Re: Allow max. file upload size of more than 2gb in struts 2
You may also want to check the docs: https://struts.apache.org/docs/file-upload.html which has a section on size limits. > On Dec 9, 2015, at 1:38 AM, punter wrote: > > > Hello, > I am using Struts 2.1 in my project. For the file upload process, is it > possible to supersede the normal 2 gb file limit for struts2.The struts.xml > maxsize element in my project is as follows : >value="2147483648" /> > Please update me the process to allow more than 2gb (Upto 3 or 4 gb) file > uploads in struts 2.1. > Thanks,Saurabh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org
Re: Allow max. file upload size of more than 2gb in struts 2
> Hello, > I am using Struts 2.1 in my project. For the file upload process, is > it possible to supersede the normal 2 gb file limit for struts2.The > struts.xml maxsize element in my project is as follows : >value="2147483648" /> > Please update me the process to allow more than 2gb (Upto 3 or 4 gb) > file uploads in struts 2.1. > Thanks,Saurabh Usually application-servers or servlet-containers have their own max size limit. Have you checked that? E.g. tomcat has a parameter maxPostSize (if you are using that one): http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-8.0-doc/config/http.html Regards, Christoph This Email was scanned by Sophos Anti Virus
Allow max. file upload size of more than 2gb in struts 2
Hello, I am using Struts 2.1 in my project. For the file upload process, is it possible to supersede the normal 2 gb file limit for struts2.The struts.xml maxsize element in my project is as follows :Please update me the process to allow more than 2gb (Upto 3 or 4 gb) file uploads in struts 2.1. Thanks,Saurabh
RE: How to limit file upload size without full upload
i assume thats the RLE of the entity you are streaming? in which case maxPostSize will alleviate that limitation on a non-ssl HTTP 1.1 connector there are now asynchronous connectors available which will alleviate the majority of performance issues you are experiencing which wont be discussed here (the topic of asynch connectors is off-topic to struts and is specific to container) when you *finally* do arrive to the issue of whether or not to use commons-fileupload or struts-fileupload tag with a collection or not to use a collection the implementation details are easily discernible from the doc and can be handled by list members the topic of transporting large files (which you will encounter with file-uploading) is a topic worthy of serious consideration and has many implications for container architects i believe thinking of a overall solution (vis a vis size,compression and securty) and work to smaller iterations is a good methodology to follow..others have their own methodologies please feel free to ping me O/L for more discussion on use of asynchronous connectors.. and yes continue to ping list for implementation details on struts tags (such as CFU) thanks Martin __ Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:51:28 -0400 > Subject: Re: How to limit file upload size without full upload > From: w...@wantii.com > To: user@struts.apache.org > > I've been known to be wrong before ;) unfortunately, more often than I > would prefer :( > > The next setting I would look at is in commons-fileupload, but with > the stock file upload capabilities, you don't have a lot of options > for changing configuration. I didn't look really close at how CFU > behaves, but if you came back and said that it waits until the upload > is complete before checking file size, I wouldn't be surprised. IIRC, > the content size sent by the browser as part of the upload is not > always reliable, leaving the upload handler to check size as it is > receiving data. IMO, it might be hard to make it work right. > Fortunately, there is a plugin in the sandbox that makes the upload > capabilities more configurable, but unfortunately, you have to be > running against a SNAPSHOT build of struts, since I had to update core > to allow some of the configuration. If you wanna play around with it, > since it's unreleased, be prepared to build struts and the plugin from > scratch with maven and be patient if you find bugs. > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Greg Lindholm wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Wes Wannemacher wrote: > >> > >> On Saturday 13 June 2009 10:34:53 pm tatan123 wrote: > >> > We want to restrict the file upload size to 2 MB. While doing testing it > >> > seems we can upload a 100 MB file, after that struts2 showing message > >> > that > >> > the uploaded file exceeds the max file size limit. Is there any way > >> > struts2 > >> > can show the error message without full file upload... > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > >> I could be wrong, but if you are talking about the temp file generated as > >> the > >> upload takes place, then you might be better off setting the max post size > >> of > >> your application server. In Tomcat, you can use the maxPostSize attribute > >> of > >> the connector element. > >> > >> -Wes > >> -- > >> > >> > > > > I don't think the Tomcat maxPostSize attribute applies to file uploads. > > Here is what the Tomcat 5.5 docs say: > > > > The maximum size in bytes of the POST which will be handled by the container > > FORM URL parameter parsing. The limit can be disabled by setting this > > attribute to a value less than or equal to 0. If not specified, this > > attribute is set to 2097152 (2 megabytes). > > > > I've never set this attribute and have been able to upload 20mb files. > > > > > > > > -- > Wes Wannemacher > Author - Struts 2 In Practice > Includes coverage of Struts 2.1, Spring, JPA, JQuery, Sitemesh and more > http://www.manning.com/wannemacher > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org > _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009
Re: How to limit file upload size without full upload
I've been known to be wrong before ;) unfortunately, more often than I would prefer :( The next setting I would look at is in commons-fileupload, but with the stock file upload capabilities, you don't have a lot of options for changing configuration. I didn't look really close at how CFU behaves, but if you came back and said that it waits until the upload is complete before checking file size, I wouldn't be surprised. IIRC, the content size sent by the browser as part of the upload is not always reliable, leaving the upload handler to check size as it is receiving data. IMO, it might be hard to make it work right. Fortunately, there is a plugin in the sandbox that makes the upload capabilities more configurable, but unfortunately, you have to be running against a SNAPSHOT build of struts, since I had to update core to allow some of the configuration. If you wanna play around with it, since it's unreleased, be prepared to build struts and the plugin from scratch with maven and be patient if you find bugs. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Greg Lindholm wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Wes Wannemacher wrote: >> >> On Saturday 13 June 2009 10:34:53 pm tatan123 wrote: >> > We want to restrict the file upload size to 2 MB. While doing testing it >> > seems we can upload a 100 MB file, after that struts2 showing message >> > that >> > the uploaded file exceeds the max file size limit. Is there any way >> > struts2 >> > can show the error message without full file upload... >> > >> > Thanks >> >> I could be wrong, but if you are talking about the temp file generated as >> the >> upload takes place, then you might be better off setting the max post size >> of >> your application server. In Tomcat, you can use the maxPostSize attribute >> of >> the connector element. >> >> -Wes >> -- >> >> > > I don't think the Tomcat maxPostSize attribute applies to file uploads. > Here is what the Tomcat 5.5 docs say: > > The maximum size in bytes of the POST which will be handled by the container > FORM URL parameter parsing. The limit can be disabled by setting this > attribute to a value less than or equal to 0. If not specified, this > attribute is set to 2097152 (2 megabytes). > > I've never set this attribute and have been able to upload 20mb files. > > -- Wes Wannemacher Author - Struts 2 In Practice Includes coverage of Struts 2.1, Spring, JPA, JQuery, Sitemesh and more http://www.manning.com/wannemacher - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org
Re: How to limit file upload size without full upload
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Wes Wannemacher wrote: > On Saturday 13 June 2009 10:34:53 pm tatan123 wrote: > > We want to restrict the file upload size to 2 MB. While doing testing it > > seems we can upload a 100 MB file, after that struts2 showing message > that > > the uploaded file exceeds the max file size limit. Is there any way > struts2 > > can show the error message without full file upload... > > > > Thanks > > I could be wrong, but if you are talking about the temp file generated as > the > upload takes place, then you might be better off setting the max post size > of > your application server. In Tomcat, you can use the maxPostSize attribute > of > the connector element. > > -Wes > -- > > > I don't think the Tomcat maxPostSize attribute applies to file uploads. Here is what the Tomcat 5.5 docs say: The maximum size in bytes of the POST which will be handled by the container FORM URL parameter parsing. The limit can be disabled by setting this attribute to a value less than or equal to 0. If not specified, this attribute is set to 2097152 (2 megabytes). I've never set this attribute and have been able to upload 20mb files.
Re: How to limit file upload size without full upload
On Saturday 13 June 2009 10:34:53 pm tatan123 wrote: > We want to restrict the file upload size to 2 MB. While doing testing it > seems we can upload a 100 MB file, after that struts2 showing message that > the uploaded file exceeds the max file size limit. Is there any way struts2 > can show the error message without full file upload... > > Thanks I could be wrong, but if you are talking about the temp file generated as the upload takes place, then you might be better off setting the max post size of your application server. In Tomcat, you can use the maxPostSize attribute of the connector element. -Wes -- Wes Wannemacher Author - Struts 2 In Practice Includes coverage of Struts 2.1, Spring, JPA, JQuery, Sitemesh and more http://www.manning.com/wannemacher - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org
How to limit file upload size without full upload
We want to restrict the file upload size to 2 MB. While doing testing it seems we can upload a 100 MB file, after that struts2 showing message that the uploaded file exceeds the max file size limit. Is there any way struts2 can show the error message without full file upload... Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-to-limit-file-upload-size-without-full-upload-tp24018123p24018123.html Sent from the Struts - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org
[s2] file upload size validation indiced problems
I have a form that has an element. When the upload exceeds that size, the input page is returned. Log4j records show this log message: org.apache.commons.fileupload.FileUploadBase$SizeLimitExceededException: the request was rejected because its size (xxx) exceeds the configured maximum (yyy) All other form elements are blank; required fields show field errors. The upload element does not show any field errors. The action never receives the request. Everything works as expected when the max file size is not exceeded. Why don't I see the upload field's error? What happened to all of the other field values? How can this be fixed? I'm using struts 2.1.2 w/ xwork 2.1.1 My action uses the default stack. The application does not have a struts.properties file I've tried adding a validate( ) method to my action class but that did not change things, so I removed it. === STRUTS.XML (edited for brevity) === === /admin/siterequest/request_form_thanks.jsp /admin/siterequest/request_form.jsp === JSP PAGE (edited for brevity) = === <%@ taglib prefix="s" uri="/struts-tags" %> <%@ taglib prefix="sx" uri="/struts-dojo-tags" %> === ACTION CLASS (edited for brevity) = === public class SiteRequestAction extends ActionSupport implements Preparable, SessionAware { public String save() { try { this.siteRequestFacade.save(this.siteRequest); return "success"; } catch (Throwable exception) { logger.error("Unable to save SiteRequest: ", exception); return "input"; } } Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck & Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp & Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu - direct contact information for affiliates is available at http://www.merck.com/contact/contacts.html) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: user-unsubscr...@struts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: user-h...@struts.apache.org
Re: About incresing file upload size in Struts 2
2008/11/22 Hardik Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > can anybody give me detailed configuration to increase size of file upload in > struts 2.0.11.2 Take a look on that http://struts.apache.org/2.x/docs/how-do-we-upload-files.html Regards -- Lukasz http://www.lenart.org.pl/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
About incresing file upload size in Struts 2
can anybody give me detailed configuration to increase size of file upload in struts 2.0.11.2 please help me -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/About-incresing-file-upload-size-in-Struts-2-tp20633816p20633816.html Sent from the Struts - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Struts 2 file upload size validation
mgainty wrote: > > 2.0.11 FileUploadIntereptor.java > > ActionContext ac = invocation.getInvocationContext(); > HttpServletRequest request = (HttpServletRequest) > ac.get(ServletActionContext.HTTP_REQUEST); > HashMap map = request.getParameterMap(); > //for further information take a look at > http://www.docjar.com/docs/api/javax/servlet/ServletRequest.html#getParameterMap > > Tried that and it works as long as the file size validation does not fail in the interceptor. If it fails the parameter map is empty. Any other ideas. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Struts-2-file-upload-size-validation-tp17112411p17146914.html Sent from the Struts - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Struts 2 file upload size validation
Yes if the file size is OK everything is fine. At first we used the default stack. Then we took the default and modified it by moving the fileUploadInterceptor below the params interceptor so it would look something like this: interceptor-stack name="ourUploadStack" interceptor-ref name="exception" interceptor-ref name="alias" interceptor-ref name="servletConfig" interceptor-ref name="prepare" interceptor-ref name="i18n" interceptor-ref name="chain" interceptor-ref name="debugging" interceptor-ref name="profiling" interceptor-ref name="scopedModelDriven" interceptor-ref name="modelDriven" interceptor-ref name="checkbox" interceptor-ref name="staticParams" interceptor-ref name="params" param name="excludeParams"dojo\..*param interceptor-ref interceptor-ref name="conversionError" interceptor-ref name="fileUpload" interceptor-ref name="validation" param name="excludeMethods"input,back,cancel,browseparam interceptor-ref interceptor-ref name="workflow" param name="excludeMethods"input,back,cancel,browseparam interceptor-ref interceptor-stack Thanks R Laurie Harper wrote: > > Rubbinio wrote: >> Hi, >> >> we are trying to use file upload in Struts 2 and run into the following >> problem. >> >> We have a form with multiple fields among which one is a file input >> field. >> The user must complete the form and then select a file to upload. If the >> file size is larger than what we specify in the struts.properties the >> FileUploadInterceptor validates and adds the error. Up to here everything >> is >> fine however upon having the error passed to the action we want to return >> to >> the same form, display the error and have the rest of fields populated >> with >> the values the user has inputed (except the file field). >> >> The problem is that when we get in the action (validate method) none of >> the >> request parameters (form values) are populated. Everything is empty. >> >> The question is why is this happening and how can we have the form values >> populated in the action so that we can display the page correctly ? > > What interceptor stack are you using? Does everything work as expected > if the file size does not exceed the size you specify? > > L. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Struts-2-file-upload-size-validation-tp17112411p17125070.html Sent from the Struts - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Struts 2 file upload size validation
The OP wrote: >> we are trying to use file upload in Struts 2... Martin wrote: Struts 1.2.9 Doh! org.apache.struts.chain.servlet.validateActionForm where the validate method is declared as protected ActionErrors validate(Context context, ActionConfig actionConfig, ActionForm actionForm) //reference the actionForm for access to the form attributes 2.0.11 FileUploadIntereptor.java ActionContext ac = invocation.getInvocationContext(); HttpServletRequest request = (HttpServletRequest) ac.get(ServletActionContext.HTTP_REQUEST); HashMap map = request.getParameterMap(); //for further information take a look at http://www.docjar.com/docs/api/javax/servlet/ServletRequest.html#getParameterMap HTH M - Original Message - From: "Rubbinio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:24 PM Subject: Struts 2 file upload size validation Hi, we are trying to use file upload in Struts 2 and run into the following problem. We have a form with multiple fields among which one is a file input field. The user must complete the form and then select a file to upload. If the file size is larger than what we specify in the struts.properties the FileUploadInterceptor validates and adds the error. Up to here everything is fine however upon having the error passed to the action we want to return to the same form, display the error and have the rest of fields populated with the values the user has inputed (except the file field). The problem is that when we get in the action (validate method) none of the request parameters (form values) are populated. Everything is empty. The question is why is this happening and how can we have the form values populated in the action so that we can display the page correctly ? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Struts-2-file-upload-size-validation-tp17112411p17112411.html Sent from the Struts - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Struts 2 file upload size validation
Rubbinio wrote: Hi, we are trying to use file upload in Struts 2 and run into the following problem. We have a form with multiple fields among which one is a file input field. The user must complete the form and then select a file to upload. If the file size is larger than what we specify in the struts.properties the FileUploadInterceptor validates and adds the error. Up to here everything is fine however upon having the error passed to the action we want to return to the same form, display the error and have the rest of fields populated with the values the user has inputed (except the file field). The problem is that when we get in the action (validate method) none of the request parameters (form values) are populated. Everything is empty. The question is why is this happening and how can we have the form values populated in the action so that we can display the page correctly ? What interceptor stack are you using? Does everything work as expected if the file size does not exceed the size you specify? L. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Struts 2 file upload size validation
Struts 1.2.9 org.apache.struts.chain.servlet.validateActionForm where the validate method is declared as protected ActionErrors validate(Context context, ActionConfig actionConfig, ActionForm actionForm) //reference the actionForm for access to the form attributes 2.0.11 FileUploadIntereptor.java ActionContext ac = invocation.getInvocationContext(); HttpServletRequest request = (HttpServletRequest) ac.get(ServletActionContext.HTTP_REQUEST); HashMap map = request.getParameterMap(); //for further information take a look at http://www.docjar.com/docs/api/javax/servlet/ServletRequest.html#getParameterMap HTH M - Original Message - From: "Rubbinio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:24 PM Subject: Struts 2 file upload size validation Hi, we are trying to use file upload in Struts 2 and run into the following problem. We have a form with multiple fields among which one is a file input field. The user must complete the form and then select a file to upload. If the file size is larger than what we specify in the struts.properties the FileUploadInterceptor validates and adds the error. Up to here everything is fine however upon having the error passed to the action we want to return to the same form, display the error and have the rest of fields populated with the values the user has inputed (except the file field). The problem is that when we get in the action (validate method) none of the request parameters (form values) are populated. Everything is empty. The question is why is this happening and how can we have the form values populated in the action so that we can display the page correctly ? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Struts-2-file-upload-size-validation-tp17112411p17112411.html Sent from the Struts - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Struts 2 file upload size validation
Hi, we are trying to use file upload in Struts 2 and run into the following problem. We have a form with multiple fields among which one is a file input field. The user must complete the form and then select a file to upload. If the file size is larger than what we specify in the struts.properties the FileUploadInterceptor validates and adds the error. Up to here everything is fine however upon having the error passed to the action we want to return to the same form, display the error and have the rest of fields populated with the values the user has inputed (except the file field). The problem is that when we get in the action (validate method) none of the request parameters (form values) are populated. Everything is empty. The question is why is this happening and how can we have the form values populated in the action so that we can display the page correctly ? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Struts-2-file-upload-size-validation-tp17112411p17112411.html Sent from the Struts - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to programmatically set the maximum file upload size and allowed file types (FileUploadInterceptor)
Is there a way to do this programmatically rather than declaratively? Thanks!
Re: File Upload Size
> No it doesn't Maybe that's the problem, FileUploadInterceptor check if action implements it and add error messages. If you implement it, remember to add result name=input. Regards -- Lukasz http://www.linkedin.com/in/lukaszlenart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File Upload Size
No it doesn't On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Lukasz Lenart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does your action implements ValidationAware interface? > > > > > > Regards > -- > Lukasz > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/lukaszlenart > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File Upload Size
Does your action implements ValidationAware interface? Regards -- Lukasz http://www.linkedin.com/in/lukaszlenart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File Upload Size
Hi, You can subclass FileUploadInterceptor and override acceptFile(File file, String contentType, String inputName, ValidationAware validation, Locale locale) method Regards -- Lukasz http://www.linkedin.com/in/lukaszlenart - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File Upload Size
The reason I am asking this is bacuase when I upload a file over 15MB I get "no result mapped for INPUT" exception in my error log. When I do map a result for input the app hangs. I looked at the file upload in the struts showcase and it returns an error message when the file you upload is too big. I checked the source and I could not find where this is being implemented. I have on my page which i return input to, but as I said earlier my upload action is hanging. On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Richard Sayre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I set the file upload max size in the struts.properties to 15MB. When > I upload a file over 15MB my action returns input. Is there any way I > can check to see if the file is over the max size set in the > properties file and handle what result I want to happen myself? I > seems that it returns input before it even goes into my action. Is > this happening in the file upload interceptor? Can I gain more > control over this? > > Thank you, > > Rich > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
File Upload Size
I set the file upload max size in the struts.properties to 15MB. When I upload a file over 15MB my action returns input. Is there any way I can check to see if the file is over the max size set in the properties file and handle what result I want to happen myself? I seems that it returns input before it even goes into my action. Is this happening in the file upload interceptor? Can I gain more control over this? Thank you, Rich - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]