Re: Recording using webrtc

[Daniel Baker]

Yeah  client  side  maybe a problem. Looking for alternatives. May roll 
my own  browser :-)


On 2/5/2019 5:09 PM, Aaron Hepp wrote:
Do all your "classes" start at a given time or are they different?  
You can use OBS on the instructors device to record the streams.  
There are python scripts to set a stop and start time for OBS or you 
can set up a hotkey(s) for the instructor to start recording.  Granted 
this is all client side and will then need to be uploaded to where 
ever people view your recordings.  I currently use this to broadcast 
out a "preview" of what is going on inside the room to visitors of the 
site, so they can see if they want to join the room if the discussion 
is something that suits them.


On 2/5/19 2:41 AM, Daniel Baker wrote:


Ok  we  will  figure  it  out. We need auto recording.



On 2/5/2019 2:20 PM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:

It seems I wasn't clear enough :(

Client side recording have some "cons":
1) The recording will be lost in case of any issue on client machine
1.1) or in case of the network error
2) Every client in the room already send his/her stream to the 
server, so it seems to be overkill to additionally send the 
recording (can be extremely huge)
*) Server already processes every frame of video/audio, so I see no 
need to record same data on the client

I see no "pros" in such solution
**) you still can record on your client then upload video to the room

Regarding auto-recording:
It is absolutely impossible to auto-start screen-sharing on client
Same way it is impossible to auto start camera of microphone
Over-wise it would be huge security hole .
This is why I see no way to "auto start recording"

Camera streams can easily be auto-recorded on the server, the 
question is: then what? Right now we taking video from the sharing, 
audio from camera streams and create "room recording".


On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 09:09, Daniel Baker 
mailto:i...@collisiondetection.biz>> 
wrote:


Hi Maxim,



1    it seems  there  is an option to  load  to server.

2   we  believe  it makes  sense  to    be able to record  in
any room.   Especially conferencing rooms. We  want to  record  
cams  and  the  whiteboard interactions.


The reason  for automating this is  to allow  the moderator to 
get on with   their  presentation without  having to  remember  
to click  record.


Thanks,


Dan

On 2/3/2019 10:04 AM, Maxim Solodovnik wrote:

Hello Daniel,

Lets try to make things clean:
1) The example you are referencing to uses "client side recording"
   i.e. it records to the memory of client browser.
   Om uses server side recording: recording performed and
stored on the server
2) Auto-recording can be implemented in any version of OM
   BUT it make sense for interview room only :(

Interview room has no whiteboard, so all we need to record:
camera streams of the participants
Other room type do have whiteboard and the only video being
used is the video of shared screen
(other streams are being used for audio only)

The process of starting screen-sharing can't be automated (in
any version)
It is easier in 5.0 since java web start application is no more
required but it is still manual process ...


On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 08:25, Daniel Baker
mailto:i...@collisiondetection.biz>> wrote:

This  seems   to work  well :

https://github.com/muaz-khan/RecordRTC




On 2/3/2019 7:01 AM, Daniel Baker wrote:


Maybe  not  the time to  mention this but for OM5  can 
we  automate  the process of  performing a  recording.
Maybe  an  admin  setting  -   record session   on 
entering  room.



Thanks,


Dan




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Re: Modern icon set in OM

[Peter Dähn]

Hi Dan,

Raphael will prepare it.

Greetings Peter

Am 14.02.19 um 13:27 schrieb Daniel Baker:
>
> Hi Peter,  your  styling  is very  nicely  done. Please  share  the 
> code  if you  don't  mind.
>
>
> I am working on a lower 3rd  for cameras  and  can share  that  code 
> if  others  are interested :
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Dan
>
>
> On 2/14/2019 5:21 PM, Peter Dähn wrote:
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> almost everything is done via custom.css. And before start of OM we add
>> the icons to "red5/webapps/openmeetings/css/images" and change the
>> cliparts in "red5/webapps/openmeetings/public/cliparts". We also change
>> the translation files in
>> "red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/org/apache/openmeetings/web/app/"
>> for keys 1488 and 1489 and add  some default string ("---") to surly
>> remove just this ones (in any room language).
>>
>> A bit ago I already asked (need a bit to find it in the comments for
>> that issue https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769):
>>
>> ...
>> I have another idea what to do with that custom css files... Those files
>> could also be shared by the community (just like the "call for logo").
>> It would be good to have some best practise examples, a few templates
>> ("green red or yellow"...) and also some "so far can it be treaten"
>> examples (my room looks like younameit) ... screenshots, filedownloads,
>> comments... maybe a good way to involve a bigger part of the community
>> ...
>>
>> Maybe it is time for that somewhere at the project page.
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>> Am 14.02.19 um 10:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>> Hello Raphael,
>>>
>>> did you create custom jqueryui theme to achieve "we also tried to
>>> remove most of the color complexity"
>>> Or manually customize styles?
>>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 15:40, Raphael Fetzer  wrote:
 Hi Ed,

 thanks for your interest. :-) Not only did we replace the icons, but we
 also tried to remove most of the color complexity to bring OM visually
 closer to our Learning Management System through which it is accessed.
 So there are a lot more changes under the hood as one might expect.

 I don't see a fundamental problem in making our changes accessible to
 the community, and I would love to do that. The only obstacle to
 overcome would be that we would have to review the icon set and replace
 some icons. We used a license for Font-Awesome Pro that is not
 transferable. Most of the icons, however, can be used under the Creative
 Commons BY, so if you do proper attribution this should be fine.

 Regards

 Raphael

> Hi Ed,
>
> Raphael will answer this shortly. He hasn't read this list till now.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 13.02.19 um 15:43 schrieb BBS Technik:
>> Hello,
>>
>> in a demo video on Jira Raphael Fetzer used OM with a modern icon set.
>> Where can I find this icons and what needs to be changed in om to use
>> them.
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Ed
>>

Re: Modern icon set in OM

[Daniel Baker]

Hi Peter,  your  styling  is very  nicely  done. Please  share the  
code  if you  don't  mind.



I am working on a lower 3rd  for cameras  and  can share  that code  if  
others  are interested :



Thanks,


Dan


On 2/14/2019 5:21 PM, Peter Dähn wrote:

Hi Maxim,

almost everything is done via custom.css. And before start of OM we add
the icons to "red5/webapps/openmeetings/css/images" and change the
cliparts in "red5/webapps/openmeetings/public/cliparts". We also change
the translation files in
"red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/org/apache/openmeetings/web/app/"
for keys 1488 and 1489 and add  some default string ("---") to surly
remove just this ones (in any room language).

A bit ago I already asked (need a bit to find it in the comments for
that issue https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769):

...
I have another idea what to do with that custom css files... Those files
could also be shared by the community (just like the "call for logo").
It would be good to have some best practise examples, a few templates
("green red or yellow"...) and also some "so far can it be treaten"
examples (my room looks like younameit) ... screenshots, filedownloads,
comments... maybe a good way to involve a bigger part of the community
...

Maybe it is time for that somewhere at the project page.

Greetings Peter

Am 14.02.19 um 10:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:

Hello Raphael,

did you create custom jqueryui theme to achieve "we also tried to
remove most of the color complexity"
Or manually customize styles?

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 15:40, Raphael Fetzer  wrote:

Hi Ed,

thanks for your interest. :-) Not only did we replace the icons, but we
also tried to remove most of the color complexity to bring OM visually
closer to our Learning Management System through which it is accessed.
So there are a lot more changes under the hood as one might expect.

I don't see a fundamental problem in making our changes accessible to
the community, and I would love to do that. The only obstacle to
overcome would be that we would have to review the icon set and replace
some icons. We used a license for Font-Awesome Pro that is not
transferable. Most of the icons, however, can be used under the Creative
Commons BY, so if you do proper attribution this should be fine.

Regards

Raphael


Hi Ed,

Raphael will answer this shortly. He hasn't read this list till now.

Greetings Peter



Am 13.02.19 um 15:43 schrieb BBS Technik:

Hello,

in a demo video on Jira Raphael Fetzer used OM with a modern icon set.
Where can I find this icons and what needs to be changed in om to use
them.

Best Regards

Ed

Re: Modern icon set in OM

[Peter Dähn]

Hi Maxim,

might be, but cutom.css is one file and it will be backuped and restored
during om update. Maybe if we can not style something via custom.css.
But till now it works.

By the way, we use it to change the rooms. Probably there are some
effects to the dash, that we doesn't care about. This need to be checked.

Greetings Peter

Am 14.02.19 um 11:37 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> I believe you can simplify your custom.css, by creating jquery-ui theme first
> as described here:
> https://openmeetings.apache.org/themes-and-branding.html#_toc_editing_the_theme
>
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 17:21, Peter Dähn  wrote:
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> almost everything is done via custom.css. And before start of OM we add
>> the icons to "red5/webapps/openmeetings/css/images" and change the
>> cliparts in "red5/webapps/openmeetings/public/cliparts". We also change
>> the translation files in
>> "red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/org/apache/openmeetings/web/app/"
>> for keys 1488 and 1489 and add  some default string ("---") to surly
>> remove just this ones (in any room language).
>>
>> A bit ago I already asked (need a bit to find it in the comments for
>> that issue https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769):
>>
>> ...
>> I have another idea what to do with that custom css files... Those files
>> could also be shared by the community (just like the "call for logo").
>> It would be good to have some best practise examples, a few templates
>> ("green red or yellow"...) and also some "so far can it be treaten"
>> examples (my room looks like younameit) ... screenshots, filedownloads,
>> comments... maybe a good way to involve a bigger part of the community
>> ...
>>
>> Maybe it is time for that somewhere at the project page.
>>
>> Greetings Peter
>>
>> Am 14.02.19 um 10:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
>>> Hello Raphael,
>>>
>>> did you create custom jqueryui theme to achieve "we also tried to
>>> remove most of the color complexity"
>>> Or manually customize styles?
>>>
>>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 15:40, Raphael Fetzer  wrote:
 Hi Ed,

 thanks for your interest. :-) Not only did we replace the icons, but we
 also tried to remove most of the color complexity to bring OM visually
 closer to our Learning Management System through which it is accessed.
 So there are a lot more changes under the hood as one might expect.

 I don't see a fundamental problem in making our changes accessible to
 the community, and I would love to do that. The only obstacle to
 overcome would be that we would have to review the icon set and replace
 some icons. We used a license for Font-Awesome Pro that is not
 transferable. Most of the icons, however, can be used under the Creative
 Commons BY, so if you do proper attribution this should be fine.

 Regards

 Raphael

> Hi Ed,
>
> Raphael will answer this shortly. He hasn't read this list till now.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
>
>
> Am 13.02.19 um 15:43 schrieb BBS Technik:
>> Hello,
>>
>> in a demo video on Jira Raphael Fetzer used OM with a modern icon set.
>> Where can I find this icons and what needs to be changed in om to use
>> them.
>>
>> Best Regards
>>
>> Ed
>>>
>>
>

Re: Modern icon set in OM

[Maxim Solodovnik]

I believe you can simplify your custom.css, by creating jquery-ui theme first
as described here:
https://openmeetings.apache.org/themes-and-branding.html#_toc_editing_the_theme

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 17:21, Peter Dähn  wrote:
>
> Hi Maxim,
>
> almost everything is done via custom.css. And before start of OM we add
> the icons to "red5/webapps/openmeetings/css/images" and change the
> cliparts in "red5/webapps/openmeetings/public/cliparts". We also change
> the translation files in
> "red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/org/apache/openmeetings/web/app/"
> for keys 1488 and 1489 and add  some default string ("---") to surly
> remove just this ones (in any room language).
>
> A bit ago I already asked (need a bit to find it in the comments for
> that issue https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769):
>
> ...
> I have another idea what to do with that custom css files... Those files
> could also be shared by the community (just like the "call for logo").
> It would be good to have some best practise examples, a few templates
> ("green red or yellow"...) and also some "so far can it be treaten"
> examples (my room looks like younameit) ... screenshots, filedownloads,
> comments... maybe a good way to involve a bigger part of the community
> ...
>
> Maybe it is time for that somewhere at the project page.
>
> Greetings Peter
>
> Am 14.02.19 um 10:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > Hello Raphael,
> >
> > did you create custom jqueryui theme to achieve "we also tried to
> > remove most of the color complexity"
> > Or manually customize styles?
> >
> > On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 15:40, Raphael Fetzer  wrote:
> >> Hi Ed,
> >>
> >> thanks for your interest. :-) Not only did we replace the icons, but we
> >> also tried to remove most of the color complexity to bring OM visually
> >> closer to our Learning Management System through which it is accessed.
> >> So there are a lot more changes under the hood as one might expect.
> >>
> >> I don't see a fundamental problem in making our changes accessible to
> >> the community, and I would love to do that. The only obstacle to
> >> overcome would be that we would have to review the icon set and replace
> >> some icons. We used a license for Font-Awesome Pro that is not
> >> transferable. Most of the icons, however, can be used under the Creative
> >> Commons BY, so if you do proper attribution this should be fine.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Raphael
> >>
> >>> Hi Ed,
> >>>
> >>> Raphael will answer this shortly. He hasn't read this list till now.
> >>>
> >>> Greetings Peter
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am 13.02.19 um 15:43 schrieb BBS Technik:
>  Hello,
> 
>  in a demo video on Jira Raphael Fetzer used OM with a modern icon set.
>  Where can I find this icons and what needs to be changed in om to use
>  them.
> 
>  Best Regards
> 
>  Ed
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: Modern icon set in OM

[Maxim Solodovnik]

+1 to create Themes page
It can be created in our Confluence [1]

Maybe someone will volunteer for this task?

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OPENMEETINGS/Index

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 17:37, Maxim Solodovnik  wrote:
>
> I believe you can simplify your custom.css, by creating jquery-ui theme first
> as described here:
> https://openmeetings.apache.org/themes-and-branding.html#_toc_editing_the_theme
>
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 17:21, Peter Dähn  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Maxim,
> >
> > almost everything is done via custom.css. And before start of OM we add
> > the icons to "red5/webapps/openmeetings/css/images" and change the
> > cliparts in "red5/webapps/openmeetings/public/cliparts". We also change
> > the translation files in
> > "red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/org/apache/openmeetings/web/app/"
> > for keys 1488 and 1489 and add  some default string ("---") to surly
> > remove just this ones (in any room language).
> >
> > A bit ago I already asked (need a bit to find it in the comments for
> > that issue https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769):
> >
> > ...
> > I have another idea what to do with that custom css files... Those files
> > could also be shared by the community (just like the "call for logo").
> > It would be good to have some best practise examples, a few templates
> > ("green red or yellow"...) and also some "so far can it be treaten"
> > examples (my room looks like younameit) ... screenshots, filedownloads,
> > comments... maybe a good way to involve a bigger part of the community
> > ...
> >
> > Maybe it is time for that somewhere at the project page.
> >
> > Greetings Peter
> >
> > Am 14.02.19 um 10:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> > > Hello Raphael,
> > >
> > > did you create custom jqueryui theme to achieve "we also tried to
> > > remove most of the color complexity"
> > > Or manually customize styles?
> > >
> > > On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 15:40, Raphael Fetzer  wrote:
> > >> Hi Ed,
> > >>
> > >> thanks for your interest. :-) Not only did we replace the icons, but we
> > >> also tried to remove most of the color complexity to bring OM visually
> > >> closer to our Learning Management System through which it is accessed.
> > >> So there are a lot more changes under the hood as one might expect.
> > >>
> > >> I don't see a fundamental problem in making our changes accessible to
> > >> the community, and I would love to do that. The only obstacle to
> > >> overcome would be that we would have to review the icon set and replace
> > >> some icons. We used a license for Font-Awesome Pro that is not
> > >> transferable. Most of the icons, however, can be used under the Creative
> > >> Commons BY, so if you do proper attribution this should be fine.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Raphael
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Ed,
> > >>>
> > >>> Raphael will answer this shortly. He hasn't read this list till now.
> > >>>
> > >>> Greetings Peter
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Am 13.02.19 um 15:43 schrieb BBS Technik:
> >  Hello,
> > 
> >  in a demo video on Jira Raphael Fetzer used OM with a modern icon set.
> >  Where can I find this icons and what needs to be changed in om to use
> >  them.
> > 
> >  Best Regards
> > 
> >  Ed
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> WBR
> Maxim aka solomax



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Re: Modern icon set in OM

[Peter Dähn]

Hi Maxim,

almost everything is done via custom.css. And before start of OM we add
the icons to "red5/webapps/openmeetings/css/images" and change the
cliparts in "red5/webapps/openmeetings/public/cliparts". We also change
the translation files in
"red5/webapps/openmeetings/WEB-INF/classes/org/apache/openmeetings/web/app/"
for keys 1488 and 1489 and add  some default string ("---") to surly
remove just this ones (in any room language).

A bit ago I already asked (need a bit to find it in the comments for
that issue https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1769):

...
I have another idea what to do with that custom css files... Those files
could also be shared by the community (just like the "call for logo").
It would be good to have some best practise examples, a few templates
("green red or yellow"...) and also some "so far can it be treaten"
examples (my room looks like younameit) ... screenshots, filedownloads,
comments... maybe a good way to involve a bigger part of the community
...

Maybe it is time for that somewhere at the project page.

Greetings Peter

Am 14.02.19 um 10:28 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
> Hello Raphael,
>
> did you create custom jqueryui theme to achieve "we also tried to
> remove most of the color complexity"
> Or manually customize styles?
>
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 15:40, Raphael Fetzer  wrote:
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> thanks for your interest. :-) Not only did we replace the icons, but we
>> also tried to remove most of the color complexity to bring OM visually
>> closer to our Learning Management System through which it is accessed.
>> So there are a lot more changes under the hood as one might expect.
>>
>> I don't see a fundamental problem in making our changes accessible to
>> the community, and I would love to do that. The only obstacle to
>> overcome would be that we would have to review the icon set and replace
>> some icons. We used a license for Font-Awesome Pro that is not
>> transferable. Most of the icons, however, can be used under the Creative
>> Commons BY, so if you do proper attribution this should be fine.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Raphael
>>
>>> Hi Ed,
>>>
>>> Raphael will answer this shortly. He hasn't read this list till now.
>>>
>>> Greetings Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 13.02.19 um 15:43 schrieb BBS Technik:
 Hello,

 in a demo video on Jira Raphael Fetzer used OM with a modern icon set.
 Where can I find this icons and what needs to be changed in om to use
 them.

 Best Regards

 Ed
>
>

Re: Modern icon set in OM

[Maxim Solodovnik]

Hello Raphael,

did you create custom jqueryui theme to achieve "we also tried to
remove most of the color complexity"
Or manually customize styles?

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 15:40, Raphael Fetzer  wrote:
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> thanks for your interest. :-) Not only did we replace the icons, but we
> also tried to remove most of the color complexity to bring OM visually
> closer to our Learning Management System through which it is accessed.
> So there are a lot more changes under the hood as one might expect.
>
> I don't see a fundamental problem in making our changes accessible to
> the community, and I would love to do that. The only obstacle to
> overcome would be that we would have to review the icon set and replace
> some icons. We used a license for Font-Awesome Pro that is not
> transferable. Most of the icons, however, can be used under the Creative
> Commons BY, so if you do proper attribution this should be fine.
>
> Regards
>
> Raphael
>
> > Hi Ed,
> >
> > Raphael will answer this shortly. He hasn't read this list till now.
> >
> > Greetings Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 13.02.19 um 15:43 schrieb BBS Technik:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> in a demo video on Jira Raphael Fetzer used OM with a modern icon set.
> >> Where can I find this icons and what needs to be changed in om to use
> >> them.
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >>
> >> Ed



-- 
WBR
Maxim aka solomax

Re: Modern icon set in OM

[Raphael Fetzer]

Hi Ed,

thanks for your interest. :-) Not only did we replace the icons, but we 
also tried to remove most of the color complexity to bring OM visually 
closer to our Learning Management System through which it is accessed. 
So there are a lot more changes under the hood as one might expect.


I don't see a fundamental problem in making our changes accessible to 
the community, and I would love to do that. The only obstacle to 
overcome would be that we would have to review the icon set and replace 
some icons. We used a license for Font-Awesome Pro that is not 
transferable. Most of the icons, however, can be used under the Creative 
Commons BY, so if you do proper attribution this should be fine.


Regards

Raphael


Hi Ed,

Raphael will answer this shortly. He hasn't read this list till now.

Greetings Peter



Am 13.02.19 um 15:43 schrieb BBS Technik:

Hello,
  
in a demo video on Jira Raphael Fetzer used OM with a modern icon set.

Where can I find this icons and what needs to be changed in om to use
them.
  
Best Regards
  
Ed

Re: Modern icon set in OM

[Peter Dähn]

Hi Ed,

Raphael will answer this shortly. He hasn't read this list till now.

Greetings Peter



Am 13.02.19 um 15:43 schrieb BBS Technik:
> Hello,
>  
> in a demo video on Jira Raphael Fetzer used OM with a modern icon set. 
> Where can I find this icons and what needs to be changed in om to use
> them.
>  
> Best Regards
>  
> Ed