Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is this list unmoderated?

2011-06-04 Thread Caesar
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:10:39 -0700, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net
wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is this list unmoderated?:

On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 11:05:45AM +0200, James Wilde wrote:
 
 Personally I think mailing lists are so last century and nerdy, and that we 
 should be using a forum which non-technical users like

Which is precisely the reason I dislike forums. Way too many brainless
questions from users (and I use the term loosely) who barely know how to
turn on their computer. 

+1 on that.  They certainly don't know how to read simple unsubscribe
instructions.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Is this list unmoderated?

2011-06-04 Thread plino

Caesar wrote:
 
 On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 21:10:39 -0700, Robert Holtzman lt;hol...@cox.netgt;
 
Which is precisely the reason I dislike forums. Way too many brainless
questions from users (and I use the term loosely) who barely know how to
turn on their computer. 
 
 +1 on that.  They certainly don't know how to read simple unsubscribe
 instructions.
 

So, you two guys stick to the mailing list. 

Those who are brave enough will bother to answer the brainless questions.

 I think that a project that wants to be an alternative to MS Office can not
afford to snob on anyone.

(In fact that shouldn't happen in any project, but that is just my opinion)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Incredibly annoying highlight problem!

2011-06-04 Thread Steve Edmonds



On 4/06/11 5:22 PM, Justin Guay wrote:

Ok, for many labs for school I have to highlight my answers. There seems to
be a bug where, after you click the color you want and the highlight icon,
when you move the cursor down (onto the document itself), it moves the page
all around. It's essentially acting like a super-fast auto scroll. So you
need to continuously adjust the page to get where you want.

I'm thinking the correct function should be, after highlighting, you can
move the cursor any where and the page won't move. It should only move by
using the right side page scroll bars. I'm not sure if this is a bug or if
it's intended to do this, but it seems like a bug because it seems to only
work at the top of the page; moving the cursor to the bottom does not scroll
down. Hopefully this can be fixed, having to scroll down through pages of
documents to get where I need to highlight is incredibly inefficient. Thanks
for reading this in advance!

Justin

Hey, your right. Must be a bug. You can file a bug at 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/
I have never highlighted this way, I have always selected the text first 
and then clicked the highlight button so never noticed it.

steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Mailing list signature cutline

2011-06-04 Thread Luuk
On 03-06-2011 21:31, PLO wrote:
 Hello Luuk,
 
 On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 20:22:36 +0200 (your time) you said:
 
 Please feel free to email me off list if you want to [...snip...]
 
 no, but thanks, i'm not really interested in a discussion about email
 clients, because they should simply do what u users expects from them.
 
 Actually, Luuk, I didn't invite you to email off list;

Oops, did i do someting wrong?
My apologies... ;)



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[libreoffice-users] Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread prholland
In OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice 3.3 if you used =SUM() to find the total of
the numeric values in a row or column where some of the cells were blank or
just text, then it worked! Now I've just opened a spreadsheet with
LibreOffice 3.4 and #VALUE! is appearing everywhere.

Why the change? It brings back awful memories of the OpenOffice.org upgrade
from 1.1.3 to 2.0.0

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Steve Edmonds



On 4/06/11 9:54 PM, prholland wrote:

In OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice 3.3 if you used =SUM() to find the total of
the numeric values in a row or column where some of the cells were blank or
just text, then it worked! Now I've just opened a spreadsheet with
LibreOffice 3.4 and #VALUE! is appearing everywhere.

Why the change? It brings back awful memories of the OpenOffice.org upgrade
from 1.1.3 to 2.0.0

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Hi. Just made a new sheet with blanks in the range and sum worked ok.
steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Phil,

To start with your subject line: must be, looking at the number of 
people that downloaded and tested betas etc.


prholland wrote (04-06-11 11:54)

In OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice 3.3 if you used =SUM() to find the total of
the numeric values in a row or column where some of the cells were blank or
just text, then it worked! Now I've just opened a spreadsheet with
LibreOffice 3.4 and #VALUE! is appearing everywhere.


Just works fine for me in 3.4.0
So it must be some special case ..?
Any point in sending me a file (offlist)?


Why the change? It brings back awful memories of the OpenOffice.org upgrade
from 1.1.3 to 2.0.0


No change intended, I guess, but I can imagine that you do not long for 
that same 1.1.42.2.0 experience ;-)
Still, the huge rework of code, and other repository/merge/... changes 
that have been done the last months, will for sure lead to extra discomfort.
That is why we explicitly say that the 3.4.0 is for early adaptors. The 
3.4.1 will solve many of the nasty bugs, if not all. And then there will 
be more bugfix releases in the 3.4. line.


Well, all a bit explanation. Mentioning bugs: you might also have a look 
if your specific problem has been reported already:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development#Reporting_Bugs

Thanks,
Cor


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread plino
It must be a new feature :)

I advise you to test 3.3 RC1 and update to 3.3 when it is released. Version
3.4 is not ready for real work as stated in the release announcement

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/The-Document-Foundation-announces-LibreOffice-3-4-0-tt3019206.html

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering help.

2011-06-04 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi Regina.

On 2/06/11 6:02 AM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

On 2/06/11 3:20 AM, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Steve,

Steve Edmonds schrieb:
[long decription]


The size of the outline numbering no longer changes to match the text.
The outline numbering is fixed the same font, size, weight everywhere.

My question is how do I undo this so that the outline numbering will
again follow the characteristics of the text it appears in front of.



Go to character style Numbering Symbol. On the tab Font or on the 
tab Font effects (depends on your settings) click on the button 
Standard. Go to the tab Organizer. There should be no entries in 
section Contains.



Thanks for your help Regina.
I see the entries in organiser that must be cleared.  In Font I have 
only font, typeface, size and language selections. In Font Effects I 
have no button Standard, just 6 list selectors and 4 tick boxes 
(Outline, Shadow, Blinking, Hidden).

I have LO 3.3.2 on mac.
steve

Hi. Now I have 3.4.0. I still see no button Standard, may be I am not 
seeing the obvious. Do you have a screen shot showing Standard button. 
On the plus side, 3.4.0 seems to have fixed the unstable outline style 
problem I was experiencing.

Steve

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[libreoffice-users] database

2011-06-04 Thread PETER FREER
Dear Sir,
I have Windows Vista Home Premium Service Pack 2
 I was looking for a Database programme and chose your Libre Office 3.3.2
programme.
I downloaded  and installed the programe including the LibreOffice Help Pack
in English.
After some traing and use I decided this was just too complicated for my
needs and uninstalled your programme.
But in my Programmes and Feature I am left with the LibreOffice 3.3 Help
Pack (English) and it will NOT uninstall.
I recieve the following message -  the feature you are trying to use is on
a CD-Rom or other removable disk that is not avaliable.
A search of my computer finds nothing.
As you are the providers of this programme can you help me in how to
uninstall this part of your programme.
Thank You
Peter FREER

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread PLO
Hello prholland,

On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 02:54:53 -0700 (PDT) (your time) you said:

 In OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice 3.3 if you used =SUM() to find the total
 of the numeric values in a row or column where some of the cells were
 blank or just text, then it worked! Now I've just opened a spreadsheet
 with LibreOffice 3.4 and #VALUE! is appearing everywhere.

That's odd. I don't get that. This works for me:

A1 is =SUM(A2:A7,B1:G1)
A7 is =SUM(52/4)
G1 is =SUM(365/52)

E1 and A5 are empty
A6 and F1 are text


   A   B   C   D   E   F   G
1  =SUM()  1   2   3   TEST=SUM()
2  1
3  2
4  3
5
6  TEST
7  =SUM()


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-06-04 Thread ugm6hr
I'm suffering the same problem.
OO Base 3.2 workd fine. Having upgraded to LO 3.3 (and tried OO 3.3), any
date format field cannot have a default date set.
My prior embedded HSQL database (from OO2.x, used in OO3.2) doesn't work -
the set default date enters nonsense in the field, which obviously then
errors since it doesn't fit the date format. Hence, no new entries can be
made.
Deleting the default date works OK.
However, I don't enter the date in my form - it is always today - so I
simply edit the table each day before starting data entry. This no longer
works, making LO3.3+ unusable for me.
The workaround of using SQL each day is unsatisfactory (and this was not
necessary for 3.2).
(Tried LO/OO3.3 on Ubuntu 10.10  11.04)

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[libreoffice-users] 3.4 install errors

2011-06-04 Thread Tinker
Doing a new install of 3.4 , 64 bit on Xubuntu I get these errors -


Processing triggers for shared-mime-info ...
Unknown media type in type 'all/all'

Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'

Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms'

Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst'

Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu'

Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm'

Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt'

Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu'

Unknown media type in type 'fonts/package'

Unknown media type in type 'interface/x-winamp-skin'

Are these important?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think #VALUE! appears when some duff value is trying to be shown, such as 
trying to divide by 0 or trying to add nonsensical values together such as word 
added to numbers and being shown in a cell formatted to show numbers.  It's 
likely there is a tpyo somewhere, either in the formula or in the values in the 
table.  

Regards from
Tom :)




- Original Message 
 From: PLO protect.libreoff...@inboxshield.co.uk
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 11:28:15
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Has anyone tested the 
backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?
 
 Hello prholland,
 
 On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 02:54:53 -0700 (PDT) (your time) you  said:
 
  In OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice 3.3 if you used =SUM() to  find the total
  of the numeric values in a row or column where some of  the cells were
  blank or just text, then it worked! Now I've just opened  a spreadsheet
  with LibreOffice 3.4 and #VALUE! is appearing  everywhere.
 
 That's odd. I don't get that. This works for me:
 
 A1 is  =SUM(A2:A7,B1:G1)
 A7 is =SUM(52/4)
 G1 is =SUM(365/52)
 
 E1 and A5 are  empty
 A6 and F1 are text
 
 
A   BC   D   EF   G
 1  =SUM()  12   3TEST=SUM()
 2  1
 3  2
 4  3
 5
 6   TEST
 7  =SUM()
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Luuk
On 04-06-2011 13:38, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 I think #VALUE! appears when some duff value is trying to be shown, such as 
 trying to divide by 0

#DIV/0!  ??

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread markku leitso
Sometimes I have found that the #VALUE! is because the number doesn't fit
in the width of the cell. Making the width of the column has resolved the
problem.
*I doubt if the movie Black Swan was making fun of me in my Linux mascot
guise!*



On 4 June 2011 13:38, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 I think #VALUE! appears when some duff value is trying to be shown, such
 as
 trying to divide by 0 or trying to add nonsensical values together such as
 word
 added to numbers and being shown in a cell formatted to show numbers.  It's
 likely there is a tpyo somewhere, either in the formula or in the values in
 the
 table.

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 - Original Message 
  From: PLO protect.libreoff...@inboxshield.co.uk
  To: users@libreoffice.org
  Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 11:28:15
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Has anyone tested the
 backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?
 
  Hello prholland,
 
  On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 02:54:53 -0700 (PDT) (your time) you  said:
 
   In OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice 3.3 if you used =SUM() to  find the
 total
   of the numeric values in a row or column where some of  the cells were
   blank or just text, then it worked! Now I've just opened  a spreadsheet
   with LibreOffice 3.4 and #VALUE! is appearing  everywhere.
 
  That's odd. I don't get that. This works for me:
 
  A1 is  =SUM(A2:A7,B1:G1)
  A7 is =SUM(52/4)
  G1 is =SUM(365/52)
 
  E1 and A5 are  empty
  A6 and F1 are text
 
 
 A   BC   D   EF   G
  1  =SUM()  12   3TEST=SUM()
  2  1
  3  2
  4  3
  5
  6   TEST
  7  =SUM()
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] database

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Dear Peter
In Vista can you find the Add/remove programs?  In Xp and i think in Win7 
it's 
in the Control Panel so hopefully it should be there in Vista also.  This 
should 
help you remove the help package.  You might have more luck with the Clean 
disk-space tool that 'should' be in somewhere like
Start - All Programs - Accessories - System Tools
I think Vista decided to call the Start button something different but it still 
looks the same and is still in on the taskbar at the very bottom of the screen 
and to the far-left.

Oddly this is a typical Windows problem that occurs when trying to un-install 
almost any program in Windows.  Random fragments that the un-installer asks to 
remove get left behind. 


Please let us know how this goes!
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)




- Original Message 
 From: PETER FREER freerp...@gmail.com
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 11:11:15
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] database
 
 Dear Sir,
 I have Windows Vista Home Premium Service Pack 2
  I was looking  for a Database programme and chose your Libre Office 3.3.2
 programme.
 I  downloaded  and installed the programe including the LibreOffice Help  Pack
 in English.
 After some traing and use I decided this was just too  complicated for my
 needs and uninstalled your programme.
 But in my  Programmes and Feature I am left with the LibreOffice 3.3 Help
 Pack (English)  and it will NOT uninstall.
 I recieve the following message -  the feature  you are trying to use is on
 a CD-Rom or other removable disk that is not  avaliable.
 A search of my computer finds nothing.
 As you are the  providers of this programme can you help me in how to
 uninstall this part of  your programme.
 Thank You
 Peter FREER
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I remember this happened in Excell at one point too.  I vaguely remember there 
was some obscure setting that had suddenly been changed from previous 
updates/versions.  I would post a bug-report and then start searching for it as 
it's not ideal default behaviour!
Regards from
Tom :)




- Original Message 
 From: Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Cc: o...@hollandnumerics.com
 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 11:08:24
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Has anyone tested the 
backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?
 
 Hi Phil,
 
 To start with your subject line: must be, looking at the number  of people 
 that 
downloaded and tested betas etc.
 
 prholland wrote (04-06-11  11:54)
  In OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice 3.3 if you used =SUM() to find  the total 
of
  the numeric values in a row or column where some of the  cells were blank or
  just text, then it worked! Now I've just opened a  spreadsheet with
  LibreOffice 3.4 and #VALUE! is appearing  everywhere.
 
 Just works fine for me in 3.4.0
 So it must be some special  case ..?
 Any point in sending me a file (offlist)?
 
  Why the  change? It brings back awful memories of the OpenOffice.org upgrade
  from  1.1.3 to 2.0.0
 
 No change intended, I guess, but I can imagine that you do  not long for that 
same 1.1.42.2.0 experience ;-)
 Still, the huge rework  of code, and other repository/merge/... changes that 
have been done the last  months, will for sure lead to extra discomfort.
 That is why we explicitly say  that the 3.4.0 is for early adaptors. The 
 3.4.1 
will solve many of the nasty  bugs, if not all. And then there will be more 
bugfix releases in the 3.4.  line.
 
 Well, all a bit explanation. Mentioning bugs: you might also have a  look if 
your specific problem has been reported already:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development#Reporting_Bugs
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread plino
Actually I had never noticed that spreadsheets (all including Excel) ignore
text values mixed with numbers. This worries me a lot!

I work with 300.000+ line spreadsheets and if one line has a text value
(because of a typo) I wouldn't notice that.

Is there any setting that triggers a warning (instead of ignoring the
cell(s)) in this situation?

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread prholland
The following screenshot is taken from a spreadsheet that previously showed
00:00 in LibreOffice 3.3.2, where LibreOffice 3.4.0 is now showing
#VALUE! (NB: all the cells are formatted as Time values, and the text
cells contain -):

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3023141/%23VALUE-screenshot.png 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

I think those empty cells (that now contain - ) might be causing the error.  If 
you delete the - in just 1 row does that fix the formula to display correctly?  
I think number cells can be formatted to show a - mark if empty but 3.4 might 
have got confused and thought those - were keyed in rather than being part of 
the formatting.  It's a long time since i dealt with this sort of thing and 
that 
was in Excel so i could easily be utterly wrong.
Regards from
Tom :)




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 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the 
backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?
 
 The following screenshot is taken from a spreadsheet that previously  showed
 00:00 in LibreOffice 3.3.2, where LibreOffice 3.4.0 is now  showing
 #VALUE! (NB: all the cells are formatted as Time values, and the  text
 cells contain -):
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Workflow / vector graphics to LO / Impress

2011-06-04 Thread Nuno J. Silva
Ilja Gerhardt i...@cryptix.de writes:

 well, the issue is to include scientific graphs etc. from other programs
 (plots, CAD, etc.) - the way to inkscape is quite straight forward.  But
 then from there further to LO is a pain (as described). Maybe other
 people have similar issues and found a better way than 'try'n'error' as
 I do it right now.

Heh, each time I have to include vector graphics in some LibO component,
I end up spending lots of time to find a decent workaround. (So, it's
really a pain.)

PostScript kind of works, LibO won't render it for display, but it
appears correctly when you print.

So, as a workaround, you can try adding the images as encapsulated
postscript, print to file (generates PostScript) and use the resulting
file as the slideshow. 

It won't have any kind of bells and whistles, like transition effects,
but at least images and text will be there.

Evince (which also runs on windows) reads postscript and has a
full-screen slideshow mode; you can also convert to PDF and use xpdf's
fullscreen mode (xpdf -fullscreen file.pdf, or Alt+f in a running xpdf).

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[libreoffice-users] error in menu for tools/language/for selection or for paragraph

2011-06-04 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I found an issue with

ToolsLanguageFor Selection  or For Paragraph.

I am using 3.3.2 DEB 64-bit

When I try to select a language to for a selected text or a paragraph, 
the link/option goes to the Character menu and to choose a background 
color.


I have not tried this since 3.3.0 or 3.3.1, but I know it worked before 
[it could have been the Windows version though].  It use to go to a nice 
menu showing me a list or language dictionary files I had installed.  
Now it just goes to the Character options.


Is this a know bug, and being worked on, or is there some issue with my 
install?


LibreOffice 3.3.2
OOO330m19 (Build:202)
tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2
Ubuntu 10.04LTS 64-bit


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread PLO
Hello prholland,

On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 06:26:56 -0700 (PDT) (your time) you said:

 The following screenshot is taken from a spreadsheet that previously showed
 00:00 in LibreOffice 3.3.2, where LibreOffice 3.4.0 is now showing
 #VALUE! (NB: all the cells are formatted as Time values, and the text
 cells contain -):

Tom is correct, just tried it. If the cell is formatted as time, you get
'#VALUE!' as '-' isn't recognised as a time value. Taking the '-' out and
leaving the cells empty works.

I've worked with time sheets in 3.3.2 as well but then I never used a hyphen
to indicate 'no hours'. Maybe it was a 'fix' in this new version.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks PLO.  Now that you have confirmed that is likely to be the issue i 
played 
around with Format Cells.  I couldn't get an ideal answer that shows a - even 
when the cell is empty but i could get one when the cell has 0 value.  


Select the range of cells and from the top menus select
Format - Cells - Number
and look in the bottom box Format code.  The standard format for time is 
HH:MM
which pedantically only covers +ve values.  Adding something specific for -ve 
values, such as
HH:MM;[RED]HH:MM
helps 'flag-up' if soemthing has gone badly wrong.  The ; (semi-colon) allows 
negative values to have their own formatting rather than just defaulting to 
whatever +ve values have.  A next ; allows us to set how we want 0 values to be 
treated so
HH:MM;[RED]HH:MM ;-
puts a - instead of a 0 value.  Note that values that are close enough to 0 to 
be rounded to 0 are still shown as either black or red 00:00s in that example.

I tried adding more ; to see if that would let us give a - for an empty value 
but it didn't work.  I'm sure there is a tick-box somewhere to do that but it 
doesn't seem to be in the format cells dialogue box in 3.3.2.
Regards from
Tom :)






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 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 14:58:49
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the 
backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?
 
 Hello prholland,
 
 On Sat, 4 Jun 2011 06:26:56 -0700 (PDT) (your time) you  said:
 
  The following screenshot is taken from a spreadsheet that  previously showed
  00:00 in LibreOffice 3.3.2, where LibreOffice 3.4.0  is now showing
  #VALUE! (NB: all the cells are formatted as Time  values, and the text
  cells contain -):
 
 Tom is correct, just  tried it. If the cell is formatted as time, you get
 '#VALUE!' as '-' isn't  recognised as a time value. Taking the '-' out and
 leaving the cells empty  works.
 
 I've worked with time sheets in 3.3.2 as well but then I never  used a hyphen
 to indicate 'no hours'. Maybe it was a 'fix' in this new  version.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not understood properly by MS Office 2010

2011-06-04 Thread Gianluca Turconi

At0mic ha scritto:

Clicking OK asks if you want to recover the contents of the document. The
recovered document is correct and uncorrupted.


Can you post a sample document? I don't see such behavior.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not understood properly by MS Office 2010

2011-06-04 Thread At0mic
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3023257/Test.odt Test.odt 
Just a simple .odt with the word Test in it. Should load fine in Writer, but
complains for me in Word 2010.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 4 Jun 2011 at 6:06, plino wrote:

Date sent:  Sat, 4 Jun 2011 06:06:55 -0700 (PDT)
From:   plino pedl...@gmail.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Subject:[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested 
the backward-compatibility of
LibreOffice 3.4?
Send reply to:  users@libreoffice.org

 Actually I had never noticed that spreadsheets (all including Excel) ignore
 text values mixed with numbers. This worries me a lot!
 
 I work with 300.000+ line spreadsheets and if one line has a text value
 (because of a typo) I wouldn't notice that.
 

If you use count on a range it only counts numeric cells, but 
counta counts numeric and non-empty cells, so if they don't give 
the same results for the same range, there is an error?



 Is there any setting that triggers a warning (instead of ignoring the
 cell(s)) in this situation?
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi prholland,

prholland schrieb:

The following screenshot is taken from a spreadsheet that previously showed
00:00 in LibreOffice 3.3.2, where LibreOffice 3.4.0 is now showing
#VALUE! (NB: all the cells are formatted as Time values, and the text
cells contain -):

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3023141/%23VALUE-screenshot.png


The ODF spec has some rules for converting text to numbers. Those 
conversion is different whether the text occurs in a simple calculation 
with operator or the text occurs in a range in function SUM or similar. 
As LO claims to follow ODF spec, it has to respect this.


In future you have to respect, that + - * / ^ will not work on text. You 
have to ensure, that the operands are numbers.


In OOo this can be done by the function N. Unfortunately the spec makes 
it implemention defined what N does with text. In OOo N returns 0 for 
text, which I think is useful. In LO it returns #VALUE although the help 
saws it would return 0. So this behavior seems a bug to me in the N 
function. Otherwise I would have recommend to use N(C1)-N(B1) instead of 
C1-B1.


I notice, that Tom has already found the solution, to enter 0 and format 
it to show - .


Kind regards
Regina










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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not understood properly by MS Office 2010

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Please file a bug-report
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

rant
Oh, you know you can use it happily and safely.  It's just MS trying to force 
people to buy their product by pretending that other things are suspicious.  
Why 
people continue to believe MS is beyond me.  There are so many reports over the 
years about their formats being infected or transmitting malware (by their 
style 
of macros mostly and ActiveX if that's used) whereas absolutely none seem to 
have been transmitted by Open Document Formats.  


However, it does mean that you can't send anything to MS users without looking 
either bad or superior (depending on the person but usually bad).  


People that want to appear to be security concious use MS products with stacks 
of anti-malware and intriguingly sophisticated ways of working to avoid or 
check 
sites they visit.  But people that are really serious about security and just 
want to run robust systems without spending hours and hours on keeping it  free 
from malware run a *nix and OpenSource rather than risking letting malware hide 
in proprietary code that no-one can read or fix.  Intriguingly most anti-virus 
programs claim that about 20% of Windows machines are infected but MS produced 
one that claimed it was more like 80% and this was heralded as a good thing 
because the MS antivirus was 'more thorough'.  Despite false positives and all 
that i still think that 100% or Windows machines are infected as Windows itself 
acts more like a trojan than most trojans imo.  

/rant

The important thing is perception.  While you are safe and your files are safe 
people wont tend to believe that and it might damage their long-term view of 
how 
much they can trust you.  


Regards from
Tom :)





- Original Message 
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 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 15:18:31
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not 
understood properly by MS Office 2010
 
 LibreOffice Writer 3.4.0 running under Windows 7 64-bit.
 
 Problem 1  reproduction -
 * Start Writer
 * Create a document and type in a few words,  nothing special or extravagant
 * Save as an .odt file
 * Load into MS  Office 2010
 
 Error message:
 The file filename cannot be opened  because there are problems with the
 contents.
 
 Details
 The file is  corrupt and cannot be opened.
 
 Clicking OK asks if you want to recover the  contents of the document. The
 recovered document is correct and  uncorrupted.
 
 -
 
 Problem 2 reproduction -
 * Start Writer
 *  Create another document and type in a few words
 * Save as a .doc file  (97/2000/XP)
 * Load into MS Office 2010
 
 Red toolbar  message:
 Protected view - Office has detected a problem with this file.  Editing it
 may harm your computer. Click here for details.
 
 It is then  possible to click Edit anyway and get on with things. The
 loaded file is  correct and uncorrupted.
 
 ---
 
 In the past I've never had problems  with basic files working between both
 word processors, but something has  happened which is causing Office 2010 to
 dislike both the .doc and .odt  versions of the files LO is saving. This is
 not a good thing. I'll refrain  from calling it a bug in case there's an
 option within LO which can save the  files in such a way as to pacify Office
 2010. Otherwise I can't trust it to  be usable in a mixed environment.
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not understood properly by MS Office 2010

2011-06-04 Thread At0mic
The whole open source/proprietary war is pointless because each side uses
lies and hyperbole to win various arguments. The open source side is not
innocent of using FUD, sorry. Windows 7 is nice, better than most Linux
distros for desktop use in my opinion, and no-one is going to change my mind
by spewing anti-MS comments that do not negate the flaws in the competition.
I dislike Microsoft as much as the next person, but I (currently) despise a
lot about Linux for desktop use as well, hence the use of Windows 7.

Needless to say this doesn't have anything to do with my problem. This
problem I'm having has never happened to me before (at least with
OpenOffice), so I'm wondering what's going on. I can live with a few
comparability issues such as formatting, but if Writer is writing a broken
form of the .doc format when it used to work, I'd like to know what's going
on.

Interestingly enough, the .docx format works perfectly for my little test...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not understood properly by MS Office 2010

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Agreed, well mostly.  I think filing a bug-report about it is important.

Win7 is a huge improvement.

Lol about the docX format coming out unflagged.  As you know that is the one we 
usually have most trouble with.  The old doc is usually fine except for a few 
pics and boxs moving around slightly sometimes.  

Regards from
Tom :)




- Original Message 
 From: At0mic atomicbutterfl...@gmail.com
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 15:53:05
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files 
 not 
understood properly by MS Office 2010
 
 The whole open source/proprietary war is pointless because each side  uses
 lies and hyperbole to win various arguments. The open source side is  not
 innocent of using FUD, sorry. Windows 7 is nice, better than most  Linux
 distros for desktop use in my opinion, and no-one is going to change my  mind
 by spewing anti-MS comments that do not negate the flaws in the  competition.
 I dislike Microsoft as much as the next person, but I  (currently) despise a
 lot about Linux for desktop use as well, hence the use  of Windows 7.
 
 Needless to say this doesn't have anything to do with my  problem. This
 problem I'm having has never happened to me before (at least  with
 OpenOffice), so I'm wondering what's going on. I can live with a  few
 comparability issues such as formatting, but if Writer is writing a  broken
 form of the .doc format when it used to work, I'd like to know what's  going
 on.
 
 Interestingly enough, the .docx format works perfectly for  my little test...
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not understood properly by MS Office 2010

2011-06-04 Thread At0mic
BTW, don't take the above personally Tom. Wasn't directly at you personally.
I'm just not a fan of reading rants when I've got a critical issue on my
hands. 

But thank you for the Bugzilla link. It helped direct me to this:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37516

It's for the .doc problem. Looks like they don't consider a big fat warning
to be a blocking bug. Oh well, not like I'm paying for LibreOffice. Can't
complain right?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not understood properly by MS Office 2010

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It wasn't taken personally, don't worry.  The important bit of the 1st mail was 
the link, i bracketed the rest ;)  


I think the bug is new.  It might be producing the same result as a previous 
bug 
but it's not happened in 3.3.2 or 3.3.1 or even 3.3.0 afaik so it needs to be 
fixed.  And for the odt too :)
Regards from
Tom :)





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 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files 
 not 
understood properly by MS Office 2010
 
 BTW, don't take the above personally Tom. Wasn't directly at you  personally.
 I'm just not a fan of reading rants when I've got a critical  issue on my
 hands. 
 
 But thank you for the Bugzilla link. It helped  direct me to this:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37516
 
 It's for the .doc  problem. Looks like they don't consider a big fat warning
 to be a blocking  bug. Oh well, not like I'm paying for LibreOffice. Can't
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not understood properly by MS Office 2010

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Ahh great to see you have a valid doc from 3.3.2 aswell as the wrong one from 
3.4.0 at
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37516
That might help the devs pinpoint the problem, hopefully.  Imo it's fine to 
complain about a Free product especially if you complain to the right people so 
that they can fix the problem.  It's the only way things are likely to get 
noticed and fixed.  And anyway it wasn't really a 'complaint' more of a 
question 
about it not working.

It's all good and hopefully that will get fixed but it might take a while
Apols and regards from
Tom :)



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 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files 
 not 
understood properly by MS Office 2010
 
 BTW, don't take the above personally Tom. Wasn't directly at you  personally.
 I'm just not a fan of reading rants when I've got a critical  issue on my
 hands. 
 
 But thank you for the Bugzilla link. It helped  direct me to this:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37516
 
 It's for the .doc  problem. Looks like they don't consider a big fat warning
 to be a blocking  bug. Oh well, not like I'm paying for LibreOffice. Can't
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Re: [libreoffice-users] 3.4 install errors

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
This is in Windows?  There shouldn't be any errors although the one about 
winamp 
skins seems to be nothing to do with LibreOffice so i wonder if the rest are 
relevant or not.  No idea, sorry :(
Regards from
Tom :)



- Original Message 
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 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 9:00:59
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] 3.4 install errors
 
 Doing a new install of 3.4 , 64 bit on Xubuntu I get these errors  -
 
 
 Processing triggers for shared-mime-info ...
 Unknown media type  in type 'all/all'
 
 Unknown media type in type  'all/allfiles'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms'
 
 Unknown media  type in type 'uri/mmst'
 
 Unknown media type in type  'uri/mmsu'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm'
 
 Unknown media type  in type 'uri/rtspt'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu'
 
 Unknown  media type in type 'fonts/package'
 
 Unknown media type in type  'interface/x-winamp-skin'
 
 Are these important?
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Have you already posted a bug-report about this or is there already one at 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
It might be worth posting one even if you don't have time to search through for 
one.  Triagers are quite smart about doing that and linking similar bugs 
together.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)



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 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 8:59:37
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save
 
 I'm suffering the same problem.
 OO Base 3.2 workd fine. Having upgraded to LO  3.3 (and tried OO 3.3), any
 date format field cannot have a default date  set.
 My prior embedded HSQL database (from OO2.x, used in OO3.2) doesn't work  -
 the set default date enters nonsense in the field, which obviously  then
 errors since it doesn't fit the date format. Hence, no new entries can  be
 made.
 Deleting the default date works OK.
 However, I don't enter the  date in my form - it is always today - so I
 simply edit the table each  day before starting data entry. This no longer
 works, making LO3.3+ unusable  for me.
 The workaround of using SQL each day is unsatisfactory (and this was  not
 necessary for 3.2).
 (Tried LO/OO3.3 on Ubuntu 10.10   11.04)
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Save as (export) to Excel 2003/2007

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Is this still a problem?  Have you been able to fix it?  There might be another 
question related to this one now.
Regards from
Tom :)



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 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 1:10:57
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Save as (export) to Excel 2003/2007
 
 Hi
 
 On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 15:38 +0100, PLO wrote:
 
  Hello LO  Users,
  
   Has anyone had any problems exporting to MS Excel  2003 and 2007 formats? I
   tried exporting a spreadsheet with 8  sheets, with cash flow forecasts on
   each sheet, so no complex  functions or anything, and when saving to Excel
   2007 format Calc  crashed, and when saving to Excel 2003 format an error
   popped up  about not being able to write the file.
  
  -- 
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  #22490. Hi Grow Owed Ens? ¶
  
  Auxiliary  Information:
   • LibreOffice 3.4.0 OOO340m1 (Build:12)
• Windows XP Pro 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3
 
 Generally exporting to Excel  2003 and earlier is trouble free if there
 no macros. You might have feature  or function that behaves badly
 otherwise. Conversion to 2007 and 2010 are  dodgy at best even with
 relatively simple files. I understand it is worse  with 2010.
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Impress and Hardware Acceleration

2011-06-04 Thread Ilja Gerhardt
Hi LOers!

I am having some trouble when switching to presentation mode (F5) and
having some transparent fillings in my presentation. With the hardware
acceleration on, they mostly look like grayish areas, although they have
nice colourful fillings in editing mode.

If I turn off the hardware acceleration, everything looks fine, but is
impressing slow.

Any clue where to tune the color settings for my hardware acceleration?
I am working with Linux-i64, Ubuntu, the usual stuff...

Cheers...



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Re: [libreoffice-users] 3.4 install errors

2011-06-04 Thread Nuno J. Silva
Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk writes:

 Tinker rhianma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Doing a new install of 3.4 , 64 bit on Xubuntu I get these errors  -
 
 
 Processing triggers for shared-mime-info ...
 Unknown media type  in type 'all/all'
[...]
 Unknown media type in type  'interface/x-winamp-skin'
 
 Are these important?

 This is in Windows?

No, the OP mentioned Xubuntu, a variant of Ubuntu GNU/Linux.

  There shouldn't be any errors although the one about winamp 
 skins seems to be nothing to do with LibreOffice so i wonder if the rest are 
 relevant or not.  No idea, sorry :(

These errors are related to MIME-types. shared-mime-info is a
system-wide database (that is, some XML files) of MIME-types, and it is
used by some applications for type detection.

It is not part of LibreOffice. Here, the package manager is processing
that database after installing a package. 

Either the LibO package says hey, I'm adding some MIME-types, rebuild
the list or the package manager always rebuilds it after installing
something.

I don't know if these messages are /important/. My guess is that they
aren't, it's just some file that has information about MIME-types that
don't exist.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not understood properly by MS Office 2010

2011-06-04 Thread Gianluca Turconi
In data 04 giugno 2011 alle ore 17:02:30, At0mic  
atomicbutterfl...@gmail.com ha scritto:


It's for the .doc problem. Looks like they don't consider a big fat  
warning

to be a blocking bug. Oh well, not like I'm paying for LibreOffice. Can't
complain right?


Please file your complain in bugzilla.

More users do it more attention is attracted from this major, IMO, bug.

Regards,

Gianluca

P.S. I still don't get that stupid warning in my MS Office version! :(
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not understood properly by MS Office 2010

2011-06-04 Thread Manfred J. Krause
Hi,

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 17:02, At0mic wrote:
 [...]

 But thank you for the Bugzilla link. It helped direct me to this:
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37516

 It's for the .doc problem. Looks like they don't consider a big fat warning
 to be a blocking bug. Oh well, not like I'm paying for LibreOffice. Can't
 complain right?

Bug 37516: 'Importance' is 'highest / major'.
That bug is also mentioned in the 'Release Notes for LibreOffice 3.4.0
Final (2011-06-03)' [1]:

There are a few issues still contained in this release, which will be
addressed soon with upcoming bug fix releases [2]:
[...]
MS Office 2010 complains about damaged MS Office 2003/XP documents
created by LibreOffice 3.4 (fdo#37516)
[...]

[1] https://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/#LO340
[2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#3.4_release

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Re: [libreoffice-users] 3.4 install errors

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Good point.  I hadn't noticed Xubuntu in large friendly letters at the top but 
just noticed the tiny mention of winamp which i didn't think worked even 
using 
Wine.  


Xubuntu has a boot-menu that includes 2 lines for each kernel.  The 2nd ones 
have recovery mode at the end of their line.  Choosing that option should get 
you to a disturbingly blue screen of helpful things like fix broken packages, 
clear some space and finally continue with normal reboot.  


You could also try accessing the Fix broken packages through Synaptic
Applications(?) - System - Administration - Synaptic
and then look in Synaptic's Edit menu.

There might also be a Computer Janitor or Janitor somewhere above Synaptic 
in the same menu that should do about the same as Clear some space.

Regards from
Tom :)




- Original Message 
 From: Nuno J. Silva nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 17:07:09
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] 3.4 install errors
 
 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk  writes:
 
  Tinker rhianma...@gmail.com  wrote:
  
  Doing a new install of 3.4 , 64 bit on Xubuntu I  get these errors  -
  
  
  Processing  triggers for shared-mime-info ...
  Unknown media type  in type  'all/all'
 [...]
  Unknown media type in type   'interface/x-winamp-skin'
  
  Are these  important?
 
  This is in Windows?
 
 No, the OP mentioned  Xubuntu, a variant of Ubuntu GNU/Linux.
 
   There shouldn't be any  errors although the one about winamp 
  skins seems to be nothing to do  with LibreOffice so i wonder if the rest 
  are 

  relevant or not.  No  idea, sorry :(
 
 These errors are related to MIME-types. shared-mime-info  is a
 system-wide database (that is, some XML files) of MIME-types, and it  is
 used by some applications for type detection.
 
 It is not part of  LibreOffice. Here, the package manager is processing
 that database after  installing a package. 
 
 Either the LibO package says hey, I'm adding some  MIME-types, rebuild
 the list or the package manager always rebuilds it after  installing
 something.
 
 I don't know if these messages are /important/.  My guess is that they
 aren't, it's just some file that has information about  MIME-types that
 don't exist.
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread plino

Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
 
 If you use count on a range it only counts numeric cells, but 
 counta counts numeric and non-empty cells, so if they don't give 
 the same results for the same range, there is an error?
 

Yes, that would work but it forces me to do this verification for each
column. And still it won't tell me where the error is (although I can find
it with some filters)

It would be much better if there was some AI in these functions warning me
that Data in Cell A12345 is not a number.  What do you want to do? A) Jump
to cell A12345 and manually fix it or B) Ignore this warning and Sum all
other cells?

Why not use the computing power of the PC to help us?

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[libreoffice-users] Re:

2011-06-04 Thread Ismael Caballero
Jean-Christophe CUGNIERE jcc.ha at free.fr writes:

 
 Hi,
 Hereunder is my problem,
 
 I have 3 computers in a samba network
 - Dell7 under windows7
 - UbuntuT61 under ubuntu 11.04
 - thintkpadr60 with two partitions :
  - Ubuntur60 under ubuntu 11.04
  - Sevenr60 under windows7
 They all have a session with the same user and have shared folders, they 
 all use libreOffice.
 
 When, being in an ubuntu session of thethinkpadr60  i try to save a 
 libreoffice file in a samba shared folder i have the reply erreur lors 
 de l'enregistrement du document XXX:
 erreur générale
 erreur d'entrée/sortie générale
 save as;ubuntur60;towards ubuntur60;works
 save as;ubuntur60;towards sevenr60;works
 save as;ubuntur60;towards dell7;erreur générale
 save as;ubuntur60;towards ubuntut61;erreur générale
 save as;from any system except ubuntur60;file on ubuntur60;towards any 
 system of the network;works
 save as;from ubuntur60;with any other soft;towards any system;works
 
 I would like to emphasize that every saving works except on this 
 partition towards the samba networks.
 I have tried to uninstall libreOffice without success.
 I have tried to re-install Ubuntu without any success, my next step will 
 be to try and go back to ubuntu 10 and OpenOffice (too bad !)
 
 Any suggestion will be a pleasure.
 
 Christophe
 jcc.ha at free.fr
 
Hi,

I have the same problem, I’m using a samba server 10.04 LTS, terminals whit 
Ubuntu desktop 11.04 and LibreOffice 3.3.
I using connect to server - windows share folder, to use the personal folder 
of each user on the server.
When i open a file from that folder whit LibreOffice and i try to save as any 
folder i receive the same error than you.

Have you founded any solution to that issue?

Sincerely,

Ismael Caballero.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Brian Barker

At 06:06 04/06/2011 -0700, Nobody Noname wrote:
Actually I had never noticed that spreadsheets (all including Excel) 
ignore text values mixed with numbers. This worries me a lot!  I 
work with 300.000+ line spreadsheets and if one line has a text 
value (because of a typo) I wouldn't notice that.  Is there any 
setting that triggers a warning (instead of ignoring the cell(s)) in 
this situation?


One useful facility in this case is Value Highlighting.  Go to View | 
Value Highlighting or press Ctrl+F8.  The font colour for text 
(temporarily) becomes black, for numbers and other values blue, and 
for formulae green.  (Formulae should be no problem, since it's 
possible to construct them sufficiently carefully that you can be 
sure of the type of the result, of course.)  Repeat the process to 
toggle the facility back off.


Not that I'd want to go looking through 300,000 blue values looking 
for a rogue black one ...


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread plino

Brian Barker wrote:
 
 One useful facility in this case is Value Highlighting.  Go to View | 
 Value Highlighting or press Ctrl+F8.  The font colour for text 
 (temporarily) becomes black, for numbers and other values blue, and 
 for formulae green.  (Formulae should be no problem, since it's 
 possible to construct them sufficiently carefully that you can be 
 sure of the type of the result, of course.)  Repeat the process to 
 toggle the facility back off.
 

I didn't know that. Could be useful sometime ;)

If I wanted to visually check I would use Conditional formatting and set
Font to Red and Bold and the Background to Bright Yellow :)

But as you said, I really don't want to browse 300.000 lines to spot errors
;)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2011/6/4 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de:
 Hi prholland,

 prholland schrieb:

 The following screenshot is taken from a spreadsheet that previously
 showed
 00:00 in LibreOffice 3.3.2, where LibreOffice 3.4.0 is now showing
 #VALUE! (NB: all the cells are formatted as Time values, and the text
 cells contain -):

 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3023141/%23VALUE-screenshot.png

 The ODF spec has some rules for converting text to numbers. Those conversion
 is different whether the text occurs in a simple calculation with operator
 or the text occurs in a range in function SUM or similar. As LO claims to
 follow ODF spec, it has to respect this.

 In future you have to respect, that + - * / ^ will not work on text. You
 have to ensure, that the operands are numbers.

 In OOo this can be done by the function N. Unfortunately the spec makes it
 implemention defined what N does with text. In OOo N returns 0 for text,
 which I think is useful. In LO it returns #VALUE although the help saws it
 would return 0. So this behavior seems a bug to me in the N function.
 Otherwise I would have recommend to use N(C1)-N(B1) instead of C1-B1.

 I notice, that Tom has already found the solution, to enter 0 and format it
 to show - .

 Kind regards
 Regina

Someone would better file a bug report then, right?


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
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[libreoffice-users] LO 3.4.0 language pack for EN-US?

2011-06-04 Thread bunk3m
I was going to download v3.4.0 but the site shows null for the
language pack (en-us).  I checked the Other ways to download but
couldn't find it.

Where is it?

Thanks.
Bunkem

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Johnny,

Johnny Rosenberg schrieb:

2011/6/4 Regina Henschelrb.hensc...@t-online.de:

[..]

In OOo this can be done by the function N. Unfortunately the spec makes it
implemention defined what N does with text. In OOo N returns 0 for text,
which I think is useful. In LO it returns #VALUE although the help saws it
would return 0. So this behavior seems a bug to me in the N function.
Otherwise I would have recommend to use N(C1)-N(B1) instead of C1-B1.


[..]


Someone would better file a bug report then, right?


It is already there https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33705

Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.4.0 language pack for EN-US?

2011-06-04 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi bunk3m,

bunk3m schrieb:

I was going to download v3.4.0 but the site shows null for the
language pack (en-us).  I checked the Other ways to download but
couldn't find it.

Where is it?


There are no language pack, but Englisch helppacks
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

Click on Helppacks to open the list.

Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.4.0 language pack for EN-US?

2011-06-04 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi bunk3m,

I was a little bit short in my answer.
bunk3m schrieb:

I was going to download v3.4.0 but the site shows null for the
language pack (en-us).  I checked the Other ways to download but
couldn't find it.

Where is it?


Click on Other ways  3.4.0  Your OS.
Depending on your OS you might have an en-US version or a multi 
version. In both cases you do not need a language pack but only the 
helppack. en-US UI is always included.


Kind regards
Regina


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.4.0 language pack for EN-US?

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think most of the language packs are inside the main download this time.  I 
think US is the default language too.  The 3.4.0 is for early adopters so it 
might be better to stay with 3.3.2 for now.
Regards from
Tom :)





- Original Message 
 From: bunk3m bun...@gmail.com
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 19:48:37
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO 3.4.0 language pack for EN-US?
 
 I was going to download v3.4.0 but the site shows null for the
 language  pack (en-us).  I checked the Other ways to download but
 couldn't find  it.
 
 Where is it?
 
 Thanks.
 Bunkem
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2011/6/4 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de:
 Hi Johnny,

 Johnny Rosenberg schrieb:

 2011/6/4 Regina Henschelrb.hensc...@t-online.de:

 [..]

 In OOo this can be done by the function N. Unfortunately the spec makes
 it
 implemention defined what N does with text. In OOo N returns 0 for
 text,
 which I think is useful. In LO it returns #VALUE although the help saws
 it
 would return 0. So this behavior seems a bug to me in the N function.
 Otherwise I would have recommend to use N(C1)-N(B1) instead of C1-B1.

 [..]

 Someone would better file a bug report then, right?

 It is already there https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33705

 Kind regards
 Regina

Oops… unfortunately I already wrote one. I tried to search but failed.
Got that ”internal server error” thing when searching.

I can't see how to vote for it, though.


Kind regards

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re:

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies




- Original Message 
 From: Ismael Caballero ism...@adinet.com.uy
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Fri, 3 June, 2011 15:32:15
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: 
 
 Jean-Christophe CUGNIERE jcc.ha at free.fr writes:
 
  
  Hi,
  Hereunder is my problem,
  
  I have 3  computers in a samba network
  - Dell7 under windows7
  - UbuntuT61  under ubuntu 11.04
  - thintkpadr60 with two partitions :
- Ubuntur60 under ubuntu 11.04
   -  Sevenr60 under windows7
  They all have a session with the same user and  have shared folders, they 
  all use libreOffice.
  
  When,  being in an ubuntu session of thethinkpadr60  i try to save a 
   libreoffice file in a samba shared folder i have the reply erreur lors 
   de l'enregistrement du document XXX:
  erreur générale
  erreur  d'entrée/sortie générale
  save as;ubuntur60;towards  ubuntur60;works
  save as;ubuntur60;towards sevenr60;works
  save  as;ubuntur60;towards dell7;erreur générale
  save as;ubuntur60;towards  ubuntut61;erreur générale
  save as;from any system except ubuntur60;file  on ubuntur60;towards any 
  system of the network;works
  save  as;from ubuntur60;with any other soft;towards any system;works
  
   I would like to emphasize that every saving works except on this 
   partition towards the samba networks.
  I have tried to uninstall  libreOffice without success.
  I have tried to re-install Ubuntu without  any success, my next step will 
  be to try and go back to ubuntu 10 and  OpenOffice (too bad !)
  
  Any suggestion will be a  pleasure.
  
  Christophe
  jcc.ha at free.fr
  
 Hi,
 
 I have the same problem, I’m using a samba server 10.04 LTS,  terminals whit 
 Ubuntu desktop 11.04 and LibreOffice 3.3.
 I using connect  to server - windows share folder, to use the personal folder 
 of each user on  the server.
 When i open a file from that folder whit LibreOffice and i try to  save as 
 any 

 folder i receive the same error than you.
 
 Have you  founded any solution to that issue?
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Ismael  Caballero.
 



Hi :)
For some reason your message got delayed for a few days so you might want to 
ask 
the question again and perhaps cc it to the person you were mainly aiming at.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies




- Original Message 
 From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 20:27:51
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: Has anyone tested the 
backward-compatibility of LibreOffice 3.4?
 
 2011/6/4 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de:
   Hi Johnny,
 
  Johnny Rosenberg schrieb:
 
   2011/6/4 Regina Henschelrb.hensc...@t-online.de:
 
   [..]
 
  In OOo this can be done by the function N.  Unfortunately the spec makes
  it
  implemention  defined what N does with text. In OOo N returns 0 for
   text,
  which I think is useful. In LO it returns #VALUE although  the help saws
  it
  would return 0. So this  behavior seems a bug to me in the N function.
  Otherwise I would  have recommend to use N(C1)-N(B1) instead of C1-B1.
 
   [..]
 
  Someone would better file a bug report then,  right?
 
  It is already there https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33705
 
  Kind  regards
  Regina
 
 Oops… unfortunately I already wrote one. I tried  to search but failed.
 Got that ”internal server error” thing when  searching.
 
 I can't see how to vote for it, though.
 
 
 Kind  regards
 
 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ
 


Hi :)
Me too, i don't know how to vote either.  I think the triagers are able to link 
bug-reports together if you have posted a new one or perhaps you could help 
them 
and link it yourself?  I think that any activity like that tends to bump the 
thread so that people notice it again.  I think writing a comment also bumps it 
but that's frowned on.
Regards from
Tom :)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] 3.4 install errors

2011-06-04 Thread planas
Tinker

On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 01:00 -0700, Tinker wrote:

 Doing a new install of 3.4 , 64 bit on Xubuntu I get these errors -
 
 
 Processing triggers for shared-mime-info ...
 Unknown media type in type 'all/all'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'fonts/package'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'interface/x-winamp-skin'
 
 Are these important?
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.4.0 language pack for EN-US?

2011-06-04 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2011/06/04 12:48 PM  bunk3m wrote:

I was going to download v3.4.0 but the site shows null for the
language pack (en-us).  I checked the Other ways to download but
couldn't find it.
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ shows LibO_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg 173 MB as 
being available for Macs. You do not need a separate en-us language pack for it since that is 
the default language.


Language packs are added to the default versions for people using a different 
language.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is this list unmoderated?

2011-06-04 Thread Roland Hughes
Not only that, but that group is also the only ones bottom posting.

On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 21:10 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 11:05:45AM +0200, James Wilde wrote:
  
  Personally I think mailing lists are so last century and nerdy, and that we 
  should be using a forum which non-technical users like
 
 Which is precisely the reason I dislike forums. Way too many brainless
 questions from users (and I use the term loosely) who barely know how to
 turn on their computer. 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] 3.4 install errors

2011-06-04 Thread Roland Hughes
It's a Ubuntu bug if I remember correctly.  Something which got hosed
with one of the updates having to do with fonts.  A later update makes
it go away.

On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 01:00 -0700, Tinker wrote:

 Doing a new install of 3.4 , 64 bit on Xubuntu I get these errors -
 
 
 Processing triggers for shared-mime-info ...
 Unknown media type in type 'all/all'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'fonts/package'
 
 Unknown media type in type 'interface/x-winamp-skin'
 
 Are these important?
 
 
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RE: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not understood properly by MS Office 2010

2011-06-04 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I've looked into this.

FOR THE ODT FILES ONLY:

The problem is that Microsoft supports ODF 1.1.  The later versions of LO (and 
OO.o) anticipate ODF 1.2 and by default use ODF 1.2-only features of the 
manifest in the ODT package.   The Microsoft ODF 1.1 implementations do not 
recognize those features and considers there to be something wrong.  If you let 
Word attempt to correct the document it will, and it will be fine.  (The only 
way it would not be fine is if the document was encrypted using something other 
than the default encryption that exists for ODF 1.1.  But Office won't accept 
any kind of encrypted ODF document, so the ODF 1.2 differences don't matter.)

Then you have the reverse problem.  If you save from Word as an ODT and take it 
back to one of these recent LO (and OO.o) versions, they will sometimes report 
that the ODF 1.1 that Office produced is corrupt.  (This appears to be related 
to their being some files in the package, such as for images, that are not in 
the manifest.)  If you let the LO (and OO.o) product attempt to correct it 
will and everything should work fine.

The problem is that the corruption message is heavy-handed and there are 
different ways where the down-level 1.1 and up-level 1.2-ready products are 
unforgiving, even though it is something that they can fix.  Also, if there 
really is a document corruption, as opposed to one of those correctable 
matters, we can't tell.

FOR THE DOC FILES:

I have not encountered or explored that.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: At0mic [mailto:atomicbutterfl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 07:19
To: users@libreoffice.org
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not 
understood properly by MS Office 2010

LibreOffice Writer 3.4.0 running under Windows 7 64-bit.

Problem 1 reproduction -
* Start Writer
* Create a document and type in a few words, nothing special or extravagant
* Save as an .odt file
* Load into MS Office 2010

Error message:
The file filename cannot be opened because there are problems with the 
contents.

Details
The file is corrupt and cannot be opened.

Clicking OK asks if you want to recover the contents of the document. The 
recovered document is correct and uncorrupted.

-

Problem 2 reproduction -
* Start Writer
* Create another document and type in a few words
* Save as a .doc file (97/2000/XP)
* Load into MS Office 2010

Red toolbar message:
Protected view - Office has detected a problem with this file. Editing it may 
harm your computer. Click here for details.

It is then possible to click Edit anyway and get on with things. The loaded 
file is correct and uncorrupted.

---

In the past I've never had problems with basic files working between both word 
processors, but something has happened which is causing Office 2010 to dislike 
both the .doc and .odt versions of the files LO is saving. This is not a good 
thing. I'll refrain from calling it a bug in case there's an option within LO 
which can save the files in such a way as to pacify Office 2010. Otherwise I 
can't trust it to be usable in a mixed environment.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Is this list unmoderated?

2011-06-04 Thread Ken Springer

On 6/4/11 5:00 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:


Or for the dozenth time... the project deploy a solution that makes
everyone happy - a federated forum / list solution.


Maybe you should make it. almost everyone happy.  :: grin ::


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not understood properly by MS Office 2010

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Good work and interesting :)  You can change which ODF Format Version 
LibreOffice uses by going to the Tools menu 

Tools - Options - Load/Save - General - ODF Format Version
and change the drop-down from 1.2 Extended to 1.0/1.1.

Thanks Dennis, regards all from
Tom :)




- Original Message 
 From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 21:35:24
 Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files 
 not 
understood properly by MS Office 2010
 
 I've looked into this.
 
 FOR THE ODT FILES ONLY:
 
 The problem is that  Microsoft supports ODF 1.1.  The later versions of LO 
 (and 
OO.o) anticipate  ODF 1.2 and by default use ODF 1.2-only features of the 
manifest in the ODT  package.   The Microsoft ODF 1.1 implementations do not 
recognize those  features and considers there to be something wrong.  If you 
let 
Word  attempt to correct the document it will, and it will be fine.  (The 
only  
way it would not be fine is if the document was encrypted using something 
other  
than the default encryption that exists for ODF 1.1.  But Office won't  accept 
any kind of encrypted ODF document, so the ODF 1.2 differences don't  matter.)
 
 Then you have the reverse problem.  If you save from Word  as an ODT and take 
it back to one of these recent LO (and OO.o) versions, they  will sometimes 
report that the ODF 1.1 that Office produced is corrupt.   (This appears to be 
related to their being some files in the package, such as  for images, that 
are 
not in the manifest.)  If you let the LO (and OO.o)  product attempt to 
correct it will and everything should work fine.
 
 The  problem is that the corruption message is heavy-handed and there are 
different  ways where the down-level 1.1 and up-level 1.2-ready products are 
unforgiving,  even though it is something that they can fix.  Also, if there 
really is a  document corruption, as opposed to one of those correctable 
matters, we can't  tell.
 
 FOR THE DOC FILES:
 
 I have not encountered or explored  that.
 
  - Dennis
 
 -Original Message-
 From: At0mic  [mailto:atomicbutterfl...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 07:19
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Subject:  [libreoffice-users] LO Writer 3.4.0 --- basic .doc/.odt files not 
understood  properly by MS Office 2010
 
 LibreOffice Writer 3.4.0 running under Windows  7 64-bit.
 
 Problem 1 reproduction -
 * Start Writer
 * Create a  document and type in a few words, nothing special or extravagant
 * Save as an  .odt file
 * Load into MS Office 2010
 
 Error message:
 The file  filename cannot be opened because there are problems with the  
contents.
 
 Details
 The file is corrupt and cannot be  opened.
 
 Clicking OK asks if you want to recover the contents of the  document. The 
recovered document is correct and  uncorrupted.
 
 -
 
 Problem 2 reproduction -
 * Start Writer
 *  Create another document and type in a few words
 * Save as a .doc file  (97/2000/XP)
 * Load into MS Office 2010
 
 Red toolbar  message:
 Protected view - Office has detected a problem with this file.  Editing it 
 may 
harm your computer. Click here for details.
 
 It is then  possible to click Edit anyway and get on with things. The 
 loaded 
file is  correct and uncorrupted.
 
 ---
 
 In the past I've never had problems  with basic files working between both 
 word 
processors, but something has  happened which is causing Office 2010 to 
dislike 
both the .doc and .odt versions  of the files LO is saving. This is not a good 
thing. I'll refrain from calling  it a bug in case there's an option within LO 
which can save the files in such a  way as to pacify Office 2010. Otherwise I 
can't trust it to be usable in a mixed  environment.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] error in menu for tools/language/for selection or for paragraph

2011-06-04 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


OK
I think I know a little more than what is stated below.

Since English is what I have as my default language, if I do not have 
any non-English words in the text selected, then I get the error.


Now when I add text that is Spanish, the options gives me a number of 
different Spanish dictionaries to choose from.  When I add French text 
to the document, then it gives me French as an option for the text.


NICE how the system knows what languages are involved.

So the error only happens when I have ALL English text and try to choose 
a different language than English.



On 06/04/2011 09:48 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I found an issue with

ToolsLanguageFor Selection  or For Paragraph.

I am using 3.3.2 DEB 64-bit

When I try to select a language to for a selected text or a paragraph, 
the link/option goes to the Character menu and to choose a 
background color.


I have not tried this since 3.3.0 or 3.3.1, but I know it worked 
before [it could have been the Windows version though].  It use to go 
to a nice menu showing me a list or language dictionary files I had 
installed.  Now it just goes to the Character options.


Is this a know bug, and being worked on, or is there some issue with 
my install?


LibreOffice 3.3.2
OOO330m19 (Build:202)
tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2
Ubuntu 10.04LTS 64-bit





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