Re: [libreoffice-users] Language selection

2013-06-28 Thread Kiss András
Hi Tom,If you choose the Custom install, you can add more languages,
  and when they areinstalled you can select what you want in the
  tools/options/languageas language of the user interface.I hope it 
helpsBest RegardsAndrs :)2013.06.27. 20:56 keltezssel, Tom Daviesrta:
Hi :)
Did you manage to
solve this one in the end?If not please let us know and
then we will try again (hopefully)


Usually the language
is the one that is used by your operating system by
default.It might help us if you could tell us the name of
your operating system.


I vaguely remember someone
  pointing out that choosing Custom install rather than going
  with the default standard install does allow you to choose
  multiple different languages for UI and dictionaries.


Annoyingly it seems that
  Windows only allows you to have 1 language for the UI for all
  the users of a particular machine.So i now have 1 that has
  all it's menus in Japanese, 1 Arabic (or Urdu i can never tell
  the difference) and the rest i kept as English.One day i'll
  figure out how to get the odd 2 back into English, maybe.


Regards fromTom :)




From:Kiss

andrskissand...@softap.euto:users@global.libreoffice.orgSent:Saturday, 22 June 
2013, 22:43Subject:[libreoffice-users] Language selection
Dear Sirs,Your site offer the choose of the language for the
  install package, but it seems, the install package
  decide independent the language of the installation by
  the language of the operating system.It means, I
  couldn't install libreoffice Hungarian version on a
  machine,on which the operating system is German.I look
  forward to your advice and thank you in advanceAndrs Kiss




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Language selection

2013-06-28 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks :)  

So it sounds like you have solved this now?  

I just need to catch one of the ladies at work that can read Urdu and Arabic in 
order to get them to change the language back to English!  Either that or count 
the lines in the menus to try to get the right option in a language i can't 
read!  Oh, or delete the User Profile of course.  The Japanese one is fine 
staying in Japanese.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Kiss András kissand...@softap.eu
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Friday, 28 June 2013, 9:50
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Language selection
 


Hi Tom,

If you choose the Custom install, you can add more languages,
  and when they are
installed you can select what you want in the
  tools/options/language  as language of the user interface.

I hope it helps

Best Regards

András :) 



2013.06.27. 20:56 keltezéssel, Tom Davies írta:

Hi :)
Did you manage to solve this one in the end?  If not please let us know and 
then we will try again (hopefully)


Usually the language is the one that is used by your operating system by 
default.  It might help us if you could tell us the name of your operating 
system.  



I vaguely remember someone pointing out that choosing Custom install rather 
than going with the default standard install does allow you to choose 
multiple different languages for UI and dictionaries.  



Annoyingly it seems that Windows only allows you to have 1 language for the 
UI for all the users of a particular machine.  So i now have 1 that has all 
it's menus in Japanese, 1 Arabic (or Urdu i can never tell the difference) 
and the rest i kept as English.  One day i'll figure out how to get the odd 2 
back into English, maybe.


Regards from 
Tom :)  









 From: Kiss András kissand...@softap.eu
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Saturday, 22 June 2013, 22:43
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Language selection
 

 Dear Sirs,
Your site offer the choose of the language for the
  install package, but it seems, the install package
  decide independent the language of the installation by
  the language of the operating system.It means, I
  couldn't install libreoffice Hungarian version on a
  machine,on which the operating system is German.I look
  forward to your advice and thank you in advance 
András Kiss






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin

2013-06-28 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Errr, me too now that i think about it but since a colleague pointed it out i 
now only do it if there  is a decent calculator easily to hand and that can get 
the answers right (or at least close enough).  Maybe i should leave a short-cut 
on his desktop.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; LibreOffice List 
users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013, 23:39
Subject: Re: off-list Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin
 

Been there...unfortunately as the one looking for a calculator, he said with 
a blush.

Virgil

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Davies
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:52 PM
To: Virgil Arrington ; LibreOffice List
Subject: off-list Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin

Hi :)
+1
My boss asked me if there was a calculator and i was really tempted to say
Start button - Accessories - Calculator
but instead just dusted off the old hand-held dedicated calculated that gets 
it wrong when i try 10/3 and then *3.  Then found he already had Excel open 
anyway.

Regards from
Tom :)







 From: Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com
To: William Drago wdr...@suffolk.lib.ny.us; LibreOffice List 
users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, 26 June 2013, 12:55
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin


William,

Your document would use page styles. The page style for the first page 
would
not have any headers. Then the page style for the subsequent pages would
have a header. You can then format the lines (paragraphs) within the header
to any left and right margin you would like. (To have margins extend beyond
the normal page margin, use negative numbers in your paragraph indent
settings.)

To get to the page styles, make sure you're styles list is showing (press
F11 if it isn't). Then, at the top of the list are icons for (from left to
right) paragraph styles, character styles, frame styles, and then page
styles (it looks like a sheet of paper). Click on that icon to see a list 
of
the page styles available for your document. You can then right click on 
any
one of them to modify them or create new ones. At this point, it would be
best for you to experiment with the page styles yourself, creating new ones
or modifying existing ones to get the result that you want. Take careful
note of the option on the organizer tab for next style as it will show
what page style will be used for the following page. Sometimes this can
cause some frustration. Also, there is an option in the header tab to set
left and right margins. It may not allow negative margin settings here (I
just tried it and it ignored me), so you may need to set negative margins 
at
the paragraph indent level rather than the header margin level.

It's all about learning to use styles, paragraph styles for paragraph level
formatting and page styles for page level formatting. It's a pain to learn,
and while you're learning you want to cuss out the LO developers, but once
you learn it, you'll bless them as you'll be able to make your documents
sing. The only way I know to learn is to experiment and play with them,
creating your own styles along the way. I know its frustrating when all you
want to do is finish the current project, but the more you learn now, the
more you'll be able to apply to future projects to make your work so much
quicker, automated, and consistent. It really is worth the effort.

What I find most interesting is the dark ages style of formatting papers
that you've been handed, with paragraph indents measured in spaces and
lines in terms of single double and triple spacing. Is this an
Underwood we're using or a computer?

As long as we remain entrenched in a typewriter mentality (even though many
of us have never typed a single letter on a typewriter), we will never 
learn
the advanced capabilities of our computers, which act more like printing
presses than typewriters.

Virgil


-Original Message- 
From: William Drago
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:01 AM
To: LibreOffice List
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin

All,

I am working on a research paper. The required page layout
puts last name, working title, and page number in the upper
right hand corner of each page, outside the right hand margin.

It is similar to what is shown here, but has to appear on
every page, not just the first page, and has to be outside
the right margin and closer to the top of the page.

http://www15.uta.fi/FAST/PK6/CITEX/TRADMOD/trad-mla.html

How can this be done in LO Writer?

Thanks,
-Bill


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problemas con campos de un formulario

2013-06-28 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Translating from the original Spanish

Hello, I'm creating a form offline, I'm using LibreOffice 4.0.4.2-2, my OS is 
Ubuntu 13.04 x86. 

The problem I have is with controls such as check boxes and option (radio) to 
add them and begin to use these forms; flash form, and sometimes appreciated 
and sometimes not.  I tested the form in other OS like Mac and is the same. 

Also tried the form in Openoffice 3.4 and there it works without problems. 

Appreciate any advice.


Regards from
Tom :)  







 From: rolandohb roland...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013, 19:08
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Problemas con campos de un formulario
 

Hola, estoy creando un formulario sin conexión, estoy usando LibreOffice
4.0.4.2-2, mi sistema operativo es Ubuntu 13.04 x86.

El problema que tengo es con controles como casillas de verificación y de
opción (radio) los mismos al agregarlos e iniciar a usar el formulario
dichos formularios parpadean, y algunas veces se aprecian y otras no. 

He probado el formulario en otro tipo de Sistema Operativo, como Mac y
sucede lo mismo. 

También probé el formulario en Openoffice 3.4 y allí si funciona sin
problemas.

Agradeceré cualquier consejo.

Gracias
Rolando Herrera



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[libreoffice-users] English speakers in translators team

2013-06-28 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
It might sound contra-intuitive but it might  really help if a few native 
English speakers could join the international translators team.  Preferably 
English (US) but even my (GB) seems to have been a big help.  


Even people that don't speak any other language other than English could help 
quite a lot.  Quite a lot of the internal descriptions were written by 
non-natives and/or geeks so the international translators team is now trying to 
proof-read the English and smooth-out oddly convoluted or nonsensical or even 
just things that look right but somehow feel wrong (or the other way around).  


Their list uses English for posting to the list so you really don't need a 2nd 
language in order to be a huge help there.  

Actually the same thing probably applies to other languages too.  If you only 
speak one language then you could still probably help a lot.  It's just that 
almost all translations seem to be done from the English so it's more crucial 
to get that one right or at least easier to read.  



Err there was the old joke about 

Q1:  What do you call a person that can speak lots of languages?
A1:  Multilingual (or Polyglot of course)

Q2:  What do you call someone that can only speak 1 language?
A2:  English  (or Japanese too apparently, as a Japanese buddy was telling me 
(in English))


Anyway, this is one time that even if that is true you can still help the 
translators team.  

Thanks and regards from 
Tom :)  

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?

2013-06-28 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


Just to let you all know. . .

The original post asked when will 4.0.4 Portable come out

Well, they are now listed on the PortableApp site.

http://portableapps.com/apps/office/libreoffice_portable



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-28 Thread William Drago
I was desperately look for this yesterday morning. I finally 
resorted to drawing a line using the draw menu.


Now I am trying to do it the new way, described below, and 
that doesn't work either.


On this page 
(https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Drawing_Lines_in_Text) 
the instructions say:


1. Create a horizontal line by applying the preset 
Paragraph Style Horizontal Line. Click into an empty 
paragraph, and double-click the Horizontal Line Style in the 
Styles and Formatting window. If the entry for horizontal 
lines is not visible in the list of Paragraph Styles, select 
All Styles in the lower listbox.


Well, there is no Horizontal Line Style listed even after 
selecting All Styles.


So, what is the official, documented replacement for Insert 
 Horizontal Line?


-Bill

On 6/13/2013 10:48 AM, Maurice Batey wrote:

Having installed Mageia-3 on a trial basis, I have come across an omission
in its LO 4.0.3.3 that I have been using on Mageia-2's LO 3.5.7.2, namely
'Insert: Horizontal rule'

The result is that any document prepared with 3.5.7.2 does not appear
correctly under 4.0.3.3.

I see from:

http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/14922/why-is-horizontal-line-broken-in-401/

that the omission is a deliberate change rather than accidental (although it 
seems
the Help info still  thinks otherwise...).

Why on earth drop a feature that people are using?
What is the rationale?

Failing any other solution to my problem, is there any way I can copy the
3.5.7.2 'ruler' file over in to 4.0.3.3 so that the latter shows the lines 
properly?




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-28 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
2 things

1.  Documentation is always playing catch up

2.  I think a bug report has been filed to try to get the feature put back into 
the next release (or a subsequent one if it doesn't make it back in so quickly)

Stuart was saying that if you type 3 - or ~ or (errr i can't remember the other 
character) then it creates the whole rest of the line for you.  Much the same 
happens in emails i think although you might have to use more than 3.  So on an 
empty line in Writer try 

---

~~~

e.

when you press enter after typing --- a single line appears.  Pressing it 
after the ~~~ makes a double-line.  

However, i have to say that getting a line from the draw menu was inspired.  
LibreOffice is designed for you to  create things in one of the apps/modules 
and then pull them into one of the other ones.  So you could make something 
fancy in Draw and then use that in Writer.  If opening Writer takes ages but 
after it's open you open a Draw document you will notice the Draw one appears 
really quite fast.  LO is much more tightly integrated like that than MSO.  

Regards from 
Tom :)  







 From: William Drago wdr...@suffolk.lib.ny.us
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Friday, 28 June 2013, 12:32
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is 
missing
 

I was desperately look for this yesterday morning. I finally 
resorted to drawing a line using the draw menu.

Now I am trying to do it the new way, described below, and 
that doesn't work either.

On this page 
(https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Drawing_Lines_in_Text) 
the instructions say:

1. Create a horizontal line by applying the preset 
Paragraph Style Horizontal Line. Click into an empty 
paragraph, and double-click the Horizontal Line Style in the 
Styles and Formatting window. If the entry for horizontal 
lines is not visible in the list of Paragraph Styles, select 
All Styles in the lower listbox.

Well, there is no Horizontal Line Style listed even after 
selecting All Styles.

So, what is the official, documented replacement for Insert 
 Horizontal Line?

-Bill

On 6/13/2013 10:48 AM, Maurice Batey wrote:
 Having installed Mageia-3 on a trial basis, I have come across an omission
 in its LO 4.0.3.3 that I have been using on Mageia-2's LO 3.5.7.2, namely
 'Insert: Horizontal rule'

 The result is that any document prepared with 3.5.7.2 does not appear
 correctly under 4.0.3.3.

 I see from:

 http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/14922/why-is-horizontal-line-broken-in-401/

 that the omission is a deliberate change rather than accidental (although it 
 seems
 the Help info still  thinks otherwise...).

 Why on earth drop a feature that people are using?
 What is the rationale?

 Failing any other solution to my problem, is there any way I can copy the
 3.5.7.2 'ruler' file over in to 4.0.3.3 so that the latter shows the lines 
 properly?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?

2013-06-28 Thread M Henri Day
2013/6/27 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 I'm on an Xp machine (well on the Windows side of a dual-boot machine) and
 LO 4.0.3 has a tiny little green arrow on the far right at the top just
 under the minimise, window, close buttons.  When i wave the mouse arrow
 over it a tool-tips yellow bubble appears telling me an update is
 available.

 Sadly when i click on that the magic doesn't happen.  It just opens a tab
 in Firefox taking me to the downloads page.

 Something else i find odd about the UI is that sometimes the Save
 button/icon looks like a floppy-disk (anyone else remember them?) and
 sometimes has a more modern, errr green arrow again.  I was proudly
 boasting to someone that LO was so advanced that it was the 1st program to
 move away from using the floppy-disk icon and then he showed me it was
 still there.  G

 Anyway, getting back on-topic it seems the protable version has been
 released at last.  Florian did his magic tricks and it's appeared.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


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  *From:* M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com
 *To:* Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
 *Cc:* Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com; Virgil Arrington 
 cuyfa...@hotmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org 
 users@global.libreoffice.org
 *Sent:* Thursday, 27 June 2013, 17:15

 *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable
 coming out?

 2013/6/27 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

  Hi :)
  Ok, that makes sense.  The problem now is to make the upgrade smoother so
  it's easier to upgrade within a branch, eg from
  4.0.1 to
  4.0.2 and onwards.
 
  Preferably not completely automatic but easy enough so that users can
  click on the upgrade button even if they don't have Super User / Admin
  level privileges.  Like Firefox allows.
 
  At the moment i think people still have to download and do a fresh
 install
  of the newer release even if it is in the same branch.
 
  I do get the impression that is what the devs are aiming for anyway.  The
  little green arrow is fairly new.  At the moment it just lets you know
  there is a new version to download but it looks like one day it will be
  possible to just click on that and sit back to watch the magic.
 
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 

 Generally speaking, Tom, my experience is that one has to go to the
 LibreOffice website and download the latest and greatest step every time it
 is released ; it is rarely that I see an update notice and that little
 green arrow. The above holds true for Windows 7 and 8 ; on Linux Mint all I
 have to do is wait for the Ubuntu PPAs to get updated - it took perhaps a
 little more than a week after the 4.0.4.2 was released for it automatically
 to be installed over 4.0.3.3. Hitherto I'm ver impressed with it - it seems
 to load even more quickly than its predecessor. Kudos to the developers
 !...

 Henri


...

Tom I've just finished upgrading 10 machines with different versions of
Windows - Win7 and Win8 - installed (on my Linux HDDs - Mint 15 and Ubuntu
12.04 - I let the Ubuntu PPA do the heavy lifting for me) and the arrow you
mention above - which I do remember having seen earlier, but not
consistently , never appeared. I'd like to suggest the following for the
consideration of the developers : placing a link to a «Check/Search for
updates» feature under «Help» in the LO menu bar. This would correspond to
received usage - and thus be «intuitive» to many users - and facilitate
checking for updates even if, as in my case, the arrow that is supposed to
appear under the window-management buttons should fail to do so

Henri

PS : On Linux Mint 15 with the Cinnamon desktop interface, the «Save» and
«Save as» icons are an A4 sheet with an arrow pointing downwards to the
right. Easy to understand (and the tool tip does say «Save»).  Agree with
you that it's high time the floppy disk icon was replaced - when I ask my
retirees what they think it is, they almost invariably reply : «an
old-fashioned TV»

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?

2013-06-28 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ahah.  Yes, it is not in the Ubuntu-ised versions and probably not on the 
direct upstream download for any GnuLinux.  It's only on the Windows 
version.  

Most programs seem to have their update thing in their Help menu so it would 
be good to have there too but i quite like it being so 'noticeable' [coughs].  
Even if it's a bit ambiguous and then doesn't quite do what you would expect 
when you do figure it out.  There is no reason i know of to have the feature in 
just one place as different places could point to the same actions.  

That is interesting to hear about the different icon styles.  It turns out that 
there are quite a selection that you can download to personalise your version 
of LibreOffice.  i haven't quite found out where yet.  

Regards from
Tom :)  







 From: M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com; Virgil Arrington 
cuyfa...@hotmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org 
users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Friday, 28 June 2013, 13:43
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?
 


2013/6/27 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

Hi :)
I'm on an Xp machine (well on the Windows side of a dual-boot machine) and LO 
4.0.3 has a tiny little green arrow on the far right at the top just under 
the minimise, window, close buttons.  When i wave the mouse arrow over it a 
tool-tips yellow bubble appears telling me an update is available.  

Sadly when i click on that the magic doesn't happen.  It just opens a tab in 
Firefox taking me to the downloads page.  

Something else i find odd about the UI is that sometimes the Save 
button/icon looks like a floppy-disk (anyone else remember them?) and 
sometimes has a more modern, errr green arrow again.  I was proudly boasting 
to someone that LO was so advanced that it was the 1st program to move away 
from using the floppy-disk icon and then he showed me it was still there. 
 G

Anyway, getting back on-topic it seems the protable version has been released 
at last.  Florian did his magic tricks and it's appeared.  
Regards from 
Tom :)  







 From: M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com
To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
Cc: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com; Virgil Arrington 
cuyfa...@hotmail.com; users@global.libreoffice.org 
users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Thursday, 27 June 2013, 17:15

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming 
out?
 

2013/6/27 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk

 Hi :)
 Ok, that makes sense.  The problem now is to make the upgrade smoother so
 it's easier to upgrade within a branch, eg from
 4.0.1 to
 4.0.2 and onwards.

 Preferably not completely automatic but easy enough so that users can
 click on the upgrade button even if they don't have Super User / Admin
 level privileges.  Like Firefox allows.

 At the moment i think people still have to download and do a fresh install

 of the newer release even if it is in the same branch.

 I do get the impression that is what the devs are aiming for anyway.  The
 little green arrow is fairly new.  At the moment it just lets you know
 there is a new version to download but it looks like one day it will be
 possible to just click on that and sit back to watch the magic.

 Regards from
 Tom :)


Generally speaking, Tom, my experience is that one has to go to the
LibreOffice website and download the latest and greatest step every time it
is released ; it is rarely that I see an update notice and that little
green arrow. The above holds true for Windows 7 and 8 ; on Linux Mint all I
have to do is wait for the Ubuntu PPAs to get updated - it took perhaps a
little more than a week after the 4.0.4.2 was released for it automatically
to be installed over 4.0.3.3. Hitherto I'm ver impressed with it
 - it seems
to load even more quickly than its predecessor. Kudos to the developers !...

Henri


...

Tom I've just finished upgrading 10 machines with different versions of 
Windows - Win7 and Win8 - installed (on my Linux HDDs - Mint 15 and Ubuntu 
12.04 - I let the Ubuntu PPA do the heavy lifting for me) and the arrow you 
mention above - which I do remember having seen earlier, but not consistently 
, never appeared. I'd like to suggest the following for the consideration of 
the developers : placing a link to a «Check/Search for updates» feature under 
«Help» in the LO menu bar. This would correspond to received usage - and thus 
be «intuitive» to many users - and facilitate checking for updates even if, as 
in my case, the arrow that is supposed to appear under the window-management 
buttons should fail to do so

Henri

PS : On Linux Mint 15 with the Cinnamon desktop interface, the «Save» and 
«Save as» icons are an A4 sheet with an arrow pointing downwards to the right. 
Easy to understand (and the tool tip does say «Save»).  Agree with you that 
it's high time the floppy 

RE: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-28 Thread V Stuart Foote
From: William Drago [wdr...@suffolk.lib.ny.us]
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 6:32 AM
...  Horizontal Line Style in the Styles and Formatting window. If the entry 
for horizontal
 lines is not visible in the list of Paragraph Styles, select All Styles in 
 the lower listbox.
Well, there is no Horizontal Line Style listed even after selecting All Styles.

No, it is there. open the Styles and Formatting window,  first button on the 
Formatting toolbar (or just enter F11).

When panel opens, if still set to install defaults, you'll be on the Paragraph 
tab with Default Style selected and the filter dropdown list set to 
Automatic. With that filter in place Horizontal Line is not a listed paragraph 
style.  Change the drop down filter to ALL, or to HTML and you'll see the 
Horizontal Line.

Unfortunately, the line weights for the paragraph border (just the bottom edge) 
set by the Horizontal Line style default settings are too thin. And the 
associated text handling for the paragraph style don't seem correct--but that 
could just be misuse on my part. 

Paragraph bottom border assigned as horizontal line with auto-replace of 
character triplets seem to have more reasonable default line weights--but since 
those are a direct styling of each paragraph, it is more efficient in the 
long run to figure out use of the style and formatting panel to handle whole 
document.

Stuart

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.0.3.3: 'Insert: Horizontal rule' is missing

2013-06-28 Thread Brian Barker

At 07:32 28/06/2013 -0400, William Drago wrote:

On 6/13/2013 10:48 AM, Maurice Batey wrote:
... I have come across an omission in its LO 4.0.3.3 ..., namely 
'Insert: Horizontal rule'


I was desperately look for this yesterday morning. I finally 
resorted to drawing a line using the draw menu.  Now I am trying to 
do it the new way, described below, and that doesn't work either.


So, what is the official, documented replacement for Insert  Horizontal Line?


Workarounds:

o Type three or more asterisks, underscores, equals signs, negative 
signs, hash marks, or swung dashes as a new paragraph (immediately 
followed by Enter, that is).  Instead of seeing a new paragraph, you 
will see one of a variety of borders attached to the preceding 
paragraph.  This line is a property of that paragraph, not an entity 
by itself - but the relevant paragraph can be otherwise empty, of course.


o You can instead apply such borders directly to a paragraph or 
paragraph style.  Right-click in the paragraph and select 
Paragraph... or Edit Paragraph Style... as preferred.  Go to the 
Borders tab and select a style and position for a border - above or 
below the paragraph.  Again, the paragraph itself could be empty.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] Re: styles for plays?

2013-06-28 Thread Ken Springer

On 6/26/13 7:46 AM, Helen wrote:

I've volunteered to edit a one-time publication of a collection of plays.
The plays came to me
in different styles -- three of the plays came to me with all the
characters's speaking lines
  centered -- the characters's names centered a line above.

Some of the writers seem to have centered the names with a centering code
-- I can
highlight the name and use the left margin code to move the name to left
margin.  Others
seem to have centered by spacing over! (yes)  and I have to backspace until
I get the name
to the left margin.

None used a colon after the speaker, and the publisher wants it.  I've made
some progress with
Search  Replace --  Search for all incidents of TOM and replace with TOM
colon space. But the
most tedious part is moving TOM from center to left and bring his speaking
lines up to begin
on the same line.  Is there any way I can put these plays into a style
sheet and save this work, or
would creating  the style sheet take as long as what I'm doing?  I've never
used styles.  And this is a one-time
job so if I have to do it all by hand, at least it's only once.

Thanks for any advice,


Hi, Helen,

I thought for some time about posting this, but I'm getting into the 
mindset of looking for the best tool for a job, and offering the best 
suggestion I have for solutions.  Just not going to worry about 
irritating anyone anymore.


Since this is a one time thing, there's a program out there for 
scriptwriters and such, called Scrivener.  It has a 30 day trial period. 
 It is certainly different, you may find it somewhat confusing to pick up.


It's not meant to replace a traditional word processor, it's more of a 
specialized document processor, but it may do the job.


I'm doing some research to correct errors in an interpretive 
presentation I do daily at work, and I couldn't be happier with the 
ability to store all your research notes in one place.


This is a specialty tool, and I still have the current LO installed. 
If your project is fairly large, it may be worth your time to take a 
quick look.  If you want to know more offline, since this isn't a 
Scrivener help list, feel free to contact me.  The email address is valid.


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Mac OS X 10.8.4
Firefox 20.0
Thunderbird 17.0.5
LibreOffice 4.0.3.3


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[libreoffice-users] Nabble or smth like that

2013-06-28 Thread NickKolok
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RE: [libreoffice-users] Nabble or smth like that

2013-06-28 Thread V Stuart Foote
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Nabble or smth like that

2013-06-28 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
To use Nabble you do still need to be subscribed to the list, unless you don't 
want to be able to post to it.  

There are different options for how you subscribe though.  There is one called 
nomail although i am not certain it works the way one would expect.  So, it 
might be better to use the Digest method to resubscribe.
Regards from 
Tom :)  






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users@global.libreoffice.org 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Problemas con campos de un formulario

2013-06-28 Thread rolandohb
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