RE: Book recommendations for performance tuning
Great suggestion -- thanks to both of you! JProbe is one of the other tools we were considering anyway, so it could be very useful to have a comparison handy. I'll take a look! Chris -Original Message- From: Ed Griebel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 9:08 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Book recommendations for performance tuning I'd second that book recommendation. I've read it and there's a lot of good tips in there. On 3/22/07, Karr, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One I like is "Pro Java EE 5 Performance Management and Optimization", > by Steven Haines. Note that Steven Haines is associated with Quest > Software and Jprobe (and related products). Although the book uses some > pictures from those products, it is not in any way a "veiled" ad for > those products. In the one section where he discusses actual products, > he clearly discloses his relationship, and gives a very even survey (not > really a review) of the products on the market. > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book recommendations for performance tuning
I'd second that book recommendation. I've read it and there's a lot of good tips in there. On 3/22/07, Karr, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One I like is "Pro Java EE 5 Performance Management and Optimization", by Steven Haines. Note that Steven Haines is associated with Quest Software and Jprobe (and related products). Although the book uses some pictures from those products, it is not in any way a "veiled" ad for those products. In the one section where he discusses actual products, he clearly discloses his relationship, and gives a very even survey (not really a review) of the products on the market. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book recommendations for performance tuning
Christopher, I think you should just start by measuring different layers of your application and different pathes the use cases go, and then start to think how to improve things that are slow. Blind performance tuning without knowing where the problem lies is the last thing that will help you. regards Leon On 3/21/07, Christopher Loschen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, I guess this is partially off-topic, but I've been asked to start looking at improving the performance of our application, and wanted to start reading up on things I should be looking for, techniques to improve performance, and so on. Our application has a pretty standard stack of J2EE, WebLogic, Oracle, Struts, JavaScript, plus some web services and SOAP, so I'm interested in any recommendations anyone has for any of those. I found one apparently classic text on "Oracle Performance Tuning" from O'Reilly (aka the "bee" book) but it's from 1996 and apparently hasn't been updated since, so I'm concerned that it's so out-of-date I wouldn't be able to use it. What would you recommend? Thanks! Chris Loschen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Book recommendations for performance tuning
One I like is "Pro Java EE 5 Performance Management and Optimization", by Steven Haines. Note that Steven Haines is associated with Quest Software and Jprobe (and related products). Although the book uses some pictures from those products, it is not in any way a "veiled" ad for those products. In the one section where he discusses actual products, he clearly discloses his relationship, and gives a very even survey (not really a review) of the products on the market. If you were actually looking at products, I'd say Jprofiler and Jprobe are definitely worth looking at, and probably YourKit, although I only briefly looked at it, compared to Jprofiler and Jprobe. > -Original Message- > From: Christopher Loschen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:10 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Book recommendations for performance tuning > > Hi all, > > I guess this is partially off-topic, but I've been asked to > start looking at improving the performance of our > application, and wanted to start reading up on things I > should be looking for, techniques to improve performance, and so on. > > Our application has a pretty standard stack of J2EE, > WebLogic, Oracle, Struts, JavaScript, plus some web services > and SOAP, so I'm interested in any recommendations anyone has > for any of those. I found one apparently classic text on > "Oracle Performance Tuning" from O'Reilly (aka the "bee" > book) but it's from 1996 and apparently hasn't been updated > since, so I'm concerned that it's so out-of-date I wouldn't > be able to use it. > > What would you recommend? Thanks! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Book recommendations for performance tuning
Good recommendation, thank you. We are proceeding on that front as well, as I should have mentioned. I think the plan is to use Optimize-It to do the profiling, though I've been trying out the TPTP modules for Eclipse as well and some other possibilities have also been floated. We've also got some code set up to simulate load -- I think we're starting with 200,000 devices and building up from there. What I meant to ask for was more along the lines of background, to further my general education and to help me do better with the data from the load generator and performance profiler when we work with them. Thanks, Chris -Original Message- From: Asthana, Rahul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 5:30 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Book recommendations for performance tuning Chris, I think before going for performance tuning you would have to decide on two things- A Load Generator and a Performance Profiler. Then you generate load and profile the application to find out exactly which layer\section of code\network needs to be tuned\upgraded. Then you focus on tuning of that particular section.You dont want to spend hours tuning Java code when the problem lies in a different layer. I find this prioritization of the object of tuning more important than the tuning itself, which in most cases is trivial. Thanks, Rahul -Original Message- From: Christopher Loschen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 5:10 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Book recommendations for performance tuning Hi all, I guess this is partially off-topic, but I've been asked to start looking at improving the performance of our application, and wanted to start reading up on things I should be looking for, techniques to improve performance, and so on. Our application has a pretty standard stack of J2EE, WebLogic, Oracle, Struts, JavaScript, plus some web services and SOAP, so I'm interested in any recommendations anyone has for any of those. I found one apparently classic text on "Oracle Performance Tuning" from O'Reilly (aka the "bee" book) but it's from 1996 and apparently hasn't been updated since, so I'm concerned that it's so out-of-date I wouldn't be able to use it. What would you recommend? Thanks! Chris Loschen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Book recommendations for performance tuning
Chris, I think before going for performance tuning you would have to decide on two things- A Load Generator and a Performance Profiler. Then you generate load and profile the application to find out exactly which layer\section of code\network needs to be tuned\upgraded. Then you focus on tuning of that particular section.You dont want to spend hours tuning Java code when the problem lies in a different layer. I find this prioritization of the object of tuning more important than the tuning itself, which in most cases is trivial. Thanks, Rahul -Original Message- From: Christopher Loschen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 5:10 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Book recommendations for performance tuning Hi all, I guess this is partially off-topic, but I've been asked to start looking at improving the performance of our application, and wanted to start reading up on things I should be looking for, techniques to improve performance, and so on. Our application has a pretty standard stack of J2EE, WebLogic, Oracle, Struts, JavaScript, plus some web services and SOAP, so I'm interested in any recommendations anyone has for any of those. I found one apparently classic text on "Oracle Performance Tuning" from O'Reilly (aka the "bee" book) but it's from 1996 and apparently hasn't been updated since, so I'm concerned that it's so out-of-date I wouldn't be able to use it. What would you recommend? Thanks! Chris Loschen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book Recommendations
Ted Husted Struts in Action http://www.manning.com/husted -martin - Original Message - From: "Davis, Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:42 AM Subject: Book Recommendations > Hi All, > > I am looking for a good Struts book. Does anyone have any recommendations? > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > Kind Regards, > Nick > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book Recommendations
A few months ago I was thrown into the deep end on an urgent Struts-based project with a VERY tight deadline. To help me get up to speed ASAP, I bought and read/used these three books during that time: 1) Pro Jakarta Struts, Second Edition by John Carnell, Rob Harrop 2) Programming Jakarta Struts by Chuck Cavaness 3) Struts In Action by Ted Husted, et al Having used them all "in anger", in summary, my opinion is that the first of these is the best, by a mile. The other two are flawed: Programming Jakarta Struts is a very good introduction, has a great structure and index, but it is a bit "shallow"; "Struts In Action" has a lot of excellent detail, but an "esoteric" layout and an almost-useless index (and unfortunately is littered with typos). Whereas Pro Jakarta Struts has an excellent and comprehensive layout, a more-than-intermediate-level of detail and an excellent index. Numerous times it was the only book of the three that had the answers to the questions I had as a newbie, and then some. It also takes a "best practices/patterns" approach and provides excellent, real-world examples. Cheers, Frank. - Original Message - From: "Davis, Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 4:06 PM Subject: Book Recommendations > Hi All, > > I am looking for a good Struts book. Does anyone have any recommendations? > > -Nick > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book Recommendations
I highly recommend this one: Struts Survival Guide: Basics to Best Practices http://www.programming-reviews.com/Struts_Survival_Guide_Basics_to_Best_Practices_0974848808.html - to the point - practical - advanced stuff-galore HTH, James http://www.devbistro.com -- web dev jobs --- "Davis, Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I am looking for a good Struts book. Does anyone > have any recommendations? > > -Nick > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Book Recommendations
I have two "go-to" books. Struts in Action, which has many wonderful pieces, especially tiles, the intricacies of the Struts-config file and some other goodies (feel free to ignore the chapters involving Scaffold and lucene -- both good technologies but the code samples are kinda weak). The Orielly book is also very good in that it really gets under the covers with Struts. One of the "missing pieces" for Struts has been recipes for "how to do" certain specific things. In a shameless attempt at self-promotion, George Franciscus and I have written "Struts Recipes" which is in final edit right now and will be published by Manning this summer. Danilo Gurovich Manager, Web Development LowerMyBills.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2401 Colorado Ave., 2nd Floor Santa Monica, CA 90404 (310) 998-6412 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book recommendations
I would suggest Struts , the complete reference by James Holmes. It is incredibly clearly laid out and has a section on JSTL as well. It is good as both an introduction and a reference. Out of the last 5 tech books that I have bought ( not including J2EE design and Development by Rod Johnson) it is the only one worth the paper it was printed on. --b Davis, Nick wrote: Hi All, I am looking for a good Struts book. Does anyone have any recommendations? -Nick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Book recommendations
Struts In Action My 2 c - marco -Original Message- From: Davis, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 July 2004 15:39 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: Book recommendations Hi All, I am looking for a good Struts book. Does anyone have any recommendations? -Nick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Book recommendations
The corner stone of most struts developers on this list is a copy of 'struts in action' by Ted Husted published by Manning. A typical example on how you could use struts would be 'programming jakarta struts' by Chuck Cavaness and published by O'Reilly. I would read them in that order too. -Original Message- From: Davis, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 July 2004 15:39 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: Book recommendations Hi All, I am looking for a good Struts book. Does anyone have any recommendations? -Nick *** This e-mail and its attachments are confidential and are intended for the above named recipient only. If this has come to you in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. You must take no action based on this, nor must you copy or disclose it or any part of its contents to any person or organisation. Statements and opinions contained in this email may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods. Please note that e-mail communications may be monitored. The registered office of Littlewoods Limited and its subsidiaries is 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB. Registered number of Littlewoods Limited is 262152. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book recommendations
Jakarta Struts, Chuck Cavaness, O'Reilly "Davis, Nick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/07/2004 15:39 Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List" To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:Book recommendations Hi All, I am looking for a good Struts book. Does anyone have any recommendations? -Nick - The information in this e-mail is confidential. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any review, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited.
