[libreoffice-users] Download API?

2012-05-18 Thread Kelly Holman 
Is it possible to download the LO API to use offline?

Thanks.

~
Kelly C. Holman
Hidden Talents Tutoring
Menomonie, WI
715-231-2191

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug #48365 filed six weeks ago. No sign of acknowledgement.

2012-05-18 Thread John Hardy 

Tom;


It does just take time but it's not a que.  It just depends on it catching the 
eye of the devs.  It might be worth askingt he devs list what they think.
Apols and regards


Where might I find the devs list (and how to subscribe)? Thanks very much.

John

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug #48365 filed six weeks ago. No sign of acknowledgement.

2012-05-18 Thread Tom Davies 
Hi :)
It does just take time but it's not a que.  It just depends on it catching the 
eye of the devs.  It might be worth askingt he devs list what they think.
Apols and regards from
Tom :)  


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From: John Hardy 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Bug #48365 filed six weeks ago. No sign of 
acknowledgement.
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 18 May, 2012, 23:02

Hello;

On April 6th I filed bug #48365 for Libre Office Draw ["Exporting as an EPS 
file results in an incorrectly scaled image (appears larger than original)"]. 
It is now six weeks later and there is no sign that anyone has acknowledged the 
bug report, much less looked into it. Perhaps this is the way it works, with 
long response times. I would appreciate any comments. If I have incorrectly 
filed the report, I will be happy to modify it. If it just takes time, I would 
appreciate knowing.

Here is the link:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48365

Thank you very much for your help.

John Hardy

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with using Zotero

2012-05-18 Thread David 
On 5/18/2012 5:47 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
> Am 18.05.2012 23:24, David wrote:
>> Really? Then why did some version of Java always come with OpenOffice.
>> And was required for 'something' (I thought it was the database module)
>> to work?
>>
> 
> No, not even Base requires any Java to be useful. You can do almost
> anything with non-Java databases. Just disable Java, create a new
> database or load the "Bibliography", add queries and draw forms.
> 
>> I have had no problem using the x86_64 Java 6.0.x and later 7.0.x with
>> several 32 bit applications.
>>
>> Just lucky I guess.
> 
> Java applications are neither 32 nor 64 bit. They are "neutral" byte
> code supposed to run on all virtual Java machines.
> As far as I understand the matter, Java_64 can not add new components to
> this 32 bit application. This is another level of integration which
> requires a 32 bit Java for a 32 bit office suite.


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[libreoffice-users] Bug #48365 filed six weeks ago. No sign of acknowledgement.

2012-05-18 Thread John Hardy 

Hello;

On April 6th I filed bug #48365 for Libre Office Draw ["Exporting as an 
EPS file results in an incorrectly scaled image (appears larger than 
original)"]. It is now six weeks later and there is no sign that anyone 
has acknowledged the bug report, much less looked into it. Perhaps this 
is the way it works, with long response times. I would appreciate any 
comments. If I have incorrectly filed the report, I will be happy to 
modify it. If it just takes time, I would appreciate knowing.


Here is the link:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48365

Thank you very much for your help.

John Hardy

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with using Zotero

2012-05-18 Thread Andreas Säger 

Am 18.05.2012 23:24, David wrote:

Really? Then why did some version of Java always come with OpenOffice.
And was required for 'something' (I thought it was the database module)
to work?



No, not even Base requires any Java to be useful. You can do almost 
anything with non-Java databases. Just disable Java, create a new 
database or load the "Bibliography", add queries and draw forms.



I have had no problem using the x86_64 Java 6.0.x and later 7.0.x with
several 32 bit applications.

Just lucky I guess.


Java applications are neither 32 nor 64 bit. They are "neutral" byte 
code supposed to run on all virtual Java machines.
As far as I understand the matter, Java_64 can not add new components to 
this 32 bit application. This is another level of integration which 
requires a 32 bit Java for a 32 bit office suite.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with using Zotero

2012-05-18 Thread David 
On 5/18/2012 4:32 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
> Am 18.05.2012 20:34, David wrote:
>> On 5/18/2012 2:25 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
>>>
>>> David-4 wrote

 I have LO 3.5.3.2 installed and Java 7.0 u4 x86_64 installed on Windows
 7 x86_64 and I have no problems with LO databases.
 -- 

David

>>> Whatever "LO databases" means. The built-in bibliography is dBase and
>>> does
>>> not require any Java at all. Java_64 can not interface with a 32 bit
>>> application.
>>
>>
>> Is it not the dbase module of LO that requires Java?
>>
>>
> 
> No, it isn't. Disable Java and every new database will be a dBase
> directory (just like it used to be in OOo 1).


Really? Then why did some version of Java always come with OpenOffice.
And was required for 'something' (I thought it was the database module)
to work?

> Anyhow, Java_64 can not interface with a 32 bit application.

I have had no problem using the x86_64 Java 6.0.x and later 7.0.x with
several 32 bit applications.

Just lucky I guess.
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[libreoffice-users] ThreadDeath using BasicOfficeBean.java in LibreOffice

2012-05-18 Thread barrybevel 
Hi,
  Apologies in advance for the vague nature of this question... here goes...

I have inherited an Applet which uses BasicOfficeBean.java to create Writer
Documents in the browser.
(Next Generation Java Plugin from JDK 1.6.0.26 in Firefox 4.0)

This same code is used for both StarOffice in Windows XP SP3 and LibreOffice
in Ubuntu 10.4  
(Sorry I don't have the versions to hand)

* Q1) Is it a good idea to use BasicOfficeBean.java for both StarOffice and
LibreOffice or does LibreOffice have an alternative?

After a while we get a ThreadDeath exception!

The code where the Debugger(Eclipse) shows the ThreadDeath in
BasicOfficeBean.java is below:

   synchronized (mQueue) {
if (mQueue.isEmpty() == true) {
mQueue.wait();
}
command = 
(OfficeCommand)mQueue.remove(0);
}

It's BasicOfficeBean.java 1.4 seen here: (search for 00465)
http://openoffice.org-sdk.sourcearchive.com/documentation/1.1.0-2/BasicOfficeBean_8java-source.html

When I press "l" in the Java Console I have a Zombie thread and another Java
Console is created with another separate JVM.

* Q2) Should I ever get a ThreadDeath or Zombie thread or is it a "normal
occurrence"?


I would love any feedback from experienced users if they ever get a
ThreadDeath and if they use BasicOfficeBean.java with LibreOffice?

Thanks in advance for any replies...

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with using Zotero

2012-05-18 Thread Andreas Säger 

Am 18.05.2012 20:34, David wrote:

On 5/18/2012 2:25 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:


David-4 wrote


I have LO 3.5.3.2 installed and Java 7.0 u4 x86_64 installed on Windows
7 x86_64 and I have no problems with LO databases.
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Whatever "LO databases" means. The built-in bibliography is dBase and does
not require any Java at all. Java_64 can not interface with a 32 bit
application.



Is it not the dbase module of LO that requires Java?




No, it isn't. Disable Java and every new database will be a dBase 
directory (just like it used to be in OOo 1).


Anyhow, Java_64 can not interface with a 32 bit application.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with using Zotero

2012-05-18 Thread David 
On 5/18/2012 2:25 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
> 
> David-4 wrote
>>
>> I have LO 3.5.3.2 installed and Java 7.0 u4 x86_64 installed on Windows
>> 7 x86_64 and I have no problems with LO databases.
>> -- 
>>
>>   David
>>
> Whatever "LO databases" means. The built-in bibliography is dBase and does
> not require any Java at all. Java_64 can not interface with a 32 bit
> application.


Is it not the dbase module of LO that requires Java?


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with using Zotero

2012-05-18 Thread Andreas Säger 

David-4 wrote
> 
> I have LO 3.5.3.2 installed and Java 7.0 u4 x86_64 installed on Windows
> 7 x86_64 and I have no problems with LO databases.
> -- 
> 
>   David
> 
Whatever "LO databases" means. The built-in bibliography is dBase and does
not require any Java at all. Java_64 can not interface with a 32 bit
application.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with using Zotero

2012-05-18 Thread David 
On 5/18/2012 1:27 PM, MiguelAngel wrote:
> El 18/05/12 16:48, RustyRiley escribió:
>> I'm living Downunder so I haven't  had a response to a query I put to the
>> Zotero forums about a problem I was having with trying to insert
>> citations
>> into a LO 3.5.3 document -- Z would "freeze" -- problem occurred with
>> both
>> standalone and Ff versions of Z -- managed to resolve problem but not
>> in a
>> way I would recommend if some other way could be found
>>
>> as stated I had LO 3.5.3 installed, using Ff 12, and latest versions of Z
>> and LO/OO wp integration with JRE 7 -- error messages would pop up from Z
>> suggesting some problem with Java -- so uninstalled LO, uninstalled
>> JRE and
>> went back to using LO 3.4.6 and JRE 1.6 -- works sweetly, but now of
>> course
>> I don't have latest version of LO
>>
>> any suggestions?
>>
>> Rusty
>>
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> 
> You can try, LO 3.5.3 with already installed JRE 1.6 to avoid the
> problem between Zotero and Java 1.7.


I have LO 3.5.3.2 installed and Java 7.0 u4 x86_64 installed on Windows
7 x86_64 and I have no problems with LO databases.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with using Zotero

2012-05-18 Thread MiguelAngel 

El 18/05/12 16:48, RustyRiley escribió:

I'm living Downunder so I haven't  had a response to a query I put to the
Zotero forums about a problem I was having with trying to insert citations
into a LO 3.5.3 document -- Z would "freeze" -- problem occurred with both
standalone and Ff versions of Z -- managed to resolve problem but not in a
way I would recommend if some other way could be found

as stated I had LO 3.5.3 installed, using Ff 12, and latest versions of Z
and LO/OO wp integration with JRE 7 -- error messages would pop up from Z
suggesting some problem with Java -- so uninstalled LO, uninstalled JRE and
went back to using LO 3.4.6 and JRE 1.6 -- works sweetly, but now of course
I don't have latest version of LO

any suggestions?

Rusty

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You can try, LO 3.5.3 with already installed JRE 1.6 to avoid the 
problem between Zotero and Java 1.7.


Miguel Ángel.

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[libreoffice-users] Problem with using Zotero

2012-05-18 Thread RustyRiley 
I'm living Downunder so I haven't  had a response to a query I put to the
Zotero forums about a problem I was having with trying to insert citations
into a LO 3.5.3 document -- Z would "freeze" -- problem occurred with both
standalone and Ff versions of Z -- managed to resolve problem but not in a
way I would recommend if some other way could be found

as stated I had LO 3.5.3 installed, using Ff 12, and latest versions of Z
and LO/OO wp integration with JRE 7 -- error messages would pop up from Z
suggesting some problem with Java -- so uninstalled LO, uninstalled JRE and
went back to using LO 3.4.6 and JRE 1.6 -- works sweetly, but now of course
I don't have latest version of LO

any suggestions?

Rusty

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[libreoffice-users] Re: What versions of LibO and Java-JRE to install today?

2012-05-18 Thread Tom 
Hi :)
Errr that was all my own personal opinion based on the multitude of posts in
the User List.  I'm not sure about the official TDF position or what the
Base experts think (or hope)
Regards from
Tom :) 

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[libreoffice-users] Re: What versions of LibO and Java-JRE to install today?

2012-05-18 Thread Tom 
Hi :)
Where Andreas offers a choice of either 
3.5.3 with any Java
or 
3.4.6 with Java 6 (not 7)

I would recommend 3.4.6 with Java 6u31.  

I thought compatibility with Java 7 had been back-ported to LO 3.4.5&3.4.6
but if that's not working for you then the Java 6u31 should be fine.  Not
long ago people often had to go back to the worryingly ancient Java 6u21 as
anything after 6u24 slowed or crashed quite a few people's machines.  The LO
devs seem to have fixed that.  

The problem seems to be with Oracle's 'professional' programmers or may it's
part of some strategy to start profiting from Java which is currently free.   
At the moment it is just making people lose confidence in Java.  LibreOffice
devs are writing-out any dependence on Java.  Hopefully Extensions-devs
might go the same way too.  Sadly not enough people are working on Base at
the moment but it seems to have picked-up a bit.  Caligra Office have a
database program called Kexi which just fixed a few issues so it might be
worth trying.  I think most people run Base quite happily but avoid using
the internal HsqlDb.  HsqlDb as an external DB seems fine but there are
other choices for a wide variety of back-ends.  
Regards from
Tom :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: What versions of LibO and Java-JRE to install today?

2012-05-18 Thread Andreas Säger 
And the answer remains the same all days. No problems with LibreOffice 3.5.3
and any version of Java whereas LibO3.4 can handle the (still maintained)
1.6 branch.



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[libreoffice-users] What versions of LibO and Java-JRE to install today?

2012-05-18 Thread Pertti Rönnberg 

Dear you LibO folks,
Some days ago as a branch of the thread "Base and Java 1.7 - does not 
work" I asked for your advice/recommendation on what versions of LibreO 
and JRE I shall /_install today_/ when I quite far from home and my 
laptop as the only computer, at my countryside cottage want to work with 
Writer, Calc and especially Base without any disturbing bugs and other 
issues.


I think my question is relevant and of interest to others too.
All along this winter and springtime this mailing list has handled 
problems about LibO v.3.5.x not working, LibO-3.5.x crashing, Base not 
working, with or without Java JRE, connections to db not working, etc.
After about 5 months struggling with LibO (-Base) I am sort of fed up -- 
as a preparation before summer I finally need to decide if continue with 
LibO, or return to OpenO or skip both of those and look for something 
else as a reliable working tool, e.g. purchase MSOffice&MSAccess.


I've got some kind varying explanations but no exact answers plus that I 
know that it is not quite true that a 32-bit program (e.g. WinXP progs) 
runs always OK on a Win7/64-bit.
You LibO experts may know about LibO's compatibility features and 
build-ups and it's more or less hidden wonderful properties (e.g. 
/_telling now_/ that it is 32-bit and runs on Win7-64bit) but try to 
remember that out here are many 'dummies' like me that do not - not 
until we are told.


So I repeat my questions:
What version of LibreO do you recommend that I shall install on my 
laptop (Win7-Premium Home-64bit) before summer
a >>what is the best, most reliable and stable version today (esp. 
concerning Base, no bugs, no other issues)
b >>does that LibO-version require a Java JRE to run Base? -- what 
JRE-version (surely OK on Win7/64bit)?
c >>what kind of issues do I have to be prepared for with LibO in 
general, and because of LibO being 32-bits and my laptop Win7/64-bits?
d >>does that recommended LibO (on laptop) communicate without 
problems with my PC  (Win-Prof/32 bit & LibO-3.4.6)?

Best regards
Pertti Rönnberg

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Re: [libreoffice-users] two page counts

2012-05-18 Thread Florent Guiliani 
Hello Jay,

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Jay Lozier  wrote:
>
> On 05/17/2012 02:33 PM, Florent Guiliani wrote:
>> Now I am desperately trying to get the desired page count for the
>> second 'logical' document. Thought?
>>
>> Taking the problem upside down, I would rather be happy if I could
>> make cross-references between the two documents without having to
>> merge them.
>>
> Two questions:
>
> How did you merge the two documents?

I have concatenated the two documents using the menu command "Insert->File..."

>
> What type of references are you trying to maintain?

One document contains a numbered list of items. It should have it's
own page number and page count. The other document mentions the number
and text of the listed items. It also needs it owns page number and
page count.

I use cross-references to reflect any change in the number or text of
the items automatically in the other document. (Menu Insert ->
Cross-references, then Tab cross-references, Type:numbered paragraph,
Reference to: number and reference)

I wonder if I could proceed the other way around: setting index
entries and generate the list in the other document with a
user-defined index. That doesn't change the page numbering issue
though.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base and Java 1.7 - does not work

2012-05-18 Thread Tom Davies 
Hi :)
Great news! :)  Thanks Gary :)  I think a lot of people had kinda given up hope 
of them ever managing to release a new version.  

Btw your 1st link got me a 
"We're sorry, the page you requested was not found."
lol.  Still the 2nd one looked great :)
Thanks and regards from
Tom :)


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From: NoOp 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base and Java 1.7 - does not work
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 18 May, 2012, 5:02

On 5/17/2012 4:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :) I think the last official release was a 6, possibly the 6u31.
> None of the 7s have made it to full official release.  

You think? Did you not bother to check the links that I provided?

Here's a few more:

http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp
"Free Java Download
Download Java for your desktop computer now!
Version 7 Update 4 "


At least 1 of
> them was apparently compromised out-in-the-wild when it reached
> release-candidate status. Regards from Tom :)
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 17/5/12, NoOp  wrote:
> 
> From: NoOp  Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re:
> Base and Java 1.7 - does not work To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
> Date: Thursday, 17 May, 2012, 1:32
> 
> On 05/15/2012 03:19 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
>> There is no reason to run Java 1.7 unless required by some bleeding
>> edge application. Even then you can install a second Java 1.6 and
>> point the
> 
> Java 1.7_0.4 is the current recommended _released_ version of Java. 
> https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp "Recommended Version 7
> Update 4" 
> 
> You'll need to go hunting for Java 1.6 now.
> 
> Further: 
>  
> "Support for Java 7 (1.7) added. User can select between Java 6 or 7 
> engine, if both are installed. "
> 
>> office to that installation. In any case it has to be 32 bit
>> because under Windows the office is a 32 bit application.
> 
> Perhaps if you would include some quotation from the post others
> could understand what you are replying to. I see nothing in the OP
> that indicates 'steelej' was using a 64 bit version.
> 
> 
> 
> 



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