Re: WebPOS Setup

[Jacques Le Roux]

I guess it's best to look at the POS data when they were still existing, eg

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/release15.12/specialpurpose/pos/data/DemoRetail.xml

You might also need tp look into

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/release15.12/specialpurpose/pos/data
 globally...

HTH

Jacques


Le 08/04/2017 à 21:48, stim...@comcast.net a écrit :

Hi,
  
Before I file the JIRA bug report, I want to check one more time about any ideas anyone might have on the particular blocker in the chain of requirements resulting in "Inventory Facility Id Required". This is currently at the root of the chain of details blocking WebPOS. In summary, I have not been able to figure out how to create an asset which is a facility producing "Inventory Facility Id". Neither asset nor facility applications seem to have a way of doing this. Does anyone have any last suggestion on something to try before filing the JIRA report?
  
Thanks!
  
- Original Message -From: Taher Alkhateeb <slidingfilame...@gmail.com>To: user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Sat, 08 Apr 2017 16:34:21 -0000 (UTC)Subject: Re: WebPOS Setup


It's up to you, but I would suggest to make it a comprehensive JIRA thataddresses all of 
your concerns, so maybe call it "unable to use WebPOS dueto missing data" if 
you like.

If that proves to be too big, we can always create sub tasks. It would becool 
to get this thing working properly.

On Apr 8, 2017 7:28 PM, <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:


Hi,>> Yes, this is how the problem started, and the end goal, to add a terminal> so WebPOS can be logged in to.>> However, this also exposed a chain of issues with no ability to enter data> through a standard mechanism while trying to create a retail store via> "Catalog Manager->Stores, click New Product Store" (a terminal for WebPOS> was the proverbial tip of the iceberg). You can't add the WebPOS until you> have a terminal, and you can't add a terminal until you have a store, and> you can't add a store until you have solved "Inventory Facility Id> Required"...and there appears to be no way to add an> asset/property/real-estate/facility which can be set up to have an> Inventory Facility Id, so the store can't be added.>> Should I add a JIRA bug based on the entire chain of missing requirements> leading up to the inability to log in to WebPOS?>> Thanks!>> - Original Message -From: Taher Alkhateeb <> slidingfilame...@gmail.com>To: user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Sat, 08 Apr> 2017 09:16:21 - (UTC)Subject: Re: WebPOS Setup>> Hello,>> Okay so it seems so far like the problem you are facing is simply> yourinability to use the WebPOS application because there are no> terminalsdefined. Is this correct?>> If yes, then this is mostly likely just some missing 
seed / demo data> thatwe should add to the WebPOS component. I suggest to create a JIRA for> thisand we can tackle this issue over there to resolve it permanently.>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:36 PM, <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:>> > Hi,>> I did try readers of both seed and seed-initial, this does not> seem to> have changed anything.>> So...how was the retail store in the> sample data added? Was the building> itself added by XML file edit/import> (I don't see how asset management can> be used to do this...loosely> speaking one could add real estate or> property, but I've not found any way> to mark that asset as a facility to> create a required facilityId)? For> OOTB, is this only possible through XML> edits? I could see this as> possible if the demo data were inherited from a> prior release and actual> interface was not used to initially load the data.>> Thanks!>> -> Original Message -From: Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>To:>> user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 09:09:35 - (UTC)Subject:>> Re: WebPOS Setup>> Hi Dan,>> Thank you for taking the time to write your> experiences down and> postingthem here. I feel confident that members of> this community can> findimprovement points to make OFBiz better.>> While 
it> may create confusion, the Facility Management component> isn'tpurely about> managing facilities (as inhttps://en.wikipedia.org/>> wiki/Facility_management) but more aboutwarehousing (inventory/stock>> control, receiving and shipping goods).>> The Asset Maint component seems> (to me) the logical place to creating> newfacilities, as they may be> closely linked to fixed assets (buildings,> etc).As in associations between> the FixedAsset (the building) and facility> (theoffice, the warehouse,> etc). How unfortunate that it isn't in OOTB.>> Best regards,>>>> Pierre> Smits>> ORRTIZ.COM

Re: WebPOS Setup

[stimits]

Hi,
 
Before I file the JIRA bug report, I want to check one more time about any 
ideas anyone might have on the particular blocker in the chain of requirements 
resulting in "Inventory Facility Id Required". This is currently at the root of 
the chain of details blocking WebPOS. In summary, I have not been able to 
figure out how to create an asset which is a facility producing "Inventory 
Facility Id". Neither asset nor facility applications seem to have a way of 
doing this. Does anyone have any last suggestion on something to try before 
filing the JIRA report?
 
Thanks!
 
- Original Message -From: Taher Alkhateeb 
<slidingfilame...@gmail.com>To: user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Sat, 08 Apr 2017 
16:34:21 -0000 (UTC)Subject: Re: WebPOS Setup

It's up to you, but I would suggest to make it a comprehensive JIRA 
thataddresses all of your concerns, so maybe call it "unable to use WebPOS 
dueto missing data" if you like.

If that proves to be too big, we can always create sub tasks. It would becool 
to get this thing working properly.

On Apr 8, 2017 7:28 PM, <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi,>> Yes, this is how the problem started, and the end goal, to add a 
> terminal> so WebPOS can be logged in to.>> However, this also exposed a chain 
> of issues with no ability to enter data> through a standard mechanism while 
> trying to create a retail store via> "Catalog Manager->Stores, click New 
> Product Store" (a terminal for WebPOS> was the proverbial tip of the 
> iceberg). You can't add the WebPOS until you> have a terminal, and you can't 
> add a terminal until you have a store, and> you can't add a store until you 
> have solved "Inventory Facility Id> Required"...and there appears to be no 
> way to add an> asset/property/real-estate/facility which can be set up to 
> have an> Inventory Facility Id, so the store can't be added.>> Should I add a 
> JIRA bug based on the entire chain of missing requirements> leading up to the 
> inability to log in to WebPOS?>> Thanks!>> - Original Message -From: 
> Taher Alkhateeb <> slidingfilame...@gmail.com>To: user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: 
> Sat, 08 Apr> 2017 09:16:21 - (UTC)Subject: Re: WebPOS Setup>> Hello,>> 
> Okay so it seems so far like the problem you are facing is simply> 
> yourinability to use the WebPOS application because there are no> 
> terminalsdefined. Is this correct?>> If yes, then this is mostly likely just 
> some missing seed / demo data> thatwe should add to the WebPOS component. I 
> suggest to create a JIRA for> thisand we can tackle this issue over there to 
> resolve it permanently.>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:36 PM, 
> <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:>> > Hi,>> I did try readers of both seed and 
> seed-initial, this does not> seem to> have changed anything.>> So...how was 
> the retail store in the> sample data added? Was the building> itself added by 
> XML file edit/import> (I don't see how asset management can> be used to do 
> this...loosely> speaking one could add real estate or> property, but I've not 
> found any way> to mark that asset as a facility to> create a required 
> facilityId)? For> OOTB, is this only possible through XML> edits? I could see 
> this as> possible if the demo data were inherited from a> prior release and 
> actual> interface was not used to initially load the data.>> Thanks!>> -> 
> Original Message -From: Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>To:>> 
> user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 09:09:35 - (UTC)Subject:>> 
> Re: WebPOS Setup>> Hi Dan,>> Thank you for taking the time to write your> 
> experiences down and> postingthem here. I feel confident that members of> 
> this community can> findimprovement points to make OFBiz better.>> While it> 
> may create confusion, the Facility Management component> isn'tpurely about> 
> managing facilities (as inhttps://en.wikipedia.org/>> 
> wiki/Facility_management) but more aboutwarehousing (inventory/stock>> 
> control, receiving and shipping goods).>> The Asset Maint component seems> 
> (to me) the logical place to creating> newfacilities, as they may be> closely 
> linked to fixed assets (buildings,> etc).As in associations between> the 
> FixedAsset (the building) and facility> (theoffice, the warehouse,> etc). How 
> unfortunate that it isn't in OOTB.>> Best regards,>>>> Pierre> Smits>> 
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>OFBiz based solutions &> services>> OFBiz 
> Extensions Marketplacehttp://oem.ofbi

Re: WebPOS Setup

[Taher Alkhateeb]

It's up to you, but I would suggest to make it a comprehensive JIRA that
addresses all of your concerns, so maybe call it "unable to use WebPOS due
to missing data" if you like.

If that proves to be too big, we can always create sub tasks. It would be
cool to get this thing working properly.

On Apr 8, 2017 7:28 PM, <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Yes, this is how the problem started, and the end goal, to add a terminal
> so WebPOS can be logged in to.
>
> However, this also exposed a chain of issues with no ability to enter data
> through a standard mechanism while trying to create a retail store via
> "Catalog Manager->Stores, click New Product Store" (a terminal for WebPOS
> was the proverbial tip of the iceberg). You can't add the WebPOS until you
> have a terminal, and you can't add a terminal until you have a store, and
> you can't add a store until you have solved "Inventory Facility Id
> Required"...and there appears to be no way to add an
> asset/property/real-estate/facility which can be set up to have an
> Inventory Facility Id, so the store can't be added.
>
> Should I add a JIRA bug based on the entire chain of missing requirements
> leading up to the inability to log in to WebPOS?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Original Message -From: Taher Alkhateeb <
> slidingfilame...@gmail.com>To: user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Sat, 08 Apr
> 2017 09:16:21 - (UTC)Subject: Re: WebPOS Setup
>
> Hello,
>
> Okay so it seems so far like the problem you are facing is simply
> yourinability to use the WebPOS application because there are no
> terminalsdefined. Is this correct?
>
> If yes, then this is mostly likely just some missing seed / demo data
> thatwe should add to the WebPOS component. I suggest to create a JIRA for
> thisand we can tackle this issue over there to resolve it permanently.
>
> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:36 PM, <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Hi,>> I did try readers of both seed and seed-initial, this does not
> seem to> have changed anything.>> So...how was the retail store in the
> sample data added? Was the building> itself added by XML file edit/import
> (I don't see how asset management can> be used to do this...loosely
> speaking one could add real estate or> property, but I've not found any way
> to mark that asset as a facility to> create a required facilityId)? For
> OOTB, is this only possible through XML> edits? I could see this as
> possible if the demo data were inherited from a> prior release and actual
> interface was not used to initially load the data.>> Thanks!>> -
> Original Message -From: Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>To:>
> user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 09:09:35 - (UTC)Subject:>
> Re: WebPOS Setup>> Hi Dan,>> Thank you for taking the time to write your
> experiences down and> postingthem here. I feel confident that members of
> this community can> findimprovement points to make OFBiz better.>> While it
> may create confusion, the Facility Management component> isn'tpurely about
> managing facilities (as inhttps://en.wikipedia.org/>
> wiki/Facility_management) but more aboutwarehousing (inventory/stock>
> control, receiving and shipping goods).>> The Asset Maint component seems
> (to me) the logical place to creating> newfacilities, as they may be
> closely linked to fixed assets (buildings,> etc).As in associations between
> the FixedAsset (the building) and facility> (theoffice, the warehouse,
> etc). How unfortunate that it isn't in OOTB.>> Best regards,>>>> Pierre
> Smits>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>OFBiz based solutions &
> services>> OFBiz Extensions Marketplacehttp://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/>> On
> Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 6:05 AM, Taher Alkhateeb <> slidingfilame...@gmail.com
> >wrote:>> > Hi>> I'm not sure if this would help, but the readers has
> only seed> data,> perhaps adding seed-initial might solve some problems?>>
> > On Apr 7,> 2017, at 12:28 AM, stim...@comcast.net wrote:> >> > Hi,> >>
> > Thought I'd> summarize with some specific steps since I've made
> progress,> but still> fail (writing down to explain to others might help me
> catch my> own> mistakes too).> >> > Problem: I need WebPOS to work on a
> brand new install> using my own> hand-entered data for a real retail store
> (versus demo data).> WebPOS login> page can be reached, but login cannot
> occur because there are> no terminals.> Apparently terminals cannot be
> added until there is a retail> store.> Creating the retail store

Re: WebPOS Setup

[stimits]

Hi,
 
Yes, this is how the problem started, and the end goal, to add a terminal so 
WebPOS can be logged in to.
 
However, this also exposed a chain of issues with no ability to enter data 
through a standard mechanism while trying to create a retail store via "Catalog 
Manager->Stores, click New Product Store" (a terminal for WebPOS was the 
proverbial tip of the iceberg). You can't add the WebPOS until you have a 
terminal, and you can't add a terminal until you have a store, and you can't 
add a store until you have solved "Inventory Facility Id Required"...and there 
appears to be no way to add an asset/property/real-estate/facility which can be 
set up to have an Inventory Facility Id, so the store can't be added.
 
Should I add a JIRA bug based on the entire chain of missing requirements 
leading up to the inability to log in to WebPOS?
 
Thanks!
 
- Original Message -From: Taher Alkhateeb 
<slidingfilame...@gmail.com>To: user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Sat, 08 Apr 2017 
09:16:21 -0000 (UTC)Subject: Re: WebPOS Setup

Hello,

Okay so it seems so far like the problem you are facing is simply yourinability 
to use the WebPOS application because there are no terminalsdefined. Is this 
correct?

If yes, then this is mostly likely just some missing seed / demo data thatwe 
should add to the WebPOS component. I suggest to create a JIRA for thisand we 
can tackle this issue over there to resolve it permanently.

On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:36 PM, <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi,>> I did try readers of both seed and seed-initial, this does not seem to> 
> have changed anything.>> So...how was the retail store in the sample data 
> added? Was the building> itself added by XML file edit/import (I don't see 
> how asset management can> be used to do this...loosely speaking one could add 
> real estate or> property, but I've not found any way to mark that asset as a 
> facility to> create a required facilityId)? For OOTB, is this only possible 
> through XML> edits? I could see this as possible if the demo data were 
> inherited from a> prior release and actual interface was not used to 
> initially load the data.>> Thanks!>> - Original Message -From: Pierre 
> Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>To:> user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Fri, 07 Apr 
> 2017 09:09:35 - (UTC)Subject:> Re: WebPOS Setup>> Hi Dan,>> Thank you for 
> taking the time to write your experiences down and> postingthem here. I feel 
> confident that members of this community can> findimprovement points to make 
> OFBiz better.>> While it may create confusion, the Facility Management 
> component> isn'tpurely about managing facilities (as 
> inhttps://en.wikipedia.org/> wiki/Facility_management) but more 
> aboutwarehousing (inventory/stock> control, receiving and shipping goods).>> 
> The Asset Maint component seems (to me) the logical place to creating> 
> newfacilities, as they may be closely linked to fixed assets (buildings,> 
> etc).As in associations between the FixedAsset (the building) and facility> 
> (theoffice, the warehouse, etc). How unfortunate that it isn't in OOTB.>> 
> Best regards,>>>> Pierre Smits>> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>OFBiz 
> based solutions & services>> OFBiz Extensions 
> Marketplacehttp://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/>> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 6:05 AM, 
> Taher Alkhateeb <> slidingfilame...@gmail.com>wrote:>> > Hi>> I'm not sure if 
> this would help, but the readers has only seed> data,> perhaps adding 
> seed-initial might solve some problems?>> > On Apr 7,> 2017, at 12:28 AM, 
> stim...@comcast.net wrote:> >> > Hi,> >> > Thought I'd> summarize with some 
> specific steps since I've made progress,> but still> fail (writing down to 
> explain to others might help me catch my> own> mistakes too).> >> > Problem: 
> I need WebPOS to work on a brand new install> using my own> hand-entered data 
> for a real retail store (versus demo data).> WebPOS login> page can be 
> reached, but login cannot occur because there are> no terminals.> Apparently 
> terminals cannot be added until there is a retail> store.> Creating the 
> retail store and associating terminals is failing.> >>> > The explicit 
> steps:> >> > I drop the PostgreSQL DBs (to clear old data),> recreate them, 
> then run:> > ./gradlew 'ofbiz --load-data readers=seed'> >>> > I then create 
> "admin" user via:> > ./gradlew loadAdminUserLogin> -PuserLoginId=admin> >> > 
> Start ofbiz:> > ./gradlew ofbiz> >> > Under the> setup app I create Comp

Re: WebPOS Setup

[Taher Alkhateeb]

Hello,

Okay so it seems so far like the problem you are facing is simply your
inability to use the WebPOS application because there are no terminals
defined. Is this correct?

If yes, then this is mostly likely just some missing seed / demo data that
we should add to the WebPOS component. I suggest to create a JIRA for this
and we can tackle this issue over there to resolve it permanently.

On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:36 PM, <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I did try readers of both seed and seed-initial, this does not seem to
> have changed anything.
>
> So...how was the retail store in the sample data added? Was the building
> itself added by XML file edit/import (I don't see how asset management can
> be used to do this...loosely speaking one could add real estate or
> property, but I've not found any way to mark that asset as a facility to
> create a required facilityId)? For OOTB, is this only possible through XML
> edits? I could see this as possible if the demo data were inherited from a
> prior release and actual interface was not used to initially load the data.
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Original Message -From: Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>To:
> user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Fri, 07 Apr 2017 09:09:35 - (UTC)Subject:
> Re: WebPOS Setup
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to write your experiences down and
> postingthem here. I feel confident that members of this community can
> findimprovement points to make OFBiz better.
>
> While it may create confusion, the Facility Management component
> isn'tpurely about managing facilities (as inhttps://en.wikipedia.org/
> wiki/Facility_management) but more aboutwarehousing (inventory/stock
> control, receiving and shipping goods).
>
> The Asset Maint component seems (to me) the logical place to creating
> newfacilities, as they may be closely linked to fixed assets (buildings,
> etc).As in associations between the FixedAsset (the building) and facility
> (theoffice, the warehouse, etc). How unfortunate that it isn't in OOTB.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Pierre Smits
>
> ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>OFBiz based solutions & services
>
> OFBiz Extensions Marketplacehttp://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
>
> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 6:05 AM, Taher Alkhateeb <
> slidingfilame...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi>> I'm not sure if this would help, but the readers has only seed
> data,> perhaps adding seed-initial might solve some problems?>> > On Apr 7,
> 2017, at 12:28 AM, stim...@comcast.net wrote:> >> > Hi,> >> > Thought I'd
> summarize with some specific steps since I've made progress,> but still
> fail (writing down to explain to others might help me catch my> own
> mistakes too).> >> > Problem: I need WebPOS to work on a brand new install
> using my own> hand-entered data for a real retail store (versus demo data).
> WebPOS login> page can be reached, but login cannot occur because there are
> no terminals.> Apparently terminals cannot be added until there is a retail
> store.> Creating the retail store and associating terminals is failing.> >>
> > The explicit steps:> >> > I drop the PostgreSQL DBs (to clear old data),
> recreate them, then run:> > ./gradlew 'ofbiz --load-data readers=seed'> >>
> > I then create "admin" user via:> > ./gradlew loadAdminUserLogin
> -PuserLoginId=admin> >> > Start ofbiz:> > ./gradlew ofbiz> >> > Under the
> setup app I create Company (requires admin password update> first, Party Id
> "Company" created by manually typing in info of a real> company):> >
> https://localhost:8443/ofbizsetup/control/initialsetup> >> > Go to
> Catalog Manager->Stores, click New Product Store. "Primary Store> Group Id"
> can't be selected or entered ("Not Applicable [_NA_]" is all that> is
> there), the drop-down is empty other than "Not Applicable" (so I pick> Not
> Applicable). Set Store Name to "Main Store". It isn't a demo store, and> I
> don't know what the effect is, but I pick drop-down of "Is Demo Store" as>
> "N". Everything else is unmodified and default. Click Update. Error
> rejects> adding the store: "Inventory Facility Id Required".> >> > Summary
> 1: Store cannot be added via Catalog Manager until an Inventory> Facility
> Id is created.> >> > I switch now to Applications->Facility Manager. "Main"
> or "Facilities"> is only for searching, not for adding a Facility. This is
> where the prior> email reply mentions to do this under Asset

Re: WebPOS Setup

[Pierre Smits]

Hi Dan,

Thank you for taking the time to write your experiences down and posting
them here. I feel confident that members of this community can find
improvement points to make OFBiz better.

While it may create confusion, the Facility Management component isn't
purely about managing facilities (as in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facility_management) but more about
warehousing (inventory/stock control, receiving and shipping goods).

The Asset Maint component seems (to me) the logical place to creating new
facilities, as they may be closely linked to fixed assets (buildings, etc).
As in associations between the FixedAsset (the building) and facility (the
office, the warehouse, etc). How unfortunate that it isn't in OOTB.

Best regards,



Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM 
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 6:05 AM, Taher Alkhateeb 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> I'm not sure if this would help, but the readers has only seed data,
> perhaps adding seed-initial might solve some problems?
>
> > On Apr 7, 2017, at 12:28 AM, stim...@comcast.net wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Thought I'd summarize with some specific steps since I've made progress,
> but still fail (writing down to explain to others might help me catch my
> own mistakes too).
> >
> > Problem: I need WebPOS to work on a brand new install using my own
> hand-entered data for a real retail store (versus demo data). WebPOS login
> page can be reached, but login cannot occur because there are no terminals.
> Apparently terminals cannot be added until there is a retail store.
> Creating the retail store and associating terminals is failing.
> >
> > The explicit steps:
> >
> > I drop the PostgreSQL DBs (to clear old data), recreate them, then run:
> > ./gradlew 'ofbiz --load-data readers=seed'
> >
> > I then create "admin" user via:
> > ./gradlew loadAdminUserLogin -PuserLoginId=admin
> >
> > Start ofbiz:
> > ./gradlew ofbiz
> >
> > Under the setup app I create Company (requires admin password update
> first, Party Id "Company" created by manually typing in info of a real
> company):
> > https://localhost:8443/ofbizsetup/control/initialsetup
> >
> > Go to Catalog Manager->Stores, click New Product Store. "Primary Store
> Group Id" can't be selected or entered ("Not Applicable [_NA_]" is all that
> is there), the drop-down is empty other than "Not Applicable" (so I pick
> Not Applicable). Set Store Name to "Main Store". It isn't a demo store, and
> I don't know what the effect is, but I pick drop-down of "Is Demo Store" as
> "N". Everything else is unmodified and default. Click Update. Error rejects
> adding the store: "Inventory Facility Id Required".
> >
> > Summary 1: Store cannot be added via Catalog Manager until an Inventory
> Facility Id is created.
> >
> > I switch now to Applications->Facility Manager. "Main" or "Facilities"
> is only for searching, not for adding a Facility. This is where the prior
> email reply mentions to do this under Asset Management, but Asset
> Management->Facility is also only for searching, not for creating a
> Facility. Perhaps it is a Fixed Asset?
> >
> > Summary 2: The required Facility Id of Summary 1 cannot be added under
> Applications->Facility Manager. Asset Management->Facility is also a search
> mechanism, and cannot be used to add the required facility.
> >
> > Under Fixed Asset I can click "New Fixed Asset". Is it "Real Estate",
> "Property", or "Other"? Real Estate is chosen since it is most descriptive
> (Property might be a tract of land, Real Estate is more specific since it
> implies a building on the land). When I get to RoleType ID I am convinced
> this is not the correct place to create a facility.
> >
> > Summary 3: I can add a new fixed asset, but it does not seem to give me
> a Facility Id. Perhaps I missed a detail.
> >
> > Under Applications->Facility Manager->Facility Groups I can click "New
> Group". The only part I can logically add is Facility Group Name, and I add
> "Retail Facility" in that text entry box. This fails. Although nothing is
> marked as mandatory, submitting this requires a currently missing
> parameter, "createFacilityGroup.facilityGroupTypeId". I don't really know
> if the Facility type is Management Structure, or if it is Pricing Group,
> but it seems Management Structure is more logical for a structure serving a
> store...I pick this. It works, I now have a Management Structure with
> Facility Group Name "Retail Facility". I don't have a Facility Id.
> >
> > Summary 4: I can add a Facility Group, but I'm unsure how to use this to
> create a Facility. I don't  believe this is the right approach.
> >
> > I'm now at a loss as to how to add a Facility since I've only found how
> to edit a facility which already exists in Asset Manager; Facility Manger
> is definitely the wrong place. If Asset Manager can add a facility and
> produce a Facility Id, how is this done? Do I 

Re: WebPOS Setup

[stimits]

Hi,
 
Thought I'd summarize with some specific steps since I've made progress, but 
still fail (writing down to explain to others might help me catch my own 
mistakes too).
 
Problem: I need WebPOS to work on a brand new install using my own hand-entered 
data for a real retail store (versus demo data). WebPOS login page can be 
reached, but login cannot occur because there are no terminals. Apparently 
terminals cannot be added until there is a retail store. Creating the retail 
store and associating terminals is failing.
 
The explicit steps:
 
I drop the PostgreSQL DBs (to clear old data), recreate them, then run:
./gradlew 'ofbiz --load-data readers=seed'
 
I then create "admin" user via:
./gradlew loadAdminUserLogin -PuserLoginId=admin
 
Start ofbiz:
./gradlew ofbiz
 
Under the setup app I create Company (requires admin password update first, 
Party Id "Company" created by manually typing in info of a real company):
https://localhost:8443/ofbizsetup/control/initialsetup
 
Go to Catalog Manager->Stores, click New Product Store. "Primary Store Group 
Id" can't be selected or entered ("Not Applicable [_NA_]" is all that is 
there), the drop-down is empty other than "Not Applicable" (so I pick Not 
Applicable). Set Store Name to "Main Store". It isn't a demo store, and I don't 
know what the effect is, but I pick drop-down of "Is Demo Store" as "N". 
Everything else is unmodified and default. Click Update. Error rejects adding 
the store: "Inventory Facility Id Required".
 
Summary 1: Store cannot be added via Catalog Manager until an Inventory 
Facility Id is created.
 
I switch now to Applications->Facility Manager. "Main" or "Facilities" is only 
for searching, not for adding a Facility. This is where the prior email reply 
mentions to do this under Asset Management, but Asset Management->Facility is 
also only for searching, not for creating a Facility. Perhaps it is a Fixed 
Asset?
 
Summary 2: The required Facility Id of Summary 1 cannot be added under 
Applications->Facility Manager. Asset Management->Facility is also a search 
mechanism, and cannot be used to add the required facility.
 
Under Fixed Asset I can click "New Fixed Asset". Is it "Real Estate", 
"Property", or "Other"? Real Estate is chosen since it is most descriptive 
(Property might be a tract of land, Real Estate is more specific since it 
implies a building on the land). When I get to RoleType ID I am convinced this 
is not the correct place to create a facility.
 
Summary 3: I can add a new fixed asset, but it does not seem to give me a 
Facility Id. Perhaps I missed a detail.
 
Under Applications->Facility Manager->Facility Groups I can click "New Group". 
The only part I can logically add is Facility Group Name, and I add "Retail 
Facility" in that text entry box. This fails. Although nothing is marked as 
mandatory, submitting this requires a currently missing parameter, 
"createFacilityGroup.facilityGroupTypeId". I don't really know if the Facility 
type is Management Structure, or if it is Pricing Group, but it seems 
Management Structure is more logical for a structure serving a store...I pick 
this. It works, I now have a Management Structure with Facility Group Name 
"Retail Facility". I don't have a Facility Id.
 
Summary 4: I can add a Facility Group, but I'm unsure how to use this to create 
a Facility. I don't  believe this is the right approach.
 
I'm now at a loss as to how to add a Facility since I've only found how to edit 
a facility which already exists in Asset Manager; Facility Manger is definitely 
the wrong place. If Asset Manager can add a facility and produce a Facility Id, 
how is this done? Do I need to think of my Retail Store as a Fixed Asset of 
type Real Estate?
 
Thanks!
 

Re: WebPOS Setup

[stimits]

But...how do I add a retail store? I only see a way to edit an existing retail 
store. One company should have at least one retail store, possibly many (unless 
it does all sales online). If I can't add a store I will have none...if I have 
no stores, I can't open a WebPOS terminal because there are no terminals (there 
can't be terminals without retail stores).
 
- Original Message -From: Shi Jinghai <huaru...@hotmail.com>To: 
user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Tue, 04 Apr 2017 02:15:30 - (UTC)Subject: Re: 
WebPOS Setup

I think current data structure is right, in China, a retail store has at least 
2 facilities, one for storage, one for shop space. You can add an area amount 
to the shop space facility, and then it's easy to get its sales per square 
meter from order statics by day, month or year, this data can help a retailer 
to improve his/her product visual.

-邮件原件-发件人: stim...@comcast.net [mailto:stim...@comcast.net] 发送时间: 
2017年4月4日 4:23收件人: user@ofbiz.apache.org主题: Re: WebPOS Setup

Hi, Under Asset Maintenance, Facility, I can change existing facilities, but 
cannot add a new one. Should there be a button for "Add New Facility"? Is a 
retail store not a facility in this context? I do see that under Asset 
Maintenance, Fixed Assets has a button for New Fixed Asset, but this does not 
seem correct for adding a retail store. Same for New Maintenance...Maintenance 
items just doesn't seem like they are intended for adding a retail store 
facility. Perhaps I'm just not used to how the app words things. Just for 
humor, a modified quote: My kingdom for an Add Facility button! Thanks! PS: I 
don't have a kingdom, YMMV. - Original Message -From: Pierre Smits 
<pierre.sm...@gmail.com>To: user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 
18:59:28 -0000 (UTC)Subject: Re: WebPOS Setup

Hi Dan,

You can add new facilities, as well as existing ones, through theassetmaint 
appl.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplacehttp://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 8:35 PM, <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Just to reply to my own post on what I've found is that with sample data> you 
> can search and find the facility with facilityId MyRetailStore, but the> 
> functionality to add more facilities from scratch (to create a new physical> 
> retail store facility) seems to be completely non-existent (you can edit> 
> facilities, but you cannot create them...MyRetailStore is not part of a> 
> facility group, it is a facility it seems). I hope I'm wrong...can anyone> 
> verify if this is correct or not since I have so little experience with> this 
> app?>> It would make sense if adding a WebPOS terminal were part of the 
> retail> store edit since terminals would be associated that retail store. 
> When> editing the information for the existing sample data retail store there 
> is> (unfortunately) no link or clue as to how to edit any WebPOS terminals> 
> associated with that store.>> - Original Message -From: 
> stimits@comcast.netTo:> user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 02:20:27 
> - (UTC)Subject:> Re: WebPOS Setup>> Hi, I'm sure you are correct on this, 
> I need to add facilityId> MyRetailStore...I have facilityId Company with a 
> retail store type, but> this is not the same (and editing facilityId from 
> MyRetailStore to Company> does not help). I used the setup app originally on 
> the seeded (but not data> demo added) instance to add Company, but I'm having 
> a hard time figuring> out where a new facility other than the original 
> Company is> added...apparently this is not from the facility function of the 
> setup> application (I can edit "Company" ID, but I can't add more 
> facilities). Is> this a case of my needing to think about adding ID 
> MyRetailStore as> something other than a facility in the setup application? 
> E.G., some> sub-menu of Company setup? Thanks! - Original Message 
> -From: Pierre> Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>To: 
> user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Sun, 02 Apr> 2017 07:02:50 - (UTC)Subject: Re: 
> WebPOS Setup>> HI Dan,>> Please ensure that there also is a: facilityId="MyRetailStore" />> uploaded prior to uploading thedata regarding 
> terminals,>> Best regards,>> Pierre Smits>> ORRTIZ.COM 
> <http://www.orrtiz.com>OFBiz based solutions & services>> OFBiz Extensions 
> Marketplacehttp://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:54 AM, 
> <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:>> > Just an apology for prior email formatting. 
> It was nicely formatted and>> readable, but comcast web mail strips the 
> formatting and throws away my>> work sometimes.>

Re: WebPOS Setup

[Shi Jinghai]

I think current data structure is right, in China, a retail store has at least 
2 facilities, one for storage, one for shop space. You can add an area amount 
to the shop space facility, and then it's easy to get its sales per square 
meter from order statics by day, month or year, this data can help a retailer 
to improve his/her product visual.


-邮件原件-
发件人: stim...@comcast.net [mailto:stim...@comcast.net] 
发送时间: 2017年4月4日 4:23
收件人: user@ofbiz.apache.org
主题: Re: WebPOS Setup

Hi,
 
Under Asset Maintenance, Facility, I can change existing facilities, but cannot 
add a new one. Should there be a button for "Add New Facility"? Is a retail 
store not a facility in this context?
 
I do see that under Asset Maintenance, Fixed Assets has a button for New Fixed 
Asset, but this does not seem correct for adding a retail store. Same for New 
Maintenance...Maintenance items just doesn't seem like they are intended for 
adding a retail store facility. Perhaps I'm just not used to how the app words 
things.
 
Just for humor, a modified quote: My kingdom for an Add Facility button!
 
Thanks!
 
PS: I don't have a kingdom, YMMV.
 
- Original Message -From: Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>To: 
user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 18:59:28 - (UTC)Subject: Re: 
WebPOS Setup

Hi Dan,

You can add new facilities, as well as existing ones, through theassetmaint 
appl.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplacehttp://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 8:35 PM, <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Just to reply to my own post on what I've found is that with sample data> you 
> can search and find the facility with facilityId MyRetailStore, but the> 
> functionality to add more facilities from scratch (to create a new physical> 
> retail store facility) seems to be completely non-existent (you can edit> 
> facilities, but you cannot create them...MyRetailStore is not part of a> 
> facility group, it is a facility it seems). I hope I'm wrong...can anyone> 
> verify if this is correct or not since I have so little experience with> this 
> app?>> It would make sense if adding a WebPOS terminal were part of the 
> retail> store edit since terminals would be associated that retail store. 
> When> editing the information for the existing sample data retail store there 
> is> (unfortunately) no link or clue as to how to edit any WebPOS terminals> 
> associated with that store.>> - Original Message -From: 
> stimits@comcast.netTo:> user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 02:20:27 
> - (UTC)Subject:> Re: WebPOS Setup>> Hi, I'm sure you are correct on this, 
> I need to add facilityId> MyRetailStore...I have facilityId Company with a 
> retail store type, but> this is not the same (and editing facilityId from 
> MyRetailStore to Company> does not help). I used the setup app originally on 
> the seeded (but not data> demo added) instance to add Company, but I'm having 
> a hard time figuring> out where a new facility other than the original 
> Company is> added...apparently this is not from the facility function of the 
> setup> application (I can edit "Company" ID, but I can't add more 
> facilities). Is> this a case of my needing to think about adding ID 
> MyRetailStore as> something other than a facility in the setup application? 
> E.G., some> sub-menu of Company setup? Thanks! - Original Message 
> -From: Pierre> Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>To: 
> user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Sun, 02 Apr> 2017 07:02:50 - (UTC)Subject: Re: 
> WebPOS Setup>> HI Dan,>> Please ensure that there also is a: facilityId="MyRetailStore" />> uploaded prior to uploading thedata regarding 
> terminals,>> Best regards,>> Pierre Smits>> ORRTIZ.COM 
> <http://www.orrtiz.com>OFBiz based solutions & services>> OFBiz Extensions 
> Marketplacehttp://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/>> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:54 AM, 
> <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:>> > Just an apology for prior email formatting. 
> It was nicely formatted and>> readable, but comcast web mail strips the 
> formatting and throws away my>> work sometimes.>

Re: WebPOS Setup

[stimits]

Just to reply to my own post on what I've found is that with sample data you 
can search and find the facility with facilityId MyRetailStore, but the 
functionality to add more facilities from scratch (to create a new physical 
retail store facility) seems to be completely non-existent (you can edit 
facilities, but you cannot create them...MyRetailStore is not part of a 
facility group, it is a facility it seems). I hope I'm wrong...can anyone 
verify if this is correct or not since I have so little experience with this 
app?
 
It would make sense if adding a WebPOS terminal were part of the retail store 
edit since terminals would be associated that retail store. When editing the 
information for the existing sample data retail store there is (unfortunately) 
no link or clue as to how to edit any WebPOS terminals associated with that 
store.
 
- Original Message -From: stimits@comcast.netTo: 
user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Mon, 03 Apr 2017 02:20:27 - (UTC)Subject: Re: 
WebPOS Setup

Hi, I'm sure you are correct on this, I need to add facilityId 
MyRetailStore...I have facilityId Company with a retail store type, but this is 
not the same (and editing facilityId from MyRetailStore to Company does not 
help). I used the setup app originally on the seeded (but not data demo added) 
instance to add Company, but I'm having a hard time figuring out where a new 
facility other than the original Company is added...apparently this is not from 
the facility function of the setup application (I can edit "Company" ID, but I 
can't add more facilities). Is this a case of my needing to think about adding 
ID MyRetailStore as something other than a facility in the setup application? 
E.G., some sub-menu of Company setup? Thanks! - Original Message -From: 
Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>To: user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Sun, 02 Apr 
2017 07:02:50 - (UTC)Subject: Re: WebPOS Setup

HI Dan,

Please ensure that there also is a: 
uploaded prior to uploading thedata regarding terminals,

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplacehttp://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:54 AM, <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Just an apology for prior email formatting. It was nicely formatted and> 
> readable, but comcast web mail strips the formatting and throws away my> work 
> sometimes.

Re: WebPOS Setup

[Pierre Smits]

HI Dan,

Please ensure that there also is a:
  uploaded prior to uploading the
data regarding terminals,

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM 
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 1:54 AM,  wrote:

> Just an apology for prior email formatting. It was nicely formatted and
> readable, but comcast web mail strips the formatting and throws away my
> work sometimes.

Re: WebPOS Setup

[stimits]

Just an apology for prior email formatting. It was nicely formatted and 
readable, but comcast web mail strips the formatting and throws away my work 
sometimes.

Re: WebPOS Setup

[stimits]

Just an update on an attempt to work around missing terminals. If I import the 
sample data and then export it to XML I get this:
 
If I then clean the database and seed (no sample data), followed by webtools 
import of the XML, the WebPOS still has no terminals. There may be some other 
data to import which I do not know about. So using sample data as a partial 
import in order to get a terminal is not a workaround.

Re: WebPOS Setup

[stimits]

Hi,
 
I had hoped I could export the POS data and get a more or less empty XML dump 
which I could edit, but unfortunately empty tables do not export. I guess the 
next step is to put sample data back in, export, and edit the sample data XML 
files, drop sample data, re-seed, and then import the edited files.
 
I'll probably be adding a bug report too since there is no obvious way to add 
POS terminals (WebPOS, not older POS).
 
Thanks!
 
- Original Message -From: Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>To: 
user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Sat, 01 Apr 2017 11:40:07 - (UTC)Subject: Re: 
WebPOS Setup

Data can be added and managed through the WEBTOOLS component.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplacehttp://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 10:45 PM, <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Since WebPOS replaced any previous POS this is what I'm interested in> 
> bringing up. My observation is that when ofbiz starts and has the demo data> 
> that there are three POS terminals listed when logging in to the WebPOS.> 
> There was no special command to start any standalone POS, so either the> 
> defined terminals (WebPOS concept, not computer terminal) are entirely> 
> defined by data, or else the data is responsible for causing launch of> 
> WebPOS terminals based on that data. Somehow someone created demo data and> 
> defined three POS terminals. How was this done?>> I know it isn't via the 
> WebPOS login itself, as you cannot log in to> WebPOS unless terminals already 
> exist. I did not see any other admin type> interface to add a POS to the 
> WebPOS. I am wondering if the only way to do> this is to directly manipulate 
> the data? If old data from a prior version> was imported for part of the 
> current 16.11.01 demo data, then perhaps the> interface was completely lost 
> and nobody noticed because the demo data hid> the missing method for creating 
> a POS. Does anyone know if the demo data> POS definitions were imported from 
> a prior version of demo data?>> Thanks!>> - Original Message -From: 
> Jacques Le Roux <> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>To: 
> user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Fri, 31 Mar> 2017 04:48:17 - (UTC)Subject: Re: 
> WebPOS Setup>> Le 30/03/2017  23:34, stim...@comcast.net a 
> crit :> Hi,>> > Thanks for the update, links now work.> > I still see 
> older docs which> don't seem to be correct for gradlew. In particular I'm 
> thinking the> command for starting a standalone POS might help as this would 
> maybe create> a terminal...and the current WebPOS can't be logged in to 
> without a> terminal. The command listed here does not exist in 16.11.01 
> (gradlew)> ofbiz:> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.> 
> action?pageId=65866466#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProduction> 
> SetupGuide-POSSetupProcess> > That command (with jar file location being> 
> corrected) is:> java -jar ./build/libs/ofbiz.jar --posActually the POS has> 
> been pushed to Attic just before creating the R16 branch, where Gradle was> 
> 1st put in. That's why the doc also stop with Ant. The WebPos is not> 
> concerned and is something different.> Does anyone here know if WebPOS> 
> terminals are not actually something added as data and instead reflect> 
> actually running POS terminals?Yes something like that indeed, but it's the> 
> notion of POS terminal, not Linux Terminal. A POS terminal is where the> 
> client pay. I can't say more about this, and it's maybe wrong.> If so, how> 
> does one start a terminal under gradlew?I guess you need to have an OFBiz> 
> instance running where the client pay.>> I hope someone will confirm, I was 
> the POS maintainer, but don't know well> the WebPos.>> Jacques> If not, how 
> does one add a terminal to the database since the POS> app cannot be logged 
> into without a pre-existing terminal (a bit of a> proverbial "catch-22").> > 
> Thanks!> > - Original Message -From:> Jacques Le Roux 
> <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>To:> user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Thu, 30 Mar 
> 2017 19:36:07 - (UTC)Subject:> Re: WebPOS Setup>> Le 29/03/2017  
> 22:29, stim...@comcast.net a> crit :> Hi,> > I was looking at this 
> document regarding the POS> setup:> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/POS+System> >> This in turn 
> mentions another document here, described as "POS Setup> Process":> 
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+> 
> Technical+Production+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProduction> 
> SetupG

Re: WebPOS Setup

[Pierre Smits]

Data can be added and managed through the WEBTOOLS component.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 10:45 PM, <stim...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Since WebPOS replaced any previous POS this is what I'm interested in
> bringing up. My observation is that when ofbiz starts and has the demo data
> that there are three POS terminals listed when logging in to the WebPOS.
> There was no special command to start any standalone POS, so either the
> defined terminals (WebPOS concept, not computer terminal) are entirely
> defined by data, or else the data is responsible for causing launch of
> WebPOS terminals based on that data. Somehow someone created demo data and
> defined three POS terminals. How was this done?
>
> I know it isn't via the WebPOS login itself, as you cannot log in to
> WebPOS unless terminals already exist. I did not see any other admin type
> interface to add a POS to the WebPOS. I am wondering if the only way to do
> this is to directly manipulate the data? If old data from a prior version
> was imported for part of the current 16.11.01 demo data, then perhaps the
> interface was completely lost and nobody noticed because the demo data hid
> the missing method for creating a POS. Does anyone know if the demo data
> POS definitions were imported from a prior version of demo data?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Original Message -From: Jacques Le Roux <
> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>To: user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Fri, 31 Mar
> 2017 04:48:17 - (UTC)Subject: Re: WebPOS Setup
>
> Le 30/03/2017  23:34, stim...@comcast.net a crit :> Hi,>
> > Thanks for the update, links now work.> > I still see older docs which
> don't seem to be correct for gradlew. In particular I'm thinking the
> command for starting a standalone POS might help as this would maybe create
> a terminal...and the current WebPOS can't be logged in to without a
> terminal. The command listed here does not exist in 16.11.01 (gradlew)
> ofbiz:> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.
> action?pageId=65866466#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProduction
> SetupGuide-POSSetupProcess> > That command (with jar file location being
> corrected) is:> java -jar ./build/libs/ofbiz.jar --posActually the POS has
> been pushed to Attic just before creating the R16 branch, where Gradle was
> 1st put in. That's why the doc also stop with Ant. The WebPos is not
> concerned and is something different.> Does anyone here know if WebPOS
> terminals are not actually something added as data and instead reflect
> actually running POS terminals?Yes something like that indeed, but it's the
> notion of POS terminal, not Linux Terminal. A POS terminal is where the
> client pay. I can't say more about this, and it's maybe wrong.> If so, how
> does one start a terminal under gradlew?I guess you need to have an OFBiz
> instance running where the client pay.
>
> I hope someone will confirm, I was the POS maintainer, but don't know well
> the WebPos.
>
> Jacques> If not, how does one add a terminal to the database since the POS
> app cannot be logged into without a pre-existing terminal (a bit of a
> proverbial "catch-22").> > Thanks!> > - Original Message -From:
> Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>To:
> user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:36:07 - (UTC)Subject:
> Re: WebPOS Setup>> Le 29/03/2017  22:29, stim...@comcast.net a
> crit :> Hi,> > I was looking at this document regarding the POS
> setup:> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/POS+System> >
> This in turn mentions another document here, described as "POS Setup
> Process":> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+
> Technical+Production+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProduction
> SetupGuide-POSSetupProcess> > Unfortunately that document is an invalid
> link. Does anyone know if this was moved somewhere and is still
> available?Yes, while changing the content of the https://cwiki.apache.org/
> confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide
> page it to reflect the Gradle move from Ant, I put a link to the previous
> version in the top of the page. So it was easy to change the faulty link.
> It's now done, HTH>>>> Basically, when starting with seed and no demo data,
> I'm looking for a way to log in to the WebPOS (I've already added the admin
> user and some other details). The problem is that WebPOS can't log in
> without picking a terminal ("Choose Terminal" is empty), but there are no
> terminals to choose, so I was hoping the above document would mention how
> to add a terminal. If that document is not available, perhaps someone could
> mention which menu or web page to use for adding terminals when there are
> none to start with.> > Thanks!>I don't know well the webPOS, I hope someone
> else will be able to help you> Jacques>>
>
>

Re: WebPOS Setup

[Jacques Le Roux]

Also this might help for filling Jira and such

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Contributors+Best+Practices

Jacques


Le 01/04/2017 à 12:01, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :

Hi there,

So the POS component was deprecated and removed from OFBiz for reasons
which were thoroughly discussed in the ML which left some bugs in the
WebPOS and some outdated documentation. So it is a little bit of
trial-and-error at the moment to get things working.

My suggestion is to try and figure things out, and if you face any genuine
bugs (I suspect this to be one of them) file a JIRA and we'll try to help
you out in resolving them.

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:29 PM,  wrote:


Hi,

I was looking at this document regarding the POS setup:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/POS+System

This in turn mentions another document here, described as "POS Setup
Process":
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+
Technical+Production+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProduction
SetupGuide-POSSetupProcess

Unfortunately that document is an invalid link. Does anyone know if this
was moved somewhere and is still available?

Basically, when starting with seed and no demo data, I'm looking for a way
to log in to the WebPOS (I've already added the admin user and some other
details). The problem is that WebPOS can't log in without picking a
terminal ("Choose Terminal" is empty), but there are no terminals to
choose, so I was hoping the above document would mention how to add a
terminal. If that document is not available, perhaps someone could mention
which menu or web page to use for adding terminals when there are none to
start with.

Thanks!

Re: WebPOS Setup

[Taher Alkhateeb]

Hi there,

So the POS component was deprecated and removed from OFBiz for reasons
which were thoroughly discussed in the ML which left some bugs in the
WebPOS and some outdated documentation. So it is a little bit of
trial-and-error at the moment to get things working.

My suggestion is to try and figure things out, and if you face any genuine
bugs (I suspect this to be one of them) file a JIRA and we'll try to help
you out in resolving them.

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:29 PM,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was looking at this document regarding the POS setup:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/POS+System
>
> This in turn mentions another document here, described as "POS Setup
> Process":
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+
> Technical+Production+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProduction
> SetupGuide-POSSetupProcess
>
> Unfortunately that document is an invalid link. Does anyone know if this
> was moved somewhere and is still available?
>
> Basically, when starting with seed and no demo data, I'm looking for a way
> to log in to the WebPOS (I've already added the admin user and some other
> details). The problem is that WebPOS can't log in without picking a
> terminal ("Choose Terminal" is empty), but there are no terminals to
> choose, so I was hoping the above document would mention how to add a
> terminal. If that document is not available, perhaps someone could mention
> which menu or web page to use for adding terminals when there are none to
> start with.
>
> Thanks!

Re: WebPOS Setup

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 01/04/2017 à 00:53, stim...@comcast.net a écrit :

Additional question: Is this URL current? It doesn't look anything like the 
WebPOS sample data, perhaps it is from the older POS instead of WebPOS:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/6553725/OFBiz%20POS%20User%20Manual%20-%20version%209.11.pdf?version=2=1391944202000=v2


Yes it applies only to the POS not the WebPos. It's from 2009, last time the 
POS was updated

  
The reference to that URL came from here:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-OFBiz-POS(PointOfSales)
  
I am assuming the whole page is out of date since it uses ant.




No it's up to date, but only if using the POS.

Jacques

Re: WebPOS Setup

[stimits]

Additional question: Is this URL current? It doesn't look anything like the 
WebPOS sample data, perhaps it is from the older POS instead of WebPOS:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/6553725/OFBiz%20POS%20User%20Manual%20-%20version%209.11.pdf?version=2=1391944202000=v2
 
The reference to that URL came from here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/POS+System#POSSystem-OFBiz-POS(PointOfSales)
 
I am assuming the whole page is out of date since it uses ant.

Re: WebPOS Setup

[stimits]

Since WebPOS replaced any previous POS this is what I'm interested in bringing 
up. My observation is that when ofbiz starts and has the demo data that there 
are three POS terminals listed when logging in to the WebPOS. There was no 
special command to start any standalone POS, so either the defined terminals 
(WebPOS concept, not computer terminal) are entirely defined by data, or else 
the data is responsible for causing launch of WebPOS terminals based on that 
data. Somehow someone created demo data and defined three POS terminals. How 
was this done?
 
I know it isn't via the WebPOS login itself, as you cannot log in to WebPOS 
unless terminals already exist. I did not see any other admin type interface to 
add a POS to the WebPOS. I am wondering if the only way to do this is to 
directly manipulate the data? If old data from a prior version was imported for 
part of the current 16.11.01 demo data, then perhaps the interface was 
completely lost and nobody noticed because the demo data hid the missing method 
for creating a POS. Does anyone know if the demo data POS definitions were 
imported from a prior version of demo data?
 
Thanks!
 
- Original Message -From: Jacques Le Roux 
<jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>To: user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 
04:48:17 - (UTC)Subject: Re: WebPOS Setup

Le 30/03/2017  23:34, stim...@comcast.net a crit :> Hi,> > 
Thanks for the update, links now work.> > I still see older docs which don't 
seem to be correct for gradlew. In particular I'm thinking the command for 
starting a standalone POS might help as this would maybe create a 
terminal...and the current WebPOS can't be logged in to without a terminal. The 
command listed here does not exist in 16.11.01 (gradlew) ofbiz:> 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65866466#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProductionSetupGuide-POSSetupProcess>
 > That command (with jar file location being corrected) is:> java -jar 
./build/libs/ofbiz.jar --posActually the POS has been pushed to Attic just 
before creating the R16 branch, where Gradle was 1st put in. That's why the doc 
also stop with Ant. The WebPos is not concerned and is something different.> 
Does anyone here know if WebPOS terminals are not actually something added as 
data and instead reflect actually running POS terminals?Yes something like that 
indeed, but it's the notion of POS terminal, not Linux Terminal. A POS terminal 
is where the client pay. I can't say more about this, and it's maybe wrong.> If 
so, how does one start a terminal under gradlew?I guess you need to have an 
OFBiz instance running where the client pay.

I hope someone will confirm, I was the POS maintainer, but don't know well the 
WebPos.

Jacques> If not, how does one add a terminal to the database since the POS app 
cannot be logged into without a pre-existing terminal (a bit of a proverbial 
"catch-22").> > Thanks!> > - Original Message -From: Jacques Le Roux 
<jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>To: user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 
19:36:07 - (UTC)Subject: Re: WebPOS Setup>> Le 29/03/2017  22:29, 
stim...@comcast.net a crit :> Hi,> > I was looking at this document 
regarding the POS setup:> 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/POS+System> > This in turn 
mentions another document here, described as "POS Setup Process":> 
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProductionSetupGuide-POSSetupProcess>
 > Unfortunately that document is an invalid link. Does anyone know if this was 
moved somewhere and is still available?Yes, while changing the content of the 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide
 page it to reflect the Gradle move from Ant, I put a link to the previous 
version in the top of the page. So it was easy to change the faulty link. It's 
now done, HTH>>>> Basically, when starting with seed and no demo data, I'm 
looking for a way to log in to the WebPOS (I've already added the admin user 
and some other details). The problem is that WebPOS can't log in without 
picking a terminal ("Choose Terminal" is empty), but there are no terminals to 
choose, so I was hoping the above document would mention how to add a terminal. 
If that document is not available, perhaps someone could mention which menu or 
web page to use for adding terminals when there are none to start with.> > 
Thanks!>I don't know well the webPOS, I hope someone else will be able to help 
you> Jacques>>

Re: WebPOS Setup

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 30/03/2017 à 23:34, stim...@comcast.net a écrit :

Hi,
  
Thanks for the update, links now work.
  
I still see older docs which don't seem to be correct for gradlew. In particular I'm thinking the command for starting a standalone POS might help as this would maybe create a terminal...and the current WebPOS can't be logged in to without a terminal. The command listed here does not exist in 16.11.01 (gradlew) ofbiz:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65866466#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProductionSetupGuide-POSSetupProcess
  
That command (with jar file location being corrected) is:

java -jar ./build/libs/ofbiz.jar --pos
Actually the POS has been pushed to Attic just before creating the R16 branch, where Gradle was 1st put in. That's why the doc also stop with Ant. The 
WebPos is not concerned and is something different.

Does anyone here know if WebPOS terminals are not actually something added as 
data and instead reflect actually running POS terminals?
Yes something like that indeed, but it's the notion of POS terminal, not Linux Terminal. A POS terminal is where the client pay. I can't say more 
about this, and it's maybe wrong.

If so, how does one start a terminal under gradlew?

I guess you need to have an OFBiz instance running where the client pay.

I hope someone will confirm, I was the POS maintainer, but don't know well the 
WebPos.

Jacques

If not, how does one add a terminal to the database since the POS app cannot be logged 
into without a pre-existing terminal (a bit of a proverbial "catch-22").
  
Thanks!
  
- Original Message -From: Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>To: user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:36:07 - (UTC)Subject: Re: WebPOS Setup


Le 29/03/2017  22:29, stim...@comcast.net a crit :> Hi,> > I was looking at this document 
regarding the POS setup:> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/POS+System> > This in turn mentions 
another document here, described as "POS Setup Process":> 
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProductionSetupGuide-POSSetupProcess>
 > Unfortunately that document is an invalid link. Does anyone know if this was moved somewhere and is still 
available?Yes, while changing the content of the 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide page it to reflect the 
Gradle move from Ant, I put a link to the previous version in the top of the page. So it was easy to change the faulty link. 
It's now done, HTH


Basically, when starting with seed and no demo data, I'm looking for a way to log in to the WebPOS 
(I've already added the admin user and some other details). The problem is that WebPOS can't log 
in without picking a terminal ("Choose Terminal" is empty), but there are no terminals 
to choose, so I was hoping the above document would mention how to add a terminal. If that 
document is not available, perhaps someone could mention which menu or web page to use for adding 
terminals when there are none to start with.> > Thanks!>I don't know well the webPOS, I 
hope someone else will be able to help you

Jacques

Re: WebPOS Setup

[stimits]

Hi,
 
Thanks for the update, links now work.
 
I still see older docs which don't seem to be correct for gradlew. In 
particular I'm thinking the command for starting a standalone POS might help as 
this would maybe create a terminal...and the current WebPOS can't be logged in 
to without a terminal. The command listed here does not exist in 16.11.01 
(gradlew) ofbiz:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65866466#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProductionSetupGuide-POSSetupProcess
 
That command (with jar file location being corrected) is:
java -jar ./build/libs/ofbiz.jar --pos
 
Does anyone here know if WebPOS terminals are not actually something added as 
data and instead reflect actually running POS terminals? If so, how does one 
start a terminal under gradlew? If not, how does one add a terminal to the 
database since the POS app cannot be logged into without a pre-existing 
terminal (a bit of a proverbial "catch-22").
 
Thanks!
 
- Original Message -From: Jacques Le Roux 
<jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>To: user@ofbiz.apache.orgSent: Thu, 30 Mar 2017 
19:36:07 - (UTC)Subject: Re: WebPOS Setup

Le 29/03/2017  22:29, stim...@comcast.net a crit :> Hi,> > I 
was looking at this document regarding the POS setup:> 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/POS+System> > This in turn 
mentions another document here, described as "POS Setup Process":> 
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProductionSetupGuide-POSSetupProcess>
 > Unfortunately that document is an invalid link. Does anyone know if this was 
moved somewhere and is still available?Yes, while changing the content of the 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide
 page it to reflect the Gradle move from Ant, I put a link to the previous 
version in the top of the page. So it was easy to change the faulty link. It's 
now done, HTH

> > Basically, when starting with seed and no demo data, I'm looking for a way 
> > to log in to the WebPOS (I've already added the admin user and some other 
> > details). The problem is that WebPOS can't log in without picking a 
> > terminal ("Choose Terminal" is empty), but there are no terminals to 
> > choose, so I was hoping the above document would mention how to add a 
> > terminal. If that document is not available, perhaps someone could mention 
> > which menu or web page to use for adding terminals when there are none to 
> > start with.> > Thanks!>I don't know well the webPOS, I hope someone else 
> > will be able to help you

Jacques

Re: WebPOS Setup

[Jacques Le Roux]

Le 29/03/2017 à 22:29, stim...@comcast.net a écrit :

Hi,
  
I was looking at this document regarding the POS setup:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/POS+System
  
This in turn mentions another document here, described as "POS Setup Process":

http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProductionSetupGuide-POSSetupProcess
  
Unfortunately that document is an invalid link. Does anyone know if this was moved somewhere and is still available?
Yes, while changing the content of the https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide page it to 
reflect the Gradle move from Ant,  I put a link to the previous version in the top of the page. So it was easy to change the faulty link. It's now 
done, HTH


  
Basically, when starting with seed and no demo data, I'm looking for a way to log in to the WebPOS (I've already added the admin user and some other details). The problem is that WebPOS can't log in without picking a terminal ("Choose Terminal" is empty), but there are no terminals to choose, so I was hoping the above document would mention how to add a terminal. If that document is not available, perhaps someone could mention which menu or web page to use for adding terminals when there are none to start with.
  
Thanks!



I don't know well the webPOS, I hope someone else will be able to help you

Jacques

WebPOS Setup

[stimits]

Hi,
 
I was looking at this document regarding the POS setup:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/POS+System
 
This in turn mentions another document here, described as "POS Setup Process":
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBTECH/Apache+OFBiz+Technical+Production+Setup+Guide#ApacheOFBizTechnicalProductionSetupGuide-POSSetupProcess
 
Unfortunately that document is an invalid link. Does anyone know if this was 
moved somewhere and is still available?
 
Basically, when starting with seed and no demo data, I'm looking for a way to 
log in to the WebPOS (I've already added the admin user and some other 
details). The problem is that WebPOS can't log in without picking a terminal 
("Choose Terminal" is empty), but there are no terminals to choose, so I was 
hoping the above document would mention how to add a terminal. If that document 
is not available, perhaps someone could mention which menu or web page to use 
for adding terminals when there are none to start with.
 
Thanks!