Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-13 Thread Dave Newton
Marsh-Bourdon, Christopher wrote:
No offence taken, it is a very boring occupation; we should all stick to
programming/wannabe rock/love gods.
 

Oh, I dunno... having dabbled in Permaculture and other various 
organic-style farming I found myself far more entertained by the whims 
and interactions of nature and his/her critters.

earth.soil.LowNitrogenExceptions not withstanding.
Dave

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RE: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-13 Thread Marsh-Bourdon, Christopher
No offence taken, it is a very boring occupation; we should all stick to
programming/wannabe rock/love gods.

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Marsh-Bourdon, Christopher wrote the following on 5/13/2005 3:50 AM:
> Never knock Potato farming; I married a potato farmer!

I wasn't knocking it for real.

I'm sure farmer's hours are long and hard work, but there is something 
to be said for tilling God's land. I also think it would be cool to run 
a small country store that makes wooden chairs. Who am I kidding, 
though, the wooden chair makers probably get on their mailing lists in 
the back of the store and complain about the chairs made in China, and 
how the x-rotor-cutter is better than the y-watcha-macallit for making 
chairs and how Gates Chair Company is making crappy products but people 
are buying them. Maybe I could just put a large glass fishbowl in my 
cube and put gumballs or licorice in it for 5¢ and it will give me that small 
town feel.

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Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-13 Thread Rick Reumann
Marsh-Bourdon, Christopher wrote the following on 5/13/2005 3:50 AM:
Never knock Potato farming; I married a potato farmer!
I wasn't knocking it for real.
I'm sure farmer's hours are long and hard work, but there is something 
to be said for tilling God's land. I also think it would be cool to run 
a small country store that makes wooden chairs. Who am I kidding, 
though, the wooden chair makers probably get on their mailing lists in 
the back of the store and complain about the chairs made in China, and 
how the x-rotor-cutter is better than the y-watcha-macallit for making 
chairs and how Gates Chair Company is making crappy products but people 
are buying them. Maybe I could just put a large glass fishbowl in my 
cube and put gumballs or licorice in it for 5¢ and it will give me that 
small town feel.

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RE: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-13 Thread Marsh-Bourdon, Christopher
Never knock Potato farming; I married a potato farmer!

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I might give potato farming a try.

Frank W. Zammetti wrote the following on 5/12/2005 12:09 PM:
> Based on the talent of musicians as a whole over the past few years, I
> would say it's *never* too late to become a rock star.  Even if one is in
> a nursing home, confined to a wheel chair and suffering from any number of
> age-related ailments, one could probably break the top 40 these days :)
> 
> Speaking as one who was in a band for a lot of years and was actually
> presented with a contract offer (I didn't accept it and the band broke
> up... best decision I ever made!), I can say I'd much rather be in the
> crazy world of IT.  At least I can be reasonably sure I won't have to pay
> back thousands of dollars to my employer when my application doesn't sell
> as well as they expected :)
> 


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Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread Gareth Meyrick
hi,

Dave Newton wrote:
> 
> When we see "Perversion of Control" fronted by "Hot Dependency 
> Injection" THEN I'll be scared.

actually i'm already scared..

imagine the VU reincarnating itself to play something like "I'm waiting for
my IDE"..

'guess i'm _really_ showing my age;)

isn't today thursday?

-gm

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Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
With the way my kids manipulate my wife, I'd say it's a great example of 
IoC.

Groan.
Frank
Eric C. Hein wrote:
I guess I'm relieved that Ted doesn't refer to his kids as "POJO's". :)
- Eric
Tour Manager - "No Bean Found"
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Subject: Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?
You wouldn't be so much older than a lot of people in the audience
these days. I sometimes take the kids to all-ages shows, and I'm
always happy to find that I'm still neither the oldest nor the
spookiest guy there :)
Tomorrow night, live at the Steel Music Hall: "Midtown", "Plain White
Ts", and my personal favorite, the Struts band of the week ... "Action
Action". (No kidding.)
I'll be the one in the Apache t-shirt. :)
-Ted.
On 5/12/05, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yea, it's not Friday. Just whining (with no cheese)..
Anyone else fed up with trying to keep up with all the stuff coming out
every day in this crazy IT world  ???

I can't play an instrument or sing, but maybe it's not too late to
become a rock star at 35? I want to join a ska band.
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Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread Eric C. Hein
I guess I'm relieved that Ted doesn't refer to his kids as "POJO's". :)
- Eric
Tour Manager - "No Bean Found"
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Subject: Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

You wouldn't be so much older than a lot of people in the audience
these days. I sometimes take the kids to all-ages shows, and I'm
always happy to find that I'm still neither the oldest nor the
spookiest guy there :)
Tomorrow night, live at the Steel Music Hall: "Midtown", "Plain White
Ts", and my personal favorite, the Struts band of the week ... "Action
Action". (No kidding.)
I'll be the one in the Apache t-shirt. :)
-Ted.
On 5/12/05, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yea, it's not Friday. Just whining (with no cheese)..
Anyone else fed up with trying to keep up with all the stuff coming out
every day in this crazy IT world  
???

I can't play an instrument or sing, but maybe it's not too late to
become a rock star at 35? I want to join a ska band.
--
Rick
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Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread Vic Cekvenich (netsql)
tonight on mtv:
http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/6361.cfm
3 PPC at 3.2 ea.
.V
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Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread Dave Newton
Ted Husted wrote:
Tomorrow night, live at the Steel Music Hall: "Midtown", "Plain White
Ts", and my personal favorite, the Struts band of the week ... "Action
Action". (No kidding.)
 

*lol*
When we see "Perversion of Control" fronted by "Hot Dependency 
Injection" THEN I'll be scared.

Dave

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Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread Ted Husted
You wouldn't be so much older than a lot of people in the audience
these days. I sometimes take the kids to all-ages shows, and I'm
always happy to find that I'm still neither the oldest nor the
spookiest guy there :)

Tomorrow night, live at the Steel Music Hall: "Midtown", "Plain White
Ts", and my personal favorite, the Struts band of the week ... "Action
Action". (No kidding.)

I'll be the one in the Apache t-shirt. :)

-Ted.

On 5/12/05, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yea, it's not Friday. Just whining (with no cheese)..
> 
> Anyone else fed up with trying to keep up with all the stuff coming out
> every day in this crazy IT world  ???
> 
> I can't play an instrument or sing, but maybe it's not too late to
> become a rock star at 35? I want to join a ska band.
> 
> --
> Rick
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RE: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
On Thu, May 12, 2005 12:35 pm, Pilgrim, Peter said:
> How did the Rolling Stone make over the last decade?
> One billion smackers, reportedly!

Exception to the rule.  There's more of those, but that's what they are. 
For every 10 wastes of airspace on the radio there is 1 good talent.  And
I'm probably being kind.

Actually, no I'm not, I'm starting to sound like Simon Cowell, which is to
say NOT kind, but also right more often than not :)

Oh, and before anyone says it... clearly I was not an exception to the
rule myself, otherwise I'd be making the millions instead of talking about
it on this list :)

> I suppose you can ship tune on-line, rather than be involved
> with a label or publisher until you hit the big time.

That is starting to become an option... maybe not shipping online, but
certainly you can do far more yourself independantly than you ever could
before because of the Internet.  If I was still an active musician I'd
probably be pretty happy with what I could do now without needing a label
so much.

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Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread Dave Newton
Rick Reumann wrote:
Anyone else fed up with trying to keep up with all the stuff coming 
out every day in this crazy IT world  ???
At one company I worked for we kept a list of all the 
technologies/acronyms we were using on a single web project. After we 
ran off the end of a page we gave up. And that was several years ago.

Amongst the biggest issues I have with all the new technologies being 
thrust upon us all the time is that there's very rarely any real chance 
to get to know them, experiment, etc. to the degree necessary to be 
actually able to evaluate, separate the wheat from the chaff, integrate 
them into an existing envronment (when it's even practical to do so), etc.

It seems like given an appropriate amount of time to deal with the AWAH 
(Acronyms We Already Have) that considerably more robust, automagically 
documenting, blah blah blah systems could be built. Instead we have to 
spend all our time putting out fires, using technologies "half-way," 
etc. At least that's what I find _my_self doing more often than I'd prefer.

I can't play an instrument or sing, but maybe it's not too late to 
become a rock star at 35? I want to join a ska band.
Actually, not being able to play an instrument or sing is stands you in 
quite good stead for joining a ska band.

Dave

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RE: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread Pilgrim, Peter

> -Original Message-
> From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
====
> 
> 
> Based on the talent of musicians as a whole over the past few years, I
> would say it's *never* too late to become a rock star.  Even 
> if one is in
> a nursing home, confined to a wheel chair and suffering from 
> any number of
> age-related ailments, one could probably break the top 40 
> these days :)
> 

How did the Rolling Stone make over the last decade? 
One billion smackers, reportedly!

> Speaking as one who was in a band for a lot of years and was actually
> presented with a contract offer (I didn't accept it and the band broke
> up... best decision I ever made!), I can say I'd much rather be in the
> crazy world of IT.  At least I can be reasonably sure I won't 
> have to pay
> back thousands of dollars to my employer when my application 
> doesn't sell
> as well as they expected :)
> 

I suppose you can ship tune on-line, rather than be involved
with a label or publisher until you hit the big time.

====

> 
> On Thu, May 12, 2005 11:55 am, Rick Reumann said:
> > Yea, it's not Friday. Just whining (with no cheese)..
> >
> > Anyone else fed up with trying to keep up with all the 
> stuff coming out
> > every day in this crazy IT world  acronyms here>
> > ???

What gets me now is stuff that just doesne install. I tried
to install ATI Graphics Driver last night. I guess what it didn't
work with the latest kernel 2.6.11.8 that I downloaded the night before.
I find I have less and less time to hang out fixing or debugging
somebody else' malware. Do you know what I mean? 

> >
> > I can't play an instrument or sing, but maybe it's not too late to
> > become a rock star at 35? I want to join a ska band.
> >
> > --
> > Rick


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Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread K.C. Baltz
And remember, old ska bands never die, they just can't 
pickitup-pickitup-pickitup anymore. 

(Couldn't resist the chance to use my only ska-related joke).
Rick Reumann wrote:
Yea, it's not Friday. Just whining (with no cheese)..
Anyone else fed up with trying to keep up with all the stuff coming 
out every day in this crazy IT world  ???

I can't play an instrument or sing, but maybe it's not too late to 
become a rock star at 35? I want to join a ska band.

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Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread Rick Reumann
I might give potato farming a try.
Frank W. Zammetti wrote the following on 5/12/2005 12:09 PM:
Based on the talent of musicians as a whole over the past few years, I
would say it's *never* too late to become a rock star.  Even if one is in
a nursing home, confined to a wheel chair and suffering from any number of
age-related ailments, one could probably break the top 40 these days :)
Speaking as one who was in a band for a lot of years and was actually
presented with a contract offer (I didn't accept it and the band broke
up... best decision I ever made!), I can say I'd much rather be in the
crazy world of IT.  At least I can be reasonably sure I won't have to pay
back thousands of dollars to my employer when my application doesn't sell
as well as they expected :)

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Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread Simon Chappell
Ska? Showing your age there Rick. Oops, so am I. :-)

On 5/12/05, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yea, it's not Friday. Just whining (with no cheese)..
> 
> Anyone else fed up with trying to keep up with all the stuff coming out
> every day in this crazy IT world  ???
> 
> I can't play an instrument or sing, but maybe it's not too late to
> become a rock star at 35? I want to join a ska band.
> 
> --
> Rick
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Re: [OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
Based on the talent of musicians as a whole over the past few years, I
would say it's *never* too late to become a rock star.  Even if one is in
a nursing home, confined to a wheel chair and suffering from any number of
age-related ailments, one could probably break the top 40 these days :)

Speaking as one who was in a band for a lot of years and was actually
presented with a contract offer (I didn't accept it and the band broke
up... best decision I ever made!), I can say I'd much rather be in the
crazy world of IT.  At least I can be reasonably sure I won't have to pay
back thousands of dollars to my employer when my application doesn't sell
as well as they expected :)

-- 
Frank W. Zammetti
Founder and Chief Software Architect
Omnytex Technologies
http://www.omnytex.com

On Thu, May 12, 2005 11:55 am, Rick Reumann said:
> Yea, it's not Friday. Just whining (with no cheese)..
>
> Anyone else fed up with trying to keep up with all the stuff coming out
> every day in this crazy IT world 
> ???
>
> I can't play an instrument or sing, but maybe it's not too late to
> become a rock star at 35? I want to join a ska band.
>
> --
> Rick
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[OT] Too late to become a rock star?

2005-05-12 Thread Rick Reumann
Yea, it's not Friday. Just whining (with no cheese)..
Anyone else fed up with trying to keep up with all the stuff coming out 
every day in this crazy IT world  ???

I can't play an instrument or sing, but maybe it's not too late to 
become a rock star at 35? I want to join a ska band.

--
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