Re: Shale timeline
On 11/4/05, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a very good write-up somewhere on the Apache site about how releases work, can't find it now, sorry. * http://struts.apache.org/helping.html#release -T. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: Shale timeline
Thanks, Ted that's really good! I quote that when someone asks me. I forward that to my boss too :-) Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. November 2005 12:08 An: Struts Users Mailing List Betreff: Re: Shale timeline On 11/4/05, Rahul Akolkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a very good write-up somewhere on the Apache site about how releases work, can't find it now, sorry. * http://struts.apache.org/helping.html#release -T. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shale timeline
On 11/3/05, Craig McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ the dev list) on a grade. That being said, I would *not* assume 1.0.0 would be anything other than an alpha. This is not necessarily an issue about quality, it's more about API stability. I don't want to lock down quite everything yet, until people have had a chance to try things out. snap/ I know we've spent few cycles deciding names/version numbers recently, so I'm not going to dwell on this beyond this email, but given the above, would you consider a 0.1.0 (or 0.5.0) first release? That, atleast in my mind, is more along the lines of your statement above and conveys not wanting to lock down just yet very well. I'd like to see a Shale release too, don't get me otherwise. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shale timeline
On 11/3/05, Bernhard Slominski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Craig, thanks a lot for the answer, that's really helpful! Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. November 2005 17:57 As far as I'm concerned, the feature work I wanted to see for a 1.0.0release is complete You don't want to come up with a specific date, do you? snip/ There is a very good write-up somewhere on the Apache site about how releases work, can't find it now, sorry. In a nutshell, there are no dates (the process is driven by volunteers having enough time to finish up the tasks leading to a release). Also, I do not speak for the Struts Shale team, this is a broader comment. -Rahul - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: Shale timeline
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Rahul Akolkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 4. November 2005 17:55 As far as I'm concerned, the feature work I wanted to see for a 1.0.0release is complete In a nutshell, there are no dates (the process is driven by volunteers having enough time to finish up the tasks leading to a release). Also, I do not speak for the Struts Shale team, this is a broader comment. -Rahul Rahul, thanks for the answer. I see this point and it's propably better not to specify any dates, than conitiously postponing. It was just a (nice) try, because that's what people always asking first, but I think I can give them some useful information with the answers from you and Craig. Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shale timeline
Hi, does anyone know when the first release 1.0 of struts shale is expected? Are there any other milestone dates like alpha, beta versions? Thanks Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shale timeline
On 11/3/05, Bernhard Slominski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, does anyone know when the first release 1.0 of struts shale is expected? Are there any other milestone dates like alpha, beta versions? As far as I'm concerned, the feature work I wanted to see for a 1.0.0release is complete -- it's primarily a matter of being in-country long enough to go through the release process. I've also got some back-of-the-envelope roadmap notes that I need to put up on the wiki talking about future feature directions. As far as releases themselves go, the thinking is to use the same release model that Struts 1.x (and other projects like Tomcat) do ... an x.y.zrelease that is not pre-graded with a quality moniker (alpha, beta, general release), followed by a chance to get feedback and retroactively vote (on the dev list) on a grade. That being said, I would *not* assume 1.0.0 would be anything other than an alpha. This is not necessarily an issue about quality, it's more about API stability. I don't want to lock down quite everything yet, until people have had a chance to try things out. That being said, one habit I want to follow in Shale is provide feedback to developers on what expectations they *should* have about API stability in individual packages. This information is summarized in the Package Overview page for the core library: http://people.apache.org/~craigmcc/shale-core-javadocs/overview-summary.html Along with an indication of whether the functionality in that package is targeted at application developers, or at people who want to extend the framework itself. Thanks Bernhard Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: Shale timeline
Hi Craig, thanks a lot for the answer, that's really helpful! Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. November 2005 17:57 As far as I'm concerned, the feature work I wanted to see for a 1.0.0release is complete You don't want to come up with a specific date, do you? Well I guess everyone understands this because we all were missing promisied target dates in our development life I guess :-) But on the other hand that's what the people want to know, WHEN can I have it? (I have to make a presentation about shale) This information is summarized in the Package Overview page for the core library: http://people.apache.org/~craigmcc/shale-core-javadocs/overview-summary.html That provides really useful information! Thanks again Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
