RE: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-05-10 Thread Barett McGavock
Congrats, booyah, on your find.

Someone asked me to post when I finally decided on a mouse. I got a
Microsoft Intellimouse V4.0A (wired:USB). I like it so far but I am having
trouble deciding whether to use 2 or 3 fingers on top.

3 seems to get a little cramped but with 2, I end up having the fingers over
the primary button and the scroll wheel and it's an annoying stretch to the
right side of the mouse. I usually end up with two on top and scrolling with
the right edge of the wheel. Thank goodness it's a cool rubber scroller and
grips well with very little pressure.

Any input? :)

I don't really use the side-scrolling features nor the left-side buttons.

B

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> 
> Barett McGavock wrote:
> 
> > I agree with you 100% and share your concerns about the 
> > wireless mice. I am shopping for a non-wireless mouse for 
> > myself, as well. I'm looking at products in stores from 
> > both Microsoft and Logitech that are not wireless. I 
> > presume that these are not the newest-out products.
> 
> Hah!
> 
> I stopped by PC World this afternoon.  For those of you who 
> don't live 
> in the UK, PC World is the computer supplies shop least 
> likely to have 
> in stock the one item you really require.  Imagine my surprise when I 
> picked up the _last_ non-wireless Intellimouse Explorer 4.0.  All the 
> others were wireless.
> 
> I'm using it right now and it's a fine rodent.  Almost the 
> same size as 
> its predecessor, but slightly more sculpted.  The wheel has no 
> click-stops; it has a completely smooth and initially disconcerting 
> scroll.  But I like it, I think.
> 
> That said, I was torn, much to my surprise, between the MS 
> Intellimouse and Logitech's MX 500.  That mouse was a fine 
> piece of work. The only feature it lacked was the side-scrolling 
> function of Microsoft's wheel.
> And it felt 1% less chunky than Microsoft's equivalent.  Still, a 
> pleasant surprise from a company that I traditionally equate with 
> nanotechnology.
> 
> Happy hunting RSI Warriors.

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Re: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-04-24 Thread bOOyah
Barett McGavock wrote:

I agree with you 100% and share your concerns about the wireless mice. I am
shopping for a non-wireless mouse for myself, as well. I'm looking at
products in stores from both Microsoft and Logitech that are not wireless. I
presume that these are not the newest-out products.
Hah!

I stopped by PC World this afternoon.  For those of you who don't live 
in the UK, PC World is the computer supplies shop least likely to have 
in stock the one item you really require.  Imagine my surprise when I 
picked up the _last_ non-wireless Intellimouse Explorer 4.0.  All the 
others were wireless.

I'm using it right now and it's a fine rodent.  Almost the same size as 
its predecessor, but slightly more sculpted.  The wheel has no 
click-stops; it has a completely smooth and initially disconcerting 
scroll.  But I like it, I think.

That said, I was torn, much to my surprise, between the MS Intellimouse 
and Logitech's MX 500.  That mouse was a fine piece of work.  The only 
feature it lacked was the side-scrolling function of Microsoft's wheel. 
 And it felt 1% less chunky than Microsoft's equivalent.  Still, a 
pleasant surprise from a company that I traditionally equate with 
nanotechnology.

Happy hunting RSI Warriors.

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RE: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-04-23 Thread Neale, Bennett
Well, I used to be when I worked at SquareSoft (makers of Final Fantasy
series). Tribes was a great game. I'm still playing Wolfenstein. After
getting a little older and out of the video game industry my interest
in games has somewhat curtailed. I guess too much reading to stay on top
of things. :(
B

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Neale, Bennett wrote:

> I have the wireless bluetooth mouse from M$.
> It's cool for me because I have it hooked up to my pc at work and on
my 
> laptop at home. The thing that sucks is exactly what you hit on, the 
> batteries. I've never owned a wireless mouse before but if I could get
6
> months out of the batteries I'd be happy. On average for me they run
out
> about every 6 weeks.

And bluetooth is generally pretty easy on power requirements.  Are you a

gamer perchance?  I used to need a new mouse every few months when 
Tribes was de rigeur.
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Re: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-04-23 Thread bOOyah
Neale, Bennett wrote:

I have the wireless bluetooth mouse from M$.
It's cool for me because I have it hooked up to my pc at work and on my 
laptop at home. The thing that sucks is exactly what you hit on, the 
batteries. I've never owned a wireless mouse before but if I could get 6
months out of the batteries I'd be happy. On average for me they run out
about every 6 weeks.
And bluetooth is generally pretty easy on power requirements.  Are you a 
gamer perchance?  I used to need a new mouse every few months when 
Tribes was de rigeur.
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Re: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-04-23 Thread bOOyah
Riyad Kalla wrote:

"Power User" w.r.t. to mice gives me a mental image of someone grunting and 
sweating while muscling their mouse around their desk... 
That would be Steve Ballmer.

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Re: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-04-23 Thread Riyad Kalla
"Power User" w.r.t. to mice gives me a mental image of someone grunting and 
sweating while muscling their mouse around their desk... 

On Friday 23 April 2004 02:26 pm, Neale, Bennett wrote:
> Yeah, microsoft touted that the batteries should last over 6 months.
> I dunno, maybe I'm some type of power user ;).
> B
>
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> From: Riyad Kalla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:20 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??
>
> Oh that sucks... I thought there was a docking station, guess not!
>
> 6 weeks... that's kind of rediculous... common MS! Put a digital camera
> battery in it or something and give us a recharger.
>
> On Friday 23 April 2004 02:19 pm, Neale, Bennett wrote:
> > I have the wireless bluetooth mouse from M$.
> > It's cool for me because I have it hooked up to my pc at work and on
>
> my
>
> > laptop at home. The thing that sucks is exactly what you hit on, the
> > batteries. I've never owned a wireless mouse before but if I could get
>
> 6
>
> > months out of the batteries I'd be happy. On average for me they run
>
> out
>
> > about every 6 weeks.
> >
> > B
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: bOOyah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:12 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??
> >
> > It's Friday.
> >
> > I need to buy a replacement for my borked Intellimouse Explorer.  It's
> > starting to issue double-click events, which is pretty disconcerting.
> > At least, I _hope_ it's my mouse, otherwise my RSI has taken a nasty
> > turn for the worse.
> >
> > I'm a fan of Microsoft's mice because the devices in its Explorer
>
> range
>
> > are nice and big, just like my hands (Logitech's rodents tend to be
> > smaller).  But nearly all the Microsoft mice available on Amazon.co.uk
> > are wireless.  Ditto for my other favourite site, dabs.co.uk.  A quick
> > excursion to Microsoft's corporate Mouse site reveals that, yes
>
> indeed,
>
> > all the latest Explorer mice are wireless.
> >
> > Despite finding the concept of an stationary, yet wireless device
>
> deeply
>
> > crazy, I might just buy a wireless mouse and have done with
>
> it...life's
>
> > just too short.  But I think having to replace batteries every 6
>
> months
>
> > would get right on my nerves.
> >
> > Any opinions?  Does replacing the batteries in your wireless mouse or
> > keyboard drive you nuts?  Are there real advantages to using a
>
> wireless
>
> > input device that I just cannot see?
> >
> > Trivially yours,
>
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RE: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-04-23 Thread Neale, Bennett
Yeah, microsoft touted that the batteries should last over 6 months.
I dunno, maybe I'm some type of power user ;).
B

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From: Riyad Kalla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

Oh that sucks... I thought there was a docking station, guess not!

6 weeks... that's kind of rediculous... common MS! Put a digital camera 
battery in it or something and give us a recharger.

On Friday 23 April 2004 02:19 pm, Neale, Bennett wrote:
> I have the wireless bluetooth mouse from M$.
> It's cool for me because I have it hooked up to my pc at work and on
my
> laptop at home. The thing that sucks is exactly what you hit on, the
> batteries. I've never owned a wireless mouse before but if I could get
6
>
> months out of the batteries I'd be happy. On average for me they run
out
>
> about every 6 weeks.
>
> B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bOOyah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??
>
> It's Friday.
>
> I need to buy a replacement for my borked Intellimouse Explorer.  It's
> starting to issue double-click events, which is pretty disconcerting.
> At least, I _hope_ it's my mouse, otherwise my RSI has taken a nasty
> turn for the worse.
>
> I'm a fan of Microsoft's mice because the devices in its Explorer
range
> are nice and big, just like my hands (Logitech's rodents tend to be
> smaller).  But nearly all the Microsoft mice available on Amazon.co.uk
> are wireless.  Ditto for my other favourite site, dabs.co.uk.  A quick
> excursion to Microsoft's corporate Mouse site reveals that, yes
indeed,
> all the latest Explorer mice are wireless.
>
> Despite finding the concept of an stationary, yet wireless device
deeply
>
> crazy, I might just buy a wireless mouse and have done with
it...life's
> just too short.  But I think having to replace batteries every 6
months
> would get right on my nerves.
>
> Any opinions?  Does replacing the batteries in your wireless mouse or
> keyboard drive you nuts?  Are there real advantages to using a
wireless
> input device that I just cannot see?
>
> Trivially yours,

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Re: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-04-23 Thread Riyad Kalla
On Friday 23 April 2004 02:21 pm, bOOyah wrote:
> Barett McGavock wrote:
> > I agree with you 100% and share your concerns about the wireless mice. I
> > am shopping for a non-wireless mouse for myself, as well. I'm looking at
> > products in stores from both Microsoft and Logitech that are not
> > wireless. I presume that these are not the newest-out products.
>
> Let me know how you go Barett.  At worst I could buy another
> Intellimouse Explorer, but I'd like to inflict something new on my
> carpal tunnel.
>
> One time before, I opted for a flashy Logitech.  But it was so small I
> had to operate it using tweezers.  Amazon must have taken its picture
> with an electron microscope.

LOL

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Re: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-04-23 Thread bOOyah
Barett McGavock wrote:

I agree with you 100% and share your concerns about the wireless mice. I am
shopping for a non-wireless mouse for myself, as well. I'm looking at
products in stores from both Microsoft and Logitech that are not wireless. I
presume that these are not the newest-out products.
Let me know how you go Barett.  At worst I could buy another 
Intellimouse Explorer, but I'd like to inflict something new on my 
carpal tunnel.

One time before, I opted for a flashy Logitech.  But it was so small I 
had to operate it using tweezers.  Amazon must have taken its picture 
with an electron microscope.

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Re: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-04-23 Thread Riyad Kalla
Oh that sucks... I thought there was a docking station, guess not!

6 weeks... that's kind of rediculous... common MS! Put a digital camera 
battery in it or something and give us a recharger.

On Friday 23 April 2004 02:19 pm, Neale, Bennett wrote:
> I have the wireless bluetooth mouse from M$.
> It's cool for me because I have it hooked up to my pc at work and on my
> laptop at home. The thing that sucks is exactly what you hit on, the
> batteries. I've never owned a wireless mouse before but if I could get 6
>
> months out of the batteries I'd be happy. On average for me they run out
>
> about every 6 weeks.
>
> B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bOOyah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??
>
> It's Friday.
>
> I need to buy a replacement for my borked Intellimouse Explorer.  It's
> starting to issue double-click events, which is pretty disconcerting.
> At least, I _hope_ it's my mouse, otherwise my RSI has taken a nasty
> turn for the worse.
>
> I'm a fan of Microsoft's mice because the devices in its Explorer range
> are nice and big, just like my hands (Logitech's rodents tend to be
> smaller).  But nearly all the Microsoft mice available on Amazon.co.uk
> are wireless.  Ditto for my other favourite site, dabs.co.uk.  A quick
> excursion to Microsoft's corporate Mouse site reveals that, yes indeed,
> all the latest Explorer mice are wireless.
>
> Despite finding the concept of an stationary, yet wireless device deeply
>
> crazy, I might just buy a wireless mouse and have done with it...life's
> just too short.  But I think having to replace batteries every 6 months
> would get right on my nerves.
>
> Any opinions?  Does replacing the batteries in your wireless mouse or
> keyboard drive you nuts?  Are there real advantages to using a wireless
> input device that I just cannot see?
>
> Trivially yours,

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Re: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-04-23 Thread Riyad Kalla
You can't go wrong with an IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0

I personally don't like Logitec, but that's only cause I've had a series of 
bad luck with their opticals (keep crapping out).

On Friday 23 April 2004 02:29 pm, Barett McGavock wrote:
> I agree with you 100% and share your concerns about the wireless mice. I am
> shopping for a non-wireless mouse for myself, as well. I'm looking at
> products in stores from both Microsoft and Logitech that are not wireless.
> I presume that these are not the newest-out products.
>
> B
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: bOOyah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:12 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??
> >
> >
> > It's Friday.
> >
> > I need to buy a replacement for my borked Intellimouse
> > Explorer.  It's starting to issue double-click events,
> > which is pretty disconcerting. At least, I _hope_ it's
> > my mouse, otherwise my RSI has taken a nasty turn for
> > the worse.
> >
> > I'm a fan of Microsoft's mice because the devices in its
> > Explorer range are nice and big, just like my hands
> > (Logitech's rodents tend to be smaller).  But nearly all
> > the Microsoft mice available on Amazon.co.uk are wireless.
> > Ditto for my other favourite site, dabs.co.uk.  A quick
> > excursion to Microsoft's corporate Mouse site reveals that,
> > yes indeed, all the latest Explorer mice are wireless.
> >
> > Despite finding the concept of an stationary, yet wireless
> > device deeply crazy, I might just buy a wireless mouse and
> > have done with it...life's just too short.  But I think
> > having to replace batteries every 6 months would get right
> > on my nerves.
> >
> > Any opinions?  Does replacing the batteries in your wireless
> > mouse or keyboard drive you nuts?  Are there real advantages
> > to using a wireless input device that I just cannot see?
>
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RE: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-04-23 Thread Neale, Bennett
I have the wireless bluetooth mouse from M$.
It's cool for me because I have it hooked up to my pc at work and on my 
laptop at home. The thing that sucks is exactly what you hit on, the 
batteries. I've never owned a wireless mouse before but if I could get 6

months out of the batteries I'd be happy. On average for me they run out

about every 6 weeks.

B

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Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:12 PM
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Subject: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

It's Friday.

I need to buy a replacement for my borked Intellimouse Explorer.  It's 
starting to issue double-click events, which is pretty disconcerting. 
At least, I _hope_ it's my mouse, otherwise my RSI has taken a nasty 
turn for the worse.

I'm a fan of Microsoft's mice because the devices in its Explorer range 
are nice and big, just like my hands (Logitech's rodents tend to be 
smaller).  But nearly all the Microsoft mice available on Amazon.co.uk 
are wireless.  Ditto for my other favourite site, dabs.co.uk.  A quick 
excursion to Microsoft's corporate Mouse site reveals that, yes indeed, 
all the latest Explorer mice are wireless.

Despite finding the concept of an stationary, yet wireless device deeply

crazy, I might just buy a wireless mouse and have done with it...life's 
just too short.  But I think having to replace batteries every 6 months 
would get right on my nerves.

Any opinions?  Does replacing the batteries in your wireless mouse or 
keyboard drive you nuts?  Are there real advantages to using a wireless 
input device that I just cannot see?

Trivially yours,
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Re: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-04-23 Thread Riyad Kalla
On Friday 23 April 2004 02:11 pm, bOOyah wrote:
> It's Friday.
>
> I need to buy a replacement for my borked Intellimouse Explorer.  It's
> starting to issue double-click events, which is pretty disconcerting.
> At least, I _hope_ it's my mouse, otherwise my RSI has taken a nasty
> turn for the worse.

This EXACT same thing happened to me for about 3months. I thought I was going 
crazy... at first it was a annoying but I think many people would be 
surprised how descructive double clicking can be when its not indended when 
using an IDE or just working on your PC (accidentally moving the C:\Windows 
directory into the Program Files directory just because you tried to mouse 
over a directory and rename it).

>
> I'm a fan of Microsoft's mice because the devices in its Explorer range
> are nice and big, just like my hands (Logitech's rodents tend to be
> smaller).  But nearly all the Microsoft mice available on Amazon.co.uk
> are wireless.  Ditto for my other favourite site, dabs.co.uk.  A quick
> excursion to Microsoft's corporate Mouse site reveals that, yes indeed,
> all the latest Explorer mice are wireless.

The bluetooth desktop (mouth and keyboard) are very nice, I think you'd like 
them. But they are pricey.

>
> Despite finding the concept of an stationary, yet wireless device deeply
> crazy, I might just buy a wireless mouse and have done with it...life's
> just too short.  But I think having to replace batteries every 6 months
> would get right on my nerves.

IIRC its got a basestation you mount it on when you aren't using it that 
recharges it.

-Riyad

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RE: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??

2004-04-23 Thread Barett McGavock
I agree with you 100% and share your concerns about the wireless mice. I am
shopping for a non-wireless mouse for myself, as well. I'm looking at
products in stores from both Microsoft and Logitech that are not wireless. I
presume that these are not the newest-out products.

B

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> From: bOOyah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [VERY OT] Wireless Mice...what gives??
> 
> 
> It's Friday.
> 
> I need to buy a replacement for my borked Intellimouse 
> Explorer.  It's starting to issue double-click events, 
> which is pretty disconcerting. At least, I _hope_ it's 
> my mouse, otherwise my RSI has taken a nasty turn for 
> the worse.
> 
> I'm a fan of Microsoft's mice because the devices in its 
> Explorer range are nice and big, just like my hands 
> (Logitech's rodents tend to be smaller).  But nearly all 
> the Microsoft mice available on Amazon.co.uk are wireless. 
> Ditto for my other favourite site, dabs.co.uk.  A quick 
> excursion to Microsoft's corporate Mouse site reveals that, 
> yes indeed, all the latest Explorer mice are wireless.
> 
> Despite finding the concept of an stationary, yet wireless 
> device deeply crazy, I might just buy a wireless mouse and 
> have done with it...life's just too short.  But I think 
> having to replace batteries every 6 months would get right 
> on my nerves.
> 
> Any opinions?  Does replacing the batteries in your wireless 
> mouse or keyboard drive you nuts?  Are there real advantages 
> to using a wireless input device that I just cannot see?

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