest your potential alternative.
> > >>
> > >> As usual, all feedback and comments welcome! :-)
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> Sharan
> > >>
> > >> On 2018/02/14 08:22:03, Sharan Foga  wrote:
> > >>> Hi Everyone
> > >>>
> > >>> I'd like to organise a call with all the volunteers interested in being 
> > >>> part of our OFBiz documentation team.
> > >>>
> > >>> We need to discuss how we can plan and organise ourselves to  get this 
> > >>> work started. It will also give people some background information 
> > >>> about what can be done.
> > >>>
> > >>> Taher, who has worked on implementing the documentation framework into 
> > >>> the OFBiz code, would also like to talk to the team and explain some of 
> > >>> the technical details that could affect how we plan and manage the work.
> > >>>
> > >>> So I'd like to invite all of our documentation team volunteers (and 
> > >>> also anyone else from the community who is interested) to a Skype call.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you would like to attend then please add your location and timezone 
> > >>> to the table so that I can find a suitable time for everyone. (See link 
> > >>> below)
> > >>>
> > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Documentation+Team
> > >>>
> > >>> Even if you are not currently on the list of documentation volunteers 
> > >>> but would like to attend, please add your details.
> > >>>
> > >>> I was originally thinking of a Hangout but I've read that the limit for 
> > >>> a hangout is 10 (and we have 16 people in the list:-) so Skype is going 
> > >>> to be a better solution.
> > >>>
> > >>> As al

Re: [SKYPE CALL] Initial Call to Kickstart Documentation Team

[Sharan Foga]

Hi Allan

Thanks for the information and I've added you to the Skype group.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2018/02/21 07:49:43, Allan Zarsuela  wrote: 
> Hi Sharan,
> 
> Thank you for adding me in the list. I am available on Tuesday Feb. 27
> UTC+3 (Kuwait) : 16.00
> 
> My skype: allan.l.zarsuela
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Sharan Foga  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Allan
> >
> > Welcome!  People can join the documentation effort (and any other of our
> > community tasks( at any time and there are always places for people to help
> > out :-).
> >
> > I have added your name to the team list on the wiki.
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Documentation+Team
> >
> > If you'd like to join the Skype call next week, please let me have your
> > skype account name (you can email me offline if you prefer) and I will add
> > you to the group.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> > On 2018/02/21 05:21:30, Allan Zarsuela  wrote:
> > > Hi Sharan,
> > >
> > > I would like to volunteer for the documentation team if there is still an
> > > available slot. Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Badar Ali 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Sharan,
> > > >
> > > > I love to work with you guys. I am ready for skype call. Let me recall
> > the
> > > > time and date. Are you going to have a meeting with me on Tuesday 27th
> > > > February at 14.00 (UTC+1) which is 4.00 pm according to Pakistan time?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Badar Ali
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > From: Sharan Foga 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:59 PM
> > > > To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [SKYPE CALL] Initial Call to Kickstart Documentation Team
> > > >
> > > > Hi Badar
> > > >
> > > > Welcome and thanks for wanting to help out with our documentation
> > effort.
> > > > I've added you to our team list on our wiki.
> > > >
> > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+
> > Documentation+Team
> > > >
> > > > We are planning a skype call next week and are just deciding on a date
> > and
> > > > time and so far my proposal for Tuesday 27th February at 14.00 (UTC+1)
> > > > seems to be acceptable, so if you are interested, you are also welcome
> > to
> > > > join the call.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Sharan
> > > >
> > > > On 2018/02/20 09:18:23, Badar Ali  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Apachian,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am newbie regarding Documentation work. I want to be part of this
> > > > amazing team and want to learn from you. Kindly Tell me how can I be
> > part
> > > > of this team?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Badar Ali
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > From: Olivier Heintz 
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:51 PM
> > > > > To: OFBiz User
> > > > > Subject: Re: [SKYPE CALL] Initial Call to Kickstart Documentation
> > Team
> > > > >
> > > > > me too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Le 19/02/2018 à 17:39, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
> > > > > > I am fine with this time or anytime decided by the community, I
> > have a
> > > > > > flexible schedule.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:55 AM, Sharan Foga 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> Hi All
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I've taken a look at the meeting times based on the timezones
> > > > currently listed in documentation team table. We have a wide range of
> > > > locations (UTC -5 to UTC+5.5) so it's not going to be perfect timing
> > for
> > > > everyone. Looking at the possible combinations, I've come up with a two
> > > > options for a call time.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Call Time Option 1
> > > > > >> ===
> > > > > >>   UTC-5 (New York, Boston): 08.00
> > > > > >>   UTC+1 (Czech Republic, Germany, France) : 14.00
> > > > > >>   UTC+2 (South Africa): 15.00
> > > > > >>   UTC+3 (Kuwait) : 16.00
> > > > > >>   UTC+5.5 (India) : 18.30
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Call Time Option  2
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >>   UTC-5 (New York, Boston): 09.00
> > > > > >>   UTC+1 (Czech Republic, Germany, France) : 15.00
> > > > > >>   UTC+2 (South Africa): 16.00
> > > > > >>   UTC+3 (Kuwait) : 17.00
> > > > > >>   UTC+5.5 (India) : 19.30
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> My schedule is pretty full this week with not much availability so
> > > > would prefer to move the call out to next week. I think it will also
> > give
> > > > us a bit more time for preparation. So looking at next week, the 3
> > dates I
> > > > would suggest are:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> - Tuesday 27th February 2018
> > > > > >> - Wednesday 28th February 2018
> > > > > >> - Thursday 1st March 2018
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> My preferred date and time would be :
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> - Tuesday 27th February at 14.00 (UTC+1)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Please let me know if this would work for you all and if not then
> > > > please suggest your potential alternative.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> As usual, all feedback and comments welcom