RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?

2013-07-08 Thread Edison Su


> -Original Message-
> From: Sudha Ponnaganti [mailto:sudha.ponnaga...@citrix.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:23 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org; d...@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?
> 
> We should support whatever is supported earlier at minimum.

The problem is we don't know what is "whatever is supported", as this feature 
is not been tested for years, is anybody knows its status on 4.0, 4.1?

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edison Su [mailto:edison...@citrix.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:20 PM
> To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:11 PM
> > To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org; 'Chip Childers'; Sudha Ponnaganti
> > Subject: RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 
> > 4.2?
> >
> > Sudha was Swift working for 4.0 or 4.1?
> >
> > Edison couldn't we use S3 API for Swift? The support is probably not
> > comprehensive [1][2]
> 
> I am not the best person to answer the question, as I have zero knowledge
> about swift.
> Is there anybody really using Swift on CloudStack, or anybody is supporting
> Swift? Please gives us advice on how to support swift better.
> 
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/APIFeatureComparison
> > [2] http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-object-
> > storage/admin/content/configuring-openstack-object-storage-with-
> > s3_api.html
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sudha Ponnaganti [mailto:sudha.ponnaga...@citrix.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:31 AM
> > > To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org; 'Chip Childers'
> > > Subject: RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be
> > > supported in 4.2?
> > >
> > > Swift was tested for older version of Citrix release. There were  no
> > > code changes or certification requests, so that area was deprioritized.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > /Sudha
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Edison Su [mailto:edison...@citrix.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:15 AM
> > > To: 'Chip Childers'; 
> > > Subject: RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be
> > > supported in 4.2?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 6:46 AM
> > > > To: ; Edison Su
> > > > Subject: Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be
> > > > supported
> > > in 4.2?
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:22 AM, David Nalley  wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Edison Su 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >> Due to object store refactor, Swift is broken. The reason, is
> > > > >> that, we only
> > > > have S3 test environment in our lab, so only S3 is tested for now.
> > > > >> Before adding the feature back, I'd better ask from, the
> > > > >> community, do
> > > > we want to support Swift? If so, which version of Swift? This will
> > > > take some efforts to support Swift, are there any volunteers can
> > > > help
> > > the integration?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Whats the bug ID for this?
> > > > > Unplanned/Unannounced deprecation of a feature is a blocker IMO.
> > > > > It engenders a bad relationship with our users, and strands them
> > > > > on previous versions with no good migration/upgrade path.
> > > > >
> > > > > --David
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Edison, How broken is it?  Is it shorter to fix or revert the
> > > > object store changes?
> > > It's not working at all. Not sure, revert object store will change
> > > it or not, as this feature is not tested by QA for a long time.



RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?

2013-07-08 Thread Sudha Ponnaganti
We should support whatever is supported earlier at minimum. 

-Original Message-
From: Edison Su [mailto:edison...@citrix.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:20 PM
To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?



> -Original Message-
> From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:11 PM
> To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org; 'Chip Childers'; Sudha Ponnaganti
> Subject: RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?
> 
> Sudha was Swift working for 4.0 or 4.1?
> 
> Edison couldn't we use S3 API for Swift? The support is probably not 
> comprehensive [1][2]

I am not the best person to answer the question, as I have zero knowledge about 
swift.
Is there anybody really using Swift on CloudStack, or anybody is supporting 
Swift? Please gives us advice on how to support swift better.

> 
> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/APIFeatureComparison
> [2] http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-object-
> storage/admin/content/configuring-openstack-object-storage-with-
> s3_api.html
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sudha Ponnaganti [mailto:sudha.ponnaga...@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:31 AM
> > To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org; 'Chip Childers'
> > Subject: RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be 
> > supported in 4.2?
> >
> > Swift was tested for older version of Citrix release. There were  no 
> > code changes or certification requests, so that area was deprioritized.
> >
> > Thanks
> > /Sudha
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Edison Su [mailto:edison...@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:15 AM
> > To: 'Chip Childers'; 
> > Subject: RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be 
> > supported in 4.2?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 6:46 AM
> > > To: ; Edison Su
> > > Subject: Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be 
> > > supported
> > in 4.2?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:22 AM, David Nalley  wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Edison Su 
> > wrote:
> > > >> Due to object store refactor, Swift is broken. The reason, is 
> > > >> that, we only
> > > have S3 test environment in our lab, so only S3 is tested for now.
> > > >> Before adding the feature back, I'd better ask from, the 
> > > >> community, do
> > > we want to support Swift? If so, which version of Swift? This will 
> > > take some efforts to support Swift, are there any volunteers can 
> > > help
> > the integration?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Whats the bug ID for this?
> > > > Unplanned/Unannounced deprecation of a feature is a blocker IMO.
> > > > It engenders a bad relationship with our users, and strands them 
> > > > on previous versions with no good migration/upgrade path.
> > > >
> > > > --David
> > > >
> > >
> > > Edison, How broken is it?  Is it shorter to fix or revert the 
> > > object store changes?
> > It's not working at all. Not sure, revert object store will change 
> > it or not, as this feature is not tested by QA for a long time.



RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?

2013-07-08 Thread Edison Su


> -Original Message-
> From: Animesh Chaturvedi [mailto:animesh.chaturv...@citrix.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 3:11 PM
> To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org; 'Chip Childers'; Sudha Ponnaganti
> Subject: RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?
> 
> Sudha was Swift working for 4.0 or 4.1?
> 
> Edison couldn't we use S3 API for Swift? The support is probably not
> comprehensive [1][2]

I am not the best person to answer the question, as I have zero knowledge about 
swift.
Is there anybody really using Swift on CloudStack, or anybody is supporting 
Swift? Please gives us advice on how to support swift better.

> 
> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/APIFeatureComparison
> [2] http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-object-
> storage/admin/content/configuring-openstack-object-storage-with-
> s3_api.html
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Sudha Ponnaganti [mailto:sudha.ponnaga...@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:31 AM
> > To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org; 'Chip Childers'
> > Subject: RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported
> > in 4.2?
> >
> > Swift was tested for older version of Citrix release. There were  no
> > code changes or certification requests, so that area was deprioritized.
> >
> > Thanks
> > /Sudha
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Edison Su [mailto:edison...@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 10:15 AM
> > To: 'Chip Childers'; 
> > Subject: RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported
> > in 4.2?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 6:46 AM
> > > To: ; Edison Su
> > > Subject: Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be
> > > supported
> > in 4.2?
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:22 AM, David Nalley  wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Edison Su 
> > wrote:
> > > >> Due to object store refactor, Swift is broken. The reason, is
> > > >> that, we only
> > > have S3 test environment in our lab, so only S3 is tested for now.
> > > >> Before adding the feature back, I'd better ask from, the
> > > >> community, do
> > > we want to support Swift? If so, which version of Swift? This will
> > > take some efforts to support Swift, are there any volunteers can
> > > help
> > the integration?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Whats the bug ID for this?
> > > > Unplanned/Unannounced deprecation of a feature is a blocker IMO.
> > > > It engenders a bad relationship with our users, and strands them
> > > > on previous versions with no good migration/upgrade path.
> > > >
> > > > --David
> > > >
> > >
> > > Edison, How broken is it?  Is it shorter to fix or revert the object
> > > store changes?
> > It's not working at all. Not sure, revert object store will change it
> > or not, as this feature is not tested by QA for a long time.



Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?

2013-07-08 Thread Chip Childers
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 09:22:07AM -0400, David Nalley wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Edison Su  wrote:
> > Due to object store refactor, Swift is broken. The reason, is that, we only 
> > have S3 test environment in our lab, so only S3 is tested for now.
> > Before adding the feature back, I'd better ask from, the community, do we 
> > want to support Swift? If so, which version of Swift? This will take some 
> > efforts to support Swift, are there any volunteers can help the integration?
> 
> 
> Whats the bug ID for this?

I have opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-3400 as a
blocker for 4.2.

> Unplanned/Unannounced deprecation of a feature is a blocker IMO. It
> engenders a bad relationship with our users, and strands them on
> previous versions with no good migration/upgrade path.
> 
> --David
> 


RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?

2013-07-08 Thread Edison Su


> -Original Message-
> From: Chip Childers [mailto:chip.child...@sungard.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 6:40 AM
> To: 
> Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?
> 
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Edison Su  wrote:
> > Before adding the feature back, I'd better ask from, the community, do we
> want to support Swift?
> 
> Yes
> 
> > If so, which version of Swift?
> 
> At least the version that we were supporting before the OS merge.

Swift is not been tested for a long time, at least, it's not been tested in 
4.0, 4.1 by Citrix QA team. So I really don't know, what's the status of swift 
even before OS merge.
So I am asking the question from the community, and gathering requirements. If 
we want to support this feature, that means at least, there are QA testing this 
feature for each release, and there are users are using it.

> 
> -chip


Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?

2013-07-08 Thread Chip Childers
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Edison Su  wrote:
> Before adding the feature back, I'd better ask from, the community, do we 
> want to support Swift?

Yes

> If so, which version of Swift?

At least the version that we were supporting before the OS merge.

-chip


Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?

2013-07-08 Thread David Nalley
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Edison Su  wrote:
> Due to object store refactor, Swift is broken. The reason, is that, we only 
> have S3 test environment in our lab, so only S3 is tested for now.
> Before adding the feature back, I'd better ask from, the community, do we 
> want to support Swift? If so, which version of Swift? This will take some 
> efforts to support Swift, are there any volunteers can help the integration?


Whats the bug ID for this?
Unplanned/Unannounced deprecation of a feature is a blocker IMO. It
engenders a bad relationship with our users, and strands them on
previous versions with no good migration/upgrade path.

--David


Re: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?

2013-07-03 Thread Prasanna Santhanam
There was someone in the community using swift in production and had
volunteered to do some testing. See 
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-3350

On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 09:57:14PM +, Angeline Shen wrote:
> Hi Edison, Anthony,  Developers who are  interested:
> 
> I tested Swift integration with Cloudstack 3.x .
> 
> Please let me know if  we need to first round  testing of how broken  Swift  
> is  in terms of integration with  campo 4.2.
> 
> In the process of allocating hosts for Swift integration.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edison Su [mailto:edison...@citrix.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 2:30 PM
> To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org
> Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?
> 
> Due to object store refactor, Swift is broken. The reason, is that, we only 
> have S3 test environment in our lab, so only S3 is tested for now.
> Before adding the feature back, I'd better ask from, the community, do we 
> want to support Swift? If so, which version of Swift? This will take some 
> efforts to support Swift, are there any volunteers can help the integration?

-- 
Prasanna.,


RE: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?

2013-07-03 Thread Angeline Shen
Hi Edison, Anthony,  Developers who are  interested:

I tested Swift integration with Cloudstack 3.x .

Please let me know if  we need to first round  testing of how broken  Swift  is 
 in terms of integration with  campo 4.2.

In the process of allocating hosts for Swift integration.

Thanks.



-Original Message-
From: Edison Su [mailto:edison...@citrix.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 2:30 PM
To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Swift in 4.2 is broken, anybody wants it to be supported in 4.2?

Due to object store refactor, Swift is broken. The reason, is that, we only 
have S3 test environment in our lab, so only S3 is tested for now.
Before adding the feature back, I'd better ask from, the community, do we want 
to support Swift? If so, which version of Swift? This will take some efforts to 
support Swift, are there any volunteers can help the integration?