Re: [libreoffice-users] Bibliography entry system and word/character counting

2013-08-17 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Le 17/08/2013 12:46, Krunoslav Šebetić a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> think that LO should have (a little bit) better bibliography entry
> system. Every thing works just fine, but I miss some features with thing
> I'm writing now.
> 
> When I do Insert - Indexes an tables - Bibliography entry I can insert
> entry from the document or from Bibliography database. Thing is that the
> reference system I use require shortening of textnotes:

You should try Zotero instead which works well with LO.

Best regards.
JBF

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Battle of the Office Suites: Microsoft Office and LibreOffice Compared

2013-08-17 Thread Urmas

"Paul":

Yeah, bad troll is truly terrible.


Meanwhile you could work on a feature parity with Microsoft Word 2.0, from 
1991.




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[libreoffice-users] Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Ichitaro filter

2013-08-17 Thread Jean Weber
Perhaps someone here can help this person?


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From: Spidey-Westland 
Date: Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:27 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Ichitaro filter
To: documentat...@global.libreoffice.org


Howdy

I need a filter for open *.jtd files.

But I do not seen a filter as I open the file.

Do I have to using last versie of LibreOffice? (linux)

regards

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Battle of the Office Suites: Microsoft Office and LibreOffice Compared

2013-08-17 Thread Robert Holtzm
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 02:43:29AM +0700, Urmas wrote:
> "James Knott":
> 
> >Here's an article you can show to others.
> >http://lifehacker.com/battle-of-the-office-suites-microsoft-office-and-libre-1147940828
> 
> What a ridiculous article. The LO suite inadequacy is clear to any
> who worked with it more than 15 minutes. The reason for this is
> implementing features by an order from Sun/Oracle/RH/whatever or by
> cargo-cult feature transfer. It is clear that no one actually did
> their work with it by themselves.

FUD spreading M$ fanboy.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Can't find setting

2013-08-17 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2013-08-17 4:39 PM Brian Barker wrote:(You are now talking received messages
again, right?)  Correct - but also even if the text was
formatted, in fact.  In the case of this mailing list, for
example, only the plain text version of what you send is
distributed, so your formatting is lost before your text reaches
anyone.Does this list strip HTML messages?
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't find setting

2013-08-17 Thread Brian Barker

At 15:22 17/08/2013 -0400, Tim Lungstrom wrote:
In Thunderbird's Preferences, you can choose what font the text of 
your email will be displayed in. By default, it seems it is "Times 
New Roman", but I now use "DejaVu Serif".


This is very confused.  What do you mean by "your email": presumably 
messages you *receive* - other people's messages, that is?  Yes, 
exactly so - so their authors *don't* get to say how their messages 
appear to you.


I then get to choose what font the email is written in, with the 
current default as "Times".  I just chose "DejaVu Serif" for the 
font of this text that I have typed here.


You think you are choosing the font in which your correspondents will 
see your messages.  But you have just contradicted that above, by 
saying (correctly) that as a recipient you can overrule such 
formatting choices.


So, you can decide which font you wish to display any text that does 
not have a font identifier built in, ...


(You are now talking received messages again, right?)  Correct - but 
also even if the text was formatted, in fact.  In the case of this 
mailing list, for example, only the plain text version of what you 
send is distributed, so your formatting is lost before your text 
reaches anyone.


... and you can define the font of the text you are sending in your 
email, more than one if you choose.


You can try, but you'll generally fail - for reasons including the 
one you give yourself.


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Battle of the Office Suites: Microsoft Office and LibreOffice Compared

2013-08-17 Thread Paul
Yeah, bad troll is truly terrible. Someone should teach him how to
troll.


On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 15:53:58 -0400
James Knott  wrote:

> Urmas wrote:
> > "James Knott":
> >
> >> Here's an article you can show to others.
> >> http://lifehacker.com/battle-of-the-office-suites-microsoft-office-and-libre-1147940828
> >>
> >
> > What a ridiculous article. The LO suite inadequacy is clear to any
> > who worked with it more than 15 minutes. The reason for this is
> > implementing features by an order from Sun/Oracle/RH/whatever or by
> > cargo-cult feature transfer. It is clear that no one actually did
> > their work with it by themselves.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Dang.  I left my shovel down in my car.
> 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't find setting

2013-08-17 Thread Paul
On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 15:22:43 -0400
Kracked_P_P---webmaster  wrote:

> So, you can decide which font you wish to display any text that does
> not have a font identifier built in, and you can define the font of
> the text you are sending in your email, more than one if you choose.

Actually, that's only if you're sending html content. If you're sending
plain text, no you can't. And even if you're sending html, you should
also be sending plaintext alongside it, for people like me that are
(most of the time, unless I choose otherwise) reading the plaintext
version. If you don't I just see the plaintext with the html tags in
it. I choose what font it displays in, so no, you have absolutely no
control over what font I see things in, unless I switch to html view.

I'm sure you know all that, but I felt it was worth pointing out for
the poor people out there using things like Outlook who don't know any
better.

Paul

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-17 Thread Dave Liesse
That would be correct.  It's the incoming mail that's scanned, not the 
outgoing -- and too many spam checkers look only at the IP address.  It 
doesn't matter if there are 4000 users on your shared, hosted server; as 
far as they're concerned if one's guilty, all are guilty, as if we have 
any say over who else shares the server.


Dave

On 8/17/2013 12:41, James Knott wrote:

Mark's Google A/c wrote:

I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the
mailing list over the last few weeks.

After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything
wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other
people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?

Mark Stanton




I occasionally get bounced mail from the different lists I'm on.  It's
usually the recipient that has the problem.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ichitaro filter

2013-08-17 Thread Mark LaPierre

On 08/17/2013 02:38 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

.jtd files


http://file.org/extension/jtd

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Battle of the Office Suites: Microsoft Office and LibreOffice Compared

2013-08-17 Thread James Knott
Urmas wrote:
> "James Knott":
>
>> Here's an article you can show to others.
>> http://lifehacker.com/battle-of-the-office-suites-microsoft-office-and-libre-1147940828
>>
>
> What a ridiculous article. The LO suite inadequacy is clear to any who
> worked with it more than 15 minutes. The reason for this is
> implementing features by an order from Sun/Oracle/RH/whatever or by
> cargo-cult feature transfer. It is clear that no one actually did
> their work with it by themselves.
>
>
>

Dang.  I left my shovel down in my car.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Battle of the Office Suites: Microsoft Office and LibreOffice Compared

2013-08-17 Thread Urmas

"James Knott":


Here's an article you can show to others.
http://lifehacker.com/battle-of-the-office-suites-microsoft-office-and-libre-1147940828


What a ridiculous article. The LO suite inadequacy is clear to any who 
worked with it more than 15 minutes. The reason for this is implementing 
features by an order from Sun/Oracle/RH/whatever or by cargo-cult feature 
transfer. It is clear that no one actually did their work with it by 
themselves.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-17 Thread James Knott
Mark's Google A/c wrote:
> I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the 
> mailing list over the last few weeks.
>
> After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything 
> wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other 
> people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?
>
> Mark Stanton
>
>
>

I occasionally get bounced mail from the different lists I'm on.  It's
usually the recipient that has the problem.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't find setting

2013-08-17 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 08/17/2013 12:56 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 10:47 17/08/2013 +0200, Andrew Brown wrote:
In the read word punctuation taught us when to take a breath, as with 
a continuous sentence separated by a comma, and a long full breath 
after the period, plus a space.


This suggests that the point of the printed word is solely to enable 
public speaking.  Those of us who can read without moving our lips do 
not need breaths between sentences!  I can breathe and read at the 
same time; can't you?  The true purpose of punctuation in written 
material is to clarify the structure of the material, not to indicate 
the pauses that might occur if the material were read aloud.


Now even as we type to each other in this email, we are using a sans 
serif font ...


That's what you think!  You sent this message in plain text, so no 
font was identified.  How I read it or anyone else does depends on how 
we decide or our mail clients choose to display it.  I'm doing the 
same: you don't know how this appears to me as I'm composing it and I 
don't know how you will see it.


Brian Barker




In Thunderbird's Preferences, you can choose what font the text of your 
email will be displayed in. By default, it seems it is "Times New 
Roman", but I now use "DejaVu Serif".  I then get to choose what font 
the email is written in, with the current default as "Times".  I just 
chose "DejaVu Serif" for the font of this text that I have typed here.


So, you can decide which font you wish to display any text that does not 
have a font identifier built in, and you can define the font of the text 
you are sending in your email, more than one if you choose.


As for punctuation and word spacing, try reading old Greek text or 
others of that era like that where they seem to not use spacings and 
punctuation in their text.  We need them whether we read a text out load 
or silently.  The internal punctuation gives you structure and also 
gives you a sense of "pausing" where the author wants such a thing to 
emphasize some word or portion of the text.


The punctuation in the sentence change the meaning of the sentence just 
by changing, adding, removing, key internal punctuation marks.  Of 
course over the 30+ years between high-school and the last college 
writing course, the standards and rules have changes on what is needed 
where and how best to use a comma or semicolon. But without these in the 
text of books that I personally like to read, it would not be as easy to 
read as it is now.


As for which fonts are best to use where, well whole college courses and 
majors can be needed to make the "best guess" on the science of what 
fonts are best for what and which fonts are "more readable" than 
others.  Book Publishers know what it best in the different types of 
books that publish.  One font for text books, another for entertainment 
reading.  The hard cover book fonts can be different than the paper back 
ones as well.  There is a science involved in the choosing of the 
"proper" fonts.  I just decide which looks best for me for ease of 
reading.  I am told Serif fonts work the best for "entertainment" 
reading, but which serif font is the best, only you can decide which one 
in your fonts collection works best for you.


.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ichitaro filter

2013-08-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I thought it might be good to forwards this to the Users List.  Please try to 
include Spidey-Westland in the CC field as he/she might not be subscribed to 
this list yet.  


Does anyone know  what .Jtd is or what program makes it?    

Regards from 
Tom :)  




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> From: Spidey-Westland 
>To: documentat...@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013, 18:27
>Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Ichitaro filter
> 
>
>Howdy
>
>I need a filter for open *.jtd files.
>
>But I do not seen a filter as I open the file.
>
>Do I have to using last versie of LibreOffice? (linux)
>
>regards
>
>Spidey-Westland
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't find setting

2013-08-17 Thread Brian Barker

At 10:47 17/08/2013 +0200, Andrew Brown wrote:
In the read word punctuation taught us when to take a breath, as 
with a continuous sentence separated by a comma, and a long full 
breath after the period, plus a space.


This suggests that the point of the printed word is solely to enable 
public speaking.  Those of us who can read without moving our lips do 
not need breaths between sentences!  I can breathe and read at the 
same time; can't you?  The true purpose of punctuation in written 
material is to clarify the structure of the material, not to indicate 
the pauses that might occur if the material were read aloud.


Now even as we type to each other in this email, we are using a sans 
serif font ...


That's what you think!  You sent this message in plain text, so no 
font was identified.  How I read it or anyone else does depends on 
how we decide or our mail clients choose to display it.  I'm doing 
the same: you don't know how this appears to me as I'm composing it 
and I don't know how you will see it.


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-17 Thread Thomas Taylor
On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:00:22 +0100 (BST)
Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
> For some reason this post got blocked and had to be rescued by the
> moderators.  I'm not sure what is going on and my email client doesn't make
> it easy to read much in the headers to find out.
> 
> I've not seen many other messages from Mark in the list of blocked messages.  
> Apols and regards from 
> Tom :)  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > From: Mark's Google A/c 
> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
> >Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013, 10:44
> >Subject: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail
> > 
> >
> >I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the 
> >mailing list over the last few weeks.
> >
> >After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything 
> >wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other 
> >people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?
> >
> >Mark Stanton
> >
> >
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Looking at the headers from the OP the message was re-routed 9 times.  It might
have been blocked at any point in that list and tracing it would be very
difficult.

My first suggestion would be to try one of the "free" internet providers
(gmail, hotmail, etc.)to see if the message was still being blocked.

Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't find setting

2013-08-17 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 17 August 2013 03:47, Andrew Brown  wrote:

> It has been found that a serif font with normal punctuation and spacing
> leads the eye to faster reading as opposed to sans serif. Man tests have
> been done with this. So the article written in the provided link, is found
> to be hard to read as it is a sans serif font used.

Well, yes and no. In reading text on paper, readers in several
European countries tend to do better with sans-serif text than text
with serifs. Most people in the U.S. prefer text with serifs. But when
it comes to reading text on a screen (especially in medium-to-low
resolutions and almost always with small text) most readers tend to do
better with sans-serif text (serifs tend not to display well).


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-17 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


It happened to me when one of my email hosting company's black listing 
services "lists" decided that the IP address of one of LO's servers was 
to be blacklisted.  The IP address was blacklisted for a user 10 years 
before LO "bought" the IP address for the server.


It could be that your email client picked up something similar. If one 
of their lists shows that one of LO's IP addresses should be blacklisted 
based upon previous "users" of that address, then most of your emails to 
the list will not get through.  Also your service can reject receiving 
emails from our servers as well.


You might want to contact your service and see if any IP addresses in 
your headers are in one their black lists they use.  Maybe they can add 
LO back in a white list.




On 08/17/2013 06:00 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
For some reason this post got blocked and had to be rescued by the moderators.  
I'm not sure what is going on and my email client doesn't make it easy to read 
much in the headers to find out.

I've not seen many other messages from Mark in the list of blocked messages.
Apols and regards from
Tom :)







From: Mark's Google A/c 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013, 10:44
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail


I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the
mailing list over the last few weeks.

After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything
wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other
people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?

Mark Stanton



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Re: [libreoffice-users] File size - additional but deleted items?

2013-08-17 Thread anne-ology
   Which LO # are you using?; I would say you've found a bug in that LO
#  ;-)



On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Uwe Dippel  wrote:

I have made a large presentation. Then I removed all slides but two.
> Though, the file size has not changed at all. I think that the deleted
> slides (no, I did not just 'hide' them!) are still there. The reason for my
> thought: When I create a 'New' presentation, and import an existing one,
> that with only two slides left, all the long deleted slides, after a 'Save'
> and a 'Close' are still there. How can I remove a slide for good; and in a
> way that it is actually gone; and the file size actually reduced?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Uwe
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't find setting

2013-08-17 Thread Virgil Arrington

On 08/16/2013 10:08 PM, James Knott wrote:

Virgil Arrington wrote:

Just curious, since nearly every professionally published book since
the mid-1900s has had one space after sentence ending punctuation, do
you find reading books difficult?

I just picked up the closest book I had at hand.  It's "Computer
Networks", by Andrew Tanenbaum & David Wetherall, 5th edition, published
in 2012 by Pearson.. It has wider spacing between sentences than words.
Second book I picked off my bookshelf is "Ethernet The Definitive Guide"
by Charles Spurgeon, 1st edition, 2000, from O'Reilly.  It also has
wider spacing between sentences.  That's 2 for 2 of the first 2 books I
grabbed.




You and I obviously have different tastes in literature. But, no matter, 
I'll follow Tom's advice and let the matter go. I'm happy to follow the 
advice of the overwhelming majority of professional typographers. If you 
don't want to, you don't have to, and I'll respect that.


Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't find setting

2013-08-17 Thread James Knott
Felmon Davis wrote:
> anyway, I agree with Tom we shouldn't disagree about agreeing to
> disagree.

I disagree.  ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't find setting

2013-08-17 Thread Virgil Arrington

On 08/16/2013 11:18 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote:

On 2013-08-16 8:22 PM James Knott wrote:

I just tried a little experiment.  I typed a sentence, with a period at
the end.  I then started typing the next sentence with a lower case n.
I then placed the cursor directly over the first vertical line in the
n.  After I finished the word, the n changed to upper case and the first
vertical line moved to the right, so it was no longer under the cursor
and resulting space was wider.


I tried the same experiment. There was no change in position.

James, I wonder if your paragraph alignment was set to "justified." If 
so, the letters might move side to side as you continue to type the line.


Virgil

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[libreoffice-users] Bibliography entry system and word/character counting

2013-08-17 Thread Krunoslav Šebetić

Hi,

think that LO should have (a little bit) better bibliography entry 
system. Every thing works just fine, but I miss some features with thing 
I'm writing now.


When I do Insert - Indexes an tables - Bibliography entry I can insert 
entry from the document or from Bibliography database. Thing is that the 
reference system I use require shortening of textnotes:


Some text some text [author, year_of_publishing: page_of_citation], some 
text from the same author and the same book, just another page, so I 
should not enter authors name (short name from bibliography database), I 
should put word "ibid." instead [ibid: page].


Now I can't insert [ibid: page] as field or to relate it somehow with 
bibliography field inserted above. Since that kind of reference is not 
field, if I change something in my document, I need to hunt all these 
inserts and change it manually to [author, year: page] format because 
[ibid...] works only if the first reference before [ibid...] is from the 
same author and the same book.


Think that feature should be added to LO: Insert - Indexes and tables - 
Bibliography entry and the dialog box should have some additional 
fields: check box and empty text box. Now, I should be able to choose a 
bibliography entry from bibliography database, then chose that new check 
box and enter the word I wont to display in document. Chosen 
bibliography entry from dialog box should be related to the word from 
text box.


LO should connect [ibid:page] with [author, year: page] and display 
[ibid:page] only if right above Bibliography entry (as field) is the 
same one we connected earlier. If I change the document and remove above 
bibliography entry field, [ibid:page] should change to [author, year:page].


I'm forced to use [ibid: page] and I'm unable do it as fields - now I 
have to hunt down every manual [ibid:page] I make.


Is there way to do this?

Also, think it should not be a problem to add some additional 
information in the same place with word and character count. Think it 
would be nice if we had:


Words (characters) [cards] | 1249 (7568) [4,204]

Look here (well, I'm not writing in Serbian but idea of typography card 
stays the same):

http://www.proz.com/forum/money_matters/126748-equivalent_of_characters_including_spaces_in_words.html#1047157

Now I have to open KCalc over and over again. Think that should not be 
very complicate to add?


Kruno


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Subject: Digest of annou...@documentfoundation.org issue 145 (160)

2013-08-17 Thread Tom Davies





>
> From: "announce+h...@documentfoundation.org" 
> 
>To: tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 
>Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 17:22
>Subject: Subject: Digest of annou...@documentfoundation.org issue 145 (160)
> 
>
>Topics (messages 160 through 160):
>- [tdf-announce] Call for Papers extended until August 22
>-       160 - Florian Effenberger 
>- 
>Dear community,
>
>from September 24 to 27, this year's annual LibreOffice Conference takes 
>place in Milano, Italy. It is the major annual event for all LibreOffice 
>contributors, supporters, adopters and users, and will be jointly hosted 
>by the Milan University together with the LibreOffice community.
>
>We hereby announce that the Call for Papers will be extended until 
>August 22, and invite all of you to send in your talk proposals for the 
>conference.
>
>Whether you've been developing cool and exciting features, are using 
>LibreOffice in your corporation, or would like to talk about the 
>OpenDocument format ecosystem at large, send in your talk and present it 
>to a large and diverse audience at LibOCon 2013!
>
>All details to the CfP are available at 
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>
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[Solved] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOfficeCalc - secondary Y axis and getting desired data to appear in chart

2013-08-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Congrats on figuring it out and many thanks for posting the answer back to the 
list.  Hopefully when someone else needs the answer to this the archives might 
be more useful to answerers trying to help.  
Thanks and regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Jim Thompson 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Monday, 12 August 2013, 22:37
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOfficeCalc - secondary Y axis and 
>getting desired data to appear in chart
> 
>
>Never mind... got it figured out.
>
>Click on a line on the chart to make the Data Series dialog appear
>
>   -
>
>   Options – Align data series to
>    -
>
>      Primary Y axis … OR
>      -
>
>      Secondary Y axis
>
>The first trick was to make the DJI line appear, by fiddling with the
>Primary Y axis, then was able to align that data series with the Secondary
>Y axis. Was able to get the desired chart (also changed Line display for
>the DJI to make the chart easier to read).
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Jim
>
>
>On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Jim Thompson  wrote:
>
>> Greetings!
>>
>> Using LibreOffice Calc – 4.1.0.4
>>
>>
>>  Have a fairly simple spreadsheet (just data, no formulas)
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Column A – Date (e.g., 5.17 = May 17)
>>    -
>>
>>    Columns B thru E – percentages (range between -6 and +2)
>>    -
>>
>>    Column F – whole numbers (range between 1450 and 1600)
>>
>>
>>  Want to generate a chart (using wizard - and manual tweaking as needed)
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Chart type – Line – Points and lines (easy to read)
>>    -
>>
>>    First row as label + First column as label
>>
>>
>>  Note the initial results
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    DJI shows changes by date
>>    -
>>
>>    Other numbers (percentages) are so small they are scrunched into
>>    virtual invisibility
>>    -
>>
>>    OK – looks like we need 2 Y axes (one for percentages; one for DJI)
>>
>>
>>  Finish initial draft
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Title – Performance of JFT IRAs + joint account
>>    -
>>
>>    Subtitle – Compared to TRP benchmarks + DJI
>>    -
>>
>>    X axis – date
>>    -
>>
>>    Y axis – % lead
>>    -
>>
>>    Display legend – Bottom
>>
>>
>>  Change primary Y axis (to display percentages)
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    double click on Y Axis
>>    -
>>
>>    adjust Scale settings
>>    -
>>
>>    uncheck Automatic for first 3 settings
>>     -
>>
>>       Minimum -6
>>       -
>>
>>       Maximum 2
>>       -
>>
>>       Major interval 1
>>        -
>>
>>    we now see interesting chart for the 4 percentage columns (by date)
>>    -
>>
>>    (optional) drag chart to below data, pull bottom right corner to I,50
>>    (one page on my printer)
>>
>>
>>  Can we get DJI onto same chart by fiddling with Secondary Y axis?
>>
>>
>>  From menu bar
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    Insert – Axes
>>    -
>>
>>    Secondary axes – Y axis
>>
>>
>>  Change secondary Y axis (attempting to display DJI)
>>
>>    -
>>
>>    double click on Secondary Y axis
>>    -
>>
>>    adjust Scale settings
>>    -
>>
>>    uncheck Automatic for first 3 settings
>>     -
>>
>>       Minimum 14500
>>       -
>>
>>       Maximum 16000
>>       -
>>
>>       Major interval 300
>>
>>
>>  DJI line not shown. What else is required to display DJI data on same
>> chart?
>>
>> Attached should be 2 Calc spreadsheets...
>>
>> - jft_ira_performance_graph_data_DJI.ods (just the raw numbers)
>>
>> - jft_ira_performance_graph_0809_DJI.ods (with half-baked chart)
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any comments or suggestions.
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail merge manual field entry

2013-08-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I am not certain how to do this but it 'should' be fairly easy.  it probably 
isn't but it should be.  

I am not sure if it makes a difference but do you happen to know  the name of 
the back-end used by Salesforce?  Is it MySql?

There are some tutorials on using Base which might (or might not) help 
http://www.spoken-tutorial.org/list_videos?view=1&foss=LibreOffice-Suite-Base&language=English
also a handbook
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Handbook
and an FAQ
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq/Base

Hopefully someone on this list can either help directly or pinpoint more 
specific links found through the above or from elsewhere.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)  







>
> From: Carl Paulsen 
>To: "users@global.libreoffice.org"  
>Sent: Monday, 12 August 2013, 23:22
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail merge manual field entry
> 
>
>A related question, which may help me figure out what I need, is how 
>does one manually work through a mail merge?  I only see the wizard, but 
>what if I've already created a document and just want to change a few 
>fields?  I don't want to have to enter a wizard and work through the 
>entire thing just to edit that document.  That function might also allow 
>me to hand-enter field names for this merge document.
>
>Carl
>
>
>On 8/12/13 4:12 PM, Carl Paulsen wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I need to create a mail merge that will, I hope, be used with 
>> Salesforce for mail merge communications.  I need to create a document 
>> with manually entered merge fields where the source database has not 
>> (and probably can not - at least with my current skills) be registered 
>> with LibreOffice. Salesforce is a web-based database service that has 
>> strict limits on connections outside of web browsers.
>>
>> In short, what I'd like to do is create mailing labels, type in the 
>> merge fields as they need to be typed (to work with Salesforce), then 
>> save and upload the document.  I can't find any way to do this.  Is 
>> there a way?  Also, Salesforce provides some templates for the merges 
>> and I can see what I need to do, but the fields they provide in their 
>> templates are not relevant to what I need, and I can't replace their 
>> merge fields with the ones I do need.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
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>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
For some reason this post got blocked and had to be rescued by the moderators.  
I'm not sure what is going on and my email client doesn't make it easy to read 
much in the headers to find out.

I've not seen many other messages from Mark in the list of blocked messages.  
Apols and regards from 
Tom :)  





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> From: Mark's Google A/c 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013, 10:44
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail
> 
>
>I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the 
>mailing list over the last few weeks.
>
>After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything 
>wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other 
>people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?
>
>Mark Stanton
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Presentation slide does not show graphics visible in 'Normal'

2013-08-17 Thread v_2e
  Hello!

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 12:29:57 +0800
Uwe Dippel  wrote:

> I have prepared a large presentation, and I find that everything looks
> okay, except when I view it as 'slide show'. Then all images are
> gone. The same applies to conversion to PDF. There is no more image
> at all, neither.
> 
> Since I need to show it in a few days, I wonder what I could do? I
> have already tried to create a new presentation, and import the
> earlier one, but the result is the same. I have created a
> presentation from scratch, copied one of the slides from the earlier
> one, and still, this slide copied into the new presentation shows
> okay in Libreoffice; but void of the graphics in 'Slide Show' and
> void of any graphics in PDF.
> 
  Isn't your graphics in EPS format? Your problem is very similar to
what I had some time ago with EPS files, so if it is, I'd suggest you to
convert it to PNG, since the problems with vector graphics in latest
releases of LO Impress are frequent (see, for example, this bug:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62038 ), but there are
usually no problems with PNG.

  Regards,
Vladimir

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[libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-17 Thread Mark's Google A/c
I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the 
mailing list over the last few weeks.

After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything 
wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other 
people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?

Mark Stanton



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't find setting

2013-08-17 Thread Andrew Brown
To add to this discussion of readability of text, spacing and 
punctuation is only a small portion of it. In the read word punctuation 
taught us when to take a breath, as with a continuous sentence separated 
by a comma, and a long full breath after the period, plus a space.
Now even as we type to each other in this email, we are using a sans 
serif font (for those not understanding serif and sans serif, sans serif 
fonts have no "leading" lines on the edge of the character). Sans serif 
fonts create a much harder font to read.


It has been found that a serif font with normal punctuation and spacing 
leads the eye to faster reading as opposed to sans serif. Man tests have 
been done with this. So the article written in the provided link, is 
found to be hard to read as it is a sans serif font used.


Regards

Andrew Brown

On 16/08/2013 11:08 PM, James Knott wrote:

Michael wrote:

1)  Although the article was difficult to read, I think it would have
been easier on the eyes (mine, anyway) if there was more space between
the sentences.

This is my point exactly.  When there's extra space between sentences,
it's a lot easier to isolate the sentence from the surrounding text.
You have to look for the period, which may be more difficult to see,
depending on the letter it follows.  For example a period following a
"k" is harder to discern than one following a "o".  This means the
reader has to do extra work, while the eye is naturally equipped to
recognize the extra space.  So, the choice is search for the sentence or
automagically recognize it.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO WRITER BASIC: insert an image, put a drawing-text on top and jump to next page

2013-08-17 Thread Alain Van Utterbeeck

Hello Andrew,

Thanks for your reply. I'll take a look at your examples and will let 
you know if I succeeded.
Just for your info I include my complete macro so you can take a look at 
what I'm doing.
It's not completely working but most parts work, I can generate my 
complete document with TOC and save it.

The database is a Postgresql-database that I registered in OO-base.

REM  *  BASIC  *
dim sale_order_name as String
dim offerte as Object
dim DataBaseContext as Object
dim DataSource as Object
dim DBcon as Object
dim DBcon2 as Object
dim DBcon3 as Object
dim DBcon4 as Object
dim DBsql as Object
dim DBsql2 as Object
dim DBsql3 as Object
dim DBsql4 as Object
dim DBsql5 as Object
dim sale_order as Object
dim sale_order_id as Integer
Dim chapters as Object
Dim checklist as Object
Dim products as Object
Dim sale_order_type as Object
Dim sale_order_lines as Object
Dim Dummy()
Dim url as String
Dim Cursor as Object
Dim dispatcher as Object
Dim level as Integer
DimmDoc as Object
DimmCurs as Object
Dim oIndex as Object

Sub Main
x=open_db()
sale_order_name = inputbox("Geef offertenr aub","Offerte")
DBsql=DBcon.createStatement()
DBsql2=DBcon.createStatement()
DBsql3=DBcon.createStatement()
DBsql4=DBcon.createStatement()
DBsql5=DBcon.createStatement()
sale_order=DBsql.executeQuery("SELECT id, type_id, 
project_description, checklist_id FROM sale_order WHERE name='" + 
sale_order_name + "'"

If Not Isnull(sale_order) Then
While sale_order.next
x=aanmaken_offerte()
sale_order_id=sale_order.getInt(1)
type_id=sale_order.getInt(2)
chapters=DBsql2.executeQuery("SELECT title, image_url, 
description, level1_seq, chp_level, lines, checklist, products FROM 
sale_order_chapter WHERE " + _
"type_id = " + type_id + " 
ORDER BY seq_nbr")
sale_order_type=DBsql3.executeQuery("SELECT image_url FROM 
sale_order_type WHERE " + _

"id = " + type_id)
document   = ThisComponent.CurrentController.Frame
dispatcher = 
createUnoService("com.sun.star.frame.DispatchHelper")

mDoc = ThisComponent
mCurs = mDoc.currentController.getViewCursor()
dim args4(3) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue
While sale_order_type.next
args4(0).Name = "FileName"
args4(0).Value = sale_order_type.getString(1)
args4(1).Name = "FilterName"
args4(1).Value = ""
args4(2).Name = "AsLink"
args4(2).Value = false
args4(3).Name = "Style"
args4(3).Value = "Afbeeldingen"
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, 
".uno:InsertGraphic", "", 0, args4())
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, 
".uno:SetAnchorToPara", "", 0, Array())
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, 
".uno:InsertLinebreak", "", 0, Array())
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, 
".uno:InsertPagebreak", "", 0, Array())

Wend
mCurs = mDoc.currentController.getViewCursor()
oIndex = 
ThisComponent.CreateInstance("com.sun.star.text.ContentIndex")

oIndex.CreateFromOutline = True
ThisComponent.getText().insertTextContent(mCurs, oIndex, False)
dim args1(0) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue
dim args2(1) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue
dim args3(2) as new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue
level=0
While chapters.next
if chapters.getInt(4) > level then
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, 
".uno:InsertPagebreak", "", 0, Array())

end if
level=chapters.getInt(4)
if chapters.getInt(5) = 1 then
args2(0).Name = "Template"
args2(0).Value = "Kop 1"
args2(1).Name = "Family"
args2(1).Value = 2
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, 
".uno:StyleApply", "", 0, args2())

else
args2(0).Name = "Template"
args2(0).Value = "Kop 3"
args2(1).Name = "Family"
args2(1).Value = 2
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, 
".uno:StyleApply", "", 0, args2())

end if
args1(0).Name = "Text"
args1(0).Value = chapters.getString(1)
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:InsertText", 
"", 0, args1())
dispatcher.executeDispatch(document, ".uno:InsertPara", 
"", 0, Array())

args2(0).Name = "Template"
args2(0).Value = "Tekstblok"
args2(1).Name = "Family"
args2(1).Value = 2

if chapters.getBoolean(6) then