Re: [libreoffice-users] open slowly

[Kieran Peckett]

If you look at the far right of your taskbar, does the LibreOffice
icon appear? (You may need to expand it by clicking the arrow)

On 26/05/2013, Tim Lloyd  wrote:
> Hi, this list does not accept attachments. Can you try again via the
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>
> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/
>
> Cheers
> On 05/26/2013 10:09 PM, Rinat Camalov wrote:
>>   Hello!
>> Libre office opens ods files very slow
>> I'm sending you file for example.
>> Thanks
>>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: problem with this website's security certificate

[Kieran Peckett]

Correction: it's

websi...@global.libreoffice.org

not

websies@ (the t was missing)

On 23/05/2013, Tom  wrote:
> Hi :)
> Has the issue been resolved well enough?  IE8 was discovered to have a large
> number of extremely serious vulnerabilities around the time of the original
> posting to the extent that MS released patches outside of their usual "Patch
> Tuesday" schedule.
>
> Opera is better, faster and safer.  Firefox seems to be the most popular
> web-browser at the moment.  It's also faster, safer and better.  Gaming
> sites report something like 80% of on-line gamers at their site use Firefox.
> Chrome is shed loads faster so i would have expected Gamers to use that
> more.  Generally i would recommend having 2 web-browsers so that if the main
> one you use goes wonky then you can use the other but i have only ever had
> problems with IE.  All the rest run for years without bumping into problems.
>
>
>
> However, it might be worth contacting the Websites Team, i think
> webs...@global.libreoffice.org
> to let them know about "Internet Explorer" issue.
>
> Of course MS are unhappy about the existence of LibreOffice, OpenOffice and
> the rest so my guess is that they will start to put resources into scaring
> people away from their competition.  Presumably using tactics similar to the
> ones that landed them in court over issues such as "The browser wars"
> (really talking about web-browsers there, not file-browsers or any other
> sorts of  browsers) or the Rtf court case.  In both cases they were found
> guilty and got a slap on the wrist which they shrug off and work-around.
>
> We should put some resources into fixing simple things, such as the
> certificate, if we can but we can't jump at every little piece of FUD they
> try to throw in our path.  They have a large fan-base that seem quite happy
> to spread all sorts of nonsense without MS being responsible.
>
>
>
> Bob Power wrote
>> Works ok in Opera ( but then I have no idea what the settings are there
>> )...
>
> Probably a good plan to stick with Opera.  During it's court case against MS
> a lot of their resources went into the court-case.  Now that is over their
> resources are going to be diverted back into developing their web-browser.
> My guess is that they might develop fast enough to over-take Firefox in the
> next few years.  It's a good solid web-browser and has the advantage that
> not so many people use it.  Yet.
>
>
>
>
> Bob Power wrote
>> With IE 8 ;
>>
>> StartCom is in my trusted root certification authorities list.
>
> IE 8 was compromised quite severely at around the time of the posting.  MS
> tried to downplay it and suggested that the average home user or small
> office was probably safer than the nuclear research facilities that got
> affected because home users can switch on he MS Firewall.  They implied that
> nuclear facilities probably can't afford a £20 router/firewall or wouldn't
> have thought of security.
>
>
>
> Bob Power wrote
>> I then checked via http://www.digicert.com/help/ ssl certificate checker
>> and it shows common name LibreOffice.org all ok etc.
>>
>> So I suppose it could be IE 8 not knowing what to do with this particular
>> type of cert - I'm going to switch to FireFox soon
>
> So the main organisations behind issuing certificates agree that the
> LibreOffice ones are legit?  It's only MS that are claiming they aren't?
>
> Switching away from IE is a great idea.  you will probably find you have
> less security problems and less slow-downs as a result.  opera and Firefox
> are about equal.  Firefox is more popular and more widely used at the moment
> but that is not necessarily a good reason to prefer it to Opera.  The main
> thing is to get away from IE as much as possible.  I only use it for updates
> from microsoft.com, all of which are for "security" problems with MS
> products.
>
>
> Bob Power wrote
>> Suggestions ;
>> 1.
>> For some users with old stuff like me - XP / IE 8 etc - who are the most
>> likely to be looking for alternatives to MS Office - this will be
>> off-putting ( it will scare some people ) - and LibreOffice will lose some
>> potential converts.
>
> People that stick with IE8 are going to find the internet an increasingly
> dangerous place.  MS wants people to buy their new OSes and scaring them
> into it is a standard salesman tactic.  There is even a name for the tactic.
>
>
> LibreOffice/OpenOffice always loses potential new users due to FUD but that
> doesn't affect TDF's or Apache's profit/loss or income/expenditure.  It's
> only the users that lose out and they might have good reasons to try LO/OO
> again in a couple of years.  There is no need for a hard sell or to force
> people into 'buying into' something they have been made afraid of.  Let them
> find the problems with MS Office, such as huge costs and poor security, and
> eventually they will retry alternatives.
>
>
>
> Bob Power wrote
>> 2.
>> Some install notes on the help pack - I installed it but it doesn't sho

Re: [libreoffice-users] open slowly

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
LibreOffice does seem to open very slowly for me too but once it is open 
already i find it quite quick to open other documents.  So, if you opened a 
different document forst and then tried to open this one it might open faster?  

Also it might be worth bumping up your settings in 
Tools - Options - Memory

Ram tends to be very much higher these days, in the Giga-bytes range rather 
than just tens or hundreds of Mega-bytes.  Also cameras and phones take much 
heavier photos, in the tens of Mega-bytes rather than just a few hundred 
Kilo-bytes.  Although it is wise to scale them down to use in documents people 
often don't and then find their documents are tooo hugely heavy to email and 
slow to open.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Kieran Peckett 
>To: 
>Cc: users  
>Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 8:44
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] open slowly
> 
>
>If you look at the far right of your taskbar, does the LibreOffice
>icon appear? (You may need to expand it by clicking the arrow)
>
>On 26/05/2013, Tim Lloyd  wrote:
>> Hi, this list does not accept attachments. Can you try again via the
>> nabble interface?
>>
>> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/
>>
>> Cheers
>> On 05/26/2013 10:09 PM, Rinat Camalov wrote:
>>>   Hello!
>>> Libre office opens ods files very slow
>>> I'm sending you file for example.
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: problem with this website's security certificate

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Thanks!  It looks like i often miss the T in other things to.  I'm beginning to 
remember why i foisted this keyboard onto a rarely used machine.  I might have 
to go and buy a new keyboard to avoid RSI.  
Thanks and regards from 
om :)  





>
> From: Kieran Peckett 
>To: Tom  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 8:56
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: problem with this website's security 
>certificate
> 
>
>Correction: it's
>
>websi...@global.libreoffice.org
>
>not
>
>websies@ (the t was missing)
>
>On 23/05/2013, Tom  wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> Has the issue been resolved well enough?  IE8 was discovered to have a large
>> number of extremely serious vulnerabilities around the time of the original
>> posting to the extent that MS released patches outside of their usual "Patch
>> Tuesday" schedule.
>>
>> Opera is better, faster and safer.  Firefox seems to be the most popular
>> web-browser at the moment.  It's also faster, safer and better.  Gaming
>> sites report something like 80% of on-line gamers at their site use Firefox.
>> Chrome is shed loads faster so i would have expected Gamers to use that
>> more.  Generally i would recommend having 2 web-browsers so that if the main
>> one you use goes wonky then you can use the other but i have only ever had
>> problems with IE.  All the rest run for years without bumping into problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, it might be worth contacting the Websites Team, i think
>> webs...@global.libreoffice.org
>> to let them know about "Internet Explorer" issue.
>>
>> Of course MS are unhappy about the existence of LibreOffice, OpenOffice and
>> the rest so my guess is that they will start to put resources into scaring
>> people away from their competition.  Presumably using tactics similar to the
>> ones that landed them in court over issues such as "The browser wars"
>> (really talking about web-browsers there, not file-browsers or any other
>> sorts of  browsers) or the Rtf court case.  In both cases they were found
>> guilty and got a slap on the wrist which they shrug off and work-around.
>>
>> We should put some resources into fixing simple things, such as the
>> certificate, if we can but we can't jump at every little piece of FUD they
>> try to throw in our path.  They have a large fan-base that seem quite happy
>> to spread all sorts of nonsense without MS being responsible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Power wrote
>>> Works ok in Opera ( but then I have no idea what the settings are there
>>> )...
>>
>> Probably a good plan to stick with Opera.  During it's court case against MS
>> a lot of their resources went into the court-case.  Now that is over their
>> resources are going to be diverted back into developing their web-browser.
>> My guess is that they might develop fast enough to over-take Firefox in the
>> next few years.  It's a good solid web-browser and has the advantage that
>> not so many people use it.  Yet.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Power wrote
>>> With IE 8 ;
>>>
>>> StartCom is in my trusted root certification authorities list.
>>
>> IE 8 was compromised quite severely at around the time of the posting.  MS
>> tried to downplay it and suggested that the average home user or small
>> office was probably safer than the nuclear research facilities that got
>> affected because home users can switch on he MS Firewall.  They implied that
>> nuclear facilities probably can't afford a £20 router/firewall or wouldn't
>> have thought of security.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Power wrote
>>> I then checked via http://www.digicert.com/help/ ssl certificate checker
>>> and it shows common name LibreOffice.org all ok etc.
>>>
>>> So I suppose it could be IE 8 not knowing what to do with this particular
>>> type of cert - I'm going to switch to FireFox soon
>>
>> So the main organisations behind issuing certificates agree that the
>> LibreOffice ones are legit?  It's only MS that are claiming they aren't?
>>
>> Switching away from IE is a great idea.  you will probably find you have
>> less security problems and less slow-downs as a result.  opera and Firefox
>> are about equal.  Firefox is more popular and more widely used at the moment
>> but that is not necessarily a good reason to prefer it to Opera.  The main
>> thing is to get away from IE as much as possible.  I only use it for updates
>> from microsoft.com, all of which are for "security" problems with MS
>> products.
>>
>>
>> Bob Power wrote
>>> Suggestions ;
>>> 1.
>>> For some users with old stuff like me - XP / IE 8 etc - who are the most
>>> likely to be looking for alternatives to MS Office - this will be
>>> off-putting ( it will scare some people ) - and LibreOffice will lose some
>>> potential converts.
>>
>> People that stick with IE8 are going to find the internet an increasingly
>> dangerous place.  MS wants people to buy their new OSes and scaring them
>> into it is a standard salesman tactic.  There is even a name for the tactic.
>>
>>
>> LibreOffice/OpenOffice 

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice multiple cores - problem

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Please could you let us kow which OS you are using?  Even just knowing which 
platform might help a bit;  Windows, Mac, Gnu&Linux (Ubuntu, SUSE or 
whichever), Bsd?  The commands are likely to be very different on the first one 
compared to the other 3.  

It might also help to know which version of LibreOffice but only in a minor 
way.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Rinat Camalov 
>To: users  
>Sent: Sunday, 26 May 2013, 9:40
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice multiple cores - problem
> 
>
>Hello!!
>I use libreoffice over 1 year, but now I have one problem.
>Libreoffice is uses only one core from CPU, even if i have 6 cores it uses 
>only one. On my laptop it slows down documents opening, especially *.ods 
>documents.
>How can i make him use all CPU cores?
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Opening recent Writer documents takes me to start of doc in LibO v.4.0.3.3

[sun shine]

On 15/05/13 13:33, Sigrid Carrera wrote:

Hi,

Have you entered your name in the tools > Options settings?
LO needs to have at lease your name to be able to bring you to the 
last used position.



Sigrid


Thanks Tim and Sigrid for your suggestions, and sorry to have taken so 
long to respond.


I have tried these solutions as well as those given on the link Tim 
sent. However, after all of that, the only thing that gets me back to 
the last save is shift+F5. This is a good enough work around, but not 
really a fix. Even changing the ODF format version to 1.2 (not 1.2 
extended), giving personal information in the user data boxes did not 
help, and it seems that there are a few others as well.


This is the first time that this has happened with all of the upgrades, 
and I upgraded recently from the previous update (4.0.2, I think). 
Perhaps it'll be fixed in the next release.


Cheers

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[libreoffice-users] LO Base/MySQL Backup??

[Ian Whitfield]

Hi All

I'm now using the MySQL back-end (5.1.55) with LO Base (3.6.5.2) as my 
front-end - all on PCLOS 2013.


I've been "messing" around since late last year getting this all right, 
(with lots of GREAT help from the Forum!!)


My question now is - Where does MySQL store the Database and how do I 
track it down to make a backup?? Because of all my "messing" around I 
have several different files in the system that may be the right one but 
I'm not sure which is which.


I lost my whole Database at the beginning of the year when I 
re-installed my OpSys so DON'T want that to happen again and need a 
reliable backup method.


Any suggestions would be most welcome.

Thanks a lot

IanW
Pretoria RSA

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base/MySQL Backup??

[Dan Lewis]

On 05/27/2013 07:27 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:

Hi All

I'm now using the MySQL back-end (5.1.55) with LO Base (3.6.5.2) as my 
front-end - all on PCLOS 2013.


I've been "messing" around since late last year getting this all 
right, (with lots of GREAT help from the Forum!!)


My question now is - Where does MySQL store the Database and how do I 
track it down to make a backup?? Because of all my "messing" around I 
have several different files in the system that may be the right one 
but I'm not sure which is which.


I lost my whole Database at the beginning of the year when I 
re-installed my OpSys so DON'T want that to happen again and need a 
reliable backup method.


Any suggestions would be most welcome.

Thanks a lot

IanW
Pretoria RSA
 If I remember correctly, you have installed MyAdmin on your 
computer to perform administrative tasks for MySQL. Use it to create a 
backup file. (Backing up data is one of the administrative tasks.)


--Dan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice multiple cores - problem

[Kieran Peckett]

I suggest you report this using our bug reporter:
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/ - that way you will be able to get
the attention of a developer. Also, make sure that you respond to any
emails that you get which ask for more info, or the problem can't be fixed.
On 26 May 2013 20:47, "Rinat Camalov"  wrote:

>  Hello!!
> I use libreoffice over 1 year, but now I have one problem.
> Libreoffice is uses only one core from CPU, even if i have 6 cores it uses
> only one. On my laptop it slows down documents opening, especially *.ods
> documents.
> How can i make him use all CPU cores?
>
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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Base/MySQL Backup??

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 27/05/13 13:27, Ian Whitfield a écrit :


Hi Ian,

> My question now is - Where does MySQL store the Database and how do I
> track it down to make a backup?? Because of all my "messing" around I
> have several different files in the system that may be the right one but
> I'm not sure which is which.
> 

The data directory is usually to be found somewhere as a subdirectory in
/var


/var/lib/mysql
/var/data/mysql
/var/www/mysql (not really supposed to be there, but some distros do
some funky things)

or else somewhere in /usr/local/mysql (as is the case on OSX)

/usr/local/mysql/data/


Alex





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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Base/MySQL Backup??

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 27/05/13 13:27, Ian Whitfield a écrit :

Hi Ian,

Note that if you are using InnoDB as your engine for your database,
simply copying the whole data directory to somewhere else in the hope of
being able to copy it back one day if everything goes pear shaped will
not work. InnoDB uses a binary log to watch for changes to the database,
and these need to be replayed when re-installing your database. There is
a whole set of dedicated information for the tools that mysql provides
specifically for this purpose and which are run from the command line.

If you can't install mysql workbench, which I understand is problematic
from a brief reading of the PCLinuxOS forum, you could always try
installing MySQLAdministrator if you can find a suitable RPM for your
system. Although this has been officially abandoned by mysql as
end-of-life (and replaced by Workbench), it can still be used fairly
reasonably.

According to this post, you can find your mysql data directory here :
/var/lib/mysql

http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=103953.0


Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base/MySQL Backup??

[jomali]

mysqldump database name > filename (with authentication) is the best backup
method. You can look up the details in the docs.

On Monday, May 27, 2013, Ian Whitfield wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I'm now using the MySQL back-end (5.1.55) with LO Base (3.6.5.2) as my
> front-end - all on PCLOS 2013.
>
> I've been "messing" around since late last year getting this all right,
> (with lots of GREAT help from the Forum!!)
>
> My question now is - Where does MySQL store the Database and how do I
> track it down to make a backup?? Because of all my "messing" around I have
> several different files in the system that may be the right one but I'm not
> sure which is which.
>
> I lost my whole Database at the beginning of the year when I re-installed
> my OpSys so DON'T want that to happen again and need a reliable backup
> method.
>
> Any suggestions would be most welcome.
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> IanW
> Pretoria RSA
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice multiple cores - problem

[Adam Tauno Williams]

On Sun, 2013-05-26 at 12:40 +0400, Rinat Camalov wrote:
> I use libreoffice over 1 year, but now I have one problem.
> Libreoffice is uses only one core from CPU, even if i have 6 cores it
> uses only one. On my laptop it slows down documents opening,
> especially *.ods documents.
> How can i make him use all CPU cores?

I believe the use of only one core is 'normal',  Open/LibreOffice
appears to be a single process/thread.  I use an 8-core i7 workstation
[openSUSE 12.3/GNOME3.8] and opening my primary ODM [OpenOffice Master
Document] pegs one core briefly at 100% while the other cores take the
stray maintenance tasks [like zeitgeist,etc.. that get pinged whenever
something, like opening a LibreOffice file, happns].   While the
application is unresponsive for a moment it opens rather quickly [given
its complexity].

The spreadsheet in question matters [if it is very complicated, contains
nested formulas, has large images], as does your settings.  Getting more
cores probably is not the most effective way to more responsive
performance.  It is more likely a memory or I/O issue.

If you have a class-10 SD card, if you copy the file to there, and open
it [after rebooting], is it faster to open?  If so then it is an I/O
issue.  If you open LibreOffice [not the file, just Libreoffice] and
then exit LibreOffice, and then open the file is it faster?  If so then
it is the load time for LibreOffice and all its dependencies [many of
which will now be cached] and you should enable a preloaded or
LibreOffice quickstart to have that done ahead of time.  How long does
openning LibreOffice and creating a new document take compared to
opening your ODS?

When opening your ODS does it spend a lot of time at a particular phase
- "adapting row height" for example?




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libreoffice multiple cores - problem

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 26/05/13 10:40, Rinat Camalov a écrit :

Hi,


> I use libreoffice over 1 year, but now I have one problem.
> Libreoffice is uses only one core from CPU, even if i have 6 cores it uses 
> only one. On my laptop it slows down documents opening, especially *.ods 
> documents.
> How can i make him use all CPU cores?
> 


You can not. AFAIK, LibreOffice has not been coded to use parallel
multi-core instruction set processing.

See here also, where the same question was aksed :

http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/5371/is-lo-calc-capable-for-smp/

Alex


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[libreoffice-users] web-search application apparently linked to libreoffice download link...

[manases]

 

I have just been to download the beta of libreoffice 4.1. 

My click
initially returned a "setup.exe" file from StarApp, signed by Natan
Risman at email: ad...@amazingsoftware.info. (This info was displayed
when I inspected properties.) It apparently installs a search helper,
which I declined... 

Its a small program which does not contain a
threat according to avast antivirus... 

Just thought you might want to
investigate. 

I deleted it a returned to the link, which downloaded to
LO 4.1 beta as intended. 

Thanks for the good work. 

Manases 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libreoffice multiple cores - problem

[mariosv]

In windows the only option is select the core(s) for an application, but if
the app is designed for one, only one is used.

To get it is needed load the app from script (.bat) or from a Direct access.

E.g. to use core 1, edit a Direct access properties:

Destination:   C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /C start /affinity 2 soffice.exe
Start in:   "C:\Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 4.0\program\"

In this way I set up LibreOffice in  1, Firefox in  2, Thuntherbird in 3,
to avoid the core 0, what is the most commonly used by the apps.

Miguel Ángel



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Re: [libreoffice-users] open slowly

[Tim Lloyd]

Hi,

as this didn't make it to the list here it is for comments.

I am running Fedora 18/LO4.0.3.3 and it takes an age to load this 
spreadsheet - about 2 minutes! LO portable under windows was 
significantly faster - 30s.


Rinat, can you pls remember to copy the list when replying. I can point 
you in the right direction but the list contains a number of people who 
can help. Also an idea of your operating system plus what version of LO 
you are running would be helpful.


Cheers


On 05/27/2013 07:42 PM, Rinat Camalov wrote:




Понедельник, 27 мая 2013, 7:35 +10:00 от Tim Lloyd :

Hi, this list does not accept attachments. Can you try again via the
nabble interface?

https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/

Cheers
On 05/26/2013 10:09 PM, Rinat Camalov wrote:
> Hello!
> Libre office opens ods files very slow
> I'm sending you file for example.
> Thanks
>

Hello!! Thank you for so fast answer
here the link to file http://zalil.ru/34534314, it will be avalable 
for 10 days.
libre office open it in *.xls format in 5 seconds, but in ods is very 
slowly.
And Can libreoffice or Openoffice use all processors during 
calculating? When it opens files it uses only one core of 6 avalable.



PS here test that i found in internet http://zalil.ru/34534390 - ods 
file,

same data but in xlt format http://zalil.ru/34534402


PSS. In internet i so something about unstable multithreading in 
openoffice, is there avalable to download it? EVEN UNSTABLE?


AGAIN, THANK YOU!



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Re: [libreoffice-users] open slowly

[Tim Lloyd]

In addition to my last email I'll highlight that I have LO open all the 
time. So any delay in opening a file is just that, it is not the time 
taken to crank up LO.


Cheers

On 05/27/2013 06:05 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
LibreOffice does seem to open very slowly for me too but once it is open 
already i find it quite quick to open other documents.  So, if you opened a 
different document forst and then tried to open this one it might open faster?

Also it might be worth bumping up your settings in
Tools - Options - Memory

Ram tends to be very much higher these days, in the Giga-bytes range rather 
than just tens or hundreds of Mega-bytes.  Also cameras and phones take much 
heavier photos, in the tens of Mega-bytes rather than just a few hundred 
Kilo-bytes.  Although it is wise to scale them down to use in documents people 
often don't and then find their documents are tooo hugely heavy to email and 
slow to open.

Regards from
Tom :)







From: Kieran Peckett 
To:
Cc: users 
Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 8:44
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] open slowly


If you look at the far right of your taskbar, does the LibreOffice
icon appear? (You may need to expand it by clicking the arrow)

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Cheers
On 05/26/2013 10:09 PM, Rinat Camalov wrote:

Hello!
Libre office opens ods files very slow
I'm sending you file for example.
Thanks



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Re: [libreoffice-users] open slowly

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
The file itself is only 3.6 MB but when i opened it using an unzip tool I found 
the 

contents.xml = 166MB!!
There are 17 sheets and 1 of those has over 400 pages.  There is a lot of 
detail in there in a language i can't read (probably Russian at a guess).
Regards from 

Tom :)  





>
> From: Tim Lloyd 
>To: Rinat Camalov ; "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
> 
>Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 23:32
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] open slowly
> 
>
>Hi,
>
>as this didn't make it to the list here it is for comments.
>
>I am running Fedora 18/LO4.0.3.3 and it takes an age to load this 
>spreadsheet - about 2 minutes! LO portable under windows was 
>significantly faster - 30s.
>
>Rinat, can you pls remember to copy the list when replying. I can point 
>you in the right direction but the list contains a number of people who 
>can help. Also an idea of your operating system plus what version of LO 
>you are running would be helpful.
>
>Cheers
>
>
>On 05/27/2013 07:42 PM, Rinat Camalov wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Понедельник, 27 мая 2013, 7:35 +10:00 от Tim Lloyd :
>>
>>     Hi, this list does not accept attachments. Can you try again via the
>>     nabble interface?
>>
>>    https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/
>>
>>     Cheers
>>     On 05/26/2013 10:09 PM, Rinat Camalov wrote:
>>     > Hello!
>>     > Libre office opens ods files very slow
>>     > I'm sending you file for example.
>>     > Thanks
>>     >
>>
>> Hello!! Thank you for so fast answer
>> here the link to file http://zalil.ru/34534314, it will be avalable 
>> for 10 days.
>> libre office open it in *.xls format in 5 seconds, but in ods is very 
>> slowly.
>> And Can libreoffice or Openoffice use all processors during 
>> calculating? When it opens files it uses only one core of 6 avalable.
>>
>>
>> PS here test that i found in internet http://zalil.ru/34534390 - ods 
>> file,
>> same data but in xlt format http://zalil.ru/34534402
>>
>>
>> PSS. In internet i so something about unstable multithreading in 
>> openoffice, is there avalable to download it? EVEN UNSTABLE?
>>
>> AGAIN, THANK YOU!
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] open slowly

[Steve Edmonds]

Hi.
It opens in 14 seconds in my openSUSE 12.2/LO3.6.
I have an Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500T CPU @ 2.30GHz, 8 GB ram.

steve

On 2013-05-28 10:35, Tim Lloyd wrote:
In addition to my last email I'll highlight that I have LO open all 
the time. So any delay in opening a file is just that, it is not the 
time taken to crank up LO.


Cheers

On 05/27/2013 06:05 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
LibreOffice does seem to open very slowly for me too but once it is 
open already i find it quite quick to open other documents. So, if 
you opened a different document forst and then tried to open this one 
it might open faster?


Also it might be worth bumping up your settings in
Tools - Options - Memory

Ram tends to be very much higher these days, in the Giga-bytes range 
rather than just tens or hundreds of Mega-bytes.  Also cameras and 
phones take much heavier photos, in the tens of Mega-bytes rather 
than just a few hundred Kilo-bytes.  Although it is wise to scale 
them down to use in documents people often don't and then find their 
documents are tooo hugely heavy to email and slow to open.


Regards from
Tom :)







From: Kieran Peckett 
To:
Cc: users 
Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 8:44
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] open slowly


If you look at the far right of your taskbar, does the LibreOffice
icon appear? (You may need to expand it by clicking the arrow)

On 26/05/2013, Tim Lloyd  wrote:

Hi, this list does not accept attachments. Can you try again via the
nabble interface?

https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/

Cheers
On 05/26/2013 10:09 PM, Rinat Camalov wrote:

Hello!
Libre office opens ods files very slow
I'm sending you file for example.
Thanks



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[libreoffice-users] Re[3]: [libreoffice-users] open slowly

[Rinat Camalov]

 One of developers said that I shod create bug report.
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65046 -here it is


Вторник, 28 мая 2013, 5:21 +04:00 от Rinat Camalov :
>Hi, 
>
>Thank you for answer!!!
>I have several computers where I use LibreOffice and I am Sys Admin.
>I'm using latest stable, now it is 4.0.3.3 (ID сборки: 
>0eaa50a932c8f2199a615e1eb30f7ac74279539)
>
>PC - at home
>Windows 7 x64 Home premium
>Celeron E3300 2.5 GHz 2 cores
>3GB ram
>
>PC- at work (there is over 150, I can sit and work on any of it but the one I 
>use mostly)
>Windows 7 x64 Professional
>Core i3 2.6 GHz 4 cores
>4gb Ram
>
>Laptop
>Ubuntu 12.04 x64 and Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
>AMD APU E-450 1.6 GHz 2 cores
>4Gb ram
>(Interesting that on laptop in Ubuntu LibreOffice, also using one core, works 
>faster even though the laptop is slower than my PCs)
>
>Вторник, 28 мая 2013, 8:32 +10:00 от Tim Lloyd :
>>Hi,
>>
>>as this didn't make it to the list here it is for comments.
>>
>>I am running Fedora 18/LO4.0.3.3 and it takes an age to load this
spreadsheet - about 2 minutes! LO portable under windows was
significantly faster - 30s.
>>
>>Rinat, can you pls remember to copy the list when replying. I can
point you in the right direction but the list contains a number of
people who can help. Also an idea of your operating system plus what
version of LO you are running would be helpful.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>
>>On 05/27/2013 07:42 PM, Rinat Camalov
  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Понедельник, 27 мая 2013, 7:35 +10:00 от Tim Lloyd  :
Hi, this list
does not accept attachments. Can you try again via the 
nabble interface?

https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/

Cheers
On 05/26/2013 10:09 PM, Rinat Camalov wrote:
> Hello!
> Libre office opens ods files very slow
> I'm sending you file for example.
> Thanks
>

>>>Hello!! Thank you for so fast answer
>>>here the link to file  http://zalil.ru/34534314 , it will be
  avalable for 10 days.
>>>libre office open it in *.xls format in 5 seconds, but in ods is
  very slowly.
>>>And Can libreoffice or Openoffice use all processors during
  calculating? When it opens files it uses only one core of 6
  avalable.
>>>
>>>
>>>PS here test that i found in internet  http://zalil.ru/34534390 -
  ods file, 
>>>same data but in xlt format  http://zalil.ru/34534402
>>>
>>>
>>>PSS. In internet i so something about unstable multithreading in
  openoffice, is there avalable to download it? EVEN UNSTABLE?
>>>
>>>AGAIN, THANK YOU!
>>
>


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[libreoffice-users] Re[2]: [libreoffice-users] open slowly

[Rinat Camalov]

 Hi, 

Thank you for answer!!!
I have several computers where I use LibreOffice and I am Sys Admin.
I'm using latest stable, now it is 4.0.3.3 (ID сборки: 
0eaa50a932c8f2199a615e1eb30f7ac74279539)

PC - at home
Windows 7 x64 Home premium
Celeron E3300 2.5 GHz 2 cores
3GB ram

PC- at work (there is over 150, I can sit and work on any of it but the one I 
use mostly)
Windows 7 x64 Professional
Core i3 2.6 GHz 4 cores
4gb Ram

Laptop
Ubuntu 12.04 x64 and Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
AMD APU E-450 1.6 GHz 2 cores
4Gb ram
(Interesting that on laptop in Ubuntu LibreOffice, also using one core, works 
faster even though the laptop is slower than my PCs)

Вторник, 28 мая 2013, 8:32 +10:00 от Tim Lloyd :
>Hi,
>
>as this didn't make it to the list here it is for comments.
>
>I am running Fedora 18/LO4.0.3.3 and it takes an age to load this
spreadsheet - about 2 minutes! LO portable under windows was
significantly faster - 30s.
>
>Rinat, can you pls remember to copy the list when replying. I can
point you in the right direction but the list contains a number of
people who can help. Also an idea of your operating system plus what
version of LO you are running would be helpful.
>
>Cheers
>
>
>On 05/27/2013 07:42 PM, Rinat Camalov
  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Понедельник, 27 мая 2013, 7:35 +10:00 от Tim Lloyd  :
>>>Hi, this list
does not accept attachments. Can you try again via the 
>>>nabble interface?
>>>
>>>https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/
>>>
>>>Cheers
>>>On 05/26/2013 10:09 PM, Rinat Camalov wrote:
 Hello!
 Libre office opens ods files very slow
 I'm sending you file for example.
 Thanks

>>>
>>Hello!! Thank you for so fast answer
>>here the link to file  http://zalil.ru/34534314 , it will be
  avalable for 10 days.
>>libre office open it in *.xls format in 5 seconds, but in ods is
  very slowly.
>>And Can libreoffice or Openoffice use all processors during
  calculating? When it opens files it uses only one core of 6
  avalable.
>>
>>
>>PS here test that i found in internet  http://zalil.ru/34534390 -
  ods file, 
>>same data but in xlt format  http://zalil.ru/34534402
>>
>>
>>PSS. In internet i so something about unstable multithreading in
  openoffice, is there avalable to download it? EVEN UNSTABLE?
>>
>>AGAIN, THANK YOU!
>


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Re: [libreoffice-users] web-search application apparently linked to libreoffice download link...

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Thanks :)  The only thing wrong appears to be the extra software that was not 
clearly labelled as being separate from LibreOffice.  

It is fine for 3rd party sites to provide LibreOffice for download.  Similarly 
for 3rd parties providing LibreOffice on Cd/Dvd or other physical media along 
with other software.  People can even charge for providing the service and/or 
for the physical media as long as they provide links to the free Source Code.  
If they charge there is some expectation of them providing some reasonable 
share of the profit back into the LibreOffice community.  I think such 
endeavours can use the "Community Logo"
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:LibreOffice_external_logo_300px.png
as described in this link
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding#Logo_resources_for_community_members_and_external_use

The problems arise when people make modifications.  My feeling is that clicking 
on a download link on a 3rd party site and 1st getting some 3rd party tool that 
is not LibreOffice means it's a modification and shouldn't use the logo or the 
name.  

I guess we should push this to the marketing list for them to take care of?
Regards from 
Tom :)  






>
> From: "mana...@suremaths.com" 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Monday, 27 May 2013, 15:09
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] web-search application apparently linked to 
>libreoffice download link...
> 
>
>
>
>I have just been to download the beta of libreoffice 4.1. 
>
>My click
>initially returned a "setup.exe" file from StarApp, signed by Natan
>Risman at email: ad...@amazingsoftware.info. (This info was displayed
>when I inspected properties.) It apparently installs a search helper,
>which I declined... 
>
>Its a small program which does not contain a
>threat according to avast antivirus... 
>
>Just thought you might want to
>investigate. 
>
>I deleted it a returned to the link, which downloaded to
>LO 4.1 beta as intended. 
>
>Thanks for the good work. 
>
>Manases 
>
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