Re: Struts + Spring or Struts versus Spring

2005-03-31 Thread Ted Husted
+1 for Pro Spring. Soup to Nuts. Well done.

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:31:52 -0500, Fumo, Vince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Don't know if it's appropriate to do this, but I am adding my 2c as well.
> I've been using Spring and Hibernate with Struts for some time now and have
> found it to be excellent. If you are the book type, there is a very good
> book on Spring from Apress titled "Pro Spring" that covers the entire
> framework quite well.

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Re: Struts + Spring or Struts versus Spring

2005-03-30 Thread Matt Raible
On Mar 30, 2005, at 5:35 AM, Ted Husted wrote:
Spring is a large project with several components. The Spring Core
works just fine with Struts. You can use it to instantiate your
business objects from Struts Actions.
Aside from Spring Core, the Spring project also includes a Spring MVC
component. Spring MVC does overlap with Struts. Spring MVC is a fine
framework. Use whichever one works best for you.
Yes, Struts + Spring + hibernate (or iBATIS) is an excellent approach.

If you'd like to see some sample apps that use Struts + Spring + 
Hibernate (or iBATIS), checkout AppFuse or Equinox (a.k.a. AppFuse 
Light).

http://appfuse.dev.java.net
http://equinox.dev.java.net
For a tutorial of developing a Struts + Spring + Hibernate application, 
you can checkout the Sample Chapter from Spring Live 
(http://www.springlive.com).


;-)
Matt

-Ted.
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:22:00 +0200, Rodolfo García Esteban/CYII
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
I have been reading about frameworks and I have seen something about
Spring, and I have a lot of doubts. Spring is complementary or is then
same place?. In some places said that Spring is complementary thats
threats about the middle tier, but I have seen some examples and 
Spring
replaces the action servlet and has his own Controller. What do you 
think
Spring is compatible with Struts?, is better Struts than Spring? is 
better
Spring. Do you think the solution Struts + Spring + hibernate could 
be a
good approach?

Best Regards

Rodolfo
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RE: Struts + Spring or Struts versus Spring

2005-03-30 Thread Fumo, Vince
Don't know if it's appropriate to do this, but I am adding my 2c as well.
I've been using Spring and Hibernate with Struts for some time now and have
found it to be excellent. If you are the book type, there is a very good
book on Spring from Apress titled "Pro Spring" that covers the entire
framework quite well. 

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From: Joe Germuska [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:40 AM
To: Ted Husted; Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Struts + Spring or Struts versus Spring


In short, what Ted said.

More elaborately, I've been using Spring with a 
lot of Struts web apps, and I'm very happy with 
the combination.  Spring does a whole lot more 
than Struts ever wanted to do, and you can use as 
much or as little of it as you like.

And even though Spring MVC exists as a 
self-contained webapp framework, they also have 
some nice Struts-specific support, including base 
Action classes which are aware of Spring and 
going as far as an alternate RequestProcessor 
which supports using Spring as an Action factory 
where the Actions it creates are "wired" with 
references to your business expert 
"collaborators".

http://www.springframework.org/docs/api_1.2/org/springframework/web/struts/p
ackage-summary.html

The Spring WebFlow project also looks promising. 
This too comes with some Struts support.
http://www.theserverside.com/common/printthread.tss?thread_id=32676
http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/spring/display/WEBFLOW/Home

Joe


At 7:35 AM -0500 3/30/05, Ted Husted wrote:
>Spring is a large project with several components. The Spring Core
>works just fine with Struts. You can use it to instantiate your
>business objects from Struts Actions.
>
>Aside from Spring Core, the Spring project also includes a Spring MVC
>component. Spring MVC does overlap with Struts. Spring MVC is a fine
>framework. Use whichever one works best for you.
>
>Yes, Struts + Spring + hibernate (or iBATIS) is an excellent approach.
>
>-Ted.
>
>
>On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:22:00 +0200, Rodolfo García Esteban/CYII
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  Hi,
>>
>>  I have been reading about frameworks and I have seen something about
>>  Spring, and I have a lot of doubts. Spring is complementary or is then
>>  same place?. In some places said that Spring is complementary thats
>>  threats about the middle tier, but I have seen some examples and Spring
>>  replaces the action servlet and has his own Controller. What do you
think
>>  Spring is compatible with Struts?, is better Struts than Spring? is
better
>>  Spring. Do you think the solution Struts + Spring + hibernate could be a
>>  good approach?
>>
>>  Best Regards
>>  
>>  Rodolfo
>
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Re: Struts + Spring or Struts versus Spring

2005-03-30 Thread Joe Germuska
In short, what Ted said.
More elaborately, I've been using Spring with a 
lot of Struts web apps, and I'm very happy with 
the combination.  Spring does a whole lot more 
than Struts ever wanted to do, and you can use as 
much or as little of it as you like.

And even though Spring MVC exists as a 
self-contained webapp framework, they also have 
some nice Struts-specific support, including base 
Action classes which are aware of Spring and 
going as far as an alternate RequestProcessor 
which supports using Spring as an Action factory 
where the Actions it creates are "wired" with 
references to your business expert 
"collaborators".

http://www.springframework.org/docs/api_1.2/org/springframework/web/struts/package-summary.html
The Spring WebFlow project also looks promising. 
This too comes with some Struts support.
http://www.theserverside.com/common/printthread.tss?thread_id=32676
http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/spring/display/WEBFLOW/Home

Joe
At 7:35 AM -0500 3/30/05, Ted Husted wrote:
Spring is a large project with several components. The Spring Core
works just fine with Struts. You can use it to instantiate your
business objects from Struts Actions.
Aside from Spring Core, the Spring project also includes a Spring MVC
component. Spring MVC does overlap with Struts. Spring MVC is a fine
framework. Use whichever one works best for you.
Yes, Struts + Spring + hibernate (or iBATIS) is an excellent approach.
-Ted.
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:22:00 +0200, Rodolfo García Esteban/CYII
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Hi,
 I have been reading about frameworks and I have seen something about
 Spring, and I have a lot of doubts. Spring is complementary or is then
 same place?. In some places said that Spring is complementary thats
 threats about the middle tier, but I have seen some examples and Spring
 replaces the action servlet and has his own Controller. What do you think
 Spring is compatible with Struts?, is better Struts than Spring? is better
 Spring. Do you think the solution Struts + Spring + hibernate could be a
 good approach?
 Best Regards
 
 Rodolfo
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Re: Struts + Spring or Struts versus Spring

2005-03-30 Thread Ted Husted
Spring is a large project with several components. The Spring Core
works just fine with Struts. You can use it to instantiate your
business objects from Struts Actions.

Aside from Spring Core, the Spring project also includes a Spring MVC
component. Spring MVC does overlap with Struts. Spring MVC is a fine
framework. Use whichever one works best for you.

Yes, Struts + Spring + hibernate (or iBATIS) is an excellent approach. 

-Ted.


On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:22:00 +0200, Rodolfo García Esteban/CYII
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have been reading about frameworks and I have seen something about
> Spring, and I have a lot of doubts. Spring is complementary or is then
> same place?. In some places said that Spring is complementary thats
> threats about the middle tier, but I have seen some examples and Spring
> replaces the action servlet and has his own Controller. What do you think
> Spring is compatible with Struts?, is better Struts than Spring? is better
> Spring. Do you think the solution Struts + Spring + hibernate could be a
> good approach?
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Rodolfo

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