Datasource with Apache Felix.
Team, I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix. In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting a direction as how to achive this in felix. -- Cheers RamaKrishna RV
Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as its framework? Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used inside Karaf. So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found at the Aries Project. Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured correctly and installed with your framework. For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of bundles that need to be part of the basic setup. ... I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely would need. Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this infrastructural glueing? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R ramakrishna...@gmail.com: Team, I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix. In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting a direction as how to achive this in felix. -- Cheers RamaKrishna RV -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
No I'm not saying that, but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource he'll need to put all those bundles back in again, in the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the point? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett njbartl...@gmail.com: Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts. RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not, please report the errors you get. Regards, Neil On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as its framework? Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used inside Karaf. So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found at the Aries Project. Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured correctly and installed with your framework. For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of bundles that need to be part of the basic setup. ... I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely would need. Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this infrastructural glueing? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R ramakrishna...@gmail.com: Team, I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix. In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting a direction as how to achive this in felix. -- Cheers RamaKrishna RV -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@felix.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@felix.apache.org -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master
Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB with many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource works in Karaf. It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand what datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In your case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config. Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need some more. Have a look at https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations. There you'll see a jdbc, jpa, ... features and what bundles they consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may not need to install all of them! Best, Milen On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: No I'm not saying that, but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource he'll need to put all those bundles back in again, in the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the point? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett njbartl...@gmail.com: Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts. RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not, please report the errors you get. Regards, Neil On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as its framework? Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used inside Karaf. So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found at the Aries Project. Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured correctly and installed with your framework. For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of bundles that need to be part of the basic setup. ... I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely would need. Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this infrastructural glueing? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R ramakrishna...@gmail.com: Team, I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix. In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting a direction as how to achive this in felix. -- Cheers RamaKrishna RV -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@felix.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@felix.apache.org -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master -- http://about.me/milen
Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Hi guys, if at the end, you install the same bundles as in Karaf (where we also bring some configuration and convenient commands), the question is why not directly using Karaf ;) Regards JB On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote: You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB with many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource works in Karaf. It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand what datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In your case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config. Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need some more. Have a look at https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations. There you'll see a jdbc, jpa, ... features and what bundles they consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may not need to install all of them! Best, Milen On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: No I'm not saying that, but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource he'll need to put all those bundles back in again, in the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the point? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett njbartl...@gmail.com: Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts. RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not, please report the errors you get. Regards, Neil On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as its framework? Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used inside Karaf. So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found at the Aries Project. Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured correctly and installed with your framework. For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of bundles that need to be part of the basic setup. ... I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely would need. Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this infrastructural glueing? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R ramakrishna...@gmail.com: Team, I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix. In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting a direction as how to achive this in felix. -- Cheers RamaKrishna RV -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@felix.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@felix.apache.org -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbono...@apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://www.talend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@felix.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@felix.apache.org
Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Well if someone says he wants to use B instead of A, I assume he/she has his reasons. That's why I tend to avoid answering like just stay with A as it doesn't really help. Besides, you don't really need everything Karaf comes with, in order to define and use datasources. Depends on the use case one may end up anywhere between installing 2-3 bundles to building custom Karaf. Best, Milen On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: Hi guys, if at the end, you install the same bundles as in Karaf (where we also bring some configuration and convenient commands), the question is why not directly using Karaf ;) Regards JB On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote: You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB with many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource works in Karaf. It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand what datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In your case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config. Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need some more. Have a look at https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/ features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations. There you'll see a jdbc, jpa, ... features and what bundles they consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may not need to install all of them! Best, Milen On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: No I'm not saying that, but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource he'll need to put all those bundles back in again, in the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the point? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett njbartl...@gmail.com: Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts. RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not, please report the errors you get. Regards, Neil On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as its framework? Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used inside Karaf. So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found at the Aries Project. Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured correctly and installed with your framework. For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of bundles that need to be part of the basic setup. ... I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely would need. Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this infrastructural glueing? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R ramakrishna...@gmail.com: Team, I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix. In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting a direction as how to achive this in felix. -- Cheers RamaKrishna RV -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@felix.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@felix.apache.org -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master -- Jean-Baptiste Onofré jbono...@apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://www.talend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@felix.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@felix.apache.org -- http://about.me/milen
Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
The problem with the easy/flexible/enterprise ready container on top of the framework is, that a real lot of users (including me) cannot use it, because their applications *must* run within a difficult/inflexible/enterprise ready 10 years ago container. Or, in other words: A solution must be available outside Karaf anyways. Jochen On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: I agree, but Karaf is flexible enough to create your own custom distribution, where you easily assembly what you need. I know that some of you may think that OSGi is enough by itself, and a container doesn't make sense, but I disagree about that. Providing an easy/flexible/enterprise ready container on top of the framework is very interesting for the users. My $0.02 Regards JB On 12/17/2014 03:22 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote: Well if someone says he wants to use B instead of A, I assume he/she has his reasons. That's why I tend to avoid answering like just stay with A as it doesn't really help. Besides, you don't really need everything Karaf comes with, in order to define and use datasources. Depends on the use case one may end up anywhere between installing 2-3 bundles to building custom Karaf. Best, Milen On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: Hi guys, if at the end, you install the same bundles as in Karaf (where we also bring some configuration and convenient commands), the question is why not directly using Karaf ;) Regards JB On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote: You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB with many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource works in Karaf. It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand what datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In your case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config. Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need some more. Have a look at https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/ features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations. There you'll see a jdbc, jpa, ... features and what bundles they consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may not need to install all of them! Best, Milen On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: No I'm not saying that, but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource he'll need to put all those bundles back in again, in the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the point? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett njbartl...@gmail.com: Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts. RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not, please report the errors you get. Regards, Neil On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as its framework? Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used inside Karaf. So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found at the Aries Project. Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured correctly and installed with your framework. For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of bundles that need to be part of the basic setup. ... I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely would need. Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this infrastructural glueing? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R ramakrishna...@gmail.com: Team, I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix. In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting a direction as how to achive this in felix. -- Cheers RamaKrishna RV -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@felix.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@felix.apache.org -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer
Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
Don't get me wrong, I use Karaf myself and I love it. And I'm fully with you about easy/flexible/enterprise ready container statement. Just was trying to answer the question according to my best knowledge without pushing on my personal preferences. Best, Milen On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: I agree, but Karaf is flexible enough to create your own custom distribution, where you easily assembly what you need. I know that some of you may think that OSGi is enough by itself, and a container doesn't make sense, but I disagree about that. Providing an easy/flexible/enterprise ready container on top of the framework is very interesting for the users. My $0.02 Regards JB On 12/17/2014 03:22 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote: Well if someone says he wants to use B instead of A, I assume he/she has his reasons. That's why I tend to avoid answering like just stay with A as it doesn't really help. Besides, you don't really need everything Karaf comes with, in order to define and use datasources. Depends on the use case one may end up anywhere between installing 2-3 bundles to building custom Karaf. Best, Milen On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: Hi guys, if at the end, you install the same bundles as in Karaf (where we also bring some configuration and convenient commands), the question is why not directly using Karaf ;) Regards JB On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote: You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB with many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource works in Karaf. It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand what datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In your case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config. Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need some more. Have a look at https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/ features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations. There you'll see a jdbc, jpa, ... features and what bundles they consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may not need to install all of them! Best, Milen On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: No I'm not saying that, but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource he'll need to put all those bundles back in again, in the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the point? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett njbartl...@gmail.com: Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts. RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not, please report the errors you get. Regards, Neil On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as its framework? Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used inside Karaf. So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found at the Aries Project. Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured correctly and installed with your framework. For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of bundles that need to be part of the basic setup. ... I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely would need. Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this infrastructural glueing? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R ramakrishna...@gmail.com: Team, I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix. In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting a direction as how to achive this in felix. -- Cheers RamaKrishna RV -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@felix.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@felix.apache.org -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web
Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
To use a blueprint datasource in pure felix you would need to install blueprint and its dependencies. If you do not use blueprint for anything else then I would rather publish the datasource using a simple bundle with just OSGi API. Simply create and publish the DataSource in an Activator. An alternative is to use pax-jdbc. See https://ops4j1.jira.com/wiki/display/PAXJDBC/Create+DataSource+from+config It allows to create the DataSource from just a config admin configuration. Christian Am 17.12.2014 12:13, schrieb Ramakrishna R: Team, I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix. In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting a direction as how to achive this in felix. -- Christian Schneider http://www.liquid-reality.de Open Source Architect Talend Application Integration Division http://www.talend.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@felix.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@felix.apache.org
Re: Datasource with Apache Felix.
It makes sense. My point was just about installing a bunch of bundles on top of Felix to mimic what Karaf already provides. Regards JB On 12/17/2014 03:39 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote: Don't get me wrong, I use Karaf myself and I love it. And I'm fully with you about easy/flexible/enterprise ready container statement. Just was trying to answer the question according to my best knowledge without pushing on my personal preferences. Best, Milen On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: I agree, but Karaf is flexible enough to create your own custom distribution, where you easily assembly what you need. I know that some of you may think that OSGi is enough by itself, and a container doesn't make sense, but I disagree about that. Providing an easy/flexible/enterprise ready container on top of the framework is very interesting for the users. My $0.02 Regards JB On 12/17/2014 03:22 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote: Well if someone says he wants to use B instead of A, I assume he/she has his reasons. That's why I tend to avoid answering like just stay with A as it doesn't really help. Besides, you don't really need everything Karaf comes with, in order to define and use datasources. Depends on the use case one may end up anywhere between installing 2-3 bundles to building custom Karaf. Best, Milen On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré j...@nanthrax.net wrote: Hi guys, if at the end, you install the same bundles as in Karaf (where we also bring some configuration and convenient commands), the question is why not directly using Karaf ;) Regards JB On 12/17/2014 02:44 PM, Milen Dyankov wrote: You probably know this but just to make it clear - Karaf is not directly comparable with Felix. It can use Felix or Equinox but it comes OOTB with many bundles pre-installed. That is why your datasource works in Karaf. It will work in Felix if you have appropriate bundles (that understand what datasource is, how is defined and how to deal with it) installed. In your case this is first the blueprint impl to process your blueprint config. Then it depend on what really a 'datasource' is in your case you'll need some more. Have a look at https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/karaf/ features/enterprise/3.0.2/enterprise-3.0.2-features.xml to see what Karaf uses if you want to stick with those implementations. There you'll see a jdbc, jpa, ... features and what bundles they consists of. Depending on what exactly is your use case, you may or may not need to install all of them! Best, Milen On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: No I'm not saying that, but if he expects to use blueprint xml definitions for a datasource he'll need to put all those bundles back in again, in the end he might end up with the Karaf-minimal distro so where is the point? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 14:02 GMT+01:00 Neil Bartlett njbartl...@gmail.com: Achim, are you seriously saying that you need the complete Karaf stack just in order to use a datasource?? That’s nuts. RamaKrishna, what is the issue you’re having? If you have a datasource bundle you can just install it in Felix and it will work. If not, please report the errors you get. Regards, Neil On 17 Dec 2014, at 12:51, Achim Nierbeck bcanh...@googlemail.com wrote: Any reason not to stick to Karaf as your container as it uses Felix as its framework? Otherwise you'll need to re-assemble the complete stack that is used inside Karaf. So you'll need to add the blueprint bundles first, those can be found at the Aries Project. Now you'll need to make sure you have Felix File install configured correctly and installed with your framework. For that you'll need some sort of main that does the bootstrapping of bundles that need to be part of the basic setup. ... I think I could go on for about 4 to 5 other projects you most likely would need. Again, why don't you stick to Karaf as it brings all of this infrastructural glueing? regards, Achim 2014-12-17 12:13 GMT+01:00 Ramakrishna R ramakrishna...@gmail.com: Team, I want to know how to configure datasource in Felix container. I have a blueprint that contains datasource info, this i want to make work in Felix. In Karaf when i put it in deploy folder it works perfectly. Am not getting a direction as how to achive this in felix. -- Cheers RamaKrishna RV -- Apache Member Apache Karaf http://karaf.apache.org/ Committer PMC OPS4J Pax Web http://wiki.ops4j.org/display/paxweb/Pax+Web/ Committer Project Lead blog http://notizblog.nierbeck.de/ Co-Author of Apache Karaf Cookbook http://bit.ly/1ps9rkS Software Architect / Project Manager / Scrum Master - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@felix.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@felix.apache.org