Re: [libreoffice-users] Failure to Download the new Libreoffice
Hi, this list doesn't accept attachments. You can attach a file though by going to http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Users-f1639498.html where you will see this message! Cheers On 01/11/13 15:39, Cassandra Torres wrote: Hello I have recently learned about your product and would really like to try it out. Problem is I seem to be having problems downloading the software. I have a Gateway Desktop with the new Windows 8.1 update. Attached is a picture of the error box that appears when I try to download the product. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OSX Mavericks upgrade prevents LO from opening because of lack of java
On 10/31/2013 05:02 PM, Marc Grober wrote: It looks like the thread on addressing operating LO 4 under OSX Mavericks may have taken a small detour. Yes, Java is a bit of a disaster on OSX, and yes once you upgrade Apple blows away your java install so you have to start all over (but will prompt you to install their java.) Assuming you accept their invitation on reboot (the install will invite you to install an Apple Java jre) and then try to run LO (4.1.2.3) you Does the OS X upgrade itself indeed mention the possibility to download an Apple JRE? I never noticed that. will likely get an error message that allows you to either install a java (the install does not say what it is installing, nor from where) or quits. What I know is the following: After upgrade or fresh install of OS X (at least since 10.7, IIRC), a java executable is installed that is merely a stub, bringing up a dialog inviting you to download and install the real Apple JRE 6. When LO is run on such a stub-only machine, as soon as it tries to detect a JRE (which might be rather sooner than expected, see the LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) thread on this mailing list), it will run the stub java executable and thus trigger the dialog. Now, for some it reportedly works fine to download and install the Apple JRE via the dialog and continue working with LO (or even not download and install it, and keep living with LO nagging you about a missing JRE). But for some LO reportedly keeps crashing from that dialog onwards, no matter how they interact with that dialog. But I only know about that from here-say, and have never seen the problem myself, and never seen a backtrace of the crashing LO that could give us a clue what's going on there. (I wasted my opportunity to find out for myself when soon after upgrading to OS X 10.9 I got confronted with the java stub dialog outside the LO context and downloaded/installed it before I came around to start LO.) But since, as described in the LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) thread on this mailing list, one unexpected side-effect of bundling the Wiki Publisher extension with LO on Mac OS X is that LO tries to detect a JRE as soon as you type a key in Writer, we decided to deliver LO 4.1.3 for Mac OS X (from http://www.libreoffice.org/download) without a bundled Wiki Publisher extension. That should help to somewhat mitigate the problem and have less people be annoyed by the problem. Stephan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OSX Maverick, Java, LO 4.1.2.3
On 10/31/2013 05:44 PM, Marc Grober wrote: I said to myself, go ahead and let LO download something what could get worse? Well, now, instead of popping and telling me (inaccurately) that I didn't have java, it just crashes. So, is there a procedure to resolve this mess? See my responses to the LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) and OSX Mavericks upgrade prevents LO from opening because of lack of java threads on this mailing list for details. And note that, at least technically, it is not LO that displays the dialog inviting you to download and install Apple's JRE, so there's little we can do from the LO side without knowing why it keeps crashing for some. When LO crashes for you, does it silently go away, or does it come back with LO's crash dialog (where it asks you to continue and recover any documents that had been open, if any), or does the generic OS X crash dialog (with Ignore, Reopen, Report buttons, IIRC) come up? If the latter (the generic dialog), that would be great, because if you can still reproduce the crash, it would be helpful if you click Report and paste all the data here. Stephan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks)
On 10/31/2013 06:41 PM, Marc Grober wrote: I have rebooted and the crash on opening (the result of letting LO try to install java from software update on 10.9) of LO 4.1.2.3 has stopped. LO is now back to prompting for java (there is no access to LO itself) Tried saying yes to LO's java install via Software Update again -- this time it results in no change in behavior Am I correct here in concluding that neither Apple nor Oracle offer a 32 bit java for Mavericks and that as a result users who have updated to Mavericks will simply be barred from using LO henceforth until some unspecified time in the future? No. The Apple-provided JRE 6 supports both 32 and 64 bit. Anyone know of an office suite that works with Mavericks, lol Note that there are cases where LO works on Mavericks just fine. There are other cases where it reportedly doesn't, but without more specific data it is hard to tell why (at lest for somebody who never was able to reproduce the problem). if the problem is only in extensions, can one use the command line unopkg to lost and delete the extension causing the problem? Quoting what I wrote in the LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) thread on this mailing list: So, one quick fix for people who are stuck with Writer keeping crashing would probably be to move away the wiki-publisher extension that is bundled in the LibreOffice installation. To do that in Finder, first make sure LibreOffice is not running, then navigate to the LibreOffice (aka LibreOffice.app) application, from the right-click menu select 'Show Package Contents', there navigate from 'Contents' to 'share' to 'extensions' and move the 'wiki-publisher' folder to the trash (or move it to some other place outside the 'extensions' folder). Then create a new folder (with more or less arbitrary name, you can use 'Dummy') within the 'extensions' folder. When you start LibreOffice again, the problem should be gone (it might show a 'LibreOffice quit unexpectedly' dialog once directly while starting, which is an unrelated problem and a different story, in which case just press the 'Reopen' button). Stephan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks)
On 10/25/2013 08:59 AM, Stephan Bergmann wrote: On 10/24/2013 05:18 PM, sberg wrote: I assume you have installed some LibreOffice extension for spell/grammar checking or similar that uses Java. That might explain it if you experience crashes now when typing in Writer after upgrading to Mavericks (which appears to replace any pre-existing Java installation with a download it now stub). Can you provide a list of LibreOffice extensions you have installed (Tools - Extension Manager...)? Meanwhile found out that it is the wiki-publisher extension (which comes bundled with LibreOffice by default) that requires a Java VM to be instantiated in the LibreOffice process as soon as you type the first letter in Writer. (See http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2013-October/056991.html Why typing in Writer instantiates the JVM on Mac OS X for details.) So, one quick fix for people who are stuck with Writer keeping crashing would probably be to move away the wiki-publisher extension that is bundled in the LibreOffice installation. To do that in Finder, first make sure LibreOffice is not running, then navigate to the LibreOffice (aka LibreOffice.app) application, from the right-click menu select Show Package Contents, there navigate from Contents to share to extensions and move the wiki-publisher folder to the trash (or move it to some other place outside the extensions folder). Then create a new folder (with more or less arbitrary name, you can use Dummy) within the extensions folder. When you start LibreOffice again, the problem should be gone (it might show a LibreOffice quit unexpectedly dialog once directly while starting, which is an unrelated problem and a different story, in which case just press the Reopen button). Note that LO 4.1.3 for Mac OS X from http://www.libreoffice.org/download comes without a bundled Wiki Publisher extension. Stephan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Are there solutions for starting LO 4.1.2.3 without java on OSX 10.9 where OSX upgrade as been done on LO with JVM selected
On 10/31/2013 09:56 PM, Marc Grober wrote: [...] Marc, can you please stick to a single thread on this mailing list on the topic of LO+Java+Mavericks? Stephan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project
Hello everyone, Thank you for choosing and using LibreOffice! My name is Charles-H. Schulz and I'm one of the co-founders of the Document Foundation. Many people who contribute to the LibreOffice project discussed the need for us to understand how we could enroll regular users (whatever that means) to the LibreOffice project. You obviously know that LibreOffice is Free Software and that it comes with rights and freedoms for you. But besides that LibreOffice is a software development project populated by a community of people who contribute their time and skills (and many skills are required, not just the technical ones!) on a volunteer or on a paid basis. But when we come to think of it, these people started somewhere, one day, to contribute, and while they all have their own reasons, we (the people in charge of marketing) thought that everybody has the ability to contribute. The question is: how can we make it 1)interesting 2) accessible 3)easy to understand what the various tasks are 4)possible to spread the word about it? ... And this is where you come in the picture. We worked on a short survey that's anonymous (we don't require your name nor your email) and we would really like it if you could take a few minutes of your time to answer these questions. As you will see they are all about understanding how we could include users of LibreOffice and turn them into contributors. The survey is here: https://survey.documentfoundation.org/index.php/574531/lang-en We hope you're having a great time and thank you again for using LibreOffice! Best regards, -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-founder, The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Weird font? problem.
Hi, since a couple of weeks I've been experiencing some problems (I think are) related to fonts in LibreOffice, as you can see in the attached screenshot, most menus aren't showing, as well as cell names. I don't know if this is a LibreOffice related problem or something related to my O.S. configuration. I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 - XFCE 4.10 - LibreOffice 4.1.2.3 Regards, -- Leonardo M. Ramé Medical IT - Griensu S.A. Av. Colón 636 - Piso 8 Of. A X5000EPT -- Córdoba Tel.: +54(351)4246924 +54(351)4247788 +54(351)4247979 int. 19 Cel.: +54 9 351 6629292 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Missing Hyphens in pdf Export (PDF/A-1a only)
Thanks, Mirosław. I downloaded LibreOffice into a Windows installation I had running under Oracle's VirtualBox and, sure enough, the output pdf contained the hyphens under all conditions. This seems like really strange behavior; I'd be very curious to know what coding error could cause such a limited and precise symptom. For the moment, however, this solves my problem. Is there a way I can find out when (or in what release) that will be corrected, as it is important to me. Again, thanks for the quick response. Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Missing-Hyphens-in-pdf-Export-PDF-A-1a-only-tp4080646p4080806.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Failure to Download the new Libreoffice
Hi Cassandra: Please check my posting dated June 26, 2013 and titled Can't locate LibreOffice 4.04 for some comments, and other download links that may work for you. If you could confirm that the error message you received is the same as the one I describe, perhaps that might help someone resolve the issue as none of the LO folks seemed to be able to duplicate the problem. As far as I can tell, this problem has been around for quite a while (since about the introduction of v4 which I think is the first time I encountered it). I have been unable to load LibeOffice from any of the official sites since then, either under Windows or Linux (as it happens, I just downloaded a recent version for Windows this morning and still got the same error message, so went to an alternative site). If any other users have run into this, it might also help if you reported it. Since the late 1970s, I've used probably every word processor known to man, including the early stand-alone machines as well as several proprietary ones, so I can state with some confidence that, although there are in fact some bugs in LibreOffice, I find it much more useful and much less annoying than products like Microsoft Word, so I would say it's worth whatever hassles you need to go through to get it running. It's also able to read and write Word documents (well, at least all but the most complex ones), so you don't have to worry about compatibility issues with your co-workers. Hope this helps ... Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Failure-to-Download-the-new-Libreoffice-tp4080683p4080810.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks)
Mavericks Apple Java WAS installed on my machine before LO was invoked, so it was not simply a matter of Java not being on the machine at the time of the invocation if Apple supplies as before 32 and 64 bit Java. How did anyone at LO argue that LO would work under Mavericks if using a JVM crashes LO? Under what circumstances will LO NOT crash if Use JVM is selected prior to upgrade? And if the devs knew that Mavericks would cause LO to crash over a week ago, why wasn't that published clearly? In my case Java was repeatedly installed after the LO problem, with no impact on LO LO blew up even if one started the product by opening a calc file; one did not have to open write and enter any keystrokes -- by blew up I mean that the app simply disappears and generates no crash or error report. It does so starting from command line or gui -- in any event my case indicates that the problem IS NOT limited to entering text It will still crash any time you access Zotero, though I now have it stable enough that I can otherwise use it so, at present, Zotero plugin will not work with LO because Zotero, no matter the java supplied to the OS, will not recognize it. I started a new thread because the existing one seemed to be slipping sideways :-) On 11/1/13, 1:24 AM, Stephan Bergmann wrote: On 10/25/2013 08:59 AM, Stephan Bergmann wrote: On 10/24/2013 05:18 PM, sberg wrote: I assume you have installed some LibreOffice extension for spell/grammar checking or similar that uses Java. That might explain it if you experience crashes now when typing in Writer after upgrading to Mavericks (which appears to replace any pre-existing Java installation with a download it now stub). Can you provide a list of LibreOffice extensions you have installed (Tools - Extension Manager...)? Meanwhile found out that it is the wiki-publisher extension (which comes bundled with LibreOffice by default) that requires a Java VM to be instantiated in the LibreOffice process as soon as you type the first letter in Writer. (See http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2013-October/056991.html Why typing in Writer instantiates the JVM on Mac OS X for details.) So, one quick fix for people who are stuck with Writer keeping crashing would probably be to move away the wiki-publisher extension that is bundled in the LibreOffice installation. To do that in Finder, first make sure LibreOffice is not running, then navigate to the LibreOffice (aka LibreOffice.app) application, from the right-click menu select Show Package Contents, there navigate from Contents to share to extensions and move the wiki-publisher folder to the trash (or move it to some other place outside the extensions folder). Then create a new folder (with more or less arbitrary name, you can use Dummy) within the extensions folder. When you start LibreOffice again, the problem should be gone (it might show a LibreOffice quit unexpectedly dialog once directly while starting, which is an unrelated problem and a different story, in which case just press the Reopen button). Note that LO 4.1.3 for Mac OS X from http://www.libreoffice.org/download comes without a bundled Wiki Publisher extension. Stephan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Failure to Download the new Libreoffice
For what it's worth ... Just as a follow-up, I just went to the main download site for my version (64-bit Ubuntu Linux), which is http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?version=4.1.3lang=en-UStype=deb-x86_64 When selecting the Main Installer 196 MB (Torrent) option, I receive a page containing the following: === Page: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.3/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.1.3_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.torrent === HTTP ERROR: 504 Gateway Timeout RequestURI=http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.3/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.1.3_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.torrent ===End Page When selecting the Main Installer 196 MB (Info) option, I receive a page containing the following: ===Begin Page HTTP ERROR: 504 Gateway Timeout RequestURI=http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.3/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.1.3_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.mirrorlist ===End Page This is essentially the behavior I have experienced at least since the release of version 4. I experienced the same thing earlier this morning when attempting to download a Windows version (in Oracle's VirtualBox), and the same behavior is present when choosing the LibreOffice built-in help downloads. I hope this helps someone figure out what the issue is Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Failure-to-Download-the-new-Libreoffice-tp4080683p4080815.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OSX Mavericks upgrade prevents LO from opening because of lack of java
The upgrade does indeed present an opportunity to install apple java before invoking any of the apps. Having had prior experiencne with the Apple Java fiasco and took the OS up on its offer, lol. Unfortunately it looks like that install doesn't necessarily take (while I am sure the software is installed, my guess is that there are environmental variables that are not being fully set until some conjunction of the planets or the like I did find a clue in that There are other apps it would appear that are suffering the same problems (not acknowledging the presence of the Apple JRE.) I have rebooted and reinstalled the Apple Java a number of times, and have finally been able to get it to take (though installation was exactly the same as prior instances and rebooting was not required.) I can tell you that I had to invoke a different app that demanded apple java that would not crash, and having installed Apple java (a 5th time) in response to that apps prompt, it took. Then, on pulling up LO and looking at the JVM dialog, one could see the Apple JRE in the selector box (first time a java version appeared there since the upgrade.) This may also suggest that this problem may be a result of Apple changing locations of the JRE (that is apparently what broke Macports) but I am just guessing there. Apple did rip out all Java (1.6 AND Oracle 1.7) on upgrade, and I am wondering about LO's response where it is required to use a JVM, but can't find it -- in other words, why didn't LO (or other apps for that matter) see the Apple 1.6 JRE when initially installed when prompted by the OS, even after reboot. This smacks very much of the same kind of Java issues I saw on MountainLion. Eventually one could get Java 1.7 running along side Java 1.6, the latter being used for general OS invocation while the former could be used via CLI and for browsers... At present I now have LO running as it has found Apple Java 1.6 LO needs to make the jump so that it can use 1.7 or make it clear that LO will be java-free by version 4.x or some such but I think the latter would be potentially unfortunate On 11/1/13, 1:07 AM, Stephan Bergmann wrote: On 10/31/2013 05:02 PM, Marc Grober wrote: It looks like the thread on addressing operating LO 4 under OSX Mavericks may have taken a small detour. Yes, Java is a bit of a disaster on OSX, and yes once you upgrade Apple blows away your java install so you have to start all over (but will prompt you to install their java.) Assuming you accept their invitation on reboot (the install will invite you to install an Apple Java jre) and then try to run LO (4.1.2.3) you Does the OS X upgrade itself indeed mention the possibility to download an Apple JRE? I never noticed that. will likely get an error message that allows you to either install a java (the install does not say what it is installing, nor from where) or quits. What I know is the following: After upgrade or fresh install of OS X (at least since 10.7, IIRC), a java executable is installed that is merely a stub, bringing up a dialog inviting you to download and install the real Apple JRE 6. When LO is run on such a stub-only machine, as soon as it tries to detect a JRE (which might be rather sooner than expected, see the LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) thread on this mailing list), it will run the stub java executable and thus trigger the dialog. Now, for some it reportedly works fine to download and install the Apple JRE via the dialog and continue working with LO (or even not download and install it, and keep living with LO nagging you about a missing JRE). But for some LO reportedly keeps crashing from that dialog onwards, no matter how they interact with that dialog. But I only know about that from here-say, and have never seen the problem myself, and never seen a backtrace of the crashing LO that could give us a clue what's going on there. (I wasted my opportunity to find out for myself when soon after upgrading to OS X 10.9 I got confronted with the java stub dialog outside the LO context and downloaded/installed it before I came around to start LO.) But since, as described in the LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks) thread on this mailing list, one unexpected side-effect of bundling the Wiki Publisher extension with LO on Mac OS X is that LO tries to detect a JRE as soon as you type a key in Writer, we decided to deliver LO 4.1.3 for Mac OS X (from http://www.libreoffice.org/download) without a bundled Wiki Publisher extension. That should help to somewhat mitigate the problem and have less people be annoyed by the problem. Stephan -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to
[libreoffice-users] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria
Pessoal, Precisamos ter um posicionamento sobre isso: A Microsoft assinou um termo de cooperação com o Estado de São Paulo que vai dar acesso gratuito aos pacotes Office para os cerca de 4,3 milhões de alunos matriculados na rede estadual de ensino, informou o secretário da Educação, Herman Voorwald. O acordo, anunciado na quinta-feira (31) pelo secretário e o presidente da empresa americana no Brasil, Mariano de Beer, tem o objetivo de disponibilizar conteúdos digitais sem custo para capacitar os alunos das escolas estaduais. Os estudantes terão acesso ao Office 365 ProPlus, que custaria R$ 24 mensais. A parceria complementa as ações focadas em disponibilizar ferramentas digitais atreladas ao currículo dos alunos, disse Voorwald. Segundo a Secretaria de Educação, a parceria irá articular alguns outros projetos da capital paulista como o Acessa Escola, que é um programa de inclusão digital e de acesso livre à internet nas escolas, e a Evesphttp://www.educacao.sp.gov.br/evesp/cursos/(Escola Virtual de São Paulo), que disponibiliza plataformas digitais com cursos de idiomas e preparatórios on-line. Milton Michida - 26.mar.13/Divulgação [image: Professora Beatriz de Oliveira Fortes dá aula na rede estadual na capital paulista] Professora Beatriz de Oliveira Fortes em aula com computadores na rede estadual na capital paulista No entanto, segundo o especialista em software livre e professor Edson Silva, o governo do estado está vendendo o serviço à Microsoft, porque a parceria é uma forma de forçar o uso do software privado, porque os programas da empresa americana são mais fáceis de piratear, explicou à Efe. Para o professor, o software livre proporciona mais liberdade de acesso, mesmo tendo uma interface de interação mais difícil de usar do que o da Microsoft. Não se deve viciar em uma forma de organização de janelas, pasta do desktop, e o Windows faz isso. Isso amarra as pessoas profissionalmente, elas devem ter liberdade para escolher o tipo de tecnologia irão utilizar no dia a dia, já que a lógica da programação é a mesma, afirmou Silva. O professor ainda destaca que o software livre é uma opção de investimento que tem custo, mas garante essa liberdade de interação com a tecnologia e a diminuição da pirataria comum ao campo da computação. Se a empresa libera gratuitamente os programas do pacote Office é uma maneira de tornar os alunos dependentes dessa corporação, e os governos devem ajudar nessa mudança de comportamento cultural, incentivando o não pagamento de altas licenças de programas, ressaltou o especialista. fonte: Folha de S. Paulo http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/tec/2013/11/1365358-estudantes-de-sp-terao-office-gratuito-para-ate-5-pcs-apos-parceria-com-microsoft.shtml http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/tec/2013/11/1365358-estudantes-de-sp-terao-office-gratuito-para-ate-5-pcs-apos-parceria-com-microsoft.shtml Abraços, Furusho, Vitorio https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Furusho Fone: +55 41 9977-3947 Twitter, Facebook, Gtalk, Skype: vfurusho Free Software Furusho http://softwarelivre.org/furusho http://softwarelivre.org/furusho/The Journal of IT and Innovationhttp://paper.li/vfurusho LibreOffice http://pt-br.libreoffice.org/ Free Software Foundation http://www.fsf.org/ The Document Foundationhttp://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/members/ http://pt-br.libreoffice.org/sobre-nos/Associação Software Livrehttp://softwarelivre.org/ http://www.odfalliance.org/blog/index.php/site/odf_alliance_awards/Comunidade LibreOffice Brasil http://pt-br.libreoffice.org/sobre-nos/ Currículum Vitae http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Furusho -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria
And that is great, as Microsoft Office is designed not by copycats, but for people who actually know what the Office is for. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Unwanted chars in help
In my copy of the LO 4.1.2.3 Help (Norwegian, nynorsk) there are some
unwanted characters in the headwords list. Example: redigera - X{ �J
(redigera = edit).
I think the reason for these errors could be some missing closing tags
somewhere in the po files. Something like
bookmark_valueredigerabookmark_value (missing / ) perhaps.
Where do I start hunting and what should I've been looking for?
As I am a translator of these files, I could very well have done these
mistakes myself, but it does not help me anyway. Btw: I have seen these
errors in other translations than Norwegian nynorsk too.
Perhaps not the right place posting this, but I did not found a
translators or a documenters forum. Someone knows?
Kolbjoern Stuestoel
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted chars in help
Usually when these 'strange characters' appear it's due to quotation
marks (single or double) or bold face type or or some other thing which
does not computer-translate to whatever program the viewer has -
MsFt is ripe with adding special effects which aren't
compatible with anyone else ;-(
If you wish to see what is being hidden (?) in these 'strange
characters' send the document/e-mail/ ... whatever to a machine with MsFt's
latest program -
as one of these mini-handhelds ... ... ...
Good luck to you [I use to know this term in the Nordic language;
sorry, it eludes me for the moment]
From: Kolbjørn Stuestøl kolbjo...@stuestoel.no
Date: Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Unwanted chars in help
To: LibreOffice brukargruppe users@global.libreoffice.org
In my copy of the LO 4.1.2.3 Help (Norwegian, nynorsk) there are some
unwanted characters in the headwords list. Example: redigera - X{ �J
(redigera = edit).
I think the reason for these errors could be some missing closing tags
somewhere in the po files. Something like
bookmark_valueredigera**bookmark_value
(missing / ) perhaps.
Where do I start hunting and what should I've been looking for?
As I am a translator of these files, I could very well have done these
mistakes myself, but it does not help me anyway. Btw: I have seen these
errors in other translations than Norwegian nynorsk too.
Perhaps not the right place posting this, but I did not found a translators
or a documenters forum. Someone knows?
Kolbjoern Stuestoel
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Missing Hyphens in pdf Export (PDF/A-1a only)
Dnia 2013-11-01, o godz. 07:30:20 CVAlkan fobe...@enteract.com napisał(a): This seems like really strange behavior; I'd be very curious to know what coding error could cause such a limited and precise symptom. As bibisect report showed up, bug was introduced between snapshot 3def5194ddaf9c4d766b71527874bd1a973b43e5 and snapshot 9a7603187eb5cc580d33212ee147f9ac89de55f4. If you can read code, you can take a look at differences between these two and figure it out: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/diff/?id=9a7603187eb5cc580d33212ee147f9ac89de55f4id2=3def5194ddaf9c4d766b71527874bd1a973b43e5 For the moment, however, this solves my problem. Is there a way I can find out when (or in what release) that will be corrected, as it is important to me. If you are registered at bugzilla, then go to bug page and in upper right corner you will find checkbox right next to Add me to CC list. Mark that box and hit Save changes above. You will then get e-mail about each change in bug; also when it get fixed. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project
On 11/1/13 7:04 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello everyone, Thank you for choosing and using LibreOffice! My name is Charles-H. Schulz and I'm one of the co-founders of the Document Foundation. Many people who contribute to the LibreOffice project discussed the need for us to understand how we could enroll regular users (whatever that means) to the LibreOffice project. You obviously know that LibreOffice is Free Software and that it comes with rights and freedoms for you. But besides that LibreOffice is a software development project populated by a community of people who contribute their time and skills (and many skills are required, not just the technical ones!) on a volunteer or on a paid basis. But when we come to think of it, these people started somewhere, one day, to contribute, and while they all have their own reasons, we (the people in charge of marketing) thought that everybody has the ability to contribute. The question is: how can we make it 1)interesting 2) accessible 3)easy to understand what the various tasks are 4)possible to spread the word about it? ... And this is where you come in the picture. We worked on a short survey that's anonymous (we don't require your name nor your email) and we would really like it if you could take a few minutes of your time to answer these questions. As you will see they are all about understanding how we could include users of LibreOffice and turn them into contributors. The survey is here: https://survey.documentfoundation.org/index.php/574531/lang-en We hope you're having a great time and thank you again for using LibreOffice! Best regards, I went to do the survey, didn't complete it. From going through the pages, too many places didn't allow me to provide feedback on my interests as well as concerns before becoming involved. On a couple of pages, I would like to have selected more than one. IMO, surveys such as this are essentially slanted, and could give you the answers you want to hear, not the ones you should hear. Lastly, after clicking the Exit and Clear survey button, in the following window, the close this window button did not work, even in Safe Mode for Firefox. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 24.0 Thunderbird 17.0.8 LibreOffice 4.1.2.3 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [Sócios-ASL]RES: Governo de SP e MS fornecem office 365 para estudantes
Pessoal, Chega de blá blá blá... *Vamos Pra Rua!* O que a M$ está fazendo é aliciamento de menores e o Governo sabe disso. A primeira dose é grátis e depois come até a alma. Abraços, Furusho, Vitorio https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Furusho Fone: +55 41 9977-3947 Twitter, Facebook, Gtalk, Skype: vfurusho Free Software Furusho http://softwarelivre.org/furusho http://softwarelivre.org/furusho/The Journal of IT and Innovationhttp://paper.li/vfurusho LibreOffice http://pt-br.libreoffice.org/ Free Software Foundation http://www.fsf.org/ The Document Foundationhttp://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/members/ http://pt-br.libreoffice.org/sobre-nos/Associação Software Livrehttp://softwarelivre.org/ http://www.odfalliance.org/blog/index.php/site/odf_alliance_awards/Comunidade LibreOffice Brasil http://pt-br.libreoffice.org/sobre-nos/ Currículum Vitae http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Furusho Em 1 de novembro de 2013 15:53, João Fernando joaoferna...@espiritolivre.org escreveu: Creio que uma nota de repúdio soa bem nesse momento. Em 1 de novembro de 2013 15:49, Mariel Zasso mariel.za...@gmail.comescreveu: O que vocês sugerem? Nota de repúdio? Mariel Zasso Em 1 de novembro de 2013 15:40, Eustaquio Guimaraes eustaquio.guimar...@gmail.com escreveu: Lobby de mais, lobby de menos. Apenas interesses. Infelizmente... ... errados, chulos, errôneos -- Eustáquio Mendes Guimarães Analista de sistemas / Especialista em Software Livre www.guimaraes.pro.br twitter.com/mendesbsb facebook.com/mendesbsb - http://qr.ai/qefsu --- (o_ Ser Livre ... //\ É uma Opção V_/_ Ubuntu Counter Project - #4046 -- Em 1 de novembro de 2013 14:14, Ronald Emerson Scherolt da Costa ronald.co...@presidencia.gov.br escreveu: Pessoal, Continuamos vendo iniciativas sempre na contra-mão de todos os acontecimentos... Até quando? Ronald Secretaria-Geral da Presidência da República Ronald Emerson Scherolt da Costa Assessor Técnico Coordenação-Geral de Novas Mídias e Outras Linguagens de Participação Departamento de Participação Social (DPS) Secretaria Nacional de Articulação Social (SNAS) Fax: 55 61 3226 4673 Fone: 55 61 3411 4320 ronald.co...@presidencia.gov.br -Mensagem original- De: socios-asl-boun...@listas.softwarelivre.org [mailto: socios-asl-boun...@listas.softwarelivre.org] Em nome de de...@softwarelivre.org Enviada em: sexta-feira, 1 de novembro de 2013 12:22 Para: socios-...@listas.softwarelivre.org Assunto: [Sócios-ASL] Governo de SP e MS fornecem office 365 para estudantes Pessoal, Acho que ASL precisa se posicionar sobre este absurdo. http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/tec/2013/11/1365358-estudantes-de-sp-terao-office-gratuito-para-ate-5-pcs-apos-parceria-com-microsoft.shtml Deivi -- ASL.Org - Associacao SoftwareLivre.Org ___ Socios-ASL mailing list socios-...@listas.softwarelivre.org http://listas.softwarelivre.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/socios-asl ___ Socios-ASL mailing list socios-...@listas.softwarelivre.org http://listas.softwarelivre.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/socios-asl ___ Socios-ASL mailing list socios-...@listas.softwarelivre.org http://listas.softwarelivre.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/socios-asl ___ Socios-ASL mailing list socios-...@listas.softwarelivre.org http://listas.softwarelivre.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/socios-asl -- _ °v° João Fernando Costa Júnior /(_)\ Comunidade LibreOffice do ES / Iniciativa Espírito Livre / Equipe Bestlinux ^ ^ GNU/Linux User #422133 | Ubuntu User #16167 ___ Socios-ASL mailing list socios-...@listas.softwarelivre.org http://listas.softwarelivre.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/socios-asl -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Failure to Download the new Libreoffice
CVAlkin, Running Slackware Linux 14.0 (K3.2.29) and using Firefox 17.0.8. I just got on to the Libreoffice.org website and downloaded both the main and helppack RPM tarballs for v4.1.3 with no problem. I notice that they added torrent options. Are you sure you are not clicking on the torrent link, which requires bittorrant to download. I don't know what your browser may do with a .torrent file rather than an http file. There are 3 links in each of the download blocks. Make sure you are clicking on the top line, which is the RPM tarball link, not the torrent or Info links on the second line. HTTP ERROR 504: http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E504.html Note that I understand some Internet Service Providers (ISPs) hinder or prevent bittorrant files. Maybe yours does. I suggest trying the regular tarball, not the torrant file and see what it does for you. HTH. Girvin Herr On 11/01/2013 08:23 AM, CVAlkan wrote: For what it's worth ... Just as a follow-up, I just went to the main download site for my version (64-bit Ubuntu Linux), which is http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?version=4.1.3lang=en-UStype=deb-x86_64 When selecting the Main Installer 196 MB (Torrent) option, I receive a page containing the following: === Page: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.3/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.1.3_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.torrent === HTTP ERROR: 504 Gateway Timeout RequestURI=http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.3/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.1.3_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.torrent ===End Page When selecting the Main Installer 196 MB (Info) option, I receive a page containing the following: ===Begin Page HTTP ERROR: 504 Gateway Timeout RequestURI=http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.3/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.1.3_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.mirrorlist ===End Page This is essentially the behavior I have experienced at least since the release of version 4. I experienced the same thing earlier this morning when attempting to download a Windows version (in Oracle's VirtualBox), and the same behavior is present when choosing the LibreOffice built-in help downloads. I hope this helps someone figure out what the issue is Frank -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Failure-to-Download-the-new-Libreoffice-tp4080683p4080815.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Failure to Download the new Libreoffice
Hi Girvin: Thanks for the response. I've actually tried all of the choices on the main page, but just listed the two smaller links on the right. I get the identical problem no matter what choice I make. I use the .deb format rather than the rpm you tried, so I thought I would just check to see if attempting to download the rpm tar would work and got the following: === HTTP ERROR: 504 Gateway Timeout RequestURI=http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.3/rpm/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.1.3_Linux_x86-64_rpm.tar.gz === This is essentially the same message, but referencing a different file. I am able to download torrents from other locations with no problem, and am able to load the same deb tar files from other locations, so I don't think it's my isp itself. I called to ask them, and they said they shouldn't be doing anything that would cause this, but who knows? I'm still confused. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Failure-to-Download-the-new-Libreoffice-tp4080683p4080893.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Failure to Download the new Libreoffice
I just download from this page. http://www.libreoffice.org/download-more/ Currently it shows 4.1.3 4.1.2 4.0.6 4.0.5 Actually this page is the easiest one if you have to download more than just one OS and set of help/language packs. I have been using this page since before 4.0.0 ever came out. On 11/01/2013 05:50 PM, CVAlkan wrote: Hi Girvin: Thanks for the response. I've actually tried all of the choices on the main page, but just listed the two smaller links on the right. I get the identical problem no matter what choice I make. I use the .deb format rather than the rpm you tried, so I thought I would just check to see if attempting to download the rpm tar would work and got the following: === HTTP ERROR: 504 Gateway Timeout RequestURI=http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.3/rpm/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.1.3_Linux_x86-64_rpm.tar.gz === This is essentially the same message, but referencing a different file. I am able to download torrents from other locations with no problem, and am able to load the same deb tar files from other locations, so I don't think it's my isp itself. I called to ask them, and they said they shouldn't be doing anything that would cause this, but who knows? I'm still confused. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Failure-to-Download-the-new-Libreoffice-tp4080683p4080893.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project
On 11/1/2013 2:05 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 11/1/13 7:04 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello everyone, Thank you for choosing and using LibreOffice! My name is Charles-H. Schulz and I'm one of the co-founders of the Document Foundation. Many people who contribute to the LibreOffice project discussed the need for us to understand how we could enroll regular users (whatever that means) to the LibreOffice project. You obviously know that LibreOffice is Free Software and that it comes with rights and freedoms for you. But besides that LibreOffice is a software development project populated by a community of people who contribute their time and skills (and many skills are required, not just the technical ones!) on a volunteer or on a paid basis. But when we come to think of it, these people started somewhere, one day, to contribute, and while they all have their own reasons, we (the people in charge of marketing) thought that everybody has the ability to contribute. The question is: how can we make it 1)interesting 2) accessible 3)easy to understand what the various tasks are 4)possible to spread the word about it? ... And this is where you come in the picture. We worked on a short survey that's anonymous (we don't require your name nor your email) and we would really like it if you could take a few minutes of your time to answer these questions. As you will see they are all about understanding how we could include users of LibreOffice and turn them into contributors. The survey is here: https://survey.documentfoundation.org/index.php/574531/lang-en We hope you're having a great time and thank you again for using LibreOffice! Best regards, I went to do the survey, didn't complete it. From going through the pages, too many places didn't allow me to provide feedback on my interests as well as concerns before becoming involved. On a couple of pages, I would like to have selected more than one. IMO, surveys such as this are essentially slanted, and could give you the answers you want to hear, not the ones you should hear. Lastly, after clicking the Exit and Clear survey button, in the following window, the close this window button did not work, even in Safe Mode for Firefox. I agree about the survey. The multiple-choice type answers did not reflect my answers. However, I had no trouble closing the window without completing the survey. -- Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project
On 01/11/2013, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: But when we come to think of it, these people started somewhere, one day, to contribute, and while they all have their own reasons, we (the people in charge of marketing) thought that everybody has the ability to contribute. The question is: how can we make it 1)interesting 2) accessible 3)easy to understand what the various tasks are 4)possible to spread the word about it? Question 2 requires a definition of contribute, e.g. is a bug submission contribution? Is helping another user via the mailing list a contribution? Q5 answers above, therefore should appear in the survey before q2! Q11 what is the relevance of knowing users' locations? Agree with Mr Springer's message. LO people should simply read the mailing list; every random date, select a random number of mailing lists threads, read, analyse and consider whether further action is necessary. You will get much better information than a biased survey -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project
*ditto* -Original Message- From: Dale Erwin [mailto:d...@casaerwin.org] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 6:04 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project On 11/1/2013 2:05 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 11/1/13 7:04 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello everyone, Thank you for choosing and using LibreOffice! My name is Charles-H. Schulz and I'm one of the co-founders of the Document Foundation. Many people who contribute to the LibreOffice project discussed the need for us to understand how we could enroll regular users (whatever that means) to the LibreOffice project. You obviously know that LibreOffice is Free Software and that it comes with rights and freedoms for you. But besides that LibreOffice is a software development project populated by a community of people who contribute their time and skills (and many skills are required, not just the technical ones!) on a volunteer or on a paid basis. But when we come to think of it, these people started somewhere, one day, to contribute, and while they all have their own reasons, we (the people in charge of marketing) thought that everybody has the ability to contribute. The question is: how can we make it 1)interesting 2) accessible 3)easy to understand what the various tasks are 4)possible to spread the word about it? ... And this is where you come in the picture. We worked on a short survey that's anonymous (we don't require your name nor your email) and we would really like it if you could take a few minutes of your time to answer these questions. As you will see they are all about understanding how we could include users of LibreOffice and turn them into contributors. The survey is here: https://survey.documentfoundation.org/index.php/574531/lang-en We hope you're having a great time and thank you again for using LibreOffice! Best regards, I went to do the survey, didn't complete it. From going through the pages, too many places didn't allow me to provide feedback on my interests as well as concerns before becoming involved. On a couple of pages, I would like to have selected more than one. IMO, surveys such as this are essentially slanted, and could give you the answers you want to hear, not the ones you should hear. Lastly, after clicking the Exit and Clear survey button, in the following window, the close this window button did not work, even in Safe Mode for Firefox. I agree about the survey. The multiple-choice type answers did not reflect my answers. However, I had no trouble closing the window without completing the survey. -- Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria
On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 23:01 +0700, Urmas wrote: And that is great, as Microsoft Office is designed not by copycats, but for people who actually know what the Office is for. Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft Office? Regards, Les H -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Failure to Download the new Libreoffice
Yes, I've used that page in the past, but it links to the same location and gives me the same gateway timeout. Luckliy, others post the required files so that I can access them. When I chatted with a rep from my ISP, he said they hadn't changed anything since I began having this issue (I think it was around the time v4 showed up, but I'm not sure). Since I haven't changed O/S either (I'm using 64 bit Ubuntu 12.04), I can't think of what else to look at. But thanks for responding. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Failure-to-Download-the-new-Libreoffice-tp4080683p4080914.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria
On 11/01/2013 08:23 PM, Les Howell wrote: On Fri, 2013-11-01 at 23:01 +0700, Urmas wrote: And that is great, as Microsoft Office is designed not by copycats, but for people who actually know what the Office is for. Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft Office? Regards, Les H MS was the bigest copycats there was back in the early days. They stole from any package that could get away with. If they could not steal it, they bought the copywrites behind it and then others had to stop using their technology. I was working in the computer field when Apple came out with the first Mac, and then many of those ideas were used to make the first Windows OS. There were a lot of different office packages out there before MSO came out, or even before MS Works came out. I know, I used them on floppy/DOS based system as well as on mini/mainframe systems. DEC has a very popular office package that was mostly a word processor, before MSO was out. Now, MS just buys patents, and companies, to get the technology they need and then sues every one else for patent infrigment if they use anything that looks like it is any way near their patented tech, but if they use some other company's patents they will fight till the other company drains their bank accounts and then go in for the kill. When they are big enough to pay court fees and fines out of their petty cash fund, they can steal anything they want to and get away with it since no other company, of government can afford to go head-to-toe with MS in a court battle, since every one else cannot spend like MS can for court costs. Now there are some good things about MS, there has to be somewhere, but I do not know of any off the top of my head. Actually MS stole the mouse tech from Apple, and Apple stole it from Zerox [if I remember correctly]. -- know what the office is for? Who's office? The small business user, the mid-level businesses, the enterprise level businesses? Not my home office [now and in the past] I dumped MSO as soon as there was a good option that still read/wrote MSO file formats. The last MSO I used was 2003, and I fealt it was bloated and a waste of money as it was. 90% of the businesses users I know of use less than 10% of the features and functions that MSO has. MS proudly announced, once, that between one version of MSO to the next one they added over 1,000 new features. Well I bet that the users of the previous version of MSO could use very few on them, unless they were really high end users that need to read complex manuals to figure out how to get even a third of the new features to work, even if they could not use hardly any of them in their business. Look at the Win8 blunder. Then tell me that MS knows what offices and businesses want and need? Businesses panned it in droves. But, MS kept hyping that this is the OS you have been waiting for. I really wonder when it was, the last time that the developers of MSO or MS Windows actually go together with a large diversity of users, business and otherwise, and a large number of them, over 10,000, to ask what you like and not like about their current project [in a blind survey] and what is needed for the next version. It seems that MS feels that if we make it for you, you will buy it and love it. It feels like they no longer ask users what is wanted or needed. If MS would have looked at the Linux market, Ubuntu was the top Linux distro till they came up with the tile based Unity desktop environment. Users left Ubuntu in droves and Linux Mint, with the older style of desktop, became the top distro [for non server users]. Also, no one wanted MS's tile based phones, so MS decided to make phones, tablets, laptops, and desktop, use a tile based desktop environment. They removed the Start Button and was forced to put it back in Win 8.1, because users voted with the pockets and panned Win8 and kept using or buying Win7. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Failure to Download the new Libreoffice
All LibreOffice versions for all OS http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/?C=N;O=D -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Failure-to-Download-the-new-Libreoffice-tp4080683p4080918.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project
Hi Charles and all: I agree with this survey and I think it would be usefull and I haven't problem to give my e-mail to Document Foundation. Regards, Jorge Rodríguez - Original Message - From: Dan Hall dih...@myfairpoint.net To: Dale Erwin d...@casaerwin.org, users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 5:11:40 PM Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project *ditto* -Original Message- From: Dale Erwin [mailto:d...@casaerwin.org] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 6:04 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project On 11/1/2013 2:05 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 11/1/13 7:04 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Hello everyone, Thank you for choosing and using LibreOffice! My name is Charles-H. Schulz and I'm one of the co-founders of the Document Foundation. Many people who contribute to the LibreOffice project discussed the need for us to understand how we could enroll regular users (whatever that means) to the LibreOffice project. You obviously know that LibreOffice is Free Software and that it comes with rights and freedoms for you. But besides that LibreOffice is a software development project populated by a community of people who contribute their time and skills (and many skills are required, not just the technical ones!) on a volunteer or on a paid basis. But when we come to think of it, these people started somewhere, one day, to contribute, and while they all have their own reasons, we (the people in charge of marketing) thought that everybody has the ability to contribute. The question is: how can we make it 1)interesting 2) accessible 3)easy to understand what the various tasks are 4)possible to spread the word about it? ... And this is where you come in the picture. We worked on a short survey that's anonymous (we don't require your name nor your email) and we would really like it if you could take a few minutes of your time to answer these questions. As you will see they are all about understanding how we could include users of LibreOffice and turn them into contributors. The survey is here: https://survey.documentfoundation.org/index.php/574531/lang-en We hope you're having a great time and thank you again for using LibreOffice! Best regards, I went to do the survey, didn't complete it. From going through the pages, too many places didn't allow me to provide feedback on my interests as well as concerns before becoming involved. On a couple of pages, I would like to have selected more than one. IMO, surveys such as this are essentially slanted, and could give you the answers you want to hear, not the ones you should hear. Lastly, after clicking the Exit and Clear survey button, in the following window, the close this window button did not work, even in Safe Mode for Firefox. I agree about the survey. The multiple-choice type answers did not reflect my answers. However, I had no trouble closing the window without completing the survey. -- Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] WeekNum_Year()
According to ISO-8601: January 1, 2000 is also 1999-W52-07. I can get the W52 from WeekNum, and the 07 from WeekDay; but currently, the only function that provides the year gives 2000, not 1999. Could we get an ISO-8601-compliant WeekNum_Year function that gives the year that's consistent with WeekNum? Note that WeekNum_Year() would be equivalent to Year() except for up to the first or last three days of the Gregorian year. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria
Les Howell: Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft Office? Microsoft mostly. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Failure to Download the new Libreoffice
On 11/01/2013 03:23 PM, CVAlkan wrote: When selecting the Main Installer 196 MB (Torrent) option, I receive a page containing the following: === Page: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.3/deb/x86_64/LibreOffice_4.1.3_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz.torrent === HTTP ERROR: 504 Gateway Timeout Do you have a torrent client installed? If so, is it grabbing the torrent information? This is essentially the behavior I have experienced at least since the release of version 4. What changes did you make to your system settings, around the time that LibO 4.0 was released? Assuming that you aren't trying to download the torrent, without using a torrent client, my guess is that a proxy, firewall, or something similar is holding packets just long enough for some of them to time out, but not enough to cause the site to be unreachable. A slightly misconfigured DansGuardian setup can cause the behaviour you describe. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
