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3Q 赵涛 2014-10-31 aix.niuy 发件人：赵涛 zhaotao...@qq.com 发送时间：2014-10-31 14:56 主题：回复： systemvm64template-2014-09-24-4.3-kvm.qcow2.bz2 模板root密码 收件人：users-cnusers-cn@cloudstack.apache.org 抄送： password -- 原始邮件 -- 发件人: aix.niuy;aix.n...@gmail.com; 发送时间: 2014年10月31日(星期五) 下午2:55 收件人: users-cnusers-cn@cloudstack.apache.org; 主题: systemvm64template-2014-09-24-4.3-kvm.qcow2.bz2 模板root密码 官网下载的系统模板密码是什么？ root/6m1ll10n 试过了 不好使了 http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/systemvm/4.3/systemvm64template-2014-09-24-4.3-kvm.qcow2.bz2 有知道的朋友告诉下 谢谢 2014-10-31 aix.niuy
答复: systemvm64template-2014-09-24-4.3-kvm.qcow2.bz2 模板root密码
试试 root/password -邮件原件- 发件人: aix.niuy [mailto:aix.n...@gmail.com] 发送时间: 2014年10月31日 14:56 收件人: users-cn 主题: systemvm64template-2014-09-24-4.3-kvm.qcow2.bz2 模板root密码 官网下载的系统模板密码是什么？ root/6m1ll10n 试过了 不好使了 http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/systemvm/4.3/systemvm64template-2014-09-24-4.3-kvm.qcow2.bz2 有知道的朋友告诉下 谢谢 2014-10-31 aix.niuy --- Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying attachment(s) is intended only for the use of the intended recipient and may be confidential and/or privileged of Neusoft Corporation, its subsidiaries and/or its affiliates. If any reader of this communication is not the intended recipient, unauthorized use, forwarding, printing, storing, disclosure or copying is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful.If you have received this communication in error,please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail, and delete the original message and all copies from your system. Thank you. ---
RE: XenServer
Hi all, Wish to participate at this holly war as well :) I am using KVM for hosting managment servers and other infrastructure that is outside of the cloud and XenServer 6.2 for cloud hosts. 1. Snapshotting : were problems with old version of virsh/qemu, but for 1.2.2/2.0 snapshotting is working just fine. Slower than XenSererver does it, but still OK. IMHO snapshotting at KVM a bit more complicted: you should consider if it is a image snapshot or live snapshot, qcow2 or raw, etc. 2. Cloning VM-s at KVM also requre more steps to produce. XenServer is much simpler. 3. XenServer has XAPI and everything you need you do using xe command interface. Doesn't need CS agent, but this external vhd-util that you need to copy and keep an eye on it makes a scar on ideal picture. 4. XenServer has support for vGPU/pGPU and Cloudstack has implemented it's management. No option if you wish to provide GPU-enabled resources. 5. KVM has nice tools to re-size Linux OS images together with extending FS. It is also aware of HDD partitions. Nice option that we used. Also it is possible to deploy diffrent external tools (like vm-builder) to automate installation of software for OS and set-up different options (users, root password, etc.) 6. KVM has RBD and supports Ceph. We have targeted for this storage type as it offers block storage and object storage at the same time. It is probably not yet ready for production, but seems very promissing. As a result - I really like both hypervisors for their strong sides :). Will repeat Nux! words -- make one hypervisor work for you. Don't try to find the best one - because there is no silver bullet. Don't be afraid to have a zoo of technologies. Cloud is aready a Zoo, but as far as you control it and know it -- you are fine. And the bigger the Zoo -- the more animals you can show to you clients ! :) Good luck ! Vadim. -Original Message- From: Nux! [mailto:n...@li.nux.ro] Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 1:25 AM To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: XenServer Andrei, I am hopeful the next incarnation of XenServer will be much better/modern, with support for CEPH, GlusterFS etc. Re KVM snapshotting, KVM can do live snapshots of the volumes+memory (you can do it with virsh), but ACS doesn't support it; forgot why. Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 21:24:06 Subject: Re: XenServer I would happily switch to XenServer once they will have ceph support. I do prefer XenServer and the feature list of ACS + XenServer is a bit better. It sucks not having proper snapshotting in KVM where one can create the whole vm snapshot (volumes + memory) very quickly without the need to bother snapshotting every volume and wait for ages. Andrei - Original Message - From: motty cruz motty.c...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:43:32 PM Subject: Re: XenServer I am no expert by any means but my personal opinion, I really like XenServer a lot better. I have a cluster of about 5 machines running KVM, ACS 4.3. I unable to do snapshot, migrating VMs from one host to another takes a long time. I had a very bad experience with Balloon driver, I am traumatize using KVM. XenServer don't need to install cloudstack agent is already integrated. I am very happy with XenServer. I still need to work out a few lingering issues but thus far am a happy person. Thanks, -Motty On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: I wold love to see the ability to do proper snapshotting on KVM. XenServer does it so much better! - Original Message - From: Vladimir Melnik v.mel...@uplink.ua To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:09:17 PM Subject: RE: XenServer Oh, thank you so much, folks, for your replies on this topic! Now I understand that I shouldn't migrate to XenServer, as I already have a bunch of hosts running KVM and it really won't be a good idea to bread such a zoo. The only thing that makes me feel envy is an ability to change configuration of a virtual machine without restarting it. As I know, KVM doesn't support it yet, am I right? Other XenServer features don't seem to be so exciting to me :) One more time - thanks to all who have helped me to decide not to do something that I would regret. Best regards, V. -- Thanks for your support, Motty
Re: How change default System Offering For Software Router?
It should be, yes. BTW the link you sent - it's changing existing VR offering... To make another system offering a DEFAUTL offering, use the stuff explained here: http://cloudstack-administration.readthedocs.org/en/latest/service_offerings.html#changing-the-default-system-offering-for-system-vms Best On 30 October 2014 23:28, Hollman Enciso R. hollman.enc...@gmail.com wrote: I have CS 4.3. it's the same for this version ? I found this manual http://support.citrix.com/article/CTX138049 On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote: There are some database changes needed - please check admin guide for ACS 4.2... On 30 October 2014 22:32, Hollman Enciso R. hollman.enc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, i'm trying to change the default system offering for software routers with more ram and some tags for the storage. i create a new system service offering for software router; Now i wanna set as default, how can i do that ? I tried to delete the delete the System Offering For Software Router but i obtain an error: Default service offerings cannot be deleted any idea ? thanks -- Hollman Eduardo Enciso R. http://algolibre.com @hollman -- Andrija Panić -- http://admintweets.com -- -- Hollman Eduardo Enciso R. http://algolibre.com @hollman -- Andrija Panić -- http://admintweets.com --
Re: XenServer
Is there a feature request for this support or should we open one? I would like to see this implemented for KVM. Andrei - Original Message - From: Nux! n...@li.nux.ro To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 11:25:10 PM Subject: Re: XenServer Andrei, I am hopeful the next incarnation of XenServer will be much better/modern, with support for CEPH, GlusterFS etc. Re KVM snapshotting, KVM can do live snapshots of the volumes+memory (you can do it with virsh), but ACS doesn't support it; forgot why. Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 21:24:06 Subject: Re: XenServer I would happily switch to XenServer once they will have ceph support. I do prefer XenServer and the feature list of ACS + XenServer is a bit better. It sucks not having proper snapshotting in KVM where one can create the whole vm snapshot (volumes + memory) very quickly without the need to bother snapshotting every volume and wait for ages. Andrei - Original Message - From: motty cruz motty.c...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:43:32 PM Subject: Re: XenServer I am no expert by any means but my personal opinion, I really like XenServer a lot better. I have a cluster of about 5 machines running KVM, ACS 4.3. I unable to do snapshot, migrating VMs from one host to another takes a long time. I had a very bad experience with Balloon driver, I am traumatize using KVM. XenServer don't need to install cloudstack agent is already integrated. I am very happy with XenServer. I still need to work out a few lingering issues but thus far am a happy person. Thanks, -Motty On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: I wold love to see the ability to do proper snapshotting on KVM. XenServer does it so much better! - Original Message - From: Vladimir Melnik v.mel...@uplink.ua To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:09:17 PM Subject: RE: XenServer Oh, thank you so much, folks, for your replies on this topic! Now I understand that I shouldn't migrate to XenServer, as I already have a bunch of hosts running KVM and it really won't be a good idea to bread such a zoo. The only thing that makes me feel envy is an ability to change configuration of a virtual machine without restarting it. As I know, KVM doesn't support it yet, am I right? Other XenServer features don't seem to be so exciting to me :) One more time - thanks to all who have helped me to decide not to do something that I would regret. Best regards, V. -- Thanks for your support, Motty
Re: XenServer
My vote also for KVM snapshooting - having all the nice fetaures, but without basic virtualization stuff like snapshotting - it simply drives me and our client nuts... On 31 October 2014 10:03, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: Is there a feature request for this support or should we open one? I would like to see this implemented for KVM. Andrei - Original Message - From: Nux! n...@li.nux.ro To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 11:25:10 PM Subject: Re: XenServer Andrei, I am hopeful the next incarnation of XenServer will be much better/modern, with support for CEPH, GlusterFS etc. Re KVM snapshotting, KVM can do live snapshots of the volumes+memory (you can do it with virsh), but ACS doesn't support it; forgot why. Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 21:24:06 Subject: Re: XenServer I would happily switch to XenServer once they will have ceph support. I do prefer XenServer and the feature list of ACS + XenServer is a bit better. It sucks not having proper snapshotting in KVM where one can create the whole vm snapshot (volumes + memory) very quickly without the need to bother snapshotting every volume and wait for ages. Andrei - Original Message - From: motty cruz motty.c...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:43:32 PM Subject: Re: XenServer I am no expert by any means but my personal opinion, I really like XenServer a lot better. I have a cluster of about 5 machines running KVM, ACS 4.3. I unable to do snapshot, migrating VMs from one host to another takes a long time. I had a very bad experience with Balloon driver, I am traumatize using KVM. XenServer don't need to install cloudstack agent is already integrated. I am very happy with XenServer. I still need to work out a few lingering issues but thus far am a happy person. Thanks, -Motty On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: I wold love to see the ability to do proper snapshotting on KVM. XenServer does it so much better! - Original Message - From: Vladimir Melnik v.mel...@uplink.ua To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:09:17 PM Subject: RE: XenServer Oh, thank you so much, folks, for your replies on this topic! Now I understand that I shouldn't migrate to XenServer, as I already have a bunch of hosts running KVM and it really won't be a good idea to bread such a zoo. The only thing that makes me feel envy is an ability to change configuration of a virtual machine without restarting it. As I know, KVM doesn't support it yet, am I right? Other XenServer features don't seem to be so exciting to me :) One more time - thanks to all who have helped me to decide not to do something that I would regret. Best regards, V. -- Thanks for your support, Motty -- Andrija Panić -- http://admintweets.com --
Re: ACS 4.4.1 DEB Packages not yet available?
Wido, could you point me to some info how you built your packages? If you could benefit from assistance and/or availability of build environments, just leave me a note. I would be happy to help :) - Stephan Am Donnerstag, den 30.10.2014, 16:18 +0100 schrieb Wido den Hollander: On 10/30/2014 11:04 AM, Daan Hoogland wrote: I think we mist that, Stephan. Sorry about that. Wido, can you create them? Yes. But currently my internet connection isn't the best where I am, so it will take some time. Wido thanks, On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Stephan Seitz s.se...@secretresearchfacility.com wrote: Hi! after reading the 4.4.0 - 4.4.1-thread on the list, I think I'm prepared for an Update. Running the management-node on Ubuntu 14.04 and following the documented update procedure (which leads to something easy as apt-get upgrade), I've noticed that there are no packages for 4.4.1 available at http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/ubuntu/dists/trusty/4.4/ Did I miss something? Or is it just not released yet? cheers, - Stephan
AW: The IP is already used as SourceNat rather than PortForwarding
Hi! Thanks for the hint, after creating an otherwise identical offering but with conserve mode on, I was able to configure the portforwarding. But it did not work yet. After creating one more offering, but with VirtualRouter instead of Ovs for Port Forwarding, the port forwarding finally works. So thank you very much for saving my weekend so far ;) But I wonder: - why do I have to enable conserve mode (which as far as I understand just defers configuring the GRE tunnels and starting the virtual router until the first instance needs them)? - Why won't the portforwarding work with the Ovs provider? I followed this documentation: http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/en/latest/networking/ovs-plugin.html which instructed me to use Ovs. - the GRE tunnels still use my storage network instead of the configured guest network on my xenservers (I wrote an email to the list yesterday regarding that) Any Ideas? Thanks again, Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Sanjeev Neelarapu [mailto:sanjeev.neelar...@citrix.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 31. Oktober 2014 05:00 An: users@cloudstack.apache.org Betreff: RE: The IP is already used as SourceNat rather than PortForwarding Hi Martin, Are you trying to configure PF on SourceNAT IP address? If yes can you check whether the conserver mode is set to Yes in your network offering? -Sanjeev -Original Message- From: Martin Emrich [mailto:martin.emr...@empolis.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 6:26 PM To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: The IP is already used as SourceNat rather than PortForwarding Hi! I created an isolated network (with GRE) on Cloudstack 4.4.1. Then I tried to configure a port forwarding rule for SSH to an instance. But I get an error message is already used as SourceNat rather than PortForwarding. What am I doing wrong? Thanks Martin
Urgent! - agent can't connect
Hi guys,
I had managemetn server stoped for some time, started again - but after
that one of the agents can not connect.
I have enabled debug loging on agent:
Any help would be very appriciated...
2014-10-31 12:05:16,764 INFO [utils.nio.NioClient] (Agent-Selector:null)
Connecting to 10.0.0.1:8250
2014-10-31 12:05:16,851 INFO [utils.nio.NioClient] (Agent-Selector:null)
SSL: Handshake done
2014-10-31 12:05:16,851 INFO [utils.nio.NioClient] (Agent-Selector:null)
Connected to 10.0.0.1:8250
2014-10-31 12:05:16,857 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Detecting a new state but couldn't find a old state
so adding it to the changes: i-3-41-VM
2014-10-31 12:05:16,857 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Detecting a new state but couldn't find a old state
so adding it to the changes: i-3-39-VM
2014-10-31 12:05:16,857 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Detecting a new state but couldn't find a old state
so adding it to the changes: i-3-40-VM
2014-10-31 12:05:16,857 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Detecting a new state but couldn't find a old state
so adding it to the changes: s-28-VM
2014-10-31 12:05:16,872 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtCapXMLParser]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Found /usr/libexec/qemu-kvm as a suiteable emulator
2014-10-31 12:05:16,872 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Executing: /bin/bash -c qemu-img --help|grep convert
2014-10-31 12:05:16,876 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Execution is successful.
2014-10-31 12:05:16,876 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) convert [-c] [-p] [-f fmt] [-t cache] [-O
output_fmt] [-o options] [-S sparse_size] filename [filename2 [...]]
output_filename
2014-10-31 12:05:16,876 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) cpus=32, speed=3400, ram=27105792,
dom0ram=805306368, cpu sockets=1
2014-10-31 12:05:16,877 DEBUG [cloud.resource.ServerResourceBase]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Parameters for private nic: 10.0.5.18 -
c4:54:44:1e:35:af-255.255.255.0
2014-10-31 12:05:16,877 DEBUG [cloud.resource.ServerResourceBase]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Parameters for storage nic: 10.0.5.18 -
c4:54:44:1e:35:af-255.255.255.0
2014-10-31 12:05:16,877 DEBUG [cloud.resource.ServerResourceBase]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Parameters for pubic nic: 10.0.5.18 -
c4:54:44:1e:35:af-255.255.255.0
2014-10-31 12:05:16,877 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Executing:
/usr/share/cloudstack-common/scripts/vm/hypervisor/versions.sh
2014-10-31 12:05:16,885 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Execution is successful.
2014-10-31 12:05:16,892 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Executing: sudo grep InitiatorName=
/etc/iscsi/initiatorname.iscsi
2014-10-31 12:05:16,896 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Exit value is 1
2014-10-31 12:05:16,896 DEBUG [kvm.resource.LibvirtComputingResource]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) sudo: sorry, you must have a tty to run sudo
2014-10-31 12:05:16,897 DEBUG [kvm.storage.LibvirtStorageAdaptor]
(Agent-Handler-1:null) Found existing defined storage pool
234cb38b-afef-4554-a356-8c4f08fa7875, using it.
2014-10-31 12:05:16,901 DEBUG [cloud.agent.Agent] (Agent-Handler-1:null)
Executing: hostname
2014-10-31 12:05:16,902 DEBUG [cloud.agent.Agent] (Agent-Handler-1:null)
Execution is successful.
2014-10-31 12:05:16,902 DEBUG [cloud.agent.Agent] (Agent-Handler-1:null)
Executing: hostname
2014-10-31 12:05:16,903 DEBUG [cloud.agent.Agent] (Agent-Handler-1:null)
Execution is successful.
2014-10-31 12:05:16,905 DEBUG [cloud.agent.Agent] (Agent-Handler-1:null)
Sending Startup: Seq 0-56: { Cmd , MgmtId: -1, via: 0, Ver: v1, Flags: 1,
Integrate Cloudstack With Jclouds Issues
Hi, guys I wonder if anyone using jclouds to access cloudstack(4.2.1), I googled but found only a few documents but only a blog about example how accessing cloudstack version 2.2, and i don't know how to login into cloudstack to obtain other API --- Thanks, Yitao(依涛 姜) jiangyt.github.io
Re: Urgent! - agent can't connect
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote: DEBUG stupid question maybe but did you check the agent version against the ms version? -- Daan
Re: Urgent! - agent can't connect
no idea, needs investigation. network flakey? high latency? process on either side with low prio? You didn't find exceptions in the logs on either side did you? On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote: hm...yes, fresh install 4.4.1 from provided RPMs: cloudstack-agent-4.4.1-NONOSS_3.el6.x86_64 Same situation also happened, when I had to manually reboot one of the non-important host, without previously puting it into maintance.. AH - agent has just reconnected fineI don't beleive it...any issues on why this might happen ? On 31 October 2014 12:32, Daan Hoogland daan.hoogl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote: DEBUG stupid question maybe but did you check the agent version against the ms version? -- Daan -- Andrija Panić -- http://admintweets.com -- -- Daan
Re: Urgent! - agent can't connect
No, I did not...I really don't get it...network is 10GB in between, nothing special - no network issues really... There was only exception on management-server side with message that Agent is disconnecting...but nothing else. Ah... Thanks Daan for replies. On 31 October 2014 12:46, Daan Hoogland daan.hoogl...@gmail.com wrote: no idea, needs investigation. network flakey? high latency? process on either side with low prio? You didn't find exceptions in the logs on either side did you? On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote: hm...yes, fresh install 4.4.1 from provided RPMs: cloudstack-agent-4.4.1-NONOSS_3.el6.x86_64 Same situation also happened, when I had to manually reboot one of the non-important host, without previously puting it into maintance.. AH - agent has just reconnected fineI don't beleive it...any issues on why this might happen ? On 31 October 2014 12:32, Daan Hoogland daan.hoogl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote: DEBUG stupid question maybe but did you check the agent version against the ms version? -- Daan -- Andrija Panić -- http://admintweets.com -- -- Daan -- Andrija Panić -- http://admintweets.com --
RE: Status: update from 4.4.0 - 4.4.1 still broken ?
Monty, Thank you for tips. I have Ubuntu at my managment servers and packages are not yet ready. So I have to use shapeblue repository like this: file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cloudstack.list contains: deb http://packages.shapeblue.com/cloudstack/upstream/debian/4.4 ./ I also used this template http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/systemvm/4.4/systemvm64template-4.4.1-xen.vhd.bz2 And finally I have updated database with ALTER TABLE `snapshot_policy` ADD `display` TINYINT( 1 ) NOT NULL DEFAULT '1' After management server restart I was able to see management console and log-in into CS ! It seems DB update is vital for upgrade. Now I am updating system VM, but CS 4.4.1 is already usable. Thank you all ! Vadim. -Original Message- From: motty cruz [mailto:motty.c...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 7:00 PM To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: Status: update from 4.4.0 - 4.4.1 still broken ? HI PL, I upgrade my testing cluster for 3 times with bad results, until I manually updated the DB as Andrija suggested in this email. Thanks, Celso On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion pdion...@apache.org wrote: upgrading from 4.4.0 really required this manual db patch: ALTER TABLE `snapshot_policy` ADD `display` TINYINT( 1 ) NOT NULL DEFAULT '1' ? If so we will update the RN.. PL On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:29 PM, motty cruz motty.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vadim, I finally was able to upgrade successfully Cloudstack 4.4.0 to Cloudstack 4.4.1. I used this guider: http://cloudstack-release-notes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/upgrade/upgr ade-4.4.html Download System VMs from here: http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/systemvm/4.4/ I specifically used this: http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/systemvm/4.4/systemvm64template-4.4.1-xen .vhd.bz2 instead of the one suggested in the guide. Also, I executed the following two command: yum upgrade cloudstack-management once that finished successfully yum update (updates java) This also failed for me: nohup cloudstack-sysvmadm -d IPaddress -u cloud -p password -a sysvm.log 21 but I run that command any way: Also I log in to my database server: ALTER TABLE `snapshot_policy` ADD `display` TINYINT( 1 ) NOT NULL DEFAULT '1' restarted management server and all worked. Hope this help you! ThanksMotty On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Vadim Kimlaychuk vadim.kimlayc...@elion.ee wrote: I have tried to do upgrade 2nd time and failed again. The sequence of actions is described here: http://cloudstack-release-notes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/upgrade/upgr ade-4.4.html Followed instructions until the end. VM upgrade has taken more than 5 hrs. The result of update is: - Stopping and starting 1 secondary storage vm(s)... ERROR: Failed to stop secondary storage vm with id 25 Done stopping and starting secondary storage vm(s) Stopping and starting 1 console proxy vm(s)... ERROR: Failed to stop console proxy vm with id 1 Done stopping and starting console proxy vm(s) . Stopping and starting 1 running routing vm(s)... 2 Done restarting router(s). --- After restarting managment server workers are not querying status and resources anymore. The last lines at management server log are: --- 2014-10-30 08:48:10,207 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin UcsManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,208 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin VpcVirtualRouterElement 2014-10-30 08:48:10,208 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin BaremetalPxeManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,209 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin BaremetalManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,209 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin ApiDiscoveryServiceImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,209 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin ManagementServerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,211 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin DedicatedResourceManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,211 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin InternalLoadBalancerElement 2014-10-30 08:48:10,211 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin LdapManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,211 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin ApiRateLimitServiceImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,211 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin BaremetalDhcpManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,212 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin ContrailVpcElementImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,215 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin ContrailElementImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,215 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin
Re: Status: update from 4.4.0 - 4.4.1 still broken ?
I will update the RN then. On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Vadim Kimlaychuk vadim.kimlayc...@elion.ee wrote: Monty, Thank you for tips. I have Ubuntu at my managment servers and packages are not yet ready. So I have to use shapeblue repository like this: file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cloudstack.list contains: deb http://packages.shapeblue.com/cloudstack/upstream/debian/4.4 ./ I also used this template http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/systemvm/4.4/systemvm64template-4.4.1-xen.vhd.bz2 And finally I have updated database with ALTER TABLE `snapshot_policy` ADD `display` TINYINT( 1 ) NOT NULL DEFAULT '1' After management server restart I was able to see management console and log-in into CS ! It seems DB update is vital for upgrade. Now I am updating system VM, but CS 4.4.1 is already usable. Thank you all ! Vadim. -Original Message- From: motty cruz [mailto:motty.c...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 7:00 PM To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: Status: update from 4.4.0 - 4.4.1 still broken ? HI PL, I upgrade my testing cluster for 3 times with bad results, until I manually updated the DB as Andrija suggested in this email. Thanks, Celso On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion pdion...@apache.org wrote: upgrading from 4.4.0 really required this manual db patch: ALTER TABLE `snapshot_policy` ADD `display` TINYINT( 1 ) NOT NULL DEFAULT '1' ? If so we will update the RN.. PL On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:29 PM, motty cruz motty.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vadim, I finally was able to upgrade successfully Cloudstack 4.4.0 to Cloudstack 4.4.1. I used this guider: http://cloudstack-release-notes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/upgrade/upgr ade-4.4.html Download System VMs from here: http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/systemvm/4.4/ I specifically used this: http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/systemvm/4.4/systemvm64template-4.4.1-xen .vhd.bz2 instead of the one suggested in the guide. Also, I executed the following two command: yum upgrade cloudstack-management once that finished successfully yum update (updates java) This also failed for me: nohup cloudstack-sysvmadm -d IPaddress -u cloud -p password -a sysvm.log 21 but I run that command any way: Also I log in to my database server: ALTER TABLE `snapshot_policy` ADD `display` TINYINT( 1 ) NOT NULL DEFAULT '1' restarted management server and all worked. Hope this help you! ThanksMotty On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Vadim Kimlaychuk vadim.kimlayc...@elion.ee wrote: I have tried to do upgrade 2nd time and failed again. The sequence of actions is described here: http://cloudstack-release-notes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/upgrade/upgr ade-4.4.html Followed instructions until the end. VM upgrade has taken more than 5 hrs. The result of update is: - Stopping and starting 1 secondary storage vm(s)... ERROR: Failed to stop secondary storage vm with id 25 Done stopping and starting secondary storage vm(s) Stopping and starting 1 console proxy vm(s)... ERROR: Failed to stop console proxy vm with id 1 Done stopping and starting console proxy vm(s) . Stopping and starting 1 running routing vm(s)... 2 Done restarting router(s). --- After restarting managment server workers are not querying status and resources anymore. The last lines at management server log are: --- 2014-10-30 08:48:10,207 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin UcsManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,208 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin VpcVirtualRouterElement 2014-10-30 08:48:10,208 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin BaremetalPxeManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,209 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin BaremetalManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,209 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin ApiDiscoveryServiceImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,209 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin ManagementServerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,211 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin DedicatedResourceManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,211 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin InternalLoadBalancerElement 2014-10-30 08:48:10,211 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin LdapManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,211 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin ApiRateLimitServiceImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,211 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin BaremetalDhcpManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,212 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin
Re: How change default System Offering For Software Router?
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote: It should be, yes. BTW the link you sent - it's changing existing VR offering... To make another system offering a DEFAUTL offering, use the stuff explained here: http://cloudstack-administration.readthedocs.org/en/latest/service_offerings.html#changing-the-default-system-offering-for-system-vms Best Thanks a lot. -- Hollman Eduardo Enciso R. http://algolibre.com @hollman
Re: XenServer
Andrija, You can still do volume snapshotting with KVM, works fine. http://www.nux.ro/archive/2014/01/Taking_KVM_volume_snapshots_with_Cloudstack_4_2_on_CentOS_6_5.html All we need is a way to quickly restore the volume, some guys at leaseweb were working on something like this, hope to see this feature in future versions. -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 09:37:49 Subject: Re: XenServer My vote also for KVM snapshooting - having all the nice fetaures, but without basic virtualization stuff like snapshotting - it simply drives me and our client nuts... On 31 October 2014 10:03, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: Is there a feature request for this support or should we open one? I would like to see this implemented for KVM. Andrei - Original Message - From: Nux! n...@li.nux.ro To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 11:25:10 PM Subject: Re: XenServer Andrei, I am hopeful the next incarnation of XenServer will be much better/modern, with support for CEPH, GlusterFS etc. Re KVM snapshotting, KVM can do live snapshots of the volumes+memory (you can do it with virsh), but ACS doesn't support it; forgot why. Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 21:24:06 Subject: Re: XenServer I would happily switch to XenServer once they will have ceph support. I do prefer XenServer and the feature list of ACS + XenServer is a bit better. It sucks not having proper snapshotting in KVM where one can create the whole vm snapshot (volumes + memory) very quickly without the need to bother snapshotting every volume and wait for ages. Andrei - Original Message - From: motty cruz motty.c...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:43:32 PM Subject: Re: XenServer I am no expert by any means but my personal opinion, I really like XenServer a lot better. I have a cluster of about 5 machines running KVM, ACS 4.3. I unable to do snapshot, migrating VMs from one host to another takes a long time. I had a very bad experience with Balloon driver, I am traumatize using KVM. XenServer don't need to install cloudstack agent is already integrated. I am very happy with XenServer. I still need to work out a few lingering issues but thus far am a happy person. Thanks, -Motty On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: I wold love to see the ability to do proper snapshotting on KVM. XenServer does it so much better! - Original Message - From: Vladimir Melnik v.mel...@uplink.ua To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:09:17 PM Subject: RE: XenServer Oh, thank you so much, folks, for your replies on this topic! Now I understand that I shouldn't migrate to XenServer, as I already have a bunch of hosts running KVM and it really won't be a good idea to bread such a zoo. The only thing that makes me feel envy is an ability to change configuration of a virtual machine without restarting it. As I know, KVM doesn't support it yet, am I right? Other XenServer features don't seem to be so exciting to me :) One more time - thanks to all who have helped me to decide not to do something that I would regret. Best regards, V. -- Thanks for your support, Motty -- Andrija Panić -- http://admintweets.com --
Re: XenServer
Nux, I understand this - but a question for you - you have i.e. 3 volumes attached to a VM - how do you snapshot those and make sure they are snapshoted in the EXACT same moment, to preserve data integrity of the data inside VM - you have i.e. database files on 1 volume, database logs on another. This is a reall question, not kidding ? What I know, you can turnoff VM, and then snapshot one by one - but this is not the goal of the snapshotting... ? Thanks On 31 October 2014 16:06, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Andrija, You can still do volume snapshotting with KVM, works fine. http://www.nux.ro/archive/2014/01/Taking_KVM_volume_snapshots_with_Cloudstack_4_2_on_CentOS_6_5.html All we need is a way to quickly restore the volume, some guys at leaseweb were working on something like this, hope to see this feature in future versions. -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 09:37:49 Subject: Re: XenServer My vote also for KVM snapshooting - having all the nice fetaures, but without basic virtualization stuff like snapshotting - it simply drives me and our client nuts... On 31 October 2014 10:03, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: Is there a feature request for this support or should we open one? I would like to see this implemented for KVM. Andrei - Original Message - From: Nux! n...@li.nux.ro To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 11:25:10 PM Subject: Re: XenServer Andrei, I am hopeful the next incarnation of XenServer will be much better/modern, with support for CEPH, GlusterFS etc. Re KVM snapshotting, KVM can do live snapshots of the volumes+memory (you can do it with virsh), but ACS doesn't support it; forgot why. Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 21:24:06 Subject: Re: XenServer I would happily switch to XenServer once they will have ceph support. I do prefer XenServer and the feature list of ACS + XenServer is a bit better. It sucks not having proper snapshotting in KVM where one can create the whole vm snapshot (volumes + memory) very quickly without the need to bother snapshotting every volume and wait for ages. Andrei - Original Message - From: motty cruz motty.c...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:43:32 PM Subject: Re: XenServer I am no expert by any means but my personal opinion, I really like XenServer a lot better. I have a cluster of about 5 machines running KVM, ACS 4.3. I unable to do snapshot, migrating VMs from one host to another takes a long time. I had a very bad experience with Balloon driver, I am traumatize using KVM. XenServer don't need to install cloudstack agent is already integrated. I am very happy with XenServer. I still need to work out a few lingering issues but thus far am a happy person. Thanks, -Motty On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: I wold love to see the ability to do proper snapshotting on KVM. XenServer does it so much better! - Original Message - From: Vladimir Melnik v.mel...@uplink.ua To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:09:17 PM Subject: RE: XenServer Oh, thank you so much, folks, for your replies on this topic! Now I understand that I shouldn't migrate to XenServer, as I already have a bunch of hosts running KVM and it really won't be a good idea to bread such a zoo. The only thing that makes me feel envy is an ability to change configuration of a virtual machine without restarting it. As I know, KVM doesn't support it yet, am I right? Other XenServer features don't seem to be so exciting to me :) One more time - thanks to all who have helped me to decide not to do something that I would regret. Best regards, V. -- Thanks for your support, Motty -- Andrija Panić -- http://admintweets.com -- -- Andrija Panić -- http://admintweets.com --
Re: XenServer
Andrija, AFAIK you can't snapshot all the volumes in the exact same moment, but I am not sure if it really needed in your case. VM snapshot it's what you would need, only supported for Xenserver and VMware; we need to push for VM snapshot for KVM as well, I know it's possible as I have done it manually with virsh. There are different ways around a problem though, if you are running mysql with innodb for example you could just do a mysqldump (with --single-transaction to avoid locking the tables). HTH Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 15:10:26 Subject: Re: XenServer Nux, I understand this - but a question for you - you have i.e. 3 volumes attached to a VM - how do you snapshot those and make sure they are snapshoted in the EXACT same moment, to preserve data integrity of the data inside VM - you have i.e. database files on 1 volume, database logs on another. This is a reall question, not kidding ? What I know, you can turnoff VM, and then snapshot one by one - but this is not the goal of the snapshotting... ? Thanks On 31 October 2014 16:06, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Andrija, You can still do volume snapshotting with KVM, works fine. http://www.nux.ro/archive/2014/01/Taking_KVM_volume_snapshots_with_Cloudstack_4_2_on_CentOS_6_5.html All we need is a way to quickly restore the volume, some guys at leaseweb were working on something like this, hope to see this feature in future versions. -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 09:37:49 Subject: Re: XenServer My vote also for KVM snapshooting - having all the nice fetaures, but without basic virtualization stuff like snapshotting - it simply drives me and our client nuts... On 31 October 2014 10:03, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: Is there a feature request for this support or should we open one? I would like to see this implemented for KVM. Andrei - Original Message - From: Nux! n...@li.nux.ro To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 11:25:10 PM Subject: Re: XenServer Andrei, I am hopeful the next incarnation of XenServer will be much better/modern, with support for CEPH, GlusterFS etc. Re KVM snapshotting, KVM can do live snapshots of the volumes+memory (you can do it with virsh), but ACS doesn't support it; forgot why. Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 21:24:06 Subject: Re: XenServer I would happily switch to XenServer once they will have ceph support. I do prefer XenServer and the feature list of ACS + XenServer is a bit better. It sucks not having proper snapshotting in KVM where one can create the whole vm snapshot (volumes + memory) very quickly without the need to bother snapshotting every volume and wait for ages. Andrei - Original Message - From: motty cruz motty.c...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:43:32 PM Subject: Re: XenServer I am no expert by any means but my personal opinion, I really like XenServer a lot better. I have a cluster of about 5 machines running KVM, ACS 4.3. I unable to do snapshot, migrating VMs from one host to another takes a long time. I had a very bad experience with Balloon driver, I am traumatize using KVM. XenServer don't need to install cloudstack agent is already integrated. I am very happy with XenServer. I still need to work out a few lingering issues but thus far am a happy person. Thanks, -Motty On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: I wold love to see the ability to do proper snapshotting on KVM. XenServer does it so much better! - Original Message - From: Vladimir Melnik v.mel...@uplink.ua To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:09:17 PM Subject: RE: XenServer Oh, thank you so much, folks, for your replies on this topic! Now I understand that I shouldn't migrate to XenServer, as I already have a bunch of hosts running KVM and it really won't be a good idea to bread such a zoo. The only thing that makes me feel envy is an ability to change configuration of a virtual
Re: [ACS43][MGMT Server][Load Balancing]
Hi, i retried an install of LB Mgmt servers : On the first mgmt server 192.168.0.10 i tried a : cloudstack-setup-databases cloud:password@192.168.0.200 cloud%3Apassword@192.168.0.10 --deploy-as=root:mypassroot -e file -m mypassphrase -k mypassphrase -i 192.168.0.100 192.168.0.100 is the vip of the netscaler the 192.168.0.10 if the first mgmt server node (192.168.0.11 is the second) Whe i try to start the mgmt server i have this error : 2014-10-31 16:05:14,246 DEBUG [c.c.s.ConfigurationServerImpl] (main:null) Execution is successful. 2014-10-31 16:05:14,285 INFO [c.c.c.ClusterManagerImpl] (main:null) Start configuring cluster manager : ClusterManagerImpl 2014-10-31 16:05:14,285 INFO [c.c.c.ClusterManagerImpl] (main:null) Cluster node IP : 192.168.0.100 2014-10-31 16:05:14,292 ERROR [o.a.c.s.l.CloudStackExtendedLifeCycle] (main:null) Failed to configure ClusterManagerImpl javax.naming.ConfigurationException: cluster node IP should be valid local address where the server is running, please check your configuration And the management server does not start. What did i miss ? Thanks for your responses. Regards, Benoit. 2014-10-30 10:36 GMT+01:00 Rohit Yadav rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com: Hi, On 30-Oct-2014, at 2:52 pm, benoit lair kurushi4...@gmail.com wrote: So when doing a cloudstack-setup-databases with -i 192.168.0.100 i have to specify the vip of the netscaler ? As well i am on the first node or on the second node or N node ? The -i ip is used as the host IP by CloudStack management server, among other things this is especially used by systemvms to connect to mgmt server. So, if you’re load balancing using netscaler, use the netscaler IP. Make sure to configure ports 8080, 8250 appropriately. Make sure all the ACS mgmt servers (primary/first one and others) can connect to mysql server from their respective IPs. Yes the management server was crashed, for the moment i don't have the access to this management server pool. As soon i'm getting back to this mgmt server pool, i give you more infos. I'm going to reinstall some fresh mgmt servers and give you more feedback. Sure. Concerning the mgmt server log entries Resp: Routing to peer, is it normal that the mgmt server is producing so much log entries with this message (seeing my mgmt log file growing very fast). Since, both the management servers are loadbalancing internal calls, you’ll see these a lot. You may plan your log storage appropriately or configure log4j xml to not log INFO/DEBUG etc. Regards, Rohit Yadav Software Architect, ShapeBlue M. +91 88 262 30892 | rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com Blog: bhaisaab.org | Twitter: @_bhaisaab Find out more about ShapeBlue and our range of CloudStack related services IaaS Cloud Design Build http://shapeblue.com/iaas-cloud-design-and-build// CSForge – rapid IaaS deployment frameworkhttp://shapeblue.com/csforge/ CloudStack Consultinghttp://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-consultancy/ CloudStack Infrastructure Support http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-infrastructure-support/ CloudStack Bootcamp Training Courses http://shapeblue.com/cloudstack-training/ This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue SA Pty Ltd is a company registered by The Republic of South Africa and is traded under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
Re: XenServer
Nux, I agree that we need to push that - but since I'm not a develoepr, no reall use of me :) If I need to push somewhere, just let me know. Anyway, user want a single click SNAPSHOT - and an option for revert - talking about public cloud Cheers On 31 October 2014 16:18, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Andrija, AFAIK you can't snapshot all the volumes in the exact same moment, but I am not sure if it really needed in your case. VM snapshot it's what you would need, only supported for Xenserver and VMware; we need to push for VM snapshot for KVM as well, I know it's possible as I have done it manually with virsh. There are different ways around a problem though, if you are running mysql with innodb for example you could just do a mysqldump (with --single-transaction to avoid locking the tables). HTH Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 15:10:26 Subject: Re: XenServer Nux, I understand this - but a question for you - you have i.e. 3 volumes attached to a VM - how do you snapshot those and make sure they are snapshoted in the EXACT same moment, to preserve data integrity of the data inside VM - you have i.e. database files on 1 volume, database logs on another. This is a reall question, not kidding ? What I know, you can turnoff VM, and then snapshot one by one - but this is not the goal of the snapshotting... ? Thanks On 31 October 2014 16:06, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Andrija, You can still do volume snapshotting with KVM, works fine. http://www.nux.ro/archive/2014/01/Taking_KVM_volume_snapshots_with_Cloudstack_4_2_on_CentOS_6_5.html All we need is a way to quickly restore the volume, some guys at leaseweb were working on something like this, hope to see this feature in future versions. -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 09:37:49 Subject: Re: XenServer My vote also for KVM snapshooting - having all the nice fetaures, but without basic virtualization stuff like snapshotting - it simply drives me and our client nuts... On 31 October 2014 10:03, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: Is there a feature request for this support or should we open one? I would like to see this implemented for KVM. Andrei - Original Message - From: Nux! n...@li.nux.ro To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 11:25:10 PM Subject: Re: XenServer Andrei, I am hopeful the next incarnation of XenServer will be much better/modern, with support for CEPH, GlusterFS etc. Re KVM snapshotting, KVM can do live snapshots of the volumes+memory (you can do it with virsh), but ACS doesn't support it; forgot why. Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 21:24:06 Subject: Re: XenServer I would happily switch to XenServer once they will have ceph support. I do prefer XenServer and the feature list of ACS + XenServer is a bit better. It sucks not having proper snapshotting in KVM where one can create the whole vm snapshot (volumes + memory) very quickly without the need to bother snapshotting every volume and wait for ages. Andrei - Original Message - From: motty cruz motty.c...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:43:32 PM Subject: Re: XenServer I am no expert by any means but my personal opinion, I really like XenServer a lot better. I have a cluster of about 5 machines running KVM, ACS 4.3. I unable to do snapshot, migrating VMs from one host to another takes a long time. I had a very bad experience with Balloon driver, I am traumatize using KVM. XenServer don't need to install cloudstack agent is already integrated. I am very happy with XenServer. I still need to work out a few lingering issues but thus far am a happy person. Thanks, -Motty On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: I wold love to see the ability to do proper snapshotting on KVM. XenServer does it so much better! - Original Message - From: Vladimir Melnik v.mel...@uplink.ua To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent:
Re: Status: update from 4.4.0 - 4.4.1 still broken ?
Vadim, I am glad it worked for you. I did not realize you were using Ubuntu for management. I believe thomas.schneide thomas.schnei...@euskill.com gave that tip about updating the db earlier in this email. Thanks Lucdion for taking this to development. -Motty On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 5:42 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion pdion...@apache.org wrote: I will update the RN then. On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Vadim Kimlaychuk vadim.kimlayc...@elion.ee wrote: Monty, Thank you for tips. I have Ubuntu at my managment servers and packages are not yet ready. So I have to use shapeblue repository like this: file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cloudstack.list contains: deb http://packages.shapeblue.com/cloudstack/upstream/debian/4.4 ./ I also used this template http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/systemvm/4.4/systemvm64template-4.4.1-xen.vhd.bz2 And finally I have updated database with ALTER TABLE `snapshot_policy` ADD `display` TINYINT( 1 ) NOT NULL DEFAULT '1' After management server restart I was able to see management console and log-in into CS ! It seems DB update is vital for upgrade. Now I am updating system VM, but CS 4.4.1 is already usable. Thank you all ! Vadim. -Original Message- From: motty cruz [mailto:motty.c...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 7:00 PM To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: Status: update from 4.4.0 - 4.4.1 still broken ? HI PL, I upgrade my testing cluster for 3 times with bad results, until I manually updated the DB as Andrija suggested in this email. Thanks, Celso On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Pierre-Luc Dion pdion...@apache.org wrote: upgrading from 4.4.0 really required this manual db patch: ALTER TABLE `snapshot_policy` ADD `display` TINYINT( 1 ) NOT NULL DEFAULT '1' ? If so we will update the RN.. PL On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:29 PM, motty cruz motty.c...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Vadim, I finally was able to upgrade successfully Cloudstack 4.4.0 to Cloudstack 4.4.1. I used this guider: http://cloudstack-release-notes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/upgrade/upgr ade-4.4.html Download System VMs from here: http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/systemvm/4.4/ I specifically used this: http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/systemvm/4.4/systemvm64template-4.4.1-xen .vhd.bz2 instead of the one suggested in the guide. Also, I executed the following two command: yum upgrade cloudstack-management once that finished successfully yum update (updates java) This also failed for me: nohup cloudstack-sysvmadm -d IPaddress -u cloud -p password -a sysvm.log 21 but I run that command any way: Also I log in to my database server: ALTER TABLE `snapshot_policy` ADD `display` TINYINT( 1 ) NOT NULL DEFAULT '1' restarted management server and all worked. Hope this help you! ThanksMotty On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Vadim Kimlaychuk vadim.kimlayc...@elion.ee wrote: I have tried to do upgrade 2nd time and failed again. The sequence of actions is described here: http://cloudstack-release-notes.readthedocs.org/en/latest/upgrade/upgr ade-4.4.html Followed instructions until the end. VM upgrade has taken more than 5 hrs. The result of update is: - Stopping and starting 1 secondary storage vm(s)... ERROR: Failed to stop secondary storage vm with id 25 Done stopping and starting secondary storage vm(s) Stopping and starting 1 console proxy vm(s)... ERROR: Failed to stop console proxy vm with id 1 Done stopping and starting console proxy vm(s) . Stopping and starting 1 running routing vm(s)... 2 Done restarting router(s). --- After restarting managment server workers are not querying status and resources anymore. The last lines at management server log are: --- 2014-10-30 08:48:10,207 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin UcsManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,208 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin VpcVirtualRouterElement 2014-10-30 08:48:10,208 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin BaremetalPxeManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,209 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin BaremetalManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,209 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin ApiDiscoveryServiceImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,209 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin ManagementServerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,211 DEBUG [c.c.a.ApiServer] (main:null) Discovered plugin DedicatedResourceManagerImpl 2014-10-30 08:48:10,211 DEBUG
Re: XenServer
Andrija, Also, I might add that the snapshotting should not take a long time, like what's currently happening with KVM. It takes absolutely ages for the snapshot to complete while the image is being copied from primary to secondary storage. If you have a bunch of volumes you want to snapshot, they just take up all the queue and eventually timeout. Try taking a snapshot of about 50+ volumes at the same time, which is not very uncommon for a medium infrastructure, let alone a large cloud. Things will get broken pretty quickly. Even if you are using ceph storage with the built in capabilities for doing rbd snapshotting, this mechanism is still somewhat broken and buggy. For instance, it would be nice to have a working ability to keep the snapshots on the primary storage to remove this time consuming primary-secondary storage coping, but this feature has been broken for about a year already with no prospects of being fixed as far as I can tell. So, as it stands at the moment, looking from the customer perspective, the snapshotting is broken with KVM and needs to be addressed asap. Not really sure why this is not a priority for the dev team? It seems that the team is pushing those fancy features into the new releases without concentrating on the basics of what the clients want. Very frustrating for the clients ((( Andrei - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 3:35:20 PM Subject: Re: XenServer Nux, I agree that we need to push that - but since I'm not a develoepr, no reall use of me :) If I need to push somewhere, just let me know. Anyway, user want a single click SNAPSHOT - and an option for revert - talking about public cloud Cheers On 31 October 2014 16:18, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Andrija, AFAIK you can't snapshot all the volumes in the exact same moment, but I am not sure if it really needed in your case. VM snapshot it's what you would need, only supported for Xenserver and VMware; we need to push for VM snapshot for KVM as well, I know it's possible as I have done it manually with virsh. There are different ways around a problem though, if you are running mysql with innodb for example you could just do a mysqldump (with --single-transaction to avoid locking the tables). HTH Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 15:10:26 Subject: Re: XenServer Nux, I understand this - but a question for you - you have i.e. 3 volumes attached to a VM - how do you snapshot those and make sure they are snapshoted in the EXACT same moment, to preserve data integrity of the data inside VM - you have i.e. database files on 1 volume, database logs on another. This is a reall question, not kidding ? What I know, you can turnoff VM, and then snapshot one by one - but this is not the goal of the snapshotting... ? Thanks On 31 October 2014 16:06, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Andrija, You can still do volume snapshotting with KVM, works fine. http://www.nux.ro/archive/2014/01/Taking_KVM_volume_snapshots_with_Cloudstack_4_2_on_CentOS_6_5.html All we need is a way to quickly restore the volume, some guys at leaseweb were working on something like this, hope to see this feature in future versions. -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 09:37:49 Subject: Re: XenServer My vote also for KVM snapshooting - having all the nice fetaures, but without basic virtualization stuff like snapshotting - it simply drives me and our client nuts... On 31 October 2014 10:03, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: Is there a feature request for this support or should we open one? I would like to see this implemented for KVM. Andrei - Original Message - From: Nux! n...@li.nux.ro To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 11:25:10 PM Subject: Re: XenServer Andrei, I am hopeful the next incarnation of XenServer will be much better/modern, with support for CEPH, GlusterFS etc. Re KVM snapshotting, KVM can do live snapshots of the volumes+memory (you can do it with virsh), but ACS doesn't support it; forgot why. Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrei Mikhailovsky
Re: XenServer
I meant to push the developers to do it. :) -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 15:35:20 Subject: Re: XenServer Nux, I agree that we need to push that - but since I'm not a develoepr, no reall use of me :) If I need to push somewhere, just let me know. Anyway, user want a single click SNAPSHOT - and an option for revert - talking about public cloud Cheers On 31 October 2014 16:18, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Andrija, AFAIK you can't snapshot all the volumes in the exact same moment, but I am not sure if it really needed in your case. VM snapshot it's what you would need, only supported for Xenserver and VMware; we need to push for VM snapshot for KVM as well, I know it's possible as I have done it manually with virsh. There are different ways around a problem though, if you are running mysql with innodb for example you could just do a mysqldump (with --single-transaction to avoid locking the tables). HTH Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 15:10:26 Subject: Re: XenServer Nux, I understand this - but a question for you - you have i.e. 3 volumes attached to a VM - how do you snapshot those and make sure they are snapshoted in the EXACT same moment, to preserve data integrity of the data inside VM - you have i.e. database files on 1 volume, database logs on another. This is a reall question, not kidding ? What I know, you can turnoff VM, and then snapshot one by one - but this is not the goal of the snapshotting... ? Thanks On 31 October 2014 16:06, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Andrija, You can still do volume snapshotting with KVM, works fine. http://www.nux.ro/archive/2014/01/Taking_KVM_volume_snapshots_with_Cloudstack_4_2_on_CentOS_6_5.html All we need is a way to quickly restore the volume, some guys at leaseweb were working on something like this, hope to see this feature in future versions. -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 09:37:49 Subject: Re: XenServer My vote also for KVM snapshooting - having all the nice fetaures, but without basic virtualization stuff like snapshotting - it simply drives me and our client nuts... On 31 October 2014 10:03, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: Is there a feature request for this support or should we open one? I would like to see this implemented for KVM. Andrei - Original Message - From: Nux! n...@li.nux.ro To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 11:25:10 PM Subject: Re: XenServer Andrei, I am hopeful the next incarnation of XenServer will be much better/modern, with support for CEPH, GlusterFS etc. Re KVM snapshotting, KVM can do live snapshots of the volumes+memory (you can do it with virsh), but ACS doesn't support it; forgot why. Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 21:24:06 Subject: Re: XenServer I would happily switch to XenServer once they will have ceph support. I do prefer XenServer and the feature list of ACS + XenServer is a bit better. It sucks not having proper snapshotting in KVM where one can create the whole vm snapshot (volumes + memory) very quickly without the need to bother snapshotting every volume and wait for ages. Andrei - Original Message - From: motty cruz motty.c...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Thursday, 30 October, 2014 8:43:32 PM Subject: Re: XenServer I am no expert by any means but my personal opinion, I really like XenServer a lot better. I have a cluster of about 5 machines running KVM, ACS 4.3. I unable to do snapshot, migrating VMs from one host to another takes a long time. I had a very bad experience with Balloon driver, I am traumatize using KVM. XenServer don't need to install cloudstack agent is already integrated. I am very happy with XenServer. I still need to work out a few lingering issues but thus far am a happy person. Thanks, -Motty On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Andrei Mikhailovsky
Re: XenServer
Andrei - I agree 100% with you - fancy stuff, new features, and basic ones needs to be fixed - snapshoting, custom vxlan MTU and so on, GUI brokne/buggy, and so on. We have customer who wants to do 90 days snapshoting and possibility to revert back - with this approach coping from primary to secondary volume, simple 50GB volume X 90 days = 4.5 TB of data on secondary storage - for me, this is nonsese... snapshots needs to stay on primary storage (must be shared storage I undestand etc..) Anyway, we agree, let see if the issues get fixed by chance :) Cheers On 31 October 2014 17:33, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: Andrija, Also, I might add that the snapshotting should not take a long time, like what's currently happening with KVM. It takes absolutely ages for the snapshot to complete while the image is being copied from primary to secondary storage. If you have a bunch of volumes you want to snapshot, they just take up all the queue and eventually timeout. Try taking a snapshot of about 50+ volumes at the same time, which is not very uncommon for a medium infrastructure, let alone a large cloud. Things will get broken pretty quickly. Even if you are using ceph storage with the built in capabilities for doing rbd snapshotting, this mechanism is still somewhat broken and buggy. For instance, it would be nice to have a working ability to keep the snapshots on the primary storage to remove this time consuming primary-secondary storage coping, but this feature has been broken for about a year already with no prospects of being fixed as far as I can tell. So, as it stands at the moment, looking from the customer perspective, the snapshotting is broken with KVM and needs to be addressed asap. Not really sure why this is not a priority for the dev team? It seems that the team is pushing those fancy features into the new releases without concentrating on the basics of what the clients want. Very frustrating for the clients ((( Andrei - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 3:35:20 PM Subject: Re: XenServer Nux, I agree that we need to push that - but since I'm not a develoepr, no reall use of me :) If I need to push somewhere, just let me know. Anyway, user want a single click SNAPSHOT - and an option for revert - talking about public cloud Cheers On 31 October 2014 16:18, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Andrija, AFAIK you can't snapshot all the volumes in the exact same moment, but I am not sure if it really needed in your case. VM snapshot it's what you would need, only supported for Xenserver and VMware; we need to push for VM snapshot for KVM as well, I know it's possible as I have done it manually with virsh. There are different ways around a problem though, if you are running mysql with innodb for example you could just do a mysqldump (with --single-transaction to avoid locking the tables). HTH Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 15:10:26 Subject: Re: XenServer Nux, I understand this - but a question for you - you have i.e. 3 volumes attached to a VM - how do you snapshot those and make sure they are snapshoted in the EXACT same moment, to preserve data integrity of the data inside VM - you have i.e. database files on 1 volume, database logs on another. This is a reall question, not kidding ? What I know, you can turnoff VM, and then snapshot one by one - but this is not the goal of the snapshotting... ? Thanks On 31 October 2014 16:06, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Andrija, You can still do volume snapshotting with KVM, works fine. http://www.nux.ro/archive/2014/01/Taking_KVM_volume_snapshots_with_Cloudstack_4_2_on_CentOS_6_5.html All we need is a way to quickly restore the volume, some guys at leaseweb were working on something like this, hope to see this feature in future versions. -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 09:37:49 Subject: Re: XenServer My vote also for KVM snapshooting - having all the nice fetaures, but without basic virtualization stuff like snapshotting - it simply drives me and our client nuts... On 31 October 2014 10:03, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: Is there a feature request for this support or should we open
Re: ACS 4.4.1 DEB Packages not yet available?
I downloaded 4.4.1, but the version still says 4.4.1-SNAPSHOT Is that correct? I don't think so right. Wido On 30-10-14 11:04, Daan Hoogland wrote: I think we mist that, Stephan. Sorry about that. Wido, can you create them? thanks, On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Stephan Seitz s.se...@secretresearchfacility.com wrote: Hi! after reading the 4.4.0 - 4.4.1-thread on the list, I think I'm prepared for an Update. Running the management-node on Ubuntu 14.04 and following the documented update procedure (which leads to something easy as apt-get upgrade), I've noticed that there are no packages for 4.4.1 available at http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/ubuntu/dists/trusty/4.4/ Did I miss something? Or is it just not released yet? cheers, - Stephan
Re: ACS 4.4.1 DEB Packages not yet available?
doesn't seem right, did you pick from the release dir at apache? I would complain to the release manager if I wasn't him. will check. On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Wido den Hollander w...@widodh.nl wrote: I downloaded 4.4.1, but the version still says 4.4.1-SNAPSHOT Is that correct? I don't think so right. Wido On 30-10-14 11:04, Daan Hoogland wrote: I think we mist that, Stephan. Sorry about that. Wido, can you create them? thanks, On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Stephan Seitz s.se...@secretresearchfacility.com wrote: Hi! after reading the 4.4.0 - 4.4.1-thread on the list, I think I'm prepared for an Update. Running the management-node on Ubuntu 14.04 and following the documented update procedure (which leads to something easy as apt-get upgrade), I've noticed that there are no packages for 4.4.1 available at http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/ubuntu/dists/trusty/4.4/ Did I miss something? Or is it just not released yet? cheers, - Stephan -- Daan
Re: ACS 4.4.1 DEB Packages not yet available?
I checked out 4.4.1 and the pom.xml contains 4.4.1 as version. What did you download and where do you see a problem? On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Daan Hoogland daan.hoogl...@gmail.com wrote: doesn't seem right, did you pick from the release dir at apache? I would complain to the release manager if I wasn't him. will check. On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Wido den Hollander w...@widodh.nl wrote: I downloaded 4.4.1, but the version still says 4.4.1-SNAPSHOT Is that correct? I don't think so right. Wido On 30-10-14 11:04, Daan Hoogland wrote: I think we mist that, Stephan. Sorry about that. Wido, can you create them? thanks, On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Stephan Seitz s.se...@secretresearchfacility.com wrote: Hi! after reading the 4.4.0 - 4.4.1-thread on the list, I think I'm prepared for an Update. Running the management-node on Ubuntu 14.04 and following the documented update procedure (which leads to something easy as apt-get upgrade), I've noticed that there are no packages for 4.4.1 available at http://cloudstack.apt-get.eu/ubuntu/dists/trusty/4.4/ Did I miss something? Or is it just not released yet? cheers, - Stephan -- Daan -- Daan
Re: XenServer
Andrija, What we used to do at a big provider with AWS, say a VM has multiple attached volumes with mysql running across all of them (one for data, another for binary logs, say another for relay logs), is if the filesystem supports freezing, you can freeze the fs, then snapshot one by one. So for XFS for example, this would be xfs_freeze. There's creative ways of doing this, combining filesystem features and LVM. You can also do similar things with ZFS. -Alex On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Andrei - I agree 100% with you - fancy stuff, new features, and basic ones needs to be fixed - snapshoting, custom vxlan MTU and so on, GUI brokne/buggy, and so on. We have customer who wants to do 90 days snapshoting and possibility to revert back - with this approach coping from primary to secondary volume, simple 50GB volume X 90 days = 4.5 TB of data on secondary storage - for me, this is nonsese... snapshots needs to stay on primary storage (must be shared storage I undestand etc..) Anyway, we agree, let see if the issues get fixed by chance :) Cheers On 31 October 2014 17:33, Andrei Mikhailovsky and...@arhont.com wrote: Andrija, Also, I might add that the snapshotting should not take a long time, like what's currently happening with KVM. It takes absolutely ages for the snapshot to complete while the image is being copied from primary to secondary storage. If you have a bunch of volumes you want to snapshot, they just take up all the queue and eventually timeout. Try taking a snapshot of about 50+ volumes at the same time, which is not very uncommon for a medium infrastructure, let alone a large cloud. Things will get broken pretty quickly. Even if you are using ceph storage with the built in capabilities for doing rbd snapshotting, this mechanism is still somewhat broken and buggy. For instance, it would be nice to have a working ability to keep the snapshots on the primary storage to remove this time consuming primary-secondary storage coping, but this feature has been broken for about a year already with no prospects of being fixed as far as I can tell. So, as it stands at the moment, looking from the customer perspective, the snapshotting is broken with KVM and needs to be addressed asap. Not really sure why this is not a priority for the dev team? It seems that the team is pushing those fancy features into the new releases without concentrating on the basics of what the clients want. Very frustrating for the clients ((( Andrei - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 3:35:20 PM Subject: Re: XenServer Nux, I agree that we need to push that - but since I'm not a develoepr, no reall use of me :) If I need to push somewhere, just let me know. Anyway, user want a single click SNAPSHOT - and an option for revert - talking about public cloud Cheers On 31 October 2014 16:18, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Andrija, AFAIK you can't snapshot all the volumes in the exact same moment, but I am not sure if it really needed in your case. VM snapshot it's what you would need, only supported for Xenserver and VMware; we need to push for VM snapshot for KVM as well, I know it's possible as I have done it manually with virsh. There are different ways around a problem though, if you are running mysql with innodb for example you could just do a mysqldump (with --single-transaction to avoid locking the tables). HTH Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - From: Andrija Panic andrija.pa...@gmail.com To: users@cloudstack.apache.org Sent: Friday, 31 October, 2014 15:10:26 Subject: Re: XenServer Nux, I understand this - but a question for you - you have i.e. 3 volumes attached to a VM - how do you snapshot those and make sure they are snapshoted in the EXACT same moment, to preserve data integrity of the data inside VM - you have i.e. database files on 1 volume, database logs on another. This is a reall question, not kidding ? What I know, you can turnoff VM, and then snapshot one by one - but this is not the goal of the snapshotting... ? Thanks On 31 October 2014 16:06, Nux! n...@li.nux.ro wrote: Andrija, You can still do volume snapshotting with KVM, works fine. http://www.nux.ro/archive/2014/01/Taking_KVM_volume_snapshots_with_Cloudstack_4_2_on_CentOS_6_5.html All we need is a way to quickly restore the volume, some guys at leaseweb were working on something like this, hope to see this feature in
