RE: Date UI
Yes, I agree Javascript is at times a necessary evil. My current strategy is to rely on it as little as possible and only in situations where is does not form a structural part of the app. If someone is using a browser without Javascript support or with it turned off I need to have the app still usable. I guess that just means I am using it for bells and whistles. A date picker for example is OK but only if the plain text input is still on the page and does not depend on the script to work. You of course have to have good validity checking in the backend whether there is script or not. To give you some background, my aversion to using Javascript comes from having been forced to work on an app recently which totally depends upon Javascript for pretty much everything that is done. Every single link and form was being handled by generated scripts in each page. The resulting pages were twice the size of straight HTML, almost unreadable and if you were not using the right browser and version chances are the whole thing fell down around you. Nasty! A good example of what not to do for my way of thinking. Having had this general dislike of Javascript for a good number of years however I would like to say that the sophistication of an HTML only front-end can be pretty damn good. I have some lovely hierarchical trees (expand and contract branches etc), calendar representations etc that are completely server based with zero script on the client. It takes a bit of imagination but you can have a damn nice UI without a lot of JS. flame-retardant I'll hold off looking for a new career path just yet. /flame-retardant Regards Marty -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2005 2:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Date UI On 07/06/05 12:55nbsp;Larry Meadors wrote: I am generally allergic to Javascript which I guess limits what can be done with fancy pop-up pickers. Am open to suggestions should there be a nice robust script out there I guess. flame-retardant Get over it. Like it or not, JavaScript is here to stay. Anyone who looks at any modern framework (including Struts, JSF, and .net) and says Ew, JavaScript... should consider a new career path. Sorry, but it is just a fact of life, get used to it. /flame-retardant Yes sure but just make sure you don't make javascript mandatory for the user - because surfers will always use browsers (e.g. PDA, linux console) that don't do javascript. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Date UI
The Validator module gives you automatic date validation according to your chosen date format, configured in an xml file on a per-form basis. Adam On 07/06/05 06:13nbsp;Martin Ravell wrote: Hi all, Having just joined the list I am unaware if this topic has been done to death already but I was wondering what were peoples views on handling date input with Struts? I'm scanning archives right now and don't see it come up too often. If this is a little OT then please flame me. (Just kidding) Perhaps there are taglib discussion lists or jsp groups that I would be better off asking? If however you are willing to throw in your $0.02 worth please respond to either this address or the list. I will of course summarize and post back to Struts User. Are there favourite taglibs out there which are good for Dates? Do you split your dates into day, month and year fields in your HTML? How do you find is the best way to validate? I am generally allergic to Javascript which I guess limits what can be done with fancy pop-up pickers. Am open to suggestions should there be a nice robust script out there I guess. Regards Marty - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Date UI
On 6/6/05, Martin Ravell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you split your dates into day, month and year fields in your HTML? No, as a user this is the most irritating UI that I can imagine for date input. How do you find is the best way to validate? I use a String property for the field, then parse it into an internal Date property. If the date does not parse, I keep the bad date in the string so I can give it back to the user to correct. I am generally allergic to Javascript which I guess limits what can be done with fancy pop-up pickers. Am open to suggestions should there be a nice robust script out there I guess. flame-retardant Get over it. Like it or not, JavaScript is here to stay. Anyone who looks at any modern framework (including Struts, JSF, and .net) and says Ew, JavaScript... should consider a new career path. Sorry, but it is just a fact of life, get used to it. /flame-retardant That said, there are some *amazing* and free date selection javascripts out there: http://www.softcomplex.com/products/tigra_calendar/ http://www.fuzzywebmaster.com/java-scripts/date-java-picker-script.html http://tinyurl.com/apmet Larry - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Date UI
On 07/06/05 12:55nbsp;Larry Meadors wrote: I am generally allergic to Javascript which I guess limits what can be done with fancy pop-up pickers. Am open to suggestions should there be a nice robust script out there I guess. flame-retardant Get over it. Like it or not, JavaScript is here to stay. Anyone who looks at any modern framework (including Struts, JSF, and .net) and says Ew, JavaScript... should consider a new career path. Sorry, but it is just a fact of life, get used to it. /flame-retardant Yes sure but just make sure you don't make javascript mandatory for the user - because surfers will always use browsers (e.g. PDA, linux console) that don't do javascript. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
