Re: [OT] JSP Clutter

2005-08-08 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
Sorry, the point was not to compare .net/JSF/Tapestry against Struts,  
but to highlight that a bit fore thought into developing a good CSS  
at the start of the project would have reduced the amount of markup  
we have had to write in the last six months.  It certainly makes our  
life easier to maintain the code.


Cheers

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
www.marsh-bourdon.com
AIM: marshbourdon



On 8 Aug 2005, at 22:22, Michael Jouravlev wrote:


On 8/8/05, Christopher Marsh-Bourdon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Over the past
six months we have been migrating our front-ends from .net to Java
based technologies, and Struts in the main.  Now a new manager has
come on board and he wishes us to revisit the reasons why we choose
Struts.  Now I was the main instigator as I have been using Struts
for the past 3 years and I had previously been using an in-house MVC
(urrgh!).  I like MVCs and especially Struts, mainly because it fits
my mindset of seperation.  The main critisism (and the point of this
missive) is that the argument I keep on facing is:

"JSP/HTML/XHTML is a messy mark-up.  It is cumbersome to refactor and
a bugger to work out.  We could use Tapestry or JSF and forget about
HTML."



I would have thought that the main criticism would have been "Struts
is a simple controller framework and does not have cool drop-in web
controls or built-in DAO components, or out-of-the-box viewstate
management, or simple view/business component integration, etc. Struts
is a strange choice of yours, considering that you moved from asp.net.



I have still to convince this new manager that
Struts is the way, but I've removed one of the major arguments to
going down the Tapestry/JSF route for now (not that they don't use
CSSes)!



At least this is the area where asp.net is suckier than Struts: many
asp.net controls have built-in font sizes or colors or table styles,
so they cannot be controlled by CSS. On the other hand, Struts does
not have the notion of web controls at all. You have to build all
pages yourself and manually wire them to action form properties or to
other beans' properties.

Struts offers more freedom; maybe too much than an average web
developer would wish for.

Michael.

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Re: [OT] JSP Clutter

2005-08-08 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
No, I'm not saying that JSF or Tapestry will be able to mind read,  
but I am under the impression (probably very wrong by the way this is  
going) that they are able to generate content based on XML or Java  
markup.  As I say I haven't had the time to look further into JSF/ 
Tapestry bar a few articles and a demonstration.


Yours in ignorance!

Cheers

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
www.marsh-bourdon.com
AIM: marshbourdon



On 8 Aug 2005, at 22:14, Leon Rosenberg wrote:






-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Christopher Marsh-Bourdon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Montag, 8. August 2005 23:05
An: Struts Users Mailing List
Betreff: Re: [OT] JSP Clutter

The anti-Struts/MVC argument, and it isn't mine, is that
whereas Tapestry and JSF will generate the HTML/JSP, with
Struts it has to be written and maintained.  Now I haven't
spent that much time with either Tapestry or JSF, but from
what little I have read; it would appear that they can
generate the HTML/JSP it without the need for it to be
directly written (in HTML etc).  That seems to be the gist of it.



It's funny :-)
So you think you take Tapestry or Shale, and your site comes out by  
magic?
I am sorry, but even, if Graig himself would come to your office  
and snip
with his fingers, it wouldn't be enough to YOUR HTML of YOUR SITE  
appear by

magic.

Whichever framework you choose, none of them will know, that your  
site is in
red on black background with blue drop down lists in Verdana 8px.  
If you
find one, tell me, it would probably save me 30-50% of project  
time, and

make about 10.000 html producers world wide unemployed :-)

Regards
Leon




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Re: [OT] JSP Clutter

2005-08-08 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
I mean where you can specify how a tag is rendered (within your  
browser) totally using CSS rules, rather than specifying messy and  
deprecated tags such as .


I also exclude using inline CSS styles such as   when it could declared as  and  
let a CSS define it's behavior.  Inline CSS doesn't reduce the  
clutter, it generally adds to it, especially if you want more than  
one tag to exhibit the same behavior.


Cheers

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
www.marsh-bourdon.com
AIM: marshbourdon



On 8 Aug 2005, at 22:06, Johnson, Kaerstin wrote:



I am not understanding what you mean by this (encompassing* CSS), or
perhaps I am not familiar with some technique, can you elaborate or
provide an example? I am intrigued..




* By "encompassing', I mean no formatting is used directly in the JSP


where >it can be deferred to a style.



-Original Message-
From: Christopher Marsh-Bourdon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 4:41 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] JSP Clutter

Apologies if this it _too_ off-topic, but I think it might be worth
mentioning.  In the same vein as my "web framework is better than
yours" we, in the office,  have been having a fairly heated
discussion about which way we go technology wise next.  Over the past
six months we have been migrating our front-ends from .net to Java
based technologies, and Struts in the main.  Now a new manager has
come on board and he wishes us to revisit the reasons why we choose
Struts.  Now I was the main instigator as I have been using Struts
for the past 3 years and I had previously been using an in-house MVC
(urrgh!).  I like MVCs and especially Struts, mainly because it fits
my mindset of seperation.  The main critisism (and the point of this
missive) is that the argument I keep on facing is:

"JSP/HTML/XHTML is a messy mark-up.  It is cumbersome to refactor and
a bugger to work out.  We could use Tapestry or JSF and forget about
HTML."

So, I've gone back and revisited our JSPs to see if this criticism is
correct; and to be honest it is.  I am a fairly careful coder and I
adhere to the XHTML standards as diligently as possible, but it still
looks pretty confusing.  Now the main issue is that we really (a team
of three) never had the time to get the basics right prior to
launching into the migration from .net to Struts. By the basics, I
mean working out an encompassing* CSS.  So, I've gone back and re-
factored the JSP to use an encompassing* CSS document, and lo and
behold the code (JSP) is cleaner and so much better to work with.

Now maybe everyone but me and my team uses an encompassing* CSS
throughout their JSP as standard and never deviates from that path,
but if you don't; take a little while to research what it can do for
your development.  I have still to convince this new manager that
Struts is the way, but I've removed one of the major arguments to
going down the Tapestry/JSF route for now (not that they don't use
CSSes)!

* By "encompassing', I mean no formatting is used directly in the JSP
where it can be deferred to a style.

Cheers


Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
www.marsh-bourdon.com
AIM: marshbourdon


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Re: [OT] JSP Clutter

2005-08-08 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
The anti-Struts/MVC argument, and it isn't mine, is that whereas  
Tapestry and JSF will generate the HTML/JSP, with Struts it has to be  
written and maintained.  Now I haven't spent that much time with  
either Tapestry or JSF, but from what little I have read; it would  
appear that they can generate the HTML/JSP it without the need for it  
to be directly written (in HTML etc).  That seems to be the gist of it.


Cheers

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
www.marsh-bourdon.com
AIM: marshbourdon



On 8 Aug 2005, at 21:58, Leon Rosenberg wrote:







"JSP/HTML/XHTML is a messy mark-up.  It is cumbersome to
refactor and a bugger to work out.  We could use Tapestry or
JSF and forget about HTML."



That's right, but as long as you deliver html to the customer, you  
have to

deal with it, regardless of your technology.
At the end of the day, someone has to produce the html. It can be a  
view
component as in JSF, a tile as in Struts, or whatever, but it has  
to be

done, and the HTML code is ABSOLUTELY IDENTICAL in all cases :-)
So sorry, but this is no argument pro or contra struts.




So, I've gone back and revisited our JSPs to see if this
criticism is correct; and to be honest it is.  I am a fairly
careful coder and I adhere to the XHTML standards as
diligently as possible, but it still looks pretty confusing.
Now the main issue is that we really (a team of three) never
had the time to get the basics right prior to launching into
the migration from .net to Struts. By the basics, I mean
working out an encompassing* CSS.



Good decision :-)



So, I've gone back and re-
factored the JSP to use an encompassing* CSS document, and lo
and behold the code (JSP) is cleaner and so much better to work with.

Now maybe everyone but me and my team uses an encompassing*
CSS throughout their JSP as standard and never deviates from
that path, but if you don't; take a little while to research
what it can do for your development.  I have still to
convince this new manager that Struts is the way, but I've
removed one of the major arguments to going down the
Tapestry/JSF route for now (not that they don't use CSSes)!

* By "encompassing', I mean no formatting is used directly in
the JSP where it can be deferred to a style.




Again, what exactly is the difference in framework you use, as long  
as the

resulting HTML page looks the same?

Don't misunderstand me, I congratulate you to better code and  
encourage you
to use css, but I don't see how the usage of css can influence a  
pro- or

contra-struts solution?

Regards
Leon



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[OT] JSP Clutter

2005-08-08 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
Apologies if this it _too_ off-topic, but I think it might be worth  
mentioning.  In the same vein as my "web framework is better than  
yours" we, in the office,  have been having a fairly heated  
discussion about which way we go technology wise next.  Over the past  
six months we have been migrating our front-ends from .net to Java  
based technologies, and Struts in the main.  Now a new manager has  
come on board and he wishes us to revisit the reasons why we choose  
Struts.  Now I was the main instigator as I have been using Struts  
for the past 3 years and I had previously been using an in-house MVC  
(urrgh!).  I like MVCs and especially Struts, mainly because it fits  
my mindset of seperation.  The main critisism (and the point of this  
missive) is that the argument I keep on facing is:


"JSP/HTML/XHTML is a messy mark-up.  It is cumbersome to refactor and  
a bugger to work out.  We could use Tapestry or JSF and forget about  
HTML."


So, I've gone back and revisited our JSPs to see if this criticism is  
correct; and to be honest it is.  I am a fairly careful coder and I  
adhere to the XHTML standards as diligently as possible, but it still  
looks pretty confusing.  Now the main issue is that we really (a team  
of three) never had the time to get the basics right prior to  
launching into the migration from .net to Struts. By the basics, I  
mean working out an encompassing* CSS.  So, I've gone back and re- 
factored the JSP to use an encompassing* CSS document, and lo and  
behold the code (JSP) is cleaner and so much better to work with.


Now maybe everyone but me and my team uses an encompassing* CSS  
throughout their JSP as standard and never deviates from that path,  
but if you don't; take a little while to research what it can do for  
your development.  I have still to convince this new manager that  
Struts is the way, but I've removed one of the major arguments to  
going down the Tapestry/JSF route for now (not that they don't use  
CSSes)!


* By "encompassing', I mean no formatting is used directly in the JSP  
where it can be deferred to a style.


Cheers


Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
www.marsh-bourdon.com
AIM: marshbourdon

[OT] Sub Project - Table Renderer

2005-08-01 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
I would be interested in getting a feel for those developers who  
would be interested in a dynamic table renderer that allows for  
automatic sorting across a single or multiple columns and the ability  
to redisplay only the table using Frank Zametti's AjaxTags (it can do  
it as a whole page to, but that is just wasteful!).  I've been  
evolving one over several years and it would be but a days work to  
get it generic enough to make available to others.


I'm sure there are other solutions out there; there definitely is one  
by Bill Siggelkow in his 'Jakarta Struts Cookbook'.  This solution is  
a more encompassing, removing the need to have to hard code the  
ordering in your action, it can be specified via XML or just left to  
the renderer to work it out based on the underlying Class of the bean  
(assuming there is only one) within the collection.


Anyways, can I just ask any of those who are interested to give me a  
yay (or nay) so I get a gist as to whether I am wasting my time or not?


Cheers

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
www.marsh-bourdon.com
AIM: marshbourdon




Re: how to use tiles

2005-07-30 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon

d d

This depends on which machine you only want the "bit" to be  
refreshed.  With Tiles, it will only refresh the bit that needs  
refreshing on the server, but the whole page will be refreshed on the  
client regardless.  I think if you wanted to achieve what you are  
asking, frames really is the only (and not very nice, IMHO)  
solution.  However, there is AJAX (have a look at Frank Zammetti's  
implementation, AJAX Struts, or Struts AJAX - it is on the Struts  
WIKI).  AJAX can refresh/build sections on the screen without the  
entire page being refreshed, and Frank's implementation works very  
nicely.


Cheers

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
www.marsh-bourdon.com
AIM: marshbourdon



On 30 Jul 2005, at 10:12, d d wrote:

i am building an application where i have to refresh a perticular  
part of page rather than whole page..I used the concept of IFRAMES  
but it takes hell lot of time to load and refresh..I guess struts  
tiles may be useful here.
Any idea if we can refresh only a part of full tile keep other  
parts untouched??







Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!

2005-07-27 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon

http://www.prokmu.com/

After looking at this, my servers are going on eBay!  Sometimes it  
doesn't pay to own your own kit.


Cheers

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
www.marsh-bourdon.com
AIM: marshbourdon


On 27 Jul 2005, at 20:08, Leon Rosenberg wrote:



I charge 15-20 euro / month for an own tomcat, full ssh/scp access,  
apache

in front, mysql dbs, mail server and so on.
30 euro for a full service package including backups and appl. level
support.

(from 50 euro on you can rent a complete machine at different  
providers in

germany)

Just for info :-)

Leon

P.S. 1 euro is 1.2 USD



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: John Henry Xu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2005 20:18
An: Struts Users Mailing List
Betreff: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!

+1 on Yan Hu, Tamas and Pedro

If one open a web hosting business, what should J2EE hosting
(including EJB, struts, JSP, servlets, MySQL, PostgreSQL, web
services on JBoss) charge per month that you are willing to
pay? What is the market price
for such hosting now?   It seems there is a market there I
can explore.

Regards,

John H. Xu

http://www.usanalyst.com
http://www.GetusJobs.com (The largest free job portal in
North America)

  - Original Message -
  From: "Pedro Salgado"
  To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
  Subject: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!
  Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:47:20 +0200




+1 for that answer.

Pedro Salgado

On 27/07/2005 08:15, "Tamas Szabo" wrote:



I wouldn't bet on PHP being more popular than Java webapps.

I think that there will be more smaller Java webapps if there


  were much


support for them at web hosting companies.
I know several cases when Java webapp programmers, had


to use PHP
  to


make some smaller webapps for someone because most web hosting


  companies


offer PHP support but they have no
Java webcontainers installed.

Tamas



Yan Hu wrote:



Xu:
One of the reasons why you see a lot of PHP apps is that there


  are always a


lot more small apps
than large scale ones. I can not imagin you program a large


  scale site using


PHP. If you are an OO
guy, I could hardly imagin you even would like PHP(mixing all


  server side


code with html code).
There are a lot of java intranet applications you will never be


  able to


access. PHP has its niche
in the small app domain. It is fine. But it will never


be at the
  same level


as Java. I do not
understand why you think PHP is more popular than Java. Let me


  ask you one


simple question. Why
are there so many more java jobs than PHP jobs? Anyone


will tell
  you it is


because there is a lot
more demand for java. So you get the idea. With the advent of


  JSF, Java will


be even sexier. I
have long wished for something like asp.net code behind in C#.


  Now we have


JSF code behind in
Java. If asp.net can be a big success, why can't JSF?







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Re: How to hide URL in Adress bar?

2005-07-13 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
Why would you have to route every action through a single servlet/ 
action?


The others are nice to have for a web application (who wants a web  
app cached on indexable?), but if you code web sites you might be right.


Cheers

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
www.marsh-bourdon.com
AIM: marshbourdon


On 13 Jul 2005, at 16:16, Leon Rosenberg wrote:


sorry, i've hit the send button too quickly...

why not using POST:

your page will not be found (or indexed) by any search engine
you have to recode all (ALL!) links in your page with javascript to
submit forms
you will completely switch of browser cashes (whether you want it or
not)
back button will be disabled
you will have to route every action through a single servlet/action

is it enough? :-)

regards
Leon

p.s. mod_rewrite is a apache module which allows you to rewrite urls
with reg expressions.

On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 17:05 +0200, Gaet wrote:


Ok,

Thanks for all of your QUICK answers!
I think that usinf Frameset is not a good solution has it is not  
recommended

from W3C
Using POST seems to be a good solution if it worksand it will  
only hide

the parameters isn't it?

Micheal, what is mod_rewrite?

Thanks to all of you!


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From: "Gaet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mailing List Struts" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 2:48 PM
Subject: How to hide URL in Adress bar?


Hi evrybody,

I would like to hide the struts URL in the Adress bar of the client
browser
is there a way do always have www.mysite.com in the adress bar  
instead of

www.mysite.com/myStrutsAction.do?param1=param...??

Thanks for your help!


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Re: Invalid dates / numbers etc on forms

2005-07-13 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
Have you never developed using Dynamic Action Forms? With the vanilla  
Action Forms you may be right, but with Dynamic ones, I have found  
that Validator really cuts down the work.


Cheers

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
www.marsh-bourdon.com
AIM: marshbourdon


On 13 Jul 2005, at 14:54, Larry Meadors wrote:


No offense (and not to sound like Mark Galbreath), but as a long time
struts user, I have never found validator to save time or code...not
even once.

Larry


On 7/13/05, Martin Gainty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The Struts-validator will certainly be able to handle date- 
validation for

you
there is an excellent tutorial located at
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/jdev/howtos/10g/ 
strutsvalidator/struts_validator_howto.html#setup

1)Add validator to your struts-config.xml
2)copy validator-rules.xml into WEB-INF/validator folder
3)copy predefined validator error messages from validator- 
rules.xml into
your resources file (generally called  
ApplicationResources.properties)
4)Setup form beans to use the correct class..Notice the election  
between

static Form Beans and Dynamic Form Beans
to quote
when several forms reuse the same validation rules then use  
ValidatorForm
the Action which is applicable in your case if you are using  
ActionMappings
are applicable when differing rulesets apply to FormBean depending  
on which

Action is consuming the FormBean then use
ValidatorActionForm/DynaValidatorActionForm
5)setup validation rules in /WEB-INF/validator/validations.xml
there is a good primer available at
http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/dev_validator.html

HTH,
Martin-
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From: "Lance Semmens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: Invalid dates / numbers etc on forms


Is there a standard way of handling invalid user input in date /  
number

fields etc. I can forsee 2 possible solutions.
1. Declare date properties on your form as java.lang.Strings and
validate / parse them explicitely.
2. Declare date properties as java.util.Dates, have struts parse  
dates,
check for null form properties and use request.getParameter() to  
see if

an invalid date was entered.

I prefer option 2. Are there any libraries around to do this  
generically

or another way that I haven't thought of? (NB i'm a newbie).

Thanks,
Lance.

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Re: Validation's disappearing messages

2005-04-20 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
Will do, I'm back at home now, so I'll email them out tomorrow morning.
Tonight I am going to to attempt the whole thing from scratch with a new
project and 1.2, see if that gives me the answer.

Cheers

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
www.marsh-bourdon.com

> From: "Fogleson, Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 13:49:43 -0400
> To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> Subject: RE: Validation's disappearing messages
> 
> Christopher,
> 
> It might help if you include portions of the offending code,
> struts-config and such. I have seen this before but usually it is the
> result of a bad config or such.
> 
> Al
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Marsh-Bourdon, Christopher
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:22 AM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: Validation's disappearing messages
> 
> Paul
> 
> I am not redirecting.  I am wondering whether it is the version of
> Struts I
> am on.  I think tomorrow I will upgrade to 1.2.  However, if anyone has
> any
> suggestions (polite), please let me know?
> 
> Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
> www.marsh-bourdon.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Benedict, Paul C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 20 April 2005 16:56
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: RE: Validation's disappearing messages
> 
> 
> Chris,
> 
> At first, make sure you are not redirecting. Error messages are request
> based, and redirection equals two requests and thus the messages are not
> persisted.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Marsh-Bourdon, Christopher
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 11:52 AM
> To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
> Subject: Validation's disappearing messages
> 
> 
> Afternoon all
> 
> Under Struts 1.1 (previously I have been using 1.0), I have validation
> on a
> form (it extends ValidatorActionForm) but after validation has failed
> and I
> have (within the validate method) logged the number of errors, I can not
> for
> the life of me get them to show within the JSP.  I have followed the
> examples in both the Struts Cookbook and the Struts site, but still to
> no
> avail. I raise errors on this form using both the Validation.xml and
> manually, and I ensure that I return the errors object.
> 
> I have also taken a dump of both the Request and Session for the user,
> and I
> find nothing that has a class of ActionErrors or ActionMessages.
> 
> Has anyone had this problem and can help?  I assume I doing something
> really
> silly that is ballsing this up.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
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Re: How to get the ActionForward for the _previous_ page

2004-07-27 Thread Christopher . Marsh-Bourdon
Stefan

I am not aware of a way of recording the last JSP/(Action or Servlet) a 
user was at within Struts, so for my applications I do it myself and save 
the String to a Session object (or store it within another object that is 
stored in the session scope).  I do it seperately for the JSP and (Action 
or Servlet) urls, as depending on what I am doing, depends on which one I 
go back to.

Each action (or servlet) that is called updates the value of the two 
session properties, thus a successive servlet can reference them.

There may of course be a more refined way to do this, but at least this is 
relatively simple.

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Hello,

I created a small application using Struts and the internationalization 
and provided images (with the flags in the appropriate language) that 
allow the user to change the language. The changing of the language is 
done using a normal Action class. My problem is that after changing the 
language (resetting the session attribute) I do not know where to 
forward to. I want to forward to the last page independently on which 
page the language was selected. The problem with Struts is that i do not 
get any information about the last page that the user was on, so I am 
not able to forward to the last page. Is this correct or is there any 
workaround to do this?

If this is not possible, then it would be nice to have that in a further 
release of Struts because I think that would be very helpful to create 
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Re: HSQLDV / STRUTS

2004-07-12 Thread Christopher . Marsh-Bourdon
Its always the obvious!





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The correct syntax is "SELECT * FROM 

At 05:23 AM 7/12/2004, you wrote:
>Andre
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Perhaps
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Re: HSQLDV / STRUTS

2004-07-12 Thread Christopher . Marsh-Bourdon
Andre

What type of commit are you using under JDBC, automatic or manual? Perhaps 
you should reply with the offending code so we can see what is happeneing. 
 Also, what exception handling are you using around the INSERT code, as 
you may be handling an exception/error but not doing anything with it.

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I'm using HSQLDB I have a Java Action Class that performs an INSERT
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Re: OT:SOLUTION:Re: Why Ajp13Connector.class is not found in tomcat-jk.jar inTomca 5.x but in Tomca 4.x

2004-07-10 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
This guy constantly asks questions in the same manner, isn't there a way to
prevent repeat offenders posting?

Christopher

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>>> i'm using Tomcat 5.0.19 server.
>>> I need to connect Ajp13Connector through Tomcat 5.0.19
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>>> I configured in Tomcat.
>>> But while i'm running ,NoClassDefFoundException is
>>> getting.i.e.,Ajp13Connector.class is not available in "tomcat-jk.jar"
>>> But the class is available in Tomcat 4.x in the same jar
>>> file(tomcat-jk.jar).
>>> Why didn't I find that file in Tomcat 5.x
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Re: Book recommendations

2004-07-06 Thread Christopher . Marsh-Bourdon
Jakarta Struts, Chuck Cavaness, O'Reilly





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I am looking for a good Struts book. Does anyone have any recommendations?

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Re: big validation.xml

2004-07-01 Thread Christopher . Marsh-Bourdon
James

Thank you for that, just what we needed.

Thanks

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon





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I would not recommend using Modules unless you have a specific need for
them.  And from what you both describe, you don't need Modules.

You are better off splitting up the validation.xml and struts-config.xml
into smaller, more managable peices.  By activity or use case.

(from web.xml)
...
...
  
action
org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet

  config
  
/WEB-INF/classes/elms/resource/struts-config.xml,
/WEB-INF/classes/elms/resource/struts-config-common.xml,
/WEB-INF/classes/elms/resource/struts-config-manageproducts.xml,
/WEB-INF/classes/elms/resource/struts-config-payment.xml,
/WEB-INF/classes/elms/resource/struts-config-makeloan.xml,
/WEB-INF/classes/elms/resource/struts-config-disbursement.xml,
/WEB-INF/classes/elms/resource/struts-config-workcollections.xml,
/WEB-INF/classes/elms/resource/struts-config-branchTab.xml,
/WEB-INF/classes/elms/resource/struts-config-corporateTab.xml
  


  debug
...
...



(from struts-config.xml)
...
...
   
 
   
...
...


Using this simple technique we have virtually eliminated contention of
files.
Be careful with this though, if you define duplicate action-mapping (by
path) or form-beans (by name), the last one loaded silently wins.



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> Hi,
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> I would suggest you take a close look to Struts Modules. Isolating
> specific parts of your application into modules has the following
> advantages:
>
> - reduces size of validation.xml and struts-config.xml files, as each
> module as its own set of files; althrough validation and resources can
> be shared between modules.
>
> - better separation of team work: each team handles its own set of XML,
> resources, HTML/JSP/.. files, and therefore reduces dramatically
> CVS/SVN/.. conflicts! Working in a team on a huge monolithic
> configuration file is a nightmare!
>
> - better overview of your global application and a lot more 
maintainable.
>
> Of course, splitting your application into modules will also need some
> "standard rules" between them, but that's not of Struts' responsability,
> rather a development management issue. And there are not specific rules
> for splitting applications into modules: it's more based on logic and
> common sense than anything else.
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> some useful links:
> - http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/userGuide/configuration.html
> - he "Struts Survival Guide" on www.objectsource.com has a lot of tips
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> >Struts.  This contains about 300 separate input/view forms (a lot will 
be
> >reduced down due to re-usability of Struts over our own framework).  As
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> >line.
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> >For such a big validation.xml, will there be effect in performance
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Re: big validation.xml

2004-07-01 Thread Christopher . Marsh-Bourdon
I'm in the same boat, up until now we've developed small Struts 
applications (about 20 different sets of input/view forms).  Now we are 
going to migrate an application which we wrote in our own framework to 
Struts.  This contains about 300 separate input/view forms (a lot will be 
reduced down due to re-usability of Struts over our own framework).  As 
Dion asks, what is the best practice for projects of this size?

Cheers

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Hi all,

Struts-validator, or I guess it has become common-validator (?) is very 
cool,
a lot of thanks for making life easier.
Because there are lots of entities in application that I'm developing, 
more than 80,
the validation.xml file will be so big, roughly more than two thousands 
line.

For such a big validation.xml, will there be effect in performance
in the JSP that utilize the validation.xml?
Are there any tips/best practices for such situation?

Thanks a lot in advance for any comments/suggestions.


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Re: how do i get the reference of ServletContext in Action Class

2004-06-23 Thread Christopher . Marsh-Bourdon
servlet.getServletContext().

The 'servlet' is part of the super class 'Action' that contains an object 
'servlet' of the type 'ActionServlet'.  It's from this object the method 
'getServletContext()' comes from.

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hello guys,
 
  can any one tell me that how do i get the reference of ServletContext in 
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Re: Setting html:hidden property using JSTL

2004-06-23 Thread Christopher . Marsh-Bourdon
James

Do you include the HTML tag library within the jsp page?  It needs to go 
at the top and look like this:

<%@ taglib uri="/WEB-INF/struts-html.tld" prefix="html" %>

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Hi All,

I just started experimenting with jstl and i'd like to
set a hidden field on MyActionForm using a value 
(contentId) available as an attribute on the request.
Basically, i'd like to do something like this:

"/>
 
Which does not work. Should i be using EL syntax
instead? And what would the correct syntax be?

I did check that  returns
a valid value so my confusion is just passing it as a
value to the html:hidden property.

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Re: Setting html:hidden property using JSTL

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I've also noticed you are doubling up on double quotes, try this:



or



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I just started experimenting with jstl and i'd like to
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Basically, i'd like to do something like this:

"/>
 
Which does not work. Should i be using EL syntax
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Re: tiles sidebar,header,footer

2004-06-23 Thread Christopher . Marsh-Bourdon
Jignesh

Apologies if you think I'm fobbing you off, but the Struts example 
explains what you need to know.  I fail to see the point of someone having 
to force feed you the information because you don't want read some 
documentation. 

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No I am talking for tiles only.
But rather then getting precise answer, I am getting reply to read 
tutorial.

-Jignesh

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Re: tiles sidebar,header,footer

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There is an example of this in the struts example code.  What you are 
asking to do is kind of the whole reason for using Tiles (or at least a 
fairly important one), so I can assume you really haven't looked at any of 
the user documentation/examples as of yet.  I'd suggest a visit to 
http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/ and reading through the documentation.

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Hi Christopher,
Thanks for immediate response
"If by this you mean the tiles for these areas do not change" - My purpose 
is same.

Please provide me guideline.

-Jignesh


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Re: tiles sidebar,header,footer

2004-06-23 Thread Christopher . Marsh-Bourdon
Jignesh

What do you mean by static and called back?

If by this you mean the tiles for these areas do not change, then yes, 
this is possible.  The "called back" has me puzzling though.

Cheers

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
Pyplia Limited





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Hi All,
We are using tiles. Is it possible to make header,footer static means all 
the time 
they will not be called back,when page is submmitted. Also sometimes 
sidebar also 
remains nonmovable only content gets changed.


-Jignesh



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Actions and Anchors

2004-06-22 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
Evening All

I have a sticky problem, and it goes something like this:

I have a JSP which will be returned by an Action.  On this JSP page there
are a fair few Anchors like: I¹m an Anchor.
Normally (well under Servlets) you can pass a parameter in the url like
this: http://www.pyplia.com/wibble.jsp#ImAnAnchor, and the browser will take
you to the point of the Anchor.  Has anyone managed to get this to work
under Struts Actions?

Cheers in advance

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
Pyplia Limited 
www.pyplia.com  WWW




[OT] Posting timings

2004-06-21 Thread Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
Can anyone tell me why my postings appear a lot later than when I send them?
All my other emails arrive within seconds/minutes when I post them to other
mailing lists/email accounts?

Cheers

Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
Pyplia Limited 
www.pyplia.com  WWW