RE: Some Questions

[Talk Jesus]

Hi Erik,

Answers inline.

1) What kind of compute offerings do you plan on providing to your
customers?
- I guess similar to competitors like IO, cloudvps.com, Amazon. Just a
general example.

2) Where are you storing customer vms? Local storage, or is there some
storage solution not mentioned here?
Apparently I left that out. Since you recommended a backup server for
management (the CS control panel box), would it be reasonable and viable to
throw in a RAID-10 array of drives there, maybe 4 SAS drives or keep the
storage a totally separate server, similar to the backup server but instead
of SATA, use SAS for performance?

3) Can't give much insight on the IO rate card as I'm not US based.
No problem.

4) You might want two management servers for redundancy.
Thanks for the tip.

-Original Message-
From: Erik Weber [mailto:terbol...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 4:56 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Some Questions

1) What kind of compute offerings do you plan on providing to your
customers?
2) Where are you storing customer vms? Local storage, or is there some
storage solution not mentioned here?
3) Can't give much insight on the IO rate card as I'm not US based.
4) You might want two management servers for redundancy.


Our specs:
Management servers: 2 virtual cores, 8GB ram. Running on existing virtual
infrastructure.
Hypervisors: 2 hexadore cpus, 192/256GB ram. 160GB disks.
Primary/secondary storage: Netapp
Backup: Only for management


Regards,

Erik Weber


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Talk Jesus  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I'd like to set up a public cloud for web hosting (cloud shared 
> hosting, cloud vps, cloud servers) for a new venture.
>
>
>
> My questions are:
>
>
>
> - Question #1 -
>
>
>
> What is the proper way to initially start the hardware infrastructure 
> (example)? I'm thinking the below would be a good starting point, but 
> please correct me if I'm wrong. Note that, I'd like to start off a 
> little beefy.
>
>
>
> Server #1
>
> Purpose: CS Control Panel Install
>
> Qty: 1
>
> Dual Hexacore CPUs
>
> 16GB RAM
>
> 4 x 160GB SAS (RAID10)
>
>
>
> Server #2
>
> Purpose: Hypervisors (Memory)
>
> Qty: 3, plus 1 for failover
>
> Dual Hexacore CPUs
>
> 64GB RAM
>
> 2 x 160GB SATA RAID1
>
>
>
> Server #3
>
> Purpose: Backup
>
> Qty: 1
>
> Dual Hexacore CPUs
>
> 16GB RAM
>
> 12 x 2TB SAS RAID5
>
>
>
> (Example above taken from
> http://onapp.com/cloud/requirements/hardware-configs/)
>
>
>
> - Question #2 -
>
>
>
> Technically with cloud hosting, what would the difference be between a 
> "cloud vps" and "cloud dedicated server"? If I'm not mistaken, they're 
> the same, except the allowance for a 'dedicated server' option would 
> be much higher, right?
>
>
>
> Side note, do you think IO's rate card for cloud hosting is hefty? 
> Just curious. http://www.io.com/cloud-rate-card/
>
>
>
>

Re: Some Questions

[Erik Weber]

1) What kind of compute offerings do you plan on providing to your
customers?
2) Where are you storing customer vms? Local storage, or is there some
storage solution not mentioned here?
3) Can't give much insight on the IO rate card as I'm not US based.
4) You might want two management servers for redundancy.


Our specs:
Management servers: 2 virtual cores, 8GB ram. Running on existing virtual
infrastructure.
Hypervisors: 2 hexadore cpus, 192/256GB ram. 160GB disks.
Primary/secondary storage: Netapp
Backup: Only for management


Regards,

Erik Weber


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:22 PM, Talk Jesus  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> I'd like to set up a public cloud for web hosting (cloud shared hosting,
> cloud vps, cloud servers) for a new venture.
>
>
>
> My questions are:
>
>
>
> - Question #1 -
>
>
>
> What is the proper way to initially start the hardware infrastructure
> (example)? I'm thinking the below would be a good starting point, but
> please
> correct me if I'm wrong. Note that, I'd like to start off a little beefy.
>
>
>
> Server #1
>
> Purpose: CS Control Panel Install
>
> Qty: 1
>
> Dual Hexacore CPUs
>
> 16GB RAM
>
> 4 x 160GB SAS (RAID10)
>
>
>
> Server #2
>
> Purpose: Hypervisors (Memory)
>
> Qty: 3, plus 1 for failover
>
> Dual Hexacore CPUs
>
> 64GB RAM
>
> 2 x 160GB SATA RAID1
>
>
>
> Server #3
>
> Purpose: Backup
>
> Qty: 1
>
> Dual Hexacore CPUs
>
> 16GB RAM
>
> 12 x 2TB SAS RAID5
>
>
>
> (Example above taken from
> http://onapp.com/cloud/requirements/hardware-configs/)
>
>
>
> - Question #2 -
>
>
>
> Technically with cloud hosting, what would the difference be between a
> "cloud vps" and "cloud dedicated server"? If I'm not mistaken, they're the
> same, except the allowance for a 'dedicated server' option would be much
> higher, right?
>
>
>
> Side note, do you think IO's rate card for cloud hosting is hefty? Just
> curious. http://www.io.com/cloud-rate-card/
>
>
>
>

Re: Some questions about vm template

[Du Jun]

Hi Higginbottom,
I would like to explain my questions again.I mean that I have downloaded
system template completely and it is able to start ssvm and
cpvm.Besides,from UI,I can see the size of system template.However,after I
downloading the template of my own for internet,I  see the size field of my
template is empty!Just like that:
HypervisorLXCTypeUSERReadyYesStatusDownload Complete*Size*It's
strange!Would you please help me explain that?Thanks.


Best regards,
Frank


2013/11/15 Geoff Higginbottom 

> Frank,
>
> The system VM template is for system VMs only.
>
> Please revert your DB changes and allow it to be used to automatically
> create the SSVM & CPVM VMs.
>
> Once the SSVM has been created it will connect to Secondary Storage and
> will then report back the size of the template.  It will then download the
> default CentOS template which you can use to create user VMs.
>
> Regards
>
> Geoff Higginbottom
> CTO / Cloud Architect
>
> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603
> 0540| M: +447968161581
>
> geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com
> |www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue
>
> ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS
>
>
> On 15 Nov 2013, at 08:17, "Du Jun"  dj199...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I have some questions:
>
> 1)How can I use system template to start up my instance?I have update
> database cloud.vm_template and set fields:
> public=1
> exactable=1
> type='USER'
> However,it doesn't work.The message box says:"Can't use system template to
> create instance!"So,how can I solve it?
>
> 2)After my template downloaded completely,it's very strange that the "size"
> field is empty as UI shows,just like that:
> HypervisorLXCTypeUSERReadyYesStatusDownload CompleteSizeExtractableYes
>  So,is there anyone can help me solve my problems?Thanks in advanced!
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Frank
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Re: Some questions about vm template

[Geoff Higginbottom]

Frank,

The system VM template is for system VMs only.

Please revert your DB changes and allow it to be used to automatically create 
the SSVM & CPVM VMs.

Once the SSVM has been created it will connect to Secondary Storage and will 
then report back the size of the template.  It will then download the default 
CentOS template which you can use to create user VMs.

Regards

Geoff Higginbottom
CTO / Cloud Architect

D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 
0540| M: +447968161581

geoff.higginbot...@shapeblue.com 
|www.shapeblue.com | Twitter:@shapeblue

ShapeBlue Ltd, 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London, WC2N 4HS


On 15 Nov 2013, at 08:17, "Du Jun" 
mailto:dj199...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,
I have some questions:

1)How can I use system template to start up my instance?I have update
database cloud.vm_template and set fields:
public=1
exactable=1
type='USER'
However,it doesn't work.The message box says:"Can't use system template to
create instance!"So,how can I solve it?

2)After my template downloaded completely,it's very strange that the "size"
field is empty as UI shows,just like that:
HypervisorLXCTypeUSERReadyYesStatusDownload CompleteSizeExtractableYes
 So,is there anyone can help me solve my problems?Thanks in advanced!

--
Best regards,
Frank
This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended 
solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or 
opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily 
represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the 
intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon 
its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you 
believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company 
incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is a company 
incorporated in India and is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. Shape 
Blue Brasil Consultoria Ltda is a company incorporated in Brasil and is 
operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.

Re: some questions about snapshot

[WXR]

One month has passed.
Now I compile and installe cloudstack 4.2 from resouce code,but I find the 
issue is not resolved.
Old napshot files on server are still not deleted by snapshot schedule.

-- Original --
From:  "Prasanna Santhanam";;
Date:  Thu, Aug 8, 2013 02:43 PM
To:  "users"; 

Subject:  Re: some questions about snapshot



This is a bug with 4.0 and it has been fixed in the upcoming release:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-643

On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 02:09:28PM +0800, WXR wrote:
> It can delete the older snapshots on the webUI,but the files are not deleted 
> actually.
> If I go to the snapshot folder of secondary storage,I can see all the 
> snapshot files.
> 
> I use kvm as hypervisor,could you tell me how to let cloudstack create delta 
> snapshots daily and full snapshots every 7 days?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- Original --
> From:  "Venkata SwamyBabu Budumuru";
> Date:  Thu, Aug 8, 2013 12:39 PM
> To:  "users@cloudstack.apache.org"; 
> 
> Subject:  Re: some questions about snapshot
> 
> 
> 
> About the first question:
> 
> Are you talking about the recurring snapshot feature? If yes, AFAIK, It is
> supposed to delete the 1st snapshot when you take the 4th one.
> 
> Regarding the second one,
> 
> You are right about settings present in global category for full and delta
> and they are closely tied to hypervisor. What is the hypervisor you are
> using?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> SWAMY
> 
> On 08/08/13 8:45 AM, "WXR" <1485739...@qq.com> wrote:
> 
> >1.I use snapshot schedule to create snapshots daily,keep 3 snapshots.Now
> >I can see 3 snapshots on webUI,but all snapshot files created before are
> >still on secondary storage.
> >How to let cloudstack clean the old snapshots files?
> >
> >2.There are global settings about "delta snapshot" and "full snapshot",I
> >find that the default snapshot of volume a full snapshot,how to do a
> >delta snapshot?
> 
> .

-- 
Prasanna.,


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Re: some questions about snapshot

[Prasanna Santhanam]

This is a bug with 4.0 and it has been fixed in the upcoming release:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-643

On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 02:09:28PM +0800, WXR wrote:
> It can delete the older snapshots on the webUI,but the files are not deleted 
> actually.
> If I go to the snapshot folder of secondary storage,I can see all the 
> snapshot files.
> 
> I use kvm as hypervisor,could you tell me how to let cloudstack create delta 
> snapshots daily and full snapshots every 7 days?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- Original --
> From:  "Venkata SwamyBabu Budumuru";
> Date:  Thu, Aug 8, 2013 12:39 PM
> To:  "users@cloudstack.apache.org"; 
> 
> Subject:  Re: some questions about snapshot
> 
> 
> 
> About the first question:
> 
> Are you talking about the recurring snapshot feature? If yes, AFAIK, It is
> supposed to delete the 1st snapshot when you take the 4th one.
> 
> Regarding the second one,
> 
> You are right about settings present in global category for full and delta
> and they are closely tied to hypervisor. What is the hypervisor you are
> using?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> SWAMY
> 
> On 08/08/13 8:45 AM, "WXR" <1485739...@qq.com> wrote:
> 
> >1.I use snapshot schedule to create snapshots daily,keep 3 snapshots.Now
> >I can see 3 snapshots on webUI,but all snapshot files created before are
> >still on secondary storage.
> >How to let cloudstack clean the old snapshots files?
> >
> >2.There are global settings about "delta snapshot" and "full snapshot",I
> >find that the default snapshot of volume a full snapshot,how to do a
> >delta snapshot?
> 
> .

-- 
Prasanna.,


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Re: some questions about snapshot

[WXR]

It can delete the older snapshots on the webUI,but the files are not deleted 
actually.
If I go to the snapshot folder of secondary storage,I can see all the snapshot 
files.

I use kvm as hypervisor,could you tell me how to let cloudstack create delta 
snapshots daily and full snapshots every 7 days?

Thank you.




-- Original --
From:  "Venkata SwamyBabu Budumuru";
Date:  Thu, Aug 8, 2013 12:39 PM
To:  "users@cloudstack.apache.org"; 

Subject:  Re: some questions about snapshot



About the first question:

Are you talking about the recurring snapshot feature? If yes, AFAIK, It is
supposed to delete the 1st snapshot when you take the 4th one.

Regarding the second one,

You are right about settings present in global category for full and delta
and they are closely tied to hypervisor. What is the hypervisor you are
using?


Thanks,
SWAMY

On 08/08/13 8:45 AM, "WXR" <1485739...@qq.com> wrote:

>1.I use snapshot schedule to create snapshots daily,keep 3 snapshots.Now
>I can see 3 snapshots on webUI,but all snapshot files created before are
>still on secondary storage.
>How to let cloudstack clean the old snapshots files?
>
>2.There are global settings about "delta snapshot" and "full snapshot",I
>find that the default snapshot of volume a full snapshot,how to do a
>delta snapshot?

.

Re: some questions about snapshot

[Venkata SwamyBabu Budumuru]

About the first question:

Are you talking about the recurring snapshot feature? If yes, AFAIK, It is
supposed to delete the 1st snapshot when you take the 4th one.

Regarding the second one,

You are right about settings present in global category for full and delta
and they are closely tied to hypervisor. What is the hypervisor you are
using?


Thanks,
SWAMY

On 08/08/13 8:45 AM, "WXR" <1485739...@qq.com> wrote:

>1.I use snapshot schedule to create snapshots daily,keep 3 snapshots.Now
>I can see 3 snapshots on webUI,but all snapshot files created before are
>still on secondary storage.
>How to let cloudstack clean the old snapshots files?
>
>2.There are global settings about "delta snapshot" and "full snapshot",I
>find that the default snapshot of volume a full snapshot,how to do a
>delta snapshot?