[libreoffice-users] Extension Manager Runtime exception

2011-08-16 Thread Onyeibo Oku
I'm trying to package an extension for Calc. so far, the preamble seems okay. 
But Extension manager chokes on the embedded python macro

Says 'XSCRIPTCONTEXT' is not defined. The scripts work when I put them in 
user/.libreoffice/3/user/Scripts/python so I must be missing something in the 
extension packaging. 

I see from the error message that its trying to install the extension in the 
user's libreoffice directory. What if I want that code installed in 
Libreoffice's standard directory? Is that possible? How do I do it? Comments 
and suggestions are welcome.

Regards
Onyeibo
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Extension Manager Runtime exception

2011-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I don't know if this is helpful but the Macro chapter in the Getting Started 
Guide got updated a few days ago
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation
There is an additional chapter in the Calc Guide but that is still on it's 
first 
version.  


If you scroll down to the bottom of that page there 'should' be a link to the 
book by Andrew Pitonyak (?speeling?) which is excellent and well worth getting 
if you are really into Macros.

Hopefully someone else on this list might be able to give specific help this 
time but some of those guides might help you get a deeper understanding of it 
all if that's what you are looking for.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)





From: Onyeibo Oku twoho...@gmail.com
To: Libre, Users users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 7:46:53
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Extension Manager Runtime exception

I'm trying to package an extension for Calc. so far, the preamble seems okay. 
But Extension manager chokes on the embedded python macro

Says 'XSCRIPTCONTEXT' is not defined. The scripts work when I put them in 
user/.libreoffice/3/user/Scripts/python so I must be missing something in the 
extension packaging. 


I see from the error message that its trying to install the extension in the 
user's libreoffice directory. What if I want that code installed in 
Libreoffice's standard directory? Is that possible? How do I do it? Comments 
and 
suggestions are welcome.

Regards
Onyeibo
-
from twohot@device.mobile :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.2 Spellcheck Not Working....

2011-08-16 Thread Guy Voets
2011/8/12  nicholasdono...@netscape.net:
 Any progress on this issue?  I've installed it on 4 different systems, with 
 different operating systems
  and have the sme issue, spell-check does not work.

 Any chance of a patch?

Hi,

Spell checking works fina on Mac Lion, LibO 3.4.2 in Portuguese (BR) and Dutch.
Did you install langpacks and such?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with combo box

2011-08-16 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2011/8/16 Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de:
 There is more than one way and you are free to do whatever you want. It is
 just me who suggests a better solution. Form controls used to be in there
 since version 1.
 As a matter of fact, most of their functionality is tailored for database
 fields. Form controls used to be in Excel since many years, so they added
 the interfaces that are needed to bind them to sheet cells.

 Data validation by cell ranges has been introduced in version 2.0 because it
 is in Excel and list/combo boxes are inappropriate in many cases. In version
 2.3 they added support for validation by dynamic cell ranges (OFFSET, INDEX,
 INDIRECT and such).

 A typical example of what most people want to do:

 http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/download/file.php?id=8592

 refer to the first sheet, columns labeled Category and Name.
 We can not know what you are trying to do exactly, but certainly you don't
 want 1000 form controls.

 Another example of the dynamic ranges that do work since version 2.3:

 http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/download/file.php?id=333

I have never seen that validation thing before, but I can see it is
useful, and it will probably solve a few of my problems I've had that
I previously gave up on… :D

Still there are cases when form controls are the right way to go, for
example when needing a way to start a macro manually with a button or
something.


Best regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2011-08-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:58:08 +0300
Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:

Hello Stan,

 Why is it necessary for one of us to hand-massage individual cases?

Because there's a percentage of people that expect everything to be done
for them.  They're called lazy people.

 Does it  satisfy a hidden social need to do so?

Why are you accusing those that do assist of having an ulterior motive?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2011-08-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 02:07:41 +0300
Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:

Hello Stan,

 That is exactly why they should not be confronted with this
 superfluous step, since there is not reason not to simplify the
 procedure. You would still have errors, but they would be far fewer.
 Why is that wrong?

It isn't but please re-read what I wrote, as you seem to have
misunderstood.  These people don't as a rule, read the footer.
Therefore changing the content won't be of any use.  It could read
click here to be given $1,000,000 no strings attached and they *still*
wouldn't read it.

 The people who are experiencing the problem (or, as you might put it, 
 are inflicting the problem on us) are (as has been pointed out)
 largely office type people, who may be having their first exposure to
 lists and how to use them. If you want to just solve the problem of

Except that, in most instances, the same people commit the same
'mistake' on multiple lists.  It's laziness and/or stupidity.

 possible, which is why all other lists, as far as I can remember, have
 the unsubscribe instruction up front, not hidden behind an instruction

And people /still/ send unsub messages to the list.  I see it on the
lists I administer.  The instructions are in *every* message sent to the
list, plus the one sent when anybody initially subscribes.  Few people
read those, never mind keep them.

 If you prefer to ignore their naivete, and to continue to confront
 them with this unnecessary barrier, you can have the joy of feeling
 superior to them (which is what you are doing), with all the pleasant

Feel superior?  Nope.  Contempt is nearer the mark.  I don't suffer fools
gladly.  Please don't presume to tell me how I feel.

 buzz that this may give you, and have a laugh each and every time
 there is one of these plaints on the list -- and the annoyance will
 continue.

It'll continue whatever gets put in the footer.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted [RETORT TO FLAMEBAIT; DNFTT]

2011-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Oh no, Not that old flame-war again! lol

We have very adamant fan-boys (and ladies) on all 3 sides of this on-going 
argument all with legitimate and great reasons why their way is the only 
acceptable way and everyone else is a moron.  Please, lets not go there again!
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Dave Sergeant d...@davesergeant.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 6:56:06
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted 
[RETORT TO FLAMEBAIT; DNFTT]

Yes, with your name you should certainly have no need to remember to 
crop

Many lists now recommend top posting, as that is far better when folks 
read it on mobile devices. There seem to be a lot of posts on here 
where the actually reply is a few lines right at the bottom of acres of 
quoting.

Dave

On 16 Aug 2011 at 12:22, Simon Cropper wrote:

  And don't forget to trim
 
 Sorry :)
 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with combo box

2011-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
HI :)
A classic OpenSource answer.  An initial statement saying something can't be 
done.  Then giving 3 ways of doing it and alternatives to achieve the goal a 
different way, followed by advice as to why it's not a good idea.  All done in 
one neat post too :)  Ok, maybe just 1 or 2 ways this time but still a classic 
OpenSource thread.  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 10:36:16
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with combo box

2011/8/16 Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de:
 There is more than one way and you are free to do whatever you want. It is
 just me who suggests a better solution. 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted [RETORT TO FLAMEBAIT; DNFTT]

2011-08-16 Thread Steve Edmonds



On 16/08/11 9:41 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Oh no, Not that old flame-war again! lol

We have very adamant fan-boys (and ladies) on all 3 sides of this on-going
argument all with legitimate and great reasons why their way is the only
acceptable way and everyone else is a moron.  Please, lets not go there again!
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Dave Sergeantd...@davesergeant.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 6:56:06
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted
[RETORT TO FLAMEBAIT; DNFTT]

Yes, with your name you should certainly have no need to remember to
crop

Many lists now recommend top posting, as that is far better when folks
read it on mobile devices. There seem to be a lot of posts on here
where the actually reply is a few lines right at the bottom of acres of
quoting.

Dave

On 16 Aug 2011 at 12:22, Simon Cropper wrote:


And don't forget to trim

Sorry :)


http://www.davesergeant.com
Lets stir it, if we had a forum (like the old OOO one) there wouldn't be 
an argument on top or bottom posting.
I've read all the arguments, there are pros and cons for both 
(top/bottom, list/forum, the field is divided, so I just go with the flow.
I do object to trimming tho' because it wastes time trying to find all 
the trimmings to see the full discussion.

steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2011-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I don't feel contempt or superior or anything.  If a person has a problem i 
just 
try to help if i can.  A quick copypaste is no hassle.  


At a coffee shop we kept making a certain warning sign larger and larger.  
Changed the font to red.  Tried exclamation marks, road-side no-entry signs.  
Nothing seemed to work, people would walk right by.  So we switched to a tiny 
sign with Top Secret printed at the top.  Suddenly everyone started taking 
notice.

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 10:10:08
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 02:07:41 +0300
Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:

Hello Stan,

 That is exactly why they should not be confronted with this
 superfluous step, since there is not reason not to simplify the
 procedure. You would still have errors, but they would be far fewer.
 Why is that wrong?

It isn't but please re-read what I wrote, as you seem to have
misunderstood.  These people don't as a rule, read the footer.
Therefore changing the content won't be of any use.  It could read
click here to be given $1,000,000 no strings attached and they *still*
wouldn't read it.

 The people who are experiencing the problem (or, as you might put it, 
 are inflicting the problem on us) are (as has been pointed out)
 largely office type people, who may be having their first exposure to
 lists and how to use them. If you want to just solve the problem of

Except that, in most instances, the same people commit the same
'mistake' on multiple lists.  It's laziness and/or stupidity.

 possible, which is why all other lists, as far as I can remember, have
 the unsubscribe instruction up front, not hidden behind an instruction

And people /still/ send unsub messages to the list.  I see it on the
lists I administer.  The instructions are in *every* message sent to the
list, plus the one sent when anybody initially subscribes.  Few people
read those, never mind keep them.

 If you prefer to ignore their naivete, and to continue to confront
 them with this unnecessary barrier, you can have the joy of feeling
 superior to them (which is what you are doing), with all the pleasant

Feel superior?  Nope.  Contempt is nearer the mark.  I don't suffer fools
gladly.  Please don't presume to tell me how I feel.

 buzz that this may give you, and have a laugh each and every time
 there is one of these plaints on the list -- and the annoyance will
 continue.

It'll continue whatever gets put in the footer.

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/ _)radnever immediately apparent
Does she always shout at you, does she tell you what to do
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with combo box

2011-08-16 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2011/8/16 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk:
 HI :)
 A classic OpenSource answer.  An initial statement saying something can't be
 done.  Then giving 3 ways of doing it and alternatives to achieve the goal a
 different way, followed by advice as to why it's not a good idea.  All done in
 one neat post too :)  Ok, maybe just 1 or 2 ways this time but still a classic
 OpenSource thread.

And a small amount of healthy debate… :D


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
 From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 10:36:16
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with combo box

 2011/8/16 Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de:
 There is more than one way and you are free to do whatever you want. It is
 just me who suggests a better solution.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted [RETORT TO FLAMEBAIT; DNFTT]

2011-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
I think Twayne was showing his sense of humour again.  In England good friends 
often do petty jibes at each other in that way.  The better the friendship the 
more outrageous the jibes/jokes.  


The problem imo is how people outside that friendship view it.  A non-native 
English speaker might be terrified to learn the level of precision apparently 
required.  On the other hand jokes/jibes like that can often release tension.  


The next comment by someone else about snipping was hilarious imo but again 
it's 
easy to read it in a different way from the way it was intended.  If we were 
all 
in a pub or at a cocktail party or other social gathering the meaning would 
have 
been clearer from body-language and facial expressions.  Sadly (or perhaps 
fortunately in my case) all we see are the words printed on the screen.  

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Simon Cropper scrop...@botanicusaustralia.com.au
To: users@global.libreoffice.org; twa...@twaynesdomain.com
Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 2:41:21
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet 
deleted 
[RETORT TO FLAMEBAIT; DNFTT]

snip /

Thank you for your feedback, albeit off topic. I take your point and will 
endeavour to ensure my colloquial tongue does not make it to the page again.

snip /

a polite email to me privately would have sufficed, if you actually did not 
know 
what I was saying.

snip /
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted [RETORT TO FLAMEBAIT; DNFTT]

2011-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Lol, superb.  Great comedy timing!  Now we might get a flame-war about which 
flame-war is more important! Lol!!
Regards from
Tom :)




From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 10:57:05
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet 
deleted 
[RETORT TO FLAMEBAIT; DNFTT]



On 16/08/11 9:41 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 Oh no, Not that old flame-war again! lol

 We have very adamant fan-boys (and ladies) on all 3 sides of this on-going
 argument all with legitimate and great reasons why their way is the only
 acceptable way and everyone else is a moron.  Please, lets not go there again!
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 
 From: Dave Sergeantd...@davesergeant.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 6:56:06
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc will not save file after sheet deleted
 [RETORT TO FLAMEBAIT; DNFTT]

 Yes, with your name you should certainly have no need to remember to
 crop

 Many lists now recommend top posting, as that is far better when folks
 read it on mobile devices. There seem to be a lot of posts on here
 where the actually reply is a few lines right at the bottom of acres of
 quoting.

 Dave

 On 16 Aug 2011 at 12:22, Simon Cropper wrote:

 And don't forget to trim
 Sorry :)

 http://www.davesergeant.com
Lets stir it, if we had a forum (like the old OOO one) there wouldn't be 
an argument on top or bottom posting.
I've read all the arguments, there are pros and cons for both 
(top/bottom, list/forum, the field is divided, so I just go with the flow.
I do object to trimming tho' because it wastes time trying to find all 
the trimmings to see the full discussion.
steve

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[libreoffice-users] LO Impress 3.3.3 crashes Windows and Ubuntu

2011-08-16 Thread stan
When I work with a presentation in Impress, it happens quite frequently that
while moving an object the desktop stops responding to input, neither mouse
clicks nor keyboard input. I can move around the mouse pointer (now hand)
but I cannot do anything else. All that I am left with is a hard reboot. I
have dual-boot system and tried the same presentation in windows, only to
experience the same behaviour after a few minutes, so I assume that it is a
problem with LO, not the OS. If someone could advise me how to gather any
relevant information on these crashes, I would be very happy to contribute
to a resolution. Right now LO Impress is not very useful for me. 



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[libreoffice-users] If you want to UNSUBSCRIBE please read this

2011-08-16 Thread francis . leboutte

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Re: [libreoffice-users] If you want to UNSUBSCRIBE please read this

2011-08-16 Thread Onyeibo Oku
+1

Thank you so very much

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Frames Sections questions

2011-08-16 Thread Urmas D.
 Can you explain in more detail what you have done or want to do?

I have a document which contains many sections with different
formatting; also some text is in frames. I need to simplify this
document layout.


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[libreoffice-users] Search/Replace in Basic IDE

2011-08-16 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
When I search for something and leave the Replace With field empty
(meaning that I will replace something with nothing), replace will not
take place. The only way I could find to do it, was to copy the text
to gEdit and quickly do the replace there and then move it back to the
Basic IDE again. Is this a bug or is it only me? Can someone confirm
this?

If it's supposed to work like this, why is that?

LibreOffice 3.3.3, Ubuntu 10.10.


Regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2011-08-16 Thread Stan Goodman
On Tuesday 16 August 2011 12:01:37 Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:58:08 +0300
 Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:
 
 Hello Stan,
 
  Why is it necessary for one of us to hand-massage individual cases?
 
 Because there's a percentage of people that expect everything to be
 done for them.  They're called lazy people.

Given that there are lazy people, and also even many more people who 
simply don't know the drill and don't  know exactly what to scrutinize 
to make sure that they're not missing any bets, the rational way for the 
group to cope with such evidence of the human condition would be to made 
every effort ONCE to minimize the frequency with which it will be 
bothered by the need for individual explanations.

An irrational response might be to dismiss them all as just lazy people 
who need to be taught a lesson, even though teaching this lesson several 
times a week also bothers to a slight degree each and every reader of 
the list, not  to mention the Good Samaritans who send out these 
messages two or three times a week. The aggregate bother over, say, a 
year is not at all trivial, and it is all sooo unnecessary,

  Does it  satisfy a hidden social need to do so?
 
 Why are you accusing those that do assist of having an ulterior
 motive?

If you will read that sentence again, you may notice that it is not an 
accusation, but one in a series of hypothericals, framed as questions, 
meant to display the absence of any logical explanation for the unusual 
way unsubscription is being handled. As you have perceived it as an 
acccusation, it seems to have struck a nerve. For the record however, I 
don't care how you get your jollies; What you do with your surplus time 
is certainly your own business.

I am sure I've said everything I have to say on this subject, several 
times. I don't have any interest in defending my position further. It's 
been educational, which is something, and it's shown me an especially 
comical human foible that I must somehow have missed earlier.

As you were.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Impress 3.3.3 crashes Windows and Ubuntu

2011-08-16 Thread stan
Hi Tom,

Thanks for the quick reply. The bug report is now
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40141
Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce the crash using strace. Ironic! I'll just
start LO through strace every time and if it doesn't crash, that's fine,
too. 

Cheers
Stan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2011-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Your position is a good one and doesn't need defending.  If we all agreed about 
everything all the time it would be very dull.  Lets hope we never get there!

Usually we work towards a win-win so that everyone is happy but in this case we 
have been forced into a compromise which no-one has won and some points of view 
have lost out more than others.  The fact is (imo) that you are right and other 
people (incl me) are trying to defend a less-than-perfect system.  


There is a Nabble thread about this and if you have a good idea of how to 
implement a better answer then it would be great to add to that thread.  That 
seems to be the blocker at the moment, the implementation is not easy.  Other 
mailing lists have better answers but the mailing-list system we are using is 
different.  


Regards from
Tom :)





From: Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 16:56:39
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

On Tuesday 16 August 2011 12:01:37 Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:58:08 +0300
 Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:
 
 Hello Stan,
 
  Why is it necessary for one of us to hand-massage individual cases?
 
 Because there's a percentage of people that expect everything to be
 done for them.  They're called lazy people.

Given that there are lazy people, and also even many more people who 
simply don't know the drill and don't  know exactly what to scrutinize 
to make sure that they're not missing any bets, the rational way for the 
group to cope with such evidence of the human condition would be to made 
every effort ONCE to minimize the frequency with which it will be 
bothered by the need for individual explanations.

An irrational response might be to dismiss them all as just lazy people 
who need to be taught a lesson, even though teaching this lesson several 
times a week also bothers to a slight degree each and every reader of 
the list, not  to mention the Good Samaritans who send out these 
messages two or three times a week. The aggregate bother over, say, a 
year is not at all trivial, and it is all sooo unnecessary,

  Does it  satisfy a hidden social need to do so?
 
 Why are you accusing those that do assist of having an ulterior
 motive?

If you will read that sentence again, you may notice that it is not an 
accusation, but one in a series of hypothericals, framed as questions, 
meant to display the absence of any logical explanation for the unusual 
way unsubscription is being handled. As you have perceived it as an 
acccusation, it seems to have struck a nerve. For the record however, I 
don't care how you get your jollies; What you do with your surplus time 
is certainly your own business.

I am sure I've said everything I have to say on this subject, several 
times. I don't have any interest in defending my position further. It's 
been educational, which is something, and it's shown me an especially 
comical human foible that I must somehow have missed earlier.

As you were.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2011-08-16 Thread Caesar
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:56:39 +0300, Stan Goodman
stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote Re Re: [libreoffice-users]
unsubscribe:

Given that there are lazy people, and also even many more people who 
simply don't know the drill and don't  know exactly what to scrutinize 
to make sure that they're not missing any bets, the rational way for the 
group to cope with such evidence of the human condition would be to made 
every effort ONCE to minimize the frequency with which it will be 
bothered by the need for individual explanations.

Well put.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Search/Replace in Basic IDE

2011-08-16 Thread NoOp
On 08/16/2011 07:52 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 When I search for something and leave the Replace With field empty
 (meaning that I will replace something with nothing), replace will not
 take place. The only way I could find to do it, was to copy the text
 to gEdit and quickly do the replace there and then move it back to the
 Basic IDE again. Is this a bug or is it only me? Can someone confirm
 this?
 
 If it's supposed to work like this, why is that?
 
 LibreOffice 3.3.3, Ubuntu 10.10.
...
Works for me. LibreOffice 3.3.3 (US English), Ubuntu 10.10.

LibreOffice 3.3.3
OOO330m19 (Build:301)
tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2




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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Impress 3.3.3 crashes Windows and Ubuntu

2011-08-16 Thread Tom
Hi :)
Nicely done.  have you tried using Synaptic Package Manager to 
Edit - Fix broken packages

Also out of curiosity which format do you use for the presentation?  Could
you try Save As and change to the other one, eg if the presentation is
currently a .Ppt try saving as a .Odp

I don't know if it's going to be possible to try that and i don't know why i
didn't think of it before.
Regards from
Tom :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2011-08-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:56:39 +0300
Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:

Hello Stan,

 Given that there are lazy people, and also even many more people who 
 simply don't know the drill and don't  know exactly what to scrutinize 
 to make sure that they're not missing any bets, the rational way for
 the group to cope with such evidence of the human condition would be
 to made every effort ONCE to minimize the frequency with which it will

Are you deliberately missing the point?  Changing the footer will NOT be
of any use for reasons already explained:  It won't be read.  Therefore,
changing the footer is simply wasting time and effort.

As is this discussion.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2011-08-16 Thread Cliff Scott
** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Tue, 16 Aug
2011 10:58:06 +0100 (BST)

 Hi :)
 I don't feel contempt or superior or anything.  If a person has a problem i 
 just 
 try to help if i can.  A quick copypaste is no hassle.  
 
 
 At a coffee shop we kept making a certain warning sign larger and larger.  
 Changed the font to red.  Tried exclamation marks, road-side no-entry signs.  
 Nothing seemed to work, people would walk right by.  So we switched to a tiny 
 sign with Top Secret printed at the top.  Suddenly everyone started taking 
 notice.
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)


Unfortunately some mailers don't parse the email address correctly when
pasted and cut off the +help form the email address which is why I think so
many of the end up on this list.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Search/Replace in Basic IDE

2011-08-16 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2011/8/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 On 08/16/2011 07:52 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 When I search for something and leave the Replace With field empty
 (meaning that I will replace something with nothing), replace will not
 take place. The only way I could find to do it, was to copy the text
 to gEdit and quickly do the replace there and then move it back to the
 Basic IDE again. Is this a bug or is it only me? Can someone confirm
 this?

 If it's supposed to work like this, why is that?

 LibreOffice 3.3.3, Ubuntu 10.10.
 ...
 Works for me. LibreOffice 3.3.3 (US English), Ubuntu 10.10.

And you tried it in the BASIC IDE?


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



 LibreOffice 3.3.3
 OOO330m19 (Build:301)
 tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Frames Sections questions

2011-08-16 Thread Steve Edmonds



On 17/08/11 2:45 AM, Urmas D. wrote:

Can you explain in more detail what you have done or want to do?

I have a document which contains many sections with different
formatting; also some text is in frames. I need to simplify this
document layout.

I have been doing this recently by cut/paste/delete. Use ctl-A to select 
all in the frame or table cell, paste above the frame, delete the frame. 
Don't know if there is an easier way.

steve

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Search/Replace in Basic IDE

2011-08-16 Thread NoOp
On 08/16/2011 11:44 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 2011/8/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 On 08/16/2011 07:52 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 When I search for something and leave the Replace With field empty
 (meaning that I will replace something with nothing), replace will not
 take place. The only way I could find to do it, was to copy the text
 to gEdit and quickly do the replace there and then move it back to the
 Basic IDE again. Is this a bug or is it only me? Can someone confirm
 this?

 If it's supposed to work like this, why is that?

 LibreOffice 3.3.3, Ubuntu 10.10.
 ...
 Works for me. LibreOffice 3.3.3 (US English), Ubuntu 10.10.
 
 And you tried it in the BASIC IDE?
...

Woops, no I didn't. I'll have to figure out how to use the BASIC IDE
first :-)




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Search/Replace in Basic IDE

2011-08-16 Thread Bill Gradwohl
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On 08/16/2011 12:44 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 When I search for something and leave the Replace With field empty
 (meaning that I will replace something with nothing), replace will not
 take place.


What you describe is also what I get in OpenOffice on Fedora 14.
Searching for a string and having nothing in the replace field causes
the dialog to just search and do no replacements.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Search/Replace in Basic IDE

2011-08-16 Thread NoOp
On 08/16/2011 12:04 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/16/2011 11:44 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 2011/8/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 On 08/16/2011 07:52 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 When I search for something and leave the Replace With field empty
 (meaning that I will replace something with nothing), replace will not
 take place. The only way I could find to do it, was to copy the text
 to gEdit and quickly do the replace there and then move it back to the
 Basic IDE again. Is this a bug or is it only me? Can someone confirm
 this?

 If it's supposed to work like this, why is that?

 LibreOffice 3.3.3, Ubuntu 10.10.
 ...
 Works for me. LibreOffice 3.3.3 (US English), Ubuntu 10.10.
 
 And you tried it in the BASIC IDE?
 ...
 
 Woops, no I didn't. I'll have to figure out how to use the BASIC IDE
 first :-)

Figured it out. No it doesn't work  does as you describe in 3.3.3.

Now trying in 3.4.2 (Final): Same results.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Search/Replace in Basic IDE

2011-08-16 Thread NoOp
On 08/16/2011 12:17 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/16/2011 12:04 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/16/2011 11:44 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 2011/8/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 On 08/16/2011 07:52 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 When I search for something and leave the Replace With field empty
 (meaning that I will replace something with nothing), replace will not
 take place. The only way I could find to do it, was to copy the text
 to gEdit and quickly do the replace there and then move it back to the
 Basic IDE again. Is this a bug or is it only me? Can someone confirm
 this?

 If it's supposed to work like this, why is that?

 LibreOffice 3.3.3, Ubuntu 10.10.
 ...
 Works for me. LibreOffice 3.3.3 (US English), Ubuntu 10.10.
 
 And you tried it in the BASIC IDE?
 ...
 
 Woops, no I didn't. I'll have to figure out how to use the BASIC IDE
 first :-)
 
 Figured it out. No it doesn't work  does as you describe in 3.3.3.
 
 Now trying in 3.4.2 (Final): Same results.

FWIW: same results in OOo 3.2.1 (Ubuntu go-oo build), OOo 3.3.0
(standard build), and OOo-Dev 3.4.0.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Search/Replace in Basic IDE

2011-08-16 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2011/8/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 On 08/16/2011 12:17 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/16/2011 12:04 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 08/16/2011 11:44 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 2011/8/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
 On 08/16/2011 07:52 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 When I search for something and leave the Replace With field empty
 (meaning that I will replace something with nothing), replace will not
 take place. The only way I could find to do it, was to copy the text
 to gEdit and quickly do the replace there and then move it back to the
 Basic IDE again. Is this a bug or is it only me? Can someone confirm
 this?

 If it's supposed to work like this, why is that?

 LibreOffice 3.3.3, Ubuntu 10.10.
 ...
 Works for me. LibreOffice 3.3.3 (US English), Ubuntu 10.10.

 And you tried it in the BASIC IDE?
 ...

 Woops, no I didn't. I'll have to figure out how to use the BASIC IDE
 first :-)

 Figured it out. No it doesn't work  does as you describe in 3.3.3.

 Now trying in 3.4.2 (Final): Same results.

 FWIW: same results in OOo 3.2.1 (Ubuntu go-oo build), OOo 3.3.0
 (standard build), and OOo-Dev 3.4.0.

Thanks for confirming. Time for a bug report, I presume…!


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

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Re: [libreoffice-users] If you want to UNSUBSCRIBE please read this

2011-08-16 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 02:20:47PM +0200, francis.lebou...@algo.be wrote:
 
 If you want to unsubscribe look a the List-Unsubscribe: header in any email 
 from the list. That is send an email to
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 Don't send an email to the list.

The same people that don't read the footers don't read or even know the
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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2011-08-16 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
On mine the users+ looks like it's not part of the address.  The Problems 
guide does lead to the right place tho but maybe the + causes problems for 
those 
emailers when they try to follow the instruction?
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Cliff Scott ae...@qsl.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 16 August, 2011 19:43:42
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Tue, 16 Aug
2011 10:58:06 +0100 (BST)

 Hi :)
 I don't feel contempt or superior or anything.  If a person has a problem i 
just 

 try to help if i can.  A quick copypaste is no hassle.  
 
 
 At a coffee shop we kept making a certain warning sign larger and larger.  
 Changed the font to red.  Tried exclamation marks, road-side no-entry signs.  
 Nothing seemed to work, people would walk right by.  So we switched to a tiny 
 sign with Top Secret printed at the top.  Suddenly everyone started taking 
 notice.
 
 Regards from
 Tom :)


Unfortunately some mailers don't parse the email address correctly when
pasted and cut off the +help form the email address which is why I think so
many of the end up on this list.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Search/Replace in Basic IDE

2011-08-16 Thread Steve Edmonds
Hi.

On 2011-08-17 07:32, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 2011/8/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
   
 On 08/16/2011 12:17 PM, NoOp wrote:
 
 On 08/16/2011 12:04 PM, NoOp wrote:
   
 On 08/16/2011 11:44 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 
 2011/8/16 NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net:
   
 On 08/16/2011 07:52 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 
 When I search for something and leave the Replace With field empty
 (meaning that I will replace something with nothing), replace will not
 take place. The only way I could find to do it, was to copy the text
 to gEdit and quickly do the replace there and then move it back to the
 Basic IDE again. Is this a bug or is it only me? Can someone confirm
 this?

 If it's supposed to work like this, why is that?

 LibreOffice 3.3.3, Ubuntu 10.10.
   
 ...
 Works for me. LibreOffice 3.3.3 (US English), Ubuntu 10.10.
 
 And you tried it in the BASIC IDE?
   
 ...

 Woops, no I didn't. I'll have to figure out how to use the BASIC IDE
 first :-)
 
 Figured it out. No it doesn't work  does as you describe in 3.3.3.

 Now trying in 3.4.2 (Final): Same results.
   
 FWIW: same results in OOo 3.2.1 (Ubuntu go-oo build), OOo 3.3.0
 (standard build), and OOo-Dev 3.4.0.
 
 Thanks for confirming. Time for a bug report, I presume…!

   
What if you try the search for something and the replace with  (2
quotes, empty string.) I have a couple of editors needing a quoted empty
string to replace something with nothing.
steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2011-08-16 Thread Cliff Scott
** Reply to message from planas jsloz...@gmail.com on Tue, 16 Aug 2011
20:12:42 -0400

 Cliff
 
 
 On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 13:43 -0500, Cliff Scott wrote: 
 
  ** Reply to message from Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk on Tue, 16 Aug
  2011 10:58:06 +0100 (BST)
  
   Hi :)
   I don't feel contempt or superior or anything.  If a person has a problem 
   i just 
   try to help if i can.  A quick copypaste is no hassle.  
   
   
   At a coffee shop we kept making a certain warning sign larger and larger. 

   Changed the font to red.  Tried exclamation marks, road-side no-entry 
   signs.  
   Nothing seemed to work, people would walk right by.  So we switched to a 
   tiny 
   sign with Top Secret printed at the top.  Suddenly everyone started 
   taking 
   notice.
   
   Regards from
   Tom :)
  
  
  Unfortunately some mailers don't parse the email address correctly when
  pasted and cut off the +help form the email address which is why I think so
  many of the end up on this list.
  
 
 The foorer is parsed correctly at my end, using gmail/evolution/ubuntu
 11.04. Is it an improperly configured client?

In using a java based email client on WinXP it ends up with
users@global.libreoffice.org as the email address and +help as the subject.
The same client under eCS works fine so it could be the interface with XP and
the client or an issue within XP itself. Apparently Tom also has seen
incorrect parsing. Maybe if the plus sign was changed to a minus it would
work better, I don't know.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] unsubscribe

2011-08-16 Thread soumalya ray
totally agree with you

On 16 August 2011 11:28, Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.com wrote:

 On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:42:48 Tom Davies wrote:
  We don't really get a LOT of problems.  Perhaps 2 or 3 people in a
  month?  We  all notice and their posts are glaringly obvious but
  usually it's very easy to fix.  One of us just copiespastes the
  guide address from the new footer into the main part of the message.
 
  Note that the footer did change a couple of weeks ago.  It's not
  perfect but it is a bit better imo.  I still largely agree with
  Stan's statement.

 Why is it necessary for one of us to hand-massage individual cases? Does
 it  satisfy a hidden social need to do so?

 Blogs to which I subscribe generally have a link at the bottom of each
 message saying To unsubscribe, click _here_. No muss, no fuss. Why is
 that inadequate?

 In the case of a mailing list, there are two alternatives of
 subscribtion, message by message, or the digest. Suppose that the link
 would open a browser to a page on an LO site, that asks the simple
 question Message by message, or digest. The fellow can check the right
 box, the system sends him the usual confirmation message, and it's over.
 If , instead of two possibilities, there are four or even thirty (as a
 user from some other galaxy noted), then there can be four or thirty
 checkboxes on the web page.

 I don't see why this is even an issue to be debated.

 If there has been a change of the instruction recently, I have not
 detected it. Since the method is as it was, any change can only have
 been trivial/
 --
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 Qiryat Tiv'on
 Israel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Impress 3.3.3 crashes Windows and Ubuntu

2011-08-16 Thread soumalya ray
this reminded me my experience,not this much serious though.
while creating a presentation,i found LO unresponsive.i was a bit
scared.waited for few minutes and it was working again.later,i found that LO
was making a back-up copy at that time and hence the effect.dont know if
this is normal or not.and this happened only for the first
back-up.subsequent ones went without any problem.
LO-3.3.2,ubuntu lucid.
but the system itself was not hanged in my case;i used other apps
normally.no problem there

On 16 August 2011 23:28, Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 Nicely done.  have you tried using Synaptic Package Manager to
 Edit - Fix broken packages

 Also out of curiosity which format do you use for the presentation?  Could
 you try Save As and change to the other one, eg if the presentation is
 currently a .Ppt try saving as a .Odp

 I don't know if it's going to be possible to try that and i don't know why
 i
 didn't think of it before.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

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[libreoffice-users] Macro to select for example 10 cells down (and/or right) current cell

2011-08-16 Thread Silva Paulo
Since uno:GoDown select is broken, how can I select for example 10 cells down 
(or right) the current cell in a basic macro?

Thanks


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