Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
When I wrote my comment I was not thinking about the change of a font, but getting something which helps to understand how Writer work and a support to unlearn Word. I am currently struggling with unlearning Word and Power Point. On 2012-11-13 22:56, VA wrote: Yes, MS completely redesigned the user interface with Word 2007, so any chart made for Word 2003 could be very different for one made for Word 2007. I'm not sure how effective a chart would be, for LibO and Word, in many ways, just think differently. LibO uses not only paragraph styles but also page styles, which is a completely foreign concept to MS. So, it's not just about hitting a sequence of mouse clicks in the right order; it's about relearning how to create, edit, and format documents. There are typically several ways to accomplish a task, and the LibO method that is most like Word may not be the best way to get things done. To get the most out of LibO, you might find yourself having to deliberately unlearn Word. To be sure, you can find things in the Writer menu that are similar to the Word menu, but the power of an office suite comes in learning how the program thinks, which is working at a deeper level than simply selecting a font from a drop-down box, etc. Virgil ps. Can someone fix the annoying feature of this list that you must hit reply all to send a reply to the list? I'm constantly sending out duplicates of my messages because my first one only went to one person. No other list I belong to has that behavior. My apologies to Dr. Stapf for the rerun. -Original Message- From: Dr. R. O Stapf Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:22 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart I know that the creation of such a tool would take very important dev resources, but it would be a good tool to promote LIbO Writer. But why to compare with Word 2003? As far as I know a big change has taken place with Word 2007 (or 2010?)/ On 2012-11-13 02:27, charles meyer wrote: Hi Folks, MS Word has a comparison chart which shows you how to perform certain tasks in Word compared to how you effect them in WordPerfect. It's an easy chart to check (and learn) Word if you've been a WordPerfect user. Ex. Ctrl/F8 will perform a certain task in WordPerfect but that same task is done with different function key combinations in Word I was wondering if anyone has come across a similar comparison chart for Libre Writer and Word, especially Word 2003? The chart would show how a task is done in Word and then next to it would reveal how that task is done in Libre Writer. Thanks so much, Charles. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Inserting an OLE as an Icon and Create Package
I am still using 3.5.7, thus cannot make a test. However, seeing that you are still using 3.6.0 I would got and try 3.6.3 which is released. On 2012-11-13 22:48, Gopi Krishna V wrote: Hi I am trying to insert an object in OLE. The steps i am following: Insert - Object - OLE Object - further objects - create from file - browse - select the file - select the display as icon - OK. at this stage instead of inserting the object the program is asking for create package - browse etc. i was at a loss to understand this. I experimented but could not come to a conclusion or insert the object as icon in Calc or Writer. (Version 3.6.0.4 (Build ID: 932b512), win 7, 64 bit. I am attaching the screen shot file along with this for ready reference. thanks Gopi Krishna V Sr. Manager Admin SoCtronics Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Plot No. 89 90, Road No.2, Banjara Hills, Hyderabad 500034, India. P: +91 40 3061 F: +91 40 30615560 M: +91 9912379998 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
Hi:) I think just working through the Getting Started guide helps hugely. Pay special attention to the Styles chapter. wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications I had to help someone tidy up a Word document yday and it was a total Pita. Fortunately they are very unfamiliar with MS-anything so; 1. They didn't do so many of the weirdnesses that people learn to use to really stuff-up their documents and make them unreadable to everyone that isn't using their system 2. There is some hope of pushing them straight into using LO Regards from Tom :) From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 8:00 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart When I wrote my comment I was not thinking about the change of a font, but getting something which helps to understand how Writer work and a support to unlearn Word. I am currently struggling with unlearning Word and Power Point. On 2012-11-13 22:56, VA wrote: Yes, MS completely redesigned the user interface with Word 2007, so any chart made for Word 2003 could be very different for one made for Word 2007. I'm not sure how effective a chart would be, for LibO and Word, in many ways, just think differently. LibO uses not only paragraph styles but also page styles, which is a completely foreign concept to MS. So, it's not just about hitting a sequence of mouse clicks in the right order; it's about relearning how to create, edit, and format documents. There are typically several ways to accomplish a task, and the LibO method that is most like Word may not be the best way to get things done. To get the most out of LibO, you might find yourself having to deliberately unlearn Word. To be sure, you can find things in the Writer menu that are similar to the Word menu, but the power of an office suite comes in learning how the program thinks, which is working at a deeper level than simply selecting a font from a drop-down box, etc. Virgil ps. Can someone fix the annoying feature of this list that you must hit reply all to send a reply to the list? I'm constantly sending out duplicates of my messages because my first one only went to one person. No other list I belong to has that behavior. My apologies to Dr. Stapf for the rerun. -Original Message- From: Dr. R. O Stapf Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:22 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart I know that the creation of such a tool would take very important dev resources, but it would be a good tool to promote LIbO Writer. But why to compare with Word 2003? As far as I know a big change has taken place with Word 2007 (or 2010?)/ On 2012-11-13 02:27, charles meyer wrote: Hi Folks, MS Word has a comparison chart which shows you how to perform certain tasks in Word compared to how you effect them in WordPerfect. It's an easy chart to check (and learn) Word if you've been a WordPerfect user. Ex. Ctrl/F8 will perform a certain task in WordPerfect but that same task is done with different function key combinations in Word I was wondering if anyone has come across a similar comparison chart for Libre Writer and Word, especially Word 2003? The chart would show how a task is done in Word and then next to it would reveal how that task is done in Libre Writer. Thanks so much, Charles. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
Paying special attention to the Styles Chapters is definitely important; maybe the most important chapters to look at.A guidance for LibO beginners could help to move people from MSO to LibO. I observe that many people are sticking with MSO because with huge efforts they learned to use MSO (most often just very basics) and don't want to take an effort to learn something new without a good guidance.On 2012-11-14 20:38, Tom Davies wrote: Hi:)I think just working through the Getting Started guide helps hugely.Pay special attention to the Styles chapter.wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/PublicationsI had to help someone tidy up a Word document yday and it was a total Pita.Fortunately they are very unfamiliar with MS-anything so;1.They didn't do so many of the weirdnesses that people learn to use to really stuff-up their documents and make them unreadable to everyone that isn't using their system2.There is some hope of pushing them straight into using LORegards fromTom :) From:Dr. R. O Stapfreinhold@stapf-online.comTo:users@global.libreoffice.orgSent:Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 8:00Subject:Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart When I wrote my comment I was not thinking about the change of a font, but getting something whichhelps to understand how Writer work and a support to unlearn Word. I am currently struggling withunlearning Word and Power Point.On 2012-11-13 22:56, VA wrote:Yes, MS completely redesigned the user interface with Word 2007, so anychart made for Word 2003 could be very different for one made for Word 2007.I'm not sure how effective a chart would be, for LibO and Word, in manyways, just think differently. LibO uses not only paragraph styles but alsopage styles, which is a completely foreign concept to MS. So, it's not justabout hitting a sequence of mouse clicks in the right order; it's aboutrelearning how to create, edit, and format documents. There are typicallyseveral ways to accomplish a task, and the LibO method that is most likeWord may not be the best way to get things done. To get the most out ofLibO, you might find yourself having to deliberately unlearn Word. To besure, you can find things in the Writer menu that are similar to the Wordmenu, but the power of an office suite comes in learning how the programthinks, which is working at a deeper level than simply selecting a font froma drop-down box, etc.Virgilps. Can someone fix the annoying feature of this list that you must hit reply all to send areply to the list? I'm constantly sending out duplicates of my messages because my first one onlywent to one person. No other list I belong to has that behavior. My apologies to Dr. Stapf for thererun.-Original Message- From: Dr. R. O StapfSent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:22 AMTo:users@global.libreoffice.orgSubject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison ChartI know that the creation of such a tool would take very important dev resources, but it would be agood tool to promote LIbO Writer.But why to compare with Word 2003? As far as I know a big change has taken place with Word 2007 (or2010?)/On 2012-11-13 02:27, charles meyer wrote:Hi Folks,MS Word has a comparison chart which shows you how to perform certaintasks in Word compared to how you effect them in WordPerfect.It's an easy chart to check (and learn) Word if you've been a WordPerfect user.Ex. Ctrl/F8 will perform a certain task in WordPerfect but that sametask is done with different function key combinations in WordI was wondering if anyone has come across a similar comparison chartfor Libre Writer and Word, especially Word 2003?The chart would show how a task is done in Word and then next to itwould reveal how that task is done in Libre Writer.Thanks so much,Charles.--For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.orgProblems?http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/Posting guidelines + more:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/NetiquetteList archive:http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette
Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
WE do need to have some document comparing MSO [2003, 2007, 2010, and 2013] with LibreOffice as part of a Marketing Tool. We need to be able to show our users that what they are using MSO for, they can use LO to do the same. There are many advantages in using LO instead of MSO, besides the price of the software, and we need to have some official list/document from LO/TDF that describes these advantages. YES - I would like to see a chart comparing features with MSO. The last one I used was MSO2003, but we need to have LO compared to MSO 2010/13 as well. 2010 is the current version and we need to compare LO with MS's current package. It would be nice to get a MSO2013 beta and see how LO compares with that package. I know that there are differences in the UI, but the functions are the important part. Import/Export filters. MSO does not have a Draw style package, as far as I remember. Things like that. On 11/14/2012 09:05 AM, Dr. R. O Stapf wrote: Paying special attention to the Styles Chapters is definitely important; maybe the most important chapters to look at.A guidance for LibO beginners could help to move people from MSO to LibO. I observe that many people are sticking with MSO because with huge efforts they learned to use MSO (most often just very basics) and don't want to take an effort to learn something new without a good guidance.On 2012-11-14 20:38, Tom Davies wrote: Hi:)I think just working through the Getting Started guide helps hugely.Pay special attention to the Styles chapter.wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/PublicationsI had to help someone tidy up a Word document yday and it was a total Pita.Fortunately they are very unfamiliar with MS-anything so;1.They didn't do so many of the weirdnesses that people learn to use to really stuff-up their documents and make them unreadable to everyone that isn't using their system2.There is some hope of pushing them straight into using LORegards fromTom :) From:Dr. R. O Stapfreinhold@stapf-online.comTo:users@global.libreoffice.orgSent:Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 8:00Subject:Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart When I wrote my comment I was not thinking about the change of a font, but getting something whichhelps to understand how Writer work and a support to unlearn Word. I am currently struggling withunlearning Word and Power Point.On 2012-11-13 22:56, VA wrote:Yes, MS completely redesigned the user interface with Word 2007, so anychart made for Word 2003 could be very different for one made for Word 2007.I'm not sure how effective a chart would be, for LibO and Word, in manyways, just think differently. LibO uses not only paragraph styles but alsopage styles, which is a completely foreign concept to MS. So, it's not justabout hitting a sequence of mouse clicks in the right order; it's aboutrelearning how to create, edit, and format documents. There are typicallyseveral ways to accomplish a task, and the LibO method that is most likeWord may not be the best way to get things done. To get the most out ofLibO, you might find yourself having to deliberately unlearn Word. To besure, you can find things in the Writer menu that are similar to the Wordmenu, but the power of an office suite comes in learning how the programthinks, which is working at a deeper level than simply selecting a font froma drop-down box, etc.Virgilps. Can someone fix the annoying feature of this list that you must hit reply all to send areply to the list? I'm constantly sending out duplicates of my messages because my first one onlywent to one person. No other list I belong to has that behavior. My apologies to Dr. Stapf for thererun.-Original Message- From: Dr. R. O StapfSent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:22 AMTo:users@global.libreoffice.orgSubject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison ChartI know that the creation of such a tool would take very important dev resources, but it would be agood tool to promote LIbO Writer.But why to compare with Word 2003? As far as I know a big change has taken place with Word 2007 (or2010?)/On 2012-11-13 02:27, charles meyer wrote:Hi Folks,MS Word has a comparison chart which shows you how to perform certaintasks in Word compared to how you effect them in WordPerfect.It's an easy chart to check (and learn) Word if you've been a WordPerfect user.Ex. Ctrl/F8 will perform a certain task in WordPerfect but that
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is it possible to show cell value with text
Thanks Dan, Link/Guides look good :) Regards, Viral Orpe From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is it possible to show cell value with text http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Download the Calc Guide from this link. It may help. --Dan On 11/13/2012 08:06 PM, Viral Orpe wrote: Hi Johnny, May be I should go through Calc documents/ How to use Calc or something similar! I have used Excel/Calc in a hands on approach - using the drop down menu one gets after clicking the = sign for entering a formula, a generous use of F1, exploring the menus/ icons on tool-bar and of course, Google. So, (now it seems, obviously) I do not know the full capabilities of either software. I may not have needed/ used/ or thought possible many aspects/ functionalities of these applications that are standard practice for most users! And, hence the confusion. Got to get back to the basics :) Thanks anyways, Regards, Viral Orpe :) --- Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual Core E6600 CPU 3.00GHz Memory : 4GB, DDR3 OS : Linux Mint 12 Lisa - Kernel Linux 3.0.0-13-generic (i686) LibreOffice : LibreOffice 3.4.3 OOO340m1 (Build:302) Processor : Intel (R) Pentium(R) III Memory : 256MB SDRAM (!?), 20GB IDE OS : Vector Linux - Kernel (???) LibreOffice : Yet to try.. ! --- From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com To: LibreOffice Användare users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is it possible to show cell value with text 2012/11/13 Viral Orpe viral.o...@yahoo.com: Thanks Johnny, Season's Greetings!! (Today we are celebrating Diwali Festival and New Year here - India) I would like to know what is this language used to talk to Calc? And would appreciate any pointers to any literature, guides etc. I know C and have worked with formulas - this combination is new to me. I am not sure what you are asking. So far in this thread we have only talked about cell formulas, as far as I have seen. Those are the same as those in Excel, at least most of them. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ Thanks, Regards, Viral Orpe :) From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com To: Viral Orpe viral.o...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is it possible to show cell value with text 2012/11/12 Viral Orpe viral.o...@yahoo.com: Hi John, Checked your reply on list-archives :) Somehow must have missed on 6th Nov when it first appeared. Please, what is the stand for? =A1 B1 is the same as =CONCATENATE(A1;B1) Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ Dave_ had asked the question with a + So, I guess this is some standard way of doing things(name?) with slightly diff syntax. I have never known it can be done that way - text and formula together in a cell. I have always used adjacent cells - one with the text part and another with the formula. Any pointers would be great. Thanks, Regards, Viral Orpe :) --- Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual Core E6600 CPU 3.00GHz Memory : 4GB, DDR3 OS : Linux Mint 12 Lisa - Kernel Linux 3.0.0-13-generic (i686) LibreOffice : LibreOffice 3.4.3 OOO340m1 (Build:302) --- From: John Clegg john.cl...@nailsea.net To: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is it possible to show cell value with text This was a thread from 5th November which I answered to the group. He thanked me but got fooled by the stupid group reply settings. On 11 November 2012 16:24, Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/11/2012 11:03 AM, dave_ wrote: Thanks for the solution. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.** documentfoundation.org/Is-it-**possible-to-show-cell-value-** with-text-tp4016842p4018036.**htmlhttp://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Is-it-possible-to-show-cell-value-with-text-tp4016842p4018036.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. How can we give you a solution when you have not yet given us the problem? It appears that you are using Calc. But what to you mean by show
Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
Hi :) +1 They often seem to think it's going to take them just as long to learn LO as it took them to learn MSO. Of course it takes a lot less time because most of the ideas are the same or similar. I'm currently struggling with a lady that seems determined to use the space-bar instead of; tabs, indents, centre, right-aligned, columns, tables. Most people have taken years to learn those sorts of things and seem to think they are going to have to re-learn all of that. Today she protested that LO wasn't as easy as i had made out but my boss (an MS fanboy) stepped in and somehow told her nicely a better way = to do the typing first and then apply formatting afterwards! Fantastic!! :) Regards from Tom :) From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 14:05 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart Paying special attention to the Styles Chapters is definitely important; maybe the most important chapters to look at. A guidance for LibO beginners could help to move people from MSO to LibO. I observe that many people are sticking with MSO because with huge efforts they learned to use MSO (most often just very basics) and don't want to take an effort to learn something new without a good guidance. On 2012-11-14 20:38, Tom Davies wrote: Hi:) I think just working through the Getting Started guide helps hugely. Pay special attention to the Styles chapter. wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications I had to help someone tidy up a Word document yday and it was a total Pita. Fortunately they are very unfamiliar with MS-anything so; 1. They didn't do so many of the weirdnesses that people learn to use to really stuff-up their documents and make them unreadable to everyone that isn't using their system 2. There is some hope of pushing them straight into using LO Regards from Tom :) From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 8:00 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart When I wrote my comment I was not thinking about the change of a font, but getting something which helps to understand how Writer work and a support to unlearn Word. I am currently struggling with unlearning Word and Power Point. On 2012-11-13 22:56, VA wrote: Yes, MS completely redesigned the user interface with Word 2007, so any chart made for Word 2003 could be very different for one made for Word 2007. I'm not sure how effective a chart would be, for LibO and Word, in many ways, just think differently. LibO uses not only paragraph styles but also page styles, which is a completely foreign concept to MS. So, it's not just about hitting a sequence of mouse clicks in the right order; it's about relearning how to create, edit, and format documents. There are typically several ways to accomplish a task, and the LibO method that is most like Word may not be the best way to get things done. To get the most out of LibO, you might find yourself having to deliberately unlearn Word. To be sure, you can find things in the Writer menu that are similar to the Word menu, but the power of an office suite comes in learning how the program thinks, which is working at a deeper level than simply selecting a font from a drop-down box, etc. Virgil ps. Can someone fix the annoying feature of this list that you must hit reply all to send a reply to the list? I'm constantly sending out duplicates of my messages because my first one only went to one person. No other list I belong to has that behavior. My apologies to Dr. Stapf for the rerun. -Original Message- From: Dr. R. O Stapf Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 2:22 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart I know that the creation of such a tool would take very important dev resources, but it would be a good tool to promote LIbO Writer. But why to compare with Word 2003? As far as I know a big change has taken place with Word 2007 (or 2010?)/ On 2012-11-13 02:27, charles meyer wrote: Hi Folks, MS Word has a comparison chart which shows you how to perform certain tasks in Word compared to how you effect them in WordPerfect. It's an easy chart to check (and learn) Word if
Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
I think LO is easier to use than MSO2003. That was before the Ribbon UI was created. What I hated about MSO-2003-Word, was how long it took to be to the point where I could do anything. Then there were all these side-bar options that I could not get to stop showing up and slowing down my use of Word. LO, even at its slowest opening versions was faster to get to the point of typing/editing my document. Yes, the UI is different than MSO and we need to see about some graphic/chart showing new users where the options are in the menu-bar. I know some packages show that type of thing in a printed sheet for new users. I had one for MSO. A company called BarCharts, Inc. does a very good job creating quick study guides. I have some of their Math and Science laminated QUICK STUDY Academic sheets. I find that they were great for helping me with the formulas needs when I was substituting as a Math teacher. I have not bought any since the late 90's, but the company seems to have 5 or 10 times the number of titles since I bought the sheets from them. Word 2010 sheet - http://www.barcharts.com/Inventory/Navision/9781423214526 This company has MSO guides, but no LibreOffice ones. It would be interesting if we could get such a quick reference guide sheet created for LibreOffice. The basics should not change over the various versions. The basic UI and menu option placements should not change [much] between lines either. On 11/14/2012 10:18 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) +1 They often seem to think it's going to take them just as long to learn LO as it took them to learn MSO. Of course it takes a lot less time because most of the ideas are the same or similar. I'm currently struggling with a lady that seems determined to use the space-bar instead of; tabs, indents, centre, right-aligned, columns, tables. Most people have taken years to learn those sorts of things and seem to think they are going to have to re-learn all of that. Today she protested that LO wasn't as easy as i had made out but my boss (an MS fanboy) stepped in and somehow told her nicely a better way = to do the typing first and then apply formatting afterwards! Fantastic!! :) Regards from Tom :) From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 14:05 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart Paying special attention to the Styles Chapters is definitely important; maybe the most important chapters to look at. A guidance for LibO beginners could help to move people from MSO to LibO. I observe that many people are sticking with MSO because with huge efforts they learned to use MSO (most often just very basics) and don't want to take an effort to learn something new without a good guidance. On 2012-11-14 20:38, Tom Davies wrote: Hi:) I think just working through the Getting Started guide helps hugely. Pay special attention to the Styles chapter. wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications I had to help someone tidy up a Word document yday and it was a total Pita. Fortunately they are very unfamiliar with MS-anything so; 1. They didn't do so many of the weirdnesses that people learn to use to really stuff-up their documents and make them unreadable to everyone that isn't using their system 2. There is some hope of pushing them straight into using LO Regards from Tom :) From: Dr. R. O Stapf reinh...@stapf-online.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 8:00 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart When I wrote my comment I was not thinking about the change of a font, but getting something which helps to understand how Writer work and a support to unlearn Word. I am currently struggling with unlearning Word and Power Point. On 2012-11-13 22:56, VA wrote: Yes, MS completely redesigned the user interface with Word 2007, so any chart made for Word 2003 could be very different for one made for Word 2007. I'm not sure how effective a chart would be, for LibO and Word, in many ways, just think differently. LibO uses not only paragraph styles but also page styles, which is a completely foreign concept to MS. So, it's not just about hitting a sequence of mouse clicks in the right order; it's about relearning how to create, edit, and format documents. There are typically several ways to accomplish a task, and the LibO method that is most like Word may not be the best way to get things done. To get the most out
RE: [libreoffice-users] Diwali
Just to add to number of ways you can say it : Happy The Wall-E (refer : https://play.google.com/store/movies/details/Wall_E?id=5RcNwlq7JSwfeature=nav_result#?t=W10.) I can get my daughter more interested in it saying it this way :-) -Original Message- From: Joel Madero [mailto:jmadero@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:41 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Diwali On 11/13/2012 04:10 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Happy Diwali all! In my country it is not an official holiday so some of us celebrated it last weekend and others will celebrate this coming weekend and some are hoping to do both! Enjoy dancing and have fun :) (Perhaps some relevant photos?) Regards from Tom :) Happy happy Deepavali :) Regards, Joel -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Downloading the new LO
Hi Ian Le 2012-11-13 09:10, Ian Whitfield a écrit : *SO* - Bottom line Where can I find a plain old .exe installer for LO 3.6.3? *PS* - I'm also wanting to upgrade my PCLinuxOS version as well - so where are the plain rpm files for this?? Thanks for any help. IanW Pretoria RSA. If you are on your PCLinux computer, it should auto-detect the files you need. If not, then right below the Download LibreOffice title and you will see the line: LibreOffice Linux - rpm (x86_64), version 3.6.3, English (US). Not the version you wanted? Change System, Version or Language Click on the link on that line Change System, Version or Language and follow the choice after this. NB: You may want to check the software repository for your distro, it may already have the latest version available there. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Downloading the new LO
On 11/14/2012 11:43 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Ian Le 2012-11-13 09:10, Ian Whitfield a écrit : *SO* - Bottom line Where can I find a plain old .exe installer for LO 3.6.3? *PS* - I'm also wanting to upgrade my PCLinuxOS version as well - so where are the plain rpm files for this?? Thanks for any help. IanW Pretoria RSA. If you are on your PCLinux computer, it should auto-detect the files you need. If not, then right below the Download LibreOffice title and you will see the line: LibreOffice Linux - rpm (x86_64), version 3.6.3, English (US). Not the version you wanted? Change System, Version or Language Click on the link on that line Change System, Version or Language and follow the choice after this. NB: You may want to check the software repository for your distro, it may already have the latest version available there. Cheers, Marc I think the person uses PCLinux but wanted to download a copy for Windows for the teacher friend. Actually, there was a thread about some versions of Linux that did not get detected properly, when the new-auto-detect system was added with the new download page design. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Downloading the new LO
Hi :) I think the main problem was with the button-that-is-not-really-a-button. Each thing that looks like a button has 2 or 3 choices within it. The aim was to reduce confusion but every once in a while someone gets thrown by it. [shrugs] More people were more confused by the previous way we had it so it's getting better. I had forgotten about it as an issue until the correct answer appeared yday or whenever. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 16:53 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Downloading the new LO On 11/14/2012 11:43 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Ian Le 2012-11-13 09:10, Ian Whitfield a écrit : *SO* - Bottom line Where can I find a plain old .exe installer for LO 3.6.3? *PS* - I'm also wanting to upgrade my PCLinuxOS version as well - so where are the plain rpm files for this?? Thanks for any help. IanW Pretoria RSA. If you are on your PCLinux computer, it should auto-detect the files you need. If not, then right below the Download LibreOffice title and you will see the line: LibreOffice Linux - rpm (x86_64), version 3.6.3, English (US). Not the version you wanted? Change System, Version or Language Click on the link on that line Change System, Version or Language and follow the choice after this. NB: You may want to check the software repository for your distro, it may already have the latest version available there. Cheers, Marc I think the person uses PCLinux but wanted to download a copy for Windows for the teacher friend. Actually, there was a thread about some versions of Linux that did not get detected properly, when the new-auto-detect system was added with the new download page design. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Sun Report Builder on LibreOffice Base?
Hi All, I'm using LibreOffice 3.5 on Linux Mint 13 KDE and downloaded the sun report builder which I've used on OpenOffice with success. The download appears to have gone well and Base has added the option to create a report with the design function, but that’s as far as it goes. When calling up this option, nothing happens and the wizard option also doesn’t function until I disable the report builder. Is Report Builder not compatible with LibreOffice or am I doing something wrong? Any help or advice would be appreciated. Vince -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Sun Report Builder on LibreOffice Base?
On 11/14/2012 12:30 PM, Vincent wrote: Hi All, I'm using LibreOffice 3.5 on Linux Mint 13 KDE and downloaded the sun report builder which I've used on OpenOffice with success. The download appears to have gone well and Base has added the option to create a report with the design function, but that’s as far as it goes. When calling up this option, nothing happens and the wizard option also doesn’t function until I disable the report builder. Is Report Builder not compatible with LibreOffice or am I doing something wrong? Any help or advice would be appreciated. Vince My LO 3.5.7 for Ubuntu has an extension already included called Report Builder 1.2.1. Since Sun has been out of the picture for OOo for years, I think this Report Builder was included in all of the LO packages as a replacement. I could bewrong, but as I said, I have Report Builder included when I installed version 3.5.7. I think it was these since the 3.4.x versions as well. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
e: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
There are still many Word 2003 users as 2007 did not offer many spectacular advances (especially for the price so many businesses, educational and nonprofit orgs, gov't, etc. did not upgrade to the ribbons. I found the ribbons at work not to be a problem as others did but there are plenty of 2003 Word users who still will not be upgrade into 2010, 2013, etc. because many have found it's diminishing returns. It costs a lot of time (training, classes, tutorials, trial and error) and money (training, money lost while being trained) to re-learn Word with each upgrade and the returns have been found by many to be minimal in comparison to the costs. Here's my bold proposal, s'il vous plaît? How about if we (end users) on this list all contribute our shortcuts we've learned transitioning from Word (2003, 2007) to Libre Office? We could create on our own a chart with column headings ... Ex. FunctionLibre WriterWord 2003 Word 2007 Set default font? x x much like WordPerfect did many years ago where you can look at the chart for a function (e.g. changing the default font for all documents created) and next to that have the method used in Libre Writer and next to that the method the method used in Word 2003 and next that Word 2007. Along the way we can all contribute to each of those columns what we have learned. Many Word and WordPerfect users I speak with won't use Libre Writer because of the learning curve. They already spent a lot of time (and often aggravation) leaning Word 2003, 2007 and/or the latest WP development their attitude is - Oh, no! Not another one! But, if they could get up to speed quickly with a cheat sheet with at least the most often used features/functions of a word processor like Libre Writer then they would be more apt to use it and more likely not feel they have to buy another Word version. There was a time when users were afraid of Open Source software. Early versions may have been too complicated, too many bugs or they would hear of the apocryphal (often unfounded) tales of the horrors of Open Source software. That's no longer true. Users learned over time the world would not end if they didn't use Internet Explorer to browse the web - that Firefox and Opera actually worked just fine and attracted less badware. They they tried Thunderbird, pdf995 and Audacity and lo and behold they not only worked well and easier their friends and family still loved them...as much as they ever did or could. So, as users became more educated about Open Source software they realized they could use it, it wouldn't make their heads explode and they enjoyed pocketing all their savings. They also learned there were some great forums on the net where you could reach out to other users and they would share their workable solutions. So, what do you say?! Shall we start on that chart and slowly but surely fill it in along the way and educate others about how Libre Writer can be their wordoprocessor of choice? Or we could just eat dark chocolate. It's all good. Charles. Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:33:25 -0500 To: users@global.libreoffice.org WE do need to have some document comparing MSO [2003, 2007, 2010, and 2013] with LibreOffice as part of a Marketing Tool. We need to be able to show our users that what they are using MSO for, they can use LO to do the same. There are many advantages in using LO instead of MSO, besides the price of the software, and we need to have some official list/document from LO/TDF that describes these advantages. YES - I would like to see a chart comparing features with MSO. The last one I used was MSO2003, but we need to have LO compared to MSO 2010/13 as well. 2010 is the current version and we need to compare LO with MS's current package. It would be nice to get a MSO2013 beta and see how LO compares with that package. I know that there are differences in the UI, but the functions are the important part. Import/Export filters. MSO does not have a Draw style package, as far as I remember. Things like that. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: e: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
I like that idea charles. I remember the Wordperfect sheet and even shor tcuts you stuck on the top of the keyboard. I have not used word past 6.0 for dos, so for me it would be useful for me to explain to someone using word what I am doing in LO. steve On 2012-11-15 09:17, charles meyer wrote: There are still many Word 2003 users as 2007 did not offer many spectacular advances (especially for the price so many businesses, educational and nonprofit orgs, gov't, etc. did not upgrade to the ribbons. I found the ribbons at work not to be a problem as others did but there are plenty of 2003 Word users who still will not be upgrade into 2010, 2013, etc. because many have found it's diminishing returns. It costs a lot of time (training, classes, tutorials, trial and error) and money (training, money lost while being trained) to re-learn Word with each upgrade and the returns have been found by many to be minimal in comparison to the costs. Here's my bold proposal, s'il vous plaît? How about if we (end users) on this list all contribute our shortcuts we've learned transitioning from Word (2003, 2007) to Libre Office? We could create on our own a chart with column headings ... Ex. FunctionLibre WriterWord 2003 Word 2007 Set default font? x x much like WordPerfect did many years ago where you can look at the chart for a function (e.g. changing the default font for all documents created) and next to that have the method used in Libre Writer and next to that the method the method used in Word 2003 and next that Word 2007. Along the way we can all contribute to each of those columns what we have learned. Many Word and WordPerfect users I speak with won't use Libre Writer because of the learning curve. They already spent a lot of time (and often aggravation) leaning Word 2003, 2007 and/or the latest WP development their attitude is - Oh, no! Not another one! But, if they could get up to speed quickly with a cheat sheet with at least the most often used features/functions of a word processor like Libre Writer then they would be more apt to use it and more likely not feel they have to buy another Word version. There was a time when users were afraid of Open Source software. Early versions may have been too complicated, too many bugs or they would hear of the apocryphal (often unfounded) tales of the horrors of Open Source software. That's no longer true. Users learned over time the world would not end if they didn't use Internet Explorer to browse the web - that Firefox and Opera actually worked just fine and attracted less badware. They they tried Thunderbird, pdf995 and Audacity and lo and behold they not only worked well and easier their friends and family still loved them...as much as they ever did or could. So, as users became more educated about Open Source software they realized they could use it, it wouldn't make their heads explode and they enjoyed pocketing all their savings. They also learned there were some great forums on the net where you could reach out to other users and they would share their workable solutions. So, what do you say?! Shall we start on that chart and slowly but surely fill it in along the way and educate others about how Libre Writer can be their wordoprocessor of choice? Or we could just eat dark chocolate. It's all good. Charles. Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:33:25 -0500 To: users@global.libreoffice.org WE do need to have some document comparing MSO [2003, 2007, 2010, and 2013] with LibreOffice as part of a Marketing Tool. We need to be able to show our users that what they are using MSO for, they can use LO to do the same. There are many advantages in using LO instead of MSO, besides the price of the software, and we need to have some official list/document from LO/TDF that describes these advantages. YES - I would like to see a chart comparing features with MSO. The last one I used was MSO2003, but we need to have LO compared to MSO 2010/13 as well. 2010 is the current version and we need to compare LO with MS's current package. It would be nice to get a MSO2013 beta and see how LO compares with that package. I know that there are differences in the UI, but the functions are the important part. Import/Export filters. MSO does not have a Draw style package, as far as I remember. Things like that. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Anchoring images and inserting pages.
Hi. There has been previous discussion on anchoring images in LO. Certainly an area for improvement, I have a document with many images, anchored to page as anchoring to paragraph and anchoring to character are not working well. Now I need to insert 2 pages but my images won't stay anchored to the page I anchored them to. Is there a simple work around anyone knows of. Thanks, steve -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: e: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
On 11/14/2012 04:03 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote: I like that idea charles. I remember the Wordperfect sheet and even shor tcuts you stuck on the top of the keyboard. I have not used word past 6.0 for dos, so for me it would be useful for me to explain to someone using word what I am doing in LO. steve +1 Like Steve I rarely use Word so I do not specifically remember MSO layout. On 2012-11-15 09:17, charles meyer wrote: There are still many Word 2003 users as 2007 did not offer many spectacular advances (especially for the price so many businesses, educational and nonprofit orgs, gov't, etc. did not upgrade to the ribbons. I found the ribbons at work not to be a problem as others did but there are plenty of 2003 Word users who still will not be upgrade into 2010, 2013, etc. because many have found it's diminishing returns. It costs a lot of time (training, classes, tutorials, trial and error) and money (training, money lost while being trained) to re-learn Word with each upgrade and the returns have been found by many to be minimal in comparison to the costs. Here's my bold proposal, s'il vous plaît? How about if we (end users) on this list all contribute our shortcuts we've learned transitioning from Word (2003, 2007) to Libre Office? We could create on our own a chart with column headings ... Ex. FunctionLibre WriterWord 2003Word 2007 Set default font?xx much like WordPerfect did many years ago where you can look at the chart for a function (e.g. changing the default font for all documents created) and next to that have the method used in Libre Writer and next to that the method the method used in Word 2003 and next that Word 2007. Along the way we can all contribute to each of those columns what we have learned. Many Word and WordPerfect users I speak with won't use Libre Writer because of the learning curve. They already spent a lot of time (and often aggravation) leaning Word 2003, 2007 and/or the latest WP development their attitude is - Oh, no! Not another one! But, if they could get up to speed quickly with a cheat sheet with at least the most often used features/functions of a word processor like Libre Writer then they would be more apt to use it and more likely not feel they have to buy another Word version. There was a time when users were afraid of Open Source software. Early versions may have been too complicated, too many bugs or they would hear of the apocryphal (often unfounded) tales of the horrors of Open Source software. That's no longer true. Users learned over time the world would not end if they didn't use Internet Explorer to browse the web - that Firefox and Opera actually worked just fine and attracted less badware. They they tried Thunderbird, pdf995 and Audacity and lo and behold they not only worked well and easier their friends and family still loved them...as much as they ever did or could. So, as users became more educated about Open Source software they realized they could use it, it wouldn't make their heads explode and they enjoyed pocketing all their savings. They also learned there were some great forums on the net where you could reach out to other users and they would share their workable solutions. So, what do you say?! Shall we start on that chart and slowly but surely fill it in along the way and educate others about how Libre Writer can be their wordoprocessor of choice? Or we could just eat dark chocolate. It's all good. Charles. Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:33:25 -0500 To: users@global.libreoffice.org WE do need to have some document comparing MSO [2003, 2007, 2010, and 2013] with LibreOffice as part of a Marketing Tool. We need to be able to show our users that what they are using MSO for, they can use LO to do the same. There are many advantages in using LO instead of MSO, besides the price of the software, and we need to have some official list/document from LO/TDF that describes these advantages. YES - I would like to see a chart comparing features with MSO. The last one I used was MSO2003, but we need to have LO compared to MSO 2010/13 as well. 2010 is the current version and we need to compare LO with MS's current package. It would be nice to get a MSO2013 beta and see how LO compares with that package. I know that there are differences in the UI, but the functions are the important part. Import/Export filters. MSO does not have a Draw style package, as far as I remember. Things like that. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All
Re: [libreoffice-users] - novice question about scalc and C++ uno objects
Remember, I have never done this, but, you want to know how to cast an
object to the required interface. So, I simply looked for a few examples
http://moutou.pagesperso-orange.fr/MyUNODoc_HTML/UNOCppAPI4.html
I found this in listing 4.16
*// Don't forget to add : #include com/sun/star/frame/XStorable.hpp*
*// Don't forget to add com.sun.star.frame.XStorable \ in the makefile*
*ReferenceXStorable storeable(comp, UNO_QUERY);*
*if (storeable-hasLocation()) {*
*OString loc = OUStringToOString(storeable-getLocation(),*
*RTL_TEXTENCODING_ASCII_US);*
*printf(-- %s\n,loc.pData-buffer);*
*}*
Some of this is probably useful
http://www.openoffice.org/udk/cpp/man/tutorial/unointro.html
This is old
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Using_Cpp_with_the_OOo_SDK
On 11/13/2012 12:31 PM, Rai, Neeraj wrote:
Hi Andrew,
I know you said you don't work with c++/java, but you are only hope I can see
so far :-) Hope I am not bothering too much.
After a few more find/grep, I found class XSpreadsheetDocument in a dir that I
had specified as OO_SDK_OUTPUT_DIR.
You were right about the examples being similar. I was able to port most of the
lines from Scalc.java to Scalc.cxx.
I am now down to last line
xSpreadSheetDoc = (XSpreadSheetDocument)
UnoRuntime.queryInterface(XSpreadSheetDocument.class, xComp);
This looks so java specific, I am not even sure what google or grep.
Any links/googlable key words would be appreciated.
Thx
Neeraj
-Original Message-
From: Rai, Neeraj [ICG-MKTS]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:16 AM
To: 'and...@pitonyak.org'; 'users@global.libreoffice.org'
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] - novice question about scalc and C++ uno
objects
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for responding. Maybe I am looking in wrong place.
The Java examples :
http://api.libreoffice.org/examples/examples.html#Java_examples
The C++ examples :
http://api.libreoffice.org/examples/examples.html#Cpp_examples
I see only 4 C++ examples.
I can't find the class used in Scalc.java (XSpreadsheetDocument) in sdk/include.
Is there any other dir I should look in ?
Thanks
Neeraj
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [mailto:and...@pitonyak.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:20 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] - novice question about scalc and C++ uno
objects
On 11/12/2012 06:28 PM, Rai, Neeraj wrote:
Hi ,
I am trying to learn about UNO objects and how to remotely update scalc data. I
have looked at Scalc.java and would like to convert it to c++.
What is the best way to go about it and are there cpp examples publicly
available ?
The cpp examples that come with libreoffice (remoteclient/docloader etc) don't
seem to get interact with scalc.
Any pointers / links/ tutorials and samples would be appreciated.
Thanks
Neeraj
Although I don't spend time writing in C++ or Java (to access OOo), my
expectation is that the Java and the C++ examples will look very similar.
I thought that the examples in the developer's guide were in C++
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Anchoring images and inserting pages.
On 11/14/2012 05:35 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. There has been previous discussion on anchoring images in LO. Certainly an area for improvement, I have a document with many images, anchored to page as anchoring to paragraph and anchoring to character are not working well. Now I need to insert 2 pages but my images won't stay anchored to the page I anchored them to. Is there a simple work around anyone knows of. Thanks, steve Suggestion: anchor images As character in an empty paragraph. I just finished rewriting a document with several images in 80+ pages. The images remained where they were anchored. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Anchoring images and inserting pages.
Hi :) Alternatively just insert the pages and then cutpaste the images back to the correct page. Their position on the 'new' page remains exactly the same as it was. Regards from Tom :) From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 23:35 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Anchoring images and inserting pages. On 11/14/2012 05:35 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. There has been previous discussion on anchoring images in LO. Certainly an area for improvement, I have a document with many images, anchored to page as anchoring to paragraph and anchoring to character are not working well. Now I need to insert 2 pages but my images won't stay anchored to the page I anchored them to. Is there a simple work around anyone knows of. Thanks, steve Suggestion: anchor images As character in an empty paragraph. I just finished rewriting a document with several images in 80+ pages. The images remained where they were anchored. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: e: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart
Actually, Jay, I have found the transitions from MSOffice normally quite easy, both with LO and OO; it may be that I automate so few things, and I certainly would appreciate a cheat sheet, but it's not a deal killer for me personally. Sometimes I think people TELL you they don't want to change because it's difficult, but the real reason is something else--corporate environment, etc. I've become addicted to open source software (Scribus, Gimp...) because it works, it's easy to get the new releases, and for the most part, it's very satisfactory. There will always be a few aficionados who want things just like Word, etc., but I doubt they will ever change. Steve Bradley On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/14/2012 04:03 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote: I like that idea charles. I remember the Wordperfect sheet and even shor tcuts you stuck on the top of the keyboard. I have not used word past 6.0 for dos, so for me it would be useful for me to explain to someone using word what I am doing in LO. steve +1 Like Steve I rarely use Word so I do not specifically remember MSO layout. On 2012-11-15 09:17, charles meyer wrote: There are still many Word 2003 users as 2007 did not offer many spectacular advances (especially for the price so many businesses, educational and nonprofit orgs, gov't, etc. did not upgrade to the ribbons. I found the ribbons at work not to be a problem as others did but there are plenty of 2003 Word users who still will not be upgrade into 2010, 2013, etc. because many have found it's diminishing returns. It costs a lot of time (training, classes, tutorials, trial and error) and money (training, money lost while being trained) to re-learn Word with each upgrade and the returns have been found by many to be minimal in comparison to the costs. Here's my bold proposal, s'il vous plaît? How about if we (end users) on this list all contribute our shortcuts we've learned transitioning from Word (2003, 2007) to Libre Office? We could create on our own a chart with column headings ... Ex. FunctionLibre WriterWord 2003Word 2007 Set default font?xx much like WordPerfect did many years ago where you can look at the chart for a function (e.g. changing the default font for all documents created) and next to that have the method used in Libre Writer and next to that the method the method used in Word 2003 and next that Word 2007. Along the way we can all contribute to each of those columns what we have learned. Many Word and WordPerfect users I speak with won't use Libre Writer because of the learning curve. They already spent a lot of time (and often aggravation) leaning Word 2003, 2007 and/or the latest WP development their attitude is - Oh, no! Not another one! But, if they could get up to speed quickly with a cheat sheet with at least the most often used features/functions of a word processor like Libre Writer then they would be more apt to use it and more likely not feel they have to buy another Word version. There was a time when users were afraid of Open Source software. Early versions may have been too complicated, too many bugs or they would hear of the apocryphal (often unfounded) tales of the horrors of Open Source software. That's no longer true. Users learned over time the world would not end if they didn't use Internet Explorer to browse the web - that Firefox and Opera actually worked just fine and attracted less badware. They they tried Thunderbird, pdf995 and Audacity and lo and behold they not only worked well and easier their friends and family still loved them...as much as they ever did or could. So, as users became more educated about Open Source software they realized they could use it, it wouldn't make their heads explode and they enjoyed pocketing all their savings. They also learned there were some great forums on the net where you could reach out to other users and they would share their workable solutions. So, what do you say?! Shall we start on that chart and slowly but surely fill it in along the way and educate others about how Libre Writer can be their wordoprocessor of choice? Or we could just eat dark chocolate. It's all good. Charles. Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Word 2003 to Libre Writer - Comparison Chart From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:33:25 -0500 To: users@global.libreoffice.org WE do need to have some document comparing MSO [2003, 2007, 2010, and 2013] with LibreOffice as part of a Marketing Tool. We need to be able to show our users that what they are using MSO for, they can use LO to do the same. There are many advantages in using LO instead of MSO, besides the price of the software, and we need to have some official list/document from LO/TDF that describes these advantages. YES - I would like to see a
RE: [libreoffice-users] - novice question about scalc and C++ uno objects
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for the links. I got bogged down by too much documentation. The below
link is helpful.
Neeraj
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From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [mailto:and...@pitonyak.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:15 PM
Cc: 'users@global.libreoffice.org'
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] - novice question about scalc and C++ uno
objects
Remember, I have never done this, but, you want to know how to cast an
object to the required interface. So, I simply looked for a few examples
http://moutou.pagesperso-orange.fr/MyUNODoc_HTML/UNOCppAPI4.html
I found this in listing 4.16
*// Don't forget to add : #include com/sun/star/frame/XStorable.hpp*
*// Don't forget to add com.sun.star.frame.XStorable \ in the makefile*
*ReferenceXStorable storeable(comp, UNO_QUERY);*
*if (storeable-hasLocation()) {*
*OString loc = OUStringToOString(storeable-getLocation(),*
*RTL_TEXTENCODING_ASCII_US);*
*printf(-- %s\n,loc.pData-buffer);*
*}*
Some of this is probably useful
http://www.openoffice.org/udk/cpp/man/tutorial/unointro.html
This is old
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Using_Cpp_with_the_OOo_SDK
On 11/13/2012 12:31 PM, Rai, Neeraj wrote:
Hi Andrew,
I know you said you don't work with c++/java, but you are only hope I can see
so far :-) Hope I am not bothering too much.
After a few more find/grep, I found class XSpreadsheetDocument in a dir that
I had specified as OO_SDK_OUTPUT_DIR.
You were right about the examples being similar. I was able to port most of
the lines from Scalc.java to Scalc.cxx.
I am now down to last line
xSpreadSheetDoc = (XSpreadSheetDocument)
UnoRuntime.queryInterface(XSpreadSheetDocument.class, xComp);
This looks so java specific, I am not even sure what google or grep.
Any links/googlable key words would be appreciated.
Thx
Neeraj
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From: Rai, Neeraj [ICG-MKTS]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:16 AM
To: 'and...@pitonyak.org'; 'users@global.libreoffice.org'
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] - novice question about scalc and C++ uno
objects
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for responding. Maybe I am looking in wrong place.
The Java examples :
http://api.libreoffice.org/examples/examples.html#Java_examples
The C++ examples :
http://api.libreoffice.org/examples/examples.html#Cpp_examples
I see only 4 C++ examples.
I can't find the class used in Scalc.java (XSpreadsheetDocument) in
sdk/include.
Is there any other dir I should look in ?
Thanks
Neeraj
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From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [mailto:and...@pitonyak.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:20 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] - novice question about scalc and C++ uno
objects
On 11/12/2012 06:28 PM, Rai, Neeraj wrote:
Hi ,
I am trying to learn about UNO objects and how to remotely update scalc
data. I have looked at Scalc.java and would like to convert it to c++.
What is the best way to go about it and are there cpp examples publicly
available ?
The cpp examples that come with libreoffice (remoteclient/docloader etc)
don't seem to get interact with scalc.
Any pointers / links/ tutorials and samples would be appreciated.
Thanks
Neeraj
Although I don't spend time writing in C++ or Java (to access OOo), my
expectation is that the Java and the C++ examples will look very similar.
I thought that the examples in the developer's guide were in C++
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Anchoring images and inserting pages.
On 2012-11-15 12:35, Dan Lewis wrote: On 11/14/2012 05:35 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. There has been previous discussion on anchoring images in LO. Certainly an area for improvement, I have a document with many images, anchored to page as anchoring to paragraph and anchoring to character are not working well. Now I need to insert 2 pages but my images won't stay anchored to the page I anchored them to. Is there a simple work around anyone knows of. Thanks, steve Suggestion: anchor images As character in an empty paragraph. I just finished rewriting a document with several images in 80+ pages. The images remained where they were anchored. Thanks, looked at that, but how do I get text wrap around when anchored as character. Steve -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Anchoring images and inserting pages.
Thanks Tom, that would have saved me some time. It is a pity there is no Insert page as opposed to a shove all text down one page. Also be nice if you could specify the paragraph or character to anchor to when anchored that way. Steve On 2012-11-15 12:44, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Alternatively just insert the pages and then cutpaste the images back to the correct page. Their position on the 'new' page remains exactly the same as it was. Regards from Tom :) From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2012, 23:35 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Anchoring images and inserting pages. On 11/14/2012 05:35 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote: Hi. There has been previous discussion on anchoring images in LO. Certainly an area for improvement, I have a document with many images, anchored to page as anchoring to paragraph and anchoring to character are not working well. Now I need to insert 2 pages but my images won't stay anchored to the page I anchored them to. Is there a simple work around anyone knows of. Thanks, steve Suggestion: anchor images As character in an empty paragraph. I just finished rewriting a document with several images in 80+ pages. The images remained where they were anchored. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Anchoring images and inserting pages.
At 16:59 15/11/2012 +1300, Steve Edmonds wrote: Also be nice if you could specify the paragraph or character to anchor [an image] to when anchored that way. You can. Click the image to select it - so that you see the eight coloured handles. You will now also see the anchor symbol, and you can drag the anchor to an alternative paragraph or character (as the case may be). I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Anchoring images and inserting pages.
Hi. But the anchor cannot be below the image or above another paragraph that is above or in line with the image. Put 2 images on the right of the page so text wraps left of them. Have 3 or 4 paragraphs in the space to the left of the images. Anchor both images to the top paragraph. Unless things have improved from 3.5 or I am missing things completely it doesn't work. It has worked in other software from a long time ago, so long I can't remember. You could move the anchor to any paragraph on the page and the image stayed relative to it. Cheers, Steve On 2012-11-15 17:49, Brian Barker wrote: At 16:59 15/11/2012 +1300, Steve Edmonds wrote: Also be nice if you could specify the paragraph or character to anchor [an image] to when anchored that way. You can. Click the image to select it - so that you see the eight coloured handles. You will now also see the anchor symbol, and you can drag the anchor to an alternative paragraph or character (as the case may be). I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
