Re: [libreoffice-users] Issues downloading LibreOffice Portable

2013-12-19 Thread Mikel Urbieta
Hi,

You can also use this plugin:
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/libreoffice-server-installation-gui
You can install any version of LibreOffice in parallel

Good luck!







2013/12/18 Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com

 Hi :)
 This link might help
 https://www.libreoffice.org/download/portable/

 There is another portable apps type of place that has every version of
 LibreOffice but i'm not sure of the address.  The marketing team were
 going to put their link on the same page as the link i just gave but i
 didn't read the page to see if it's there.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

 On 18 December 2013 01:40, Name Hidden for Security Reasons
 xmlhttprequest.o...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello,
  Sorry for replying so late.  I was just searching my disposable inbox for
  portable, not expecting to find anything, and found your e-mail.
 
  I found that LibreOffice Portable is available on CNet's Download.com
  service
  (
 http://download.cnet.com/LibreOffice-Portable/3000-18483_4-75449672.html?tag=mncol;1
 ).
  However, the version is shown as 4.1, and last updated July 29, 2013.
  The
  LibreOffice Portable site on PortableApps.com lets me download version
  4.1.3, but the same problems persist.  I've cleared the browser cache,
 tried
  different browsers (IE, Firefox, and Chrome), and even tried different
  computers and wireless networks.  I get the same result, in which the
  browser gets the impression that the download is complete, and upon
 opening
  the .paf.exe file, I get Installer integrity check failed. error.
  I'm using Windows Vista 64-bit.
  Version 4.1 (downloadable from Download.com) downloaded successfully,
 and I
  installed it on my flash drive successfully. Did The Document Foundation
  quit mirroring their downloads off of Download.com?
  Thank you.
 
 
  On 12/3/2013 7:55 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 
  Hi :)
  Did you manage to solve this in the end?  I think the Portable Aps
  version is only for Windows.  On Linux it's much easier to install
  LibreOffice through any of your package managers although you might
  not get the most up-to-date one.
 
  However it is odd that you were having trouble downloading with
  Firefox.  Any nonIE web-browser tend to be able to cope better with
  intermittent connections.
 
  The only way you could usually improve on that is by using the
  torrent.  You probably have a reasonably good torrenting client
  built-in to your system so just download the tiny torrent and then
  allow your client to use it or else double-click on it when it's
  downloaded.  Either way the full download should start shortly after.
 
  It might be even better to try a different mirror but i've not figured
  out how to do anything like that.  Most people know but it eludes me
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
  On 28 November 2013 18:53, Name Hidden for Security Reasons
  xmlhttprequest.o...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
  Hello,
  I was trying to download the LibreOffice 4.1.3 Portable edition from
  LibreOffice.org, and then tried the download from PortableApps.com.
  I've tried to download the package using different methods and
 browsers,
  and
  the download (which is supposed to be around 113 MB, according to HTTP
  headers) stops (at anywhere from 7.9 MB downloaded to 40.2 MB
 downloaded,
  in
  the multiple attempts to download LibreOffice Portable).  The browser
  gets
  the impression that the download is completed.  However, I get an error
  message when opening the
  LibreOfficePortable_4.1.3_MultilingualNormal.paf.exe file, saying
 that
  the
  installer integrity check failed.
  I know that:
 
* I am using a direct connection to the internet router.
* I got the same, repeating issue every time I tried to re-download
  the file.
* It appeared as if I were being redirected to a mirror.
* Nothing is wrong with my hosts file
  (%systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc\hosts).
* I didn't lose my internet connection.
 
 
  I've come to the conclusion that something might be wrong with the
  servers
  of The Document Foundation, LibreOffice, or the mirror
  mirror.nexcess.net.
  Is there anything I can do to download LibreOffice Portable without
 these
  issues, or is something going on on your servers or the mirror?
  I also noticed unusual behavior of the LibreOffice website when
  attempting
  to download LibreOffice Portable, as described below in the HTTP
 headers:
  Data I found questionable is marked red, while data that is unusual is
  marked yellow, followed by a note.
 
  When I clicked the download button for LibreOffice, I noticed that it
  goes
  to the url
 
 
 http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/portable/4.1.3/LibreOfficePortable_4.1.3_MultilingualNormal.paf.exe
 .
  However, I get redirected to a mirror url
 
  (
 http://mirror.nexcess.net/tdf/libreoffice/portable/4.1.3/LibreOfficePortable_4.1.3_MultilingualNormal.paf.exe
 ).
 
  When reviewing the headers of the requests, I found some information in
  the
  headers that is 

[libreoffice-users] Re: Issues downloading LibreOffice Portable

2013-12-19 Thread Pedro
I recommend that you download the latest version from winPenPack

http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1354

or any version you prefer...
http://sourceforge.net/projects/winpenpack/files/X-LibreOffice/releases/

X-LibreOffice has more features and is better optimized than Portable
LibreOffice from PortableApps.

It is also supported by TDF so you can be sure it's not a hacked (in the
negative sense of the word) version.

Hope this helps ;)



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[libreoffice-users] FDO/Bugzilla Outages: Technical difficulties, please stand by

2013-12-19 Thread Robinson Tryon
The FDO site has been sporadically unavailable for the last hour or
so. Anything that interacts with Freedesktop.org Bugzilla may be
affected, including

- Bugzilla
- The BSA
- IZBot
- EasyHacks wiki pages
- Other collections of bug reports on wiki pages
- The bug-reporter tool
- The MAB tool
- etc...

NOTE: If you're filing or editing bugs in Bugzilla, please confirm
that your edits are *fully saved* before leaving the page. If you get
a timeout error, you can usually just hit the back button in your
browser and rescue all of your data.

If you do hit a timeout or other bug, I *wholeheartedly* recommend
that you don't keep on trying to save the tab w/data in it (which
might result in some loss), but instead open a 2nd tab in your browser
and test FDO every minute or two until it's back up. Once the site is
up, promptly save the edits that have been hanging out in your 1st
tab.

If I hear any updates from FDO, I'll let you know.

Best,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] multiple file import

2013-12-19 Thread Paul D. Mirowsky

I would love this feature, but with one thing added.
Imported files would automatically take the name of the original files.
Offending characters would be stripped or substituted.
Duplicate file names would have an increment adder.


On 12/18/2013 3:32 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 19:13 18/12/2013 +, Nobody Noname wrote:
Is there a way to import multiple files into a new document? The 
existing function only allows multiples files to be imported 
successively, which is inefficient. If a directory contains

file1
file2
file3
it would be beneficial to be able to select all files in the import 
dialogue window for automatic successive import into the new document.


One obvious problem would be the necessity to indicate the order in 
which multiple files should be incorporated.  It would be easy if you 
had files with carefully organised names, but in general you wouldn't 
have that.  In any case, would file10 become positioned after file9 or 
between file1 and file2?  Would that apply in all operating systems?


If you needed either to list the files in the order in which you 
wanted them incorporated, or else to readjust everything after 
assembly, you would be better off (and achieve a more reliable result) 
by simply importing one at a time.


Brian Barker





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Issues downloading LibreOffice Portable

2013-12-19 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


What are the differences between the winPenPack version of LO and the 
one from PortableApps.com.


What do you mean by more features and better optimized?  I thought 
that the PortableApps.com version that LO's web site links to does not 
remove any features so the more features statement needs to be clarified.


If the winPenPack is so much better than the other one, then why is it 
not listed in the Portable page of LO's site?



On 12/19/2013 07:25 AM, Pedro wrote:

I recommend that you download the latest version from winPenPack

http://www.winpenpack.com/en/download.php?view.1354

or any version you prefer...
http://sourceforge.net/projects/winpenpack/files/X-LibreOffice/releases/

X-LibreOffice has more features and is better optimized than Portable
LibreOffice from PortableApps.

It is also supported by TDF so you can be sure it's not a hacked (in the
negative sense of the word) version.

Hope this helps ;)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] multiple file import

2013-12-19 Thread Brian Barker

At 09:26 19/12/2013 -0500, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:

At 19:13 18/12/2013 +, Nobody Noname wrote:
Is there a way to import multiple files into a new document? The 
existing function only allows multiples files to be imported 
successively, which is inefficient. If a directory contains

file1
file2
file3
it would be beneficial to be able to select all files in the import 
dialogue window for automatic successive import into the new document.


I would love this feature, but with one thing added.  Imported files 
would automatically take the name of the original files.


We must be at cross-purposes here!  The original request is for 
multiple files to be imported into a fresh, single file.  There would 
be no plurality of files to take on a plurality of names: just a 
single name for the single file made up of the contents of the many 
component files.  You'd name the composite file when you saved it - 
and you'd very likely put it in the same folder, so you wouldn't want 
it to have the same name as any of its components.



Offending characters would be stripped or substituted.


Since the component files already exist, they can have no offending 
characters - either within their text or in their file names.



Duplicate file names would have an increment adder.


You cannot have duplicate file names in the single source directory 
of course - unless you are extending the idea to importing, say, a 
combination of .odt and .doc files into one document in one process!


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Display running total of Table Control in LibreOffice Base form

2013-12-19 Thread Dan Lewis

On 12/11/2013 07:25 AM, Lelanthran Manickum wrote:

Hi all


I posted this on stackoverflow with no success; perhaps someone where can
help:

I'm using LibreOffice 4.0 + MySQL on Linux. I have a form which contains a
Table Control. This table has a column that is an integer. I would like to
have a different control on the same form that keeps a running total of the
above-mentioned integer field in the above-mentioned table control.

So far I tried using a parameterised query that gets executed in a subform
(which holds the text box control that displays the result of the query),
but this prompts me for the parameter each time I change a row in the table.


Basically the table control houses a table which is used to record
line-items on a purchase receipt. I want a separate control that displays a
running total as the user enters line-items.


Warm Regards

Lelanthran

 There are things that I do not understand about your table 
control. You mentioned a running total of a field, but of what is it a 
running total? Do you need to use the SUM function, or would the COUNT 
function work? Without knowing what is the purpose of the field, it is 
hard to know how to get the information you want to appear in the form.
 A query is likely what you would need to use to solve your 
problem. But without knowing what fields are contained in the table 
control, suggestions as to how to solve the problem are hard to make.
 You will need to use a query for what you want. It will contain 
your field of interest and at least another field which will limit the 
query output to the rows which are of interest to you.
 For example, I have a form containing the foods I eat. One table 
control contains the nutitional information about the foods as well as a 
field with a checkbox to select the foods I eat. I want to know the 
quanity of protein, carbohydrates, and fats that I consume (one query). 
In another query, I want to know what are the percentage of total 
calories that I get from protein, carbohydrates, and protein. Using the 
field with the checkbox, I can limit the data to the rows which have a 
check. Then I can add, multiply, and divide in the query to get the 
results I want.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Issues downloading LibreOffice Portable

2013-12-19 Thread Pedro
krackedpress wrote
 What do you mean by more features and better optimized?  I thought 
 that the PortableApps.com version that LO's web site links to does not 
 remove any features so the more features statement needs to be
 clarified.

No features are removed on any of the Portable packs.

winPenPack allows to choose on first run the language that you want to use
as default for the interface and any other language (or languages) as
alternative for the GUI as well as for dictionaries.

PortableApps only allows to choose between English only OR English (US and
GB), Arabic, Chinese (Simplified and Traditional), French, German, Italian,
Japanese, Korean, Portuguese (Brazilian and Portugal), Russian, and Spanish
There is no option for e.g. Portuguese only.

On a slow computer when running LO from a pen drive (connected to a USB 2.0
port...) X-LibreOffice loads faster and seems to respond faster (maybe
because it has less language modules?) than Portable LibreOffice

Another reason why I prefer winPenPack is that new releases of X-LibreOffice
are usually available soon after the official release by TDF (e.g. LO 4.1.4
was announced yesterday and X-LibreOffice 4.1.4 is already available today)
This allows me to install a new version (e.g. LO 4.2.0.1 which is a Release
Candidate so it overwrites my install) and still have the previous version
as a portable ready to test for regressions.


krackedpress wrote
 If the winPenPack is so much better than the other one, then why is it 
 not listed in the Portable page of LO's site?

Maybe because X-LibreOffice is only sanctioned by the Italian LibreOffice
Community
http://it.libreoffice.org/download/portatile/
but not by the German/Global TDF...
You should ask that to TDF.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

2013-12-19 Thread Cliff Scott
** Reply to message from Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com on Wed, 18
Dec 2013 17:10:24 +

 At 07:46 18/12/2013 -0600, Cliff Scott wrote:
 Initially I just want a sheet with all the labels the same. [...] 
 For now I can obviously copy/paste to each label, but the wizard's 
 way of entering data for one then propagating it to all is handy for 
 like a set of return address labels.
 
 If you are using a table, have you tried my suggestion in a related thread?
 
 o Put the cursor in the cell containing the text.
 o Press Ctrl+A to select all the text in that cell.
 o Press Ctrl+C to copy that text.
 o Press Ctrl+A again to select the entire table.
 o Press Ctrl+V to paste copies of the text into all the cells at once.
 
 I trust this helps.

Thanks Brian. Saw that after I sent my email. Should work fine.

Cliff

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Issues downloading LibreOffice Portable

2013-12-19 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


Did someone [other than you]  once state that the X-LibreOffice can be 
run even if you have installed a version of Lo on your Windows system, 
while the PortableApps version cannot?


I do not use Windows, much, unless I need to deal with a Win-only 
package on my laptop[s].  I mostly use Ubuntu 12.04LTS, which is the 
only OS on my desktop [Ubuntu 12.04LTS 64-bit, Quad processor with 6 TB 
of drive space].  I use my laptops for both Ubuntu and Win7 OSs, when 
needed.


So, if I get what you are implying, you would recommend using the 
X-LibreOffice on a flash drive to show users how well LO could work for 
them, without having them install LO on their systems. Is there anything 
else from the winPenPack that should be installed on that flash drive 
[16 GB would be my choice] to make the use/process be smoother for the 
demonstration?


Also, can you install extra dictionaries and other .oxt extensions to 
the X-LibreOffice flash drive setup?  Some of the extension that are 
out there might be useful for a potential user, plus my 797,865 word 
spell checking en_US dictionary is something I tend to install by 
default on any system that I install LO on.


If the X-LibreOffice is a good option, I may add that to the NA-DVD 
project as a second portable version choice.  Since I got out of a 
week's stay in the hospital, I have been thinking about what I can do to 
improve that project and the presentation [again] to local business 
groups.  So having more options and more documentation showing how well 
LO works for the business and educational communities would help.  The 
option of trying out a faster portable version of LO would be one of the 
helpers.  Last time I tried the PortableApps.com version, it was very 
slow on my dual core laptop.



On 12/19/2013 12:04 PM, Pedro wrote:

krackedpress wrote

What do you mean by more features and better optimized?  I thought
that the PortableApps.com version that LO's web site links to does not
remove any features so the more features statement needs to be
clarified.

No features are removed on any of the Portable packs.

winPenPack allows to choose on first run the language that you want to use
as default for the interface and any other language (or languages) as
alternative for the GUI as well as for dictionaries.

PortableApps only allows to choose between English only OR English (US and
GB), Arabic, Chinese (Simplified and Traditional), French, German, Italian,
Japanese, Korean, Portuguese (Brazilian and Portugal), Russian, and Spanish
There is no option for e.g. Portuguese only.

On a slow computer when running LO from a pen drive (connected to a USB 2.0
port...) X-LibreOffice loads faster and seems to respond faster (maybe
because it has less language modules?) than Portable LibreOffice

Another reason why I prefer winPenPack is that new releases of X-LibreOffice
are usually available soon after the official release by TDF (e.g. LO 4.1.4
was announced yesterday and X-LibreOffice 4.1.4 is already available today)
This allows me to install a new version (e.g. LO 4.2.0.1 which is a Release
Candidate so it overwrites my install) and still have the previous version
as a portable ready to test for regressions.


krackedpress wrote

If the winPenPack is so much better than the other one, then why is it
not listed in the Portable page of LO's site?

Maybe because X-LibreOffice is only sanctioned by the Italian LibreOffice
Community
http://it.libreoffice.org/download/portatile/
but not by the German/Global TDF...
You should ask that to TDF.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Issues downloading LibreOffice Portable

2013-12-19 Thread Pedro
krackedpress wrote
 Did someone [other than you]  once state that the X-LibreOffice can be 
 run even if you have installed a version of Lo on your Windows system, 
 while the PortableApps version cannot?

That is not true. What I said (and still is true) is that you can not run
LibreOffice Portable if your installed LibreOffice is running. You get a
message saying Another instance of LibreOffice is already running. Please
close other instances of LibreOffice before launching LibreOffice Portable.
However you can run as many X-LibreOffice versions simultaneously and at the
same time as the installed version as you wish (or your machine handles...)

(I had forgotten about that limitation when I mentioned why I prefer
X-LibreOffice. Thank you for reminding me :) )


krackedpress wrote
 So, if I get what you are implying, you would recommend using the 
 X-LibreOffice on a flash drive to show users how well LO could work for 
 them, without having them install LO on their systems. Is there anything 
 else from the winPenPack that should be installed on that flash drive 
 [16 GB would be my choice] to make the use/process be smoother for the 
 demonstration?

If your demonstration uses features that require Java you might need to
investigate how to get a portable Java (just to be on the safe side in case
the PC used for demonstration does not have an installed version of
Java...). I know there is one from PortableApps and there should be an
equivalent from winPenPack. I don't use Java so I haven't investigated that
part.

For me one of the greatest advantages of having a fully working version of
LibreOffice running from a flash drive is that you can take a presentation
in ODP with you AND the software that runs it. So there is no need to
convert to PowerPoint and there is no problem if the PC used for
presentation doesn't have an ODF compliant office suite or only has one that
(deliberately?) has problems in loading an ODP presentation.
Just load the Portable LibreOffice (either one) and load the presentation.
Easy :)


krackedpress wrote
 Also, can you install extra dictionaries and other .oxt extensions to 
 the X-LibreOffice flash drive setup?  Some of the extension that are 
 out there might be useful for a potential user, plus my 797,865 word 
 spell checking en_US dictionary is something I tend to install by 
 default on any system that I install LO on.

Yes, of course. On both portable Offices. Any extension or theme (again,
check if Java is needed)


krackedpress wrote
 If the X-LibreOffice is a good option, I may add that to the NA-DVD 
 project as a second portable version choice.

I think you should. More choices is always good when you are distributing
something that can be used in ways that you can't even imagine...


krackedpress wrote
 I have been thinking about what I can do to 
 improve that project and the presentation [again] to local business 
 groups.  So having more options and more documentation showing how well 
 LO works for the business and educational communities would help.  The 
 option of trying out a faster portable version of LO would be one of the 
 helpers.  Last time I tried the PortableApps.com version, it was very 
 slow on my dual core laptop.

Actually I just loaded version 4.1.3 of both portable offices from an
external USB 3.0 hard disk on a fast computer (Dual Core @3GHz) and there is
no noticeable difference. Maybe things have improved (or they are only
noticeable on slow computers...)

One of the greatest advantages of having a portable version of LibreOffice
is that you can suggest people to just try it without the need to install
anything. There is no risk. No mess. If they are not happy with it, they can
simply erase it and try another version in a few months



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[libreoffice-users] Writer - Tables - problem

2013-12-19 Thread paulwhitehurst
In writer in a table I have numerical data entered in a column.  I set the
column to be right justified and the numeric format to currency. 
Occasionally I'll enter a number and it will not format correctly and will
shift to the left.  I can force it to right justify the cell contents, but I
can't force it to apply currency numeric format.  What am I doing wrong?

Paul Whitehurst
whan...@aol.com




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Re: [libreoffice-users] with styles, is not master document functionality unnecessary+

2013-12-19 Thread e-letter
On 18/12/2013, Gabriel Risterucci cleyf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Master document are not only about sharing styles (in fact, I never saw
 them in this light), it's about splitting your work in easily manageable
 smaller files. I don't even know why having styles would concern having the
 possibility to create a master document.
 When you're working on a reasonnably large project, it's simply easier to
 split it. For example, having each chapter in it's own file, instead of
 loading one huge file​​. It's more stable and easier to navigate.
 Ahem, still don't get why you're mixing the presence of styles and master
 document. The only link I can think of is that a master document's style
 override the sub-documents, but even then... maybe you can clarify what you
 meant?


Found a list of files in a directory, each file was quite small is
size. That's what started to think whether a master document is
appropriate or not. If styles are extensive in each of the small
files, importing them into a new file would be expected to retain
styles and therefore make navigation via 'navigator' to be more
convenient than opening multiple individual files

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Importing .xls table into Base

2013-12-19 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think Base is best when you keep those tables externally, preferably
in a dedicated database program such as MySql / MariaDb, Postgresql,
HsqlDb or any of the other ones.  Access is not so good at linking to
external sources for it's data so it's quite a radical difference
between Access and Base.  It means Base is much easier to upscale (or
downscale) just by swithcing which back-end program is storing your
data.

The link didn't work very well for me either.  The close-bracket at
the end seems to have grabbed the f which radically changes the
address and just got me something like a 404 Page does not exist
error.  It might be better to look through the wiki's Faq about Base
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq
Also the official documentation has a handbook and the 1st 3 chapters
of the guide.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications

I wonder if the pdf link works better like this?
 * https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/e/e8/BH40-BaseHandbook.pdf

Regards from
Tom :)


On 16 December 2013 21:22, dollyp da...@lochnevis.com wrote:
 julien2412 wrote
 Taking a look to the documentation, I read this:
 Exporting data from Calc into a database
 Select the data in the Calc worksheet. Hold the left mouse button down and
 drag the data that you
 want to turn into a database into the table area of the database browser.
 
 (see
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/e/e8/BH40-BaseHandbook.pdf)

 Sorry I can't find this info in the document you linked to. There are
 several paragraphs about linking to spreadsheets but that's all I can find.

 Nevertheless, thanks to both responders for the information, which proved to
 be what I needed. I would say that for folk coming to Base from Access, the
 lack of a menu option for 'import' does not help. To be fair, select/paste
 is more intuitive and a plus for Base.

 Again thanks
 David




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Issues downloading LibreOffice Portable

2013-12-19 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
The marketing team did discuss the WinPenPack option and decided it
was a great idea and that there should be a link to it on the
LibreOffice web-page about Portable Apps.  Errr but then we didn't get
around to it! :(  Sorry!  This sort of thing does happen in any
organisation but when it happens in other types it's claimed to have
been done deliberately but when it happens in an organisation like
this one it's held as an example of why CEOs are worth paying vast
salaries too.
Apols and regards from
Tom :)



On 19 December 2013 17:04, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
 krackedpress wrote
 What do you mean by more features and better optimized?  I thought
 that the PortableApps.com version that LO's web site links to does not
 remove any features so the more features statement needs to be
 clarified.

 No features are removed on any of the Portable packs.

 winPenPack allows to choose on first run the language that you want to use
 as default for the interface and any other language (or languages) as
 alternative for the GUI as well as for dictionaries.

 PortableApps only allows to choose between English only OR English (US and
 GB), Arabic, Chinese (Simplified and Traditional), French, German, Italian,
 Japanese, Korean, Portuguese (Brazilian and Portugal), Russian, and Spanish
 There is no option for e.g. Portuguese only.

 On a slow computer when running LO from a pen drive (connected to a USB 2.0
 port...) X-LibreOffice loads faster and seems to respond faster (maybe
 because it has less language modules?) than Portable LibreOffice

 Another reason why I prefer winPenPack is that new releases of X-LibreOffice
 are usually available soon after the official release by TDF (e.g. LO 4.1.4
 was announced yesterday and X-LibreOffice 4.1.4 is already available today)
 This allows me to install a new version (e.g. LO 4.2.0.1 which is a Release
 Candidate so it overwrites my install) and still have the previous version
 as a portable ready to test for regressions.


 krackedpress wrote
 If the winPenPack is so much better than the other one, then why is it
 not listed in the Portable page of LO's site?

 Maybe because X-LibreOffice is only sanctioned by the Italian LibreOffice
 Community
 http://it.libreoffice.org/download/portatile/
 but not by the German/Global TDF...
 You should ask that to TDF.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] with styles, is not master document functionality unnecessary+

2013-12-19 Thread Gabriel Risterucci
2013/12/19 e-letter inp...@gmail.com

 On 18/12/2013, Gabriel Risterucci cleyf...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Master document are not only about sharing styles (in fact, I never saw
  them in this light), it's about splitting your work in easily manageable
  smaller files. I don't even know why having styles would concern having
 the
  possibility to create a master document.
  When you're working on a reasonnably large project, it's simply easier to
  split it. For example, having each chapter in it's own file, instead of
  loading one huge file​​. It's more stable and easier to navigate.
  Ahem, still don't get why you're mixing the presence of styles and master
  document. The only link I can think of is that a master document's style
  override the sub-documents, but even then... maybe you can clarify what
 you
  meant?
 

 Found a list of files in a directory, each file was quite small is
 size. That's what started to think whether a master document is
 appropriate or not. If styles are extensive in each of the small
 files, importing them into a new file would be expected to retain
 styles and therefore make navigation via 'navigator' to be more
 convenient than opening multiple individual files


​If I understand correctly, your files are not meant to get glued together,
but only to share styles.​
​In that case, there is several things to know:
- If the files already exists, you can load styles from one document to
another one. It will erase all styles in the current document that share a
name with the loaded ones, but subsequent changes in either files won't
be repercuted in the other.
- If you're creating new files, create a template beforehand (even an empty
one) that will be used to create your documents. By doing so, if you change
the styles in the template, when opening a file created with this template
it will prompt you about updating styles in the document. There's
effectively a link between the documents and the template
- Additionnaly, you can create that link between a document and a
template using the following extension:
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/template-changer. By
doing so, updating the template will have the behavior described before, as
in it will prompt you to update the various independant files.

Note that this extension, while not updated for long, still work. However
having this feature built-in (the ability to change a document's master
template) would be nice.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] with styles, is not master document functionality unnecessary+

2013-12-19 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Thursday 19 December 2013 10:56:25 PM Gabriel Risterucci wrote:

 - Additionnaly, you can create that link between a document and a
 template using the following extension:
 http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/template-changer. By
 doing so, updating the template will have the behavior described before, as
 in it will prompt you to update the various independant files.
 
 Note that this extension, while not updated for long, still work. However
 having this feature built-in (the ability to change a document's master
 template) would be nice.


This might not be such a good idea. In MS Word, changing the template used to 
be a major source of corruption and formatting problems. For all I know, it 
still is.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer - Tables - problem

2013-12-19 Thread Brian Barker

At 11:43 19/12/2013 -0800, Paul Whitehurst wrote:
In writer in a table I have numerical data entered in a column.  I 
set the column to be right justified and the numeric format to 
currency.  Occasionally I'll enter a number and it will not format 
correctly and will shift to the left.  I can force it to right 
justify the cell contents, but I can't force it to apply currency 
numeric format.  What am I doing wrong?


You may want to experiment with the options at Tools | Options... | 
LibreOffice Writer | Table | Input in tables.  I don't claim to be an 
expert in exactly what these do, so I won't attempt to explain.


But there is one thing of which you should be aware.  In some 
circumstances, any input that does not fit the applied format - in 
your case, Currency - will automatically reset the format of that 
cell alone to Text.  Note that something as simple as completing an 
entry into a cell with Enter (instead of an arrow key or a mouse 
click) will render your entry no longer acceptable as Currency and 
have this effect. Interestingly, if you press Enter and then 
Backspace to correct yourself, the problem persists, but Enter 
followed by Edit | Undo (or Ctrl+Z) works without resetting the cell 
format.  Note also that if you paste in a number from elsewhere, it 
is quite easy to bring along a trailing paragraph break, just as if 
you had pressed Enter, and this will likewise cause your problem


When you say that you can't force it to apply currency numeric 
format, do you mean that reapplying the format has no effect?  The 
only reason I can imagine for that would be that your entry cannot be 
interpreted as Currency: perhaps it contains a rogue character or has 
misplaced thousands separators, for example.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker  



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Re: [libreoffice-users] State of password support.

2013-12-19 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


Thanks for the link

On 12/19/2013 01:05 AM, Massimo Del Zotto wrote:
2013/12/18 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org 
mailto:and...@pitonyak.org


You mean recently?As in the latest version of LO has a problem
with passwords?

 No, I am referring to OOo. I am considering to switch to LO because 
of this problem and I'm trying to figure out if this problem is 
considered more important by LO developers.



Oh, I had not considered that you were using OOo.

As a side note, I had never considered that any of them did not take 
passwords seriously.


I don't take any of the volunteer responses as not taking it seriously, 
just super technical (almost to the point of silly when it is mentioned 
that while displayed, it is not encrypted in memory  or something 
like that).




2013/12/18 Andrew Douglas Pitonyak and...@pitonyak.org 
mailto:and...@pitonyak.org


Which forum, do you have a link to the post?

This was in the OOo forum, 
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9t=65690.
I'm not well aware how the forum admins interact with the OOo 
developer base, it looks to me they don't. I'd say this is another 
problem in itself but luckly, I'm not really interested in that one.


You will notice that the forum admins are all listed as Volunteer. 
None of the people in question likely have any official association with 
OpenOffice. To my knowledge, they are simply people that help by 
answering questions and they may have some level of moderator 
capability. In my mind, an Admin has the ability to help with certain 
user issues or in literally maintaining the system.



Massimo, you seem to be more informed of this than I, but, I am
only aware of one (what I consider) real bug that existed with LO
and passwords. At one point, I was no longer able to open a
password protected file. Specifically, one version of LO was not
able to open a password protected file.  I am pretty sure it was
LO and not AOO anyway. 


[...omissis...]

Thank you very much Andrew, this is very informative. I'm currently 
inclined to switch to LO.


I only remember one glitch with respect to passwords, and that was just 
related to an inability to open anything with a password. They fixed 
that pretty quickly.


There is some issue related to crashing it seems, but, that is really 
tough to diagnose and fix. it might even be related to something very 
difficult to fix even if you do know the problem (like a saved temporary 
file is stored without encryption). Oh, I see that MaxDZ8 states this.


I think that the real way to obtain a fix for this is to create a test 
case that is reproducible. something like manually killing OOo while it 
is running. You will need to do this with a recent copy of LO or AOO 
rather than with OOo for the bug report to be of any use. It is that 
reproducible thing that is really tough. If you cannot reproduce it, you 
are not likely to be able to fix it unless you are very lucky.


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