Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
I feel your pain guys. I found a provider that made me wander why more of them don't do this. http://www.eapps.com you get a virtual machine running Linux for each domain and one of the most comprehensive control panels I have ever used. 20 bucks a month gives you a fair amount of features and space. My 2 cents Bryan LaPlante - Original Message - From: Frank W. Zammetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List user@struts.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list. While I agree they do this (it happened to me once), that is a risk you run in ANY shared hosting environment... an admin has to make a quick decision that will keep the other people sharing your box running, and many times the easiest solution (and arguably best) is to shut down the offending service, or app, or even domain, and then try and resolve it with the person who owns the supposed offender. They seem to be pretty good at least of informing you in a timely fashion that they had to shut X or Y down on you. At least, the one time it happened to me this was true. I have been with Lunarpages for I think close to 3 years now, something like that, and it's been a fantastic experience overall. I personally WOULD recommend them... good price for what you get, and they are quite responsive (in my experience) to support requests, and for the most part let you do what you want (yes, there are some not allowed items to be aware of as Wendy points out). But, I seriously doubt they are checking everyones' domains, they will only know if a problem arises, so if your careful I suspect you can skirt that rule just a bit :) Frank Wendy Smoak wrote: On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most promise: http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to anything that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a legitimate point, sometimes they just say you're using too many resources or affecting other customers on the server. And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and Spring: http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=articlearticleid=120 -- Wendy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
I'll include my plug here for a company that we partner with when infrastructure/hosting work is involved. http://www.apparatus.net/hosting/ They are based out of Indianapolis and have some great sysadmins on hand. They currently offer Tomcat 4.1.x, JDK 1.4.2_09 and MySQL 3.2.3 via fedora core 3. They will be upgrading to fedora core 4 soon. -Troy Troy J. Kelley E-gineering, LLC 10401 North Meridian Street | Suite 150 Indianapolis, IN | 46290 | 317.616.3974 www.e-gineering.com -Original Message- From: Bryan LaPlante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:15 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list. I feel your pain guys. I found a provider that made me wander why more of them don't do this. http://www.eapps.com you get a virtual machine running Linux for each domain and one of the most comprehensive control panels I have ever used. 20 bucks a month gives you a fair amount of features and space. My 2 cents Bryan LaPlante - Original Message - From: Frank W. Zammetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List user@struts.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list. While I agree they do this (it happened to me once), that is a risk you run in ANY shared hosting environment... an admin has to make a quick decision that will keep the other people sharing your box running, and many times the easiest solution (and arguably best) is to shut down the offending service, or app, or even domain, and then try and resolve it with the person who owns the supposed offender. They seem to be pretty good at least of informing you in a timely fashion that they had to shut X or Y down on you. At least, the one time it happened to me this was true. I have been with Lunarpages for I think close to 3 years now, something like that, and it's been a fantastic experience overall. I personally WOULD recommend them... good price for what you get, and they are quite responsive (in my experience) to support requests, and for the most part let you do what you want (yes, there are some not allowed items to be aware of as Wendy points out). But, I seriously doubt they are checking everyones' domains, they will only know if a problem arises, so if your careful I suspect you can skirt that rule just a bit :) Frank Wendy Smoak wrote: On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most promise: http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to anything that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a legitimate point, sometimes they just say you're using too many resources or affecting other customers on the server. And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and Spring: http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=articlearticleid=120 -- Wendy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Yes, I have searched the mailing list, but still searching the struts mailing list doesn't always bring back the best search results. So, anyway, I'm looking to leave my hosting provider. They were great for the first few years, but lately the problems with them have been too much for me to handle anymore. Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most promise: http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php I'd be interested in some other recommendations (java/jsp support obviously:) and/or companies to stay away from, on or off-list is fine with me. At this point I don't even mind paying more for a good uptime and service. -- Rick
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most promise: http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to anything that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a legitimate point, sometimes they just say you're using too many resources or affecting other customers on the server. And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and Spring: http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=articlearticleid=120 -- Wendy
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Wow, thanks for the info Wendy. This is frustrating. Do you have any recomendations? On 3/1/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most promise: http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to anything that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a legitimate point, sometimes they just say you're using too many resources or affecting other customers on the server. And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and Spring: http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=articlearticleid=120 -- Wendy -- Rick
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
I've had terrible experience with Astrahosting. I wouldn't use anything by them or Web Design Plus (I think is the parent company name). Greg On Mar 1, 2006, at 11:55 AM, Wendy Smoak wrote: On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most promise: http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to anything that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a legitimate point, sometimes they just say you're using too many resources or affecting other customers on the server. And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and Spring: http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=articlearticleid=120 -- Wendy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
www.kattare.com has been stellar so far. We had to work through some issues to setup Roller, and they accomodated me at ever step. -Ted. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
On 3/1/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.kattare.com has been stellar so far. We had to work through some issues to setup Roller, and they accomodated me at ever step. Wow, very nice. Thanks Ted. The only thing is I'd need to host a few addon domains and it appears I'd have to jump from the 3.1 level to the corporate account at 40/month http://www.kattare.com/services_pricing.kvws in order to achieve this. When things are running smoothly I really love what I get for the money at hostforweb with the supreme package http://hostforweb.com/hosting_supreme.html . I haven't found anything close to what they offer for the buck... but I guess now they're trying to jam too many accounts on each server and customer support has gone down recently also (I've been several tickets today without a response back and I still can't access my site http://www.learntechnology.net/ .). -- Rick
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Ted, I'll email them to find out .. but do you happen to know how the private JVM works when you have more than one site hosted? I'd need my own context per domain... but I can't tell from the pricing chart if when you have another domain added, does it automatically get its own private JVM? On 3/1/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.kattare.com has been stellar so far. We had to work through some issues to setup Roller, and they accomodated me at ever step. -Ted. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rick
RE: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Here are what I have used for the past few years: 1. javaservlethosting.com, reliable and flexible hosting service with very low prices, no private JVM, but can reload webapps from control panel. 2. godaddy's (virtual) dedicated server, very good value and service. Do not purchase control panel if you can manager the server. -Original Message- From: Rick Reumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:50 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list. On 3/1/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.kattare.com has been stellar so far. We had to work through some issues to setup Roller, and they accomodated me at ever step. Wow, very nice. Thanks Ted. The only thing is I'd need to host a few addon domains and it appears I'd have to jump from the 3.1 level to the corporate account at 40/month http://www.kattare.com/services_pricing.kvws in order to achieve this. When things are running smoothly I really love what I get for the money at hostforweb with the supreme package http://hostforweb.com/hosting_supreme.html . I haven't found anything close to what they offer for the buck... but I guess now they're trying to jam too many accounts on each server and customer support has gone down recently also (I've been several tickets today without a response back and I still can't access my site http://www.learntechnology.net/ .). -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
On 3/1/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most promise: http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to anything that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a legitimate point, sometimes they just say you're using too many resources or affecting other customers on the server. This sucks. And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and Spring: http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=articlearticleid=120 Would works for me with JSP + Struts + iBATIS ;) I use eroute.net, signed up about two years ago, so I pay about ten bucks a month for shared hosting. Now they charge $17, I am not sure would I sign up right now. Pro: pretty fast and friendly email responses, ftp (you can drop the files you need wherever you want them), mysql/postgres, can use pretty much any libraries you like, can have several web apps on one plan. Cons: need to email them to reboot the server (this really is not a drawback since the server is shared anyway). Several times I found my app unavailable in the past apparently because it was hosted on a server instance that was being rebooted a lot. They probably moved my app on another instance with less reboots, because my demos are available now most of the time. Have to pay extra for Tomcat5, they still use Tomcat4 on standard plan. Kinda slow, ok for demos, but for a real app I would ask for more memory. All in all, works for me for the money I pay and the kind of demos I have. For a larger high-avail application... I am not sure. I was considering rimuhosting, at that time I could get a dedicated server for about $25. I guess they do not have this prices anymore :) I did not sign for it because they basically give you access to a Linux machine and then you are on your own. Which is great for a Linux guru, but I am a Windows guy :) Michael. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
Just to say Id also recommend www.kattare.com I moved 3 sites to them around about a year ago and theyve been amazing extremely helpful getting us up and running, and solid as a rock ever since. The specific answer to your question though, I think, is no. In my case all my domains run in a single tomcat instance so if I need to take tomcat down I take all 3 out. I rarely have to do this and I have an agreed outage window with all my clients at the same time each week so, if I need to do some maintenance, I handle it that way. Quoting Rick Reumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ted, I'll email them to find out .. but do you happen to know how the private JVM works when you have more than one site hosted? I'd need my own context per domain... but I can't tell from the pricing chart if when you have another domain added, does it automatically get its own private JVM? On 3/1/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.kattare.com has been stellar so far. We had to work through some issues to setup Roller, and they accomodated me at ever step. -Ted. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
I should hvae said Jason Hunter's site has a good list of ISP's with user reviews and might also be worth a browse. See http://www.servlets.com/isps/servlet/ISPViewAll Quoting Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 3/1/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most promise: http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to anything that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a legitimate point, sometimes they just say you're using too many resources or affecting other customers on the server. This sucks. And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and Spring: http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=articlearticleid=120 Would works for me with JSP + Struts + iBATIS ;) I use eroute.net, signed up about two years ago, so I pay about ten bucks a month for shared hosting. Now they charge $17, I am not sure would I sign up right now. Pro: pretty fast and friendly email responses, ftp (you can drop the files you need wherever you want them), mysql/postgres, can use pretty much any libraries you like, can have several web apps on one plan. Cons: need to email them to reboot the server (this really is not a drawback since the server is shared anyway). Several times I found my app unavailable in the past apparently because it was hosted on a server instance that was being rebooted a lot. They probably moved my app on another instance with less reboots, because my demos are available now most of the time. Have to pay extra for Tomcat5, they still use Tomcat4 on standard plan. Kinda slow, ok for demos, but for a real app I would ask for more memory. All in all, works for me for the money I pay and the kind of demos I have. For a larger high-avail application... I am not sure. I was considering rimuhosting, at that time I could get a dedicated server for about $25. I guess they do not have this prices anymore :) I did not sign for it because they basically give you access to a Linux machine and then you are on your own. Which is great for a Linux guru, but I am a Windows guy :) Michael. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
So you are saying you can't get a separate context (your own WEB-INF, etc) for each additional domain? On 3/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to say I'd also recommend www.kattare.com I moved 3 sites to them around about a year ago and they've been amazing – extremely helpful getting us up and running, and solid as a rock ever since. The specific answer to your question though, I think, is no. In my case all my domains run in a single tomcat instance so if I need to take tomcat down I take all 3 out. I rarely have to do this and I have an agreed outage window with all my clients at the same time each week so, if I need to do some maintenance, I handle it that way. Quoting Rick Reumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ted, I'll email them to find out .. but do you happen to know how the private JVM works when you have more than one site hosted? I'd need my own context per domain... but I can't tell from the pricing chart if when you have another domain added, does it automatically get its own private JVM? On 3/1/06, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.kattare.com has been stellar so far. We had to work through some issues to setup Roller, and they accomodated me at ever step. -Ted. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Rick
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
I can offer you webhosting. In fact I'm doing this to a (small) number of customers right now. You can have your own tomcat and virtual host integration in the apache. Mail/Backup/ssh/ftp access is also offered. Contact me offlist if you are interested :-) Leon On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I have searched the mailing list, but still searching the struts mailing list doesn't always bring back the best search results. So, anyway, I'm looking to leave my hosting provider. They were great for the first few years, but lately the problems with them have been too much for me to handle anymore. Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most promise: http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php I'd be interested in some other recommendations (java/jsp support obviously:) and/or companies to stay away from, on or off-list is fine with me. At this point I don't even mind paying more for a good uptime and service. -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
www.kattare.com is one of the best feature to price Java hosts. Their support is top-notch. Kevin Taylor -Original Message- From: Rick Reumann [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 12:02 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list. Wow, thanks for the info Wendy. This is frustrating. Do you have any recomendations? On 3/1/06, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most promise: http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to anything that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a legitimate point, sometimes they just say you're using too many resources or affecting other customers on the server. And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and Spring: http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=articlearticleid=120 -- Wendy -- Rick
Re: [OT] Java Hosting Providers, yes, I know it's been brought up before on the list.
While I agree they do this (it happened to me once), that is a risk you run in ANY shared hosting environment... an admin has to make a quick decision that will keep the other people sharing your box running, and many times the easiest solution (and arguably best) is to shut down the offending service, or app, or even domain, and then try and resolve it with the person who owns the supposed offender. They seem to be pretty good at least of informing you in a timely fashion that they had to shut X or Y down on you. At least, the one time it happened to me this was true. I have been with Lunarpages for I think close to 3 years now, something like that, and it's been a fantastic experience overall. I personally WOULD recommend them... good price for what you get, and they are quite responsive (in my experience) to support requests, and for the most part let you do what you want (yes, there are some not allowed items to be aware of as Wendy points out). But, I seriously doubt they are checking everyones' domains, they will only know if a problem arises, so if your careful I suspect you can skirt that rule just a bit :) Frank Wendy Smoak wrote: On 3/1/06, Rick Reumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of my mailing list searching, this hosting provider seems to hold the most promise: http://www.lunarpages.com/plan2.php I wouldn't... LunarPages has a habit of just disabling access to anything that they suspect is causing a problem. Sometimes they have a legitimate point, sometimes they just say you're using too many resources or affecting other customers on the server. And look at the things that they say are not allowed, including JSF and Spring: http://helpdesk.lunarpages.com/faq.php?do=articlearticleid=120 -- Wendy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
