Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Installation version chaos
On 17/04/2015, at 19:05, Tom Davies wrote: > There's a tiny "gotcha" in there that i only noticed because i have done > the same thing myself. It's the . in > sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* > > Try again but this time without the extra * and the . before it; > sudo apt-get remove libreoffice* If you are using apt-get on Ubuntu (don't know about other versions of Linux) the best way to ensure that you have "removed" ALL Libreoffice information is sudo apt-get purge libreoffice? Note: Use the ? mark not * and no spaces. Hope this helps Tony Bray -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installation version chaos
Hi :) Yeh, it looks like Tom C's "libreoffice*.* " does affect all the libreoffice files in linux too, also including ones without a dot. I thought i had spotted something but it didn't work in the way i'd expected after all. Apols and regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2015 at 21:38, wrote: > Getting a little off-topic, but... > > Even more confusingly for Windows users, in some contexts on Windows *.* > matches all files, even those without any extension at all (similarly, > libreoffice*.* would match all files starting "libreoffice", even if they > don't contain a dot or extension). I think that's a throwback from DOS > where all files had an up-to-8-character name and up-to-3-character > extension, separated by an implied dot; *.* matched files with any number > of characters for name and any number of characters for extension, where > "any number" includes none. > > I don't like the way newer versions of Windows hide the extensions by > default. Apart from the inconvenience when you want to change them, it > makes it so much easier for a dodgy executable to look like a harmless text > document by its icon, with no giveaway that it's got a .exe extension > instead of .txt. One of the first things I do is set Explorer to show > extensions so I can see and change them if necessary: > - Click Organise > Folder and Search Options > - "View" tab > - Untick "Hide extensions for known file types" > - OK > Even then, some extensions (such as .lnk on shortcuts) are "super hidden" > and still aren't shown, at least without a registry hack... > > Mark. > > > > Tom Davies wrote: > >> Hi :) >> There's a tiny "gotcha" in there that i only noticed because i have done >> the same thing myself. It's the . in >> >> sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* >> >> Try again but this time without the extra * and the . before it; >> >> sudo apt-get remove libreoffice* >> >> Not all *nix files have a file-ending and dot. It's not like Windows! >> Windows hides it's .file-endings but almost always relies on them quite >> heavily. The end-result looks the same but can still trip people up. My >> pet bug-bear is how to rename a .html into a .txt and such-like but my >> work-around is to just avoid using Windows and that solves most such >> problems! >> >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> On 17 April 2015 at 06:41, Andreas Säger wrote: >> >> Am 17.04.2015 um 06:58 schrieb Tom Cloyd: >>> I'm running Kubuntu Linux - latest version, fully updated. I just downloaded "LibreOffice_4.4.2_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz" and its associated helpfile. I removed all other *.tar.gz files from my software download archive. I removed my previous LO installation: sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* I unpacked each *.tar.gz file and installed it from its respective "DEBS" directory: sudo dpkg -i *.deb I launched my supposed new LO version. As always with a new install, I immediately check "Help > About..." to verify the install, and I get this: Version: 4.3.5.2 Build ID: 3a87456aaa6a95c63eea1c1b3201acedf0751bd5 Since that's the version I started with, prior to this upgrade attempt, >>> I'm >>> a bit surprised. That little "download available" icon is in the upper right corner of the LO window, as well. Perhaps there's a problem up in the mothership? Tom >>> Hi Tom, >>> Open a terminal and launch /opt/LibreOffice4.4./program/soffice >>> Watch any output on the terminal. >>> >>> Oh, and don't forget to stop any "quick starter" instance of some >>> LibreOffice installation, particularly while running an installation. I >>> use to disable this useless anti-feature alltogether >>> (menu:Tools>Options>Memory>"Systray Quickstart"). >>> >>> Greetings, >>> Andreas Säger >>> >> > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office 4.2.0 as windows service on windows server 2008 R2 Server Issue
Anil Wale wrote: Hi Support Team, We are trying to setup Libre Office as windows service on windows server 2008 R2 Server, using following entry on regedit, but after this service not get started. C:\Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 4\program\ soffice.exe -headless -nofirststartwizard -accept="socket,host=localhost,port=8100;urp;StarOffice.Service" Can you please help me to setup LibreOffice_4.2.0 as a windows service or please send me steps. I don't even know if LibreOffice can be run as a Windows service. Perhaps someone else here might know. You can't just run any random program as a service - it has to be designed to respond to the commands to start and stop the service, and probably some other things. Assuming LibreOffice can run as a service, configuring a service needs more than just a single value in the registry; e.g. there are others specifying whether the service should automatically start, what happens on errors, etc. There are several problems with that command anyway: - With spaces in the path to the executable, that has to be enclosed in double-quotes ("). As it is, Windows will try starting C:\Program (which probably doesn't even exist) as an executable, passing the rest as parameters. - There should not be a space between "program\" and "soffice.exe". - As Piet mentioned, it looks like double hyphens are needed for LibreOffice parameters: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Starting_the_Software_With_Parameters So that would be: "C:\Program Files (x86)\LibreOffice 4\program\soffice.exe" --headless --nofirststartwizard --accept="socket,host=localhost,port=8100;urp;StarOffice.Service" Rather than setting up a service, it's probably easiest to just auto-run that command by adding an entry under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\ - create a string value with whatever name you like (e.g. "LibreOffice Service") and the command as the data. Before doing that though, it's probably easiest to experiment and make sure the intended command works by running it from a command prompt. If you did that with your command, it outputs: 'C:\Program' is not recognized... giving a pretty good hint to the first problem. Mark. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
LibreOffice 4.4.2.2 on Windows Vista 32 bit. Using a new, empty sheet. It only seems to happen with rows, not columns. Or at least, if it does happen with columns, more need to be selected before the delay becomes noticeable. With rows 1, 3, 5, etc. for a total of 7 selected, the delay was barely noticeable, but with 15 selected it was. There seems to be more of a delay right-clicking in the row labels, rather than clicking in the highlighted cells, although there is a delay in both cases. Mark. Gary Collins wrote: I've just tried this with a new empty sheet in LO 4.3.2.2 and haven't noticed anything - right-click seems to respond quite instantly. I have 7 non-contiguous columns selected - is that enough? Or perhaps it makes a difference if a fully populated sheet is used. I don't think I've got one handy here, I'll try when I get home later - but won't be able to post back for a few days. /Gary From: Alex McMurchy To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: aikempsh...@btinternet.com Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015, 14:30 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow Yes same here. The more discontiguous rows selected - right click is painfully slow to respond selecting subsequent rows is slow to respond Good luck On 17/04/15 11:56, Tanstaafl wrote: Hello, Before I go open a bug (didn't find an existing one), can someone please confirm this for me? Been meaning to do this for a while, but something always got in the way, but it is just started to annoy me even more... I have been experiencing this for some time, and if memory serves it was still a problem on the 4.1.x series... I'm currently on 4.3.6 The problem is in Calc, has to do with selecting discontiguous rows and a subsequent right-click action The more discontiguous rows you select, the slower the right-click is to respond. If one or more can confirm I'll go open a bug for it... Thanks -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.4. crashes reliably on a column sort
Tom Cloyd wrote: http://www.trauma-dissociation.net/misc/_DayPlanner-2015_testpage.ods The file above is a single sheet from a much larger file I use multiple times every day of my life. It will allow replication of the problem. (For some reason, it downloads as read-only, so save a copy and us that, to be able to replicate the issue.) The goal is to reorder some of the rows by sorting on values in a single column, in this case column B: I want to move rows 25-26 up to right above row, 10, so I put a zero in their col. B cell, then do a select of rows 10 to 26, and then key in Alt+D, S. The program will crash reliably. LibreOffice 4.4.2.2 on Windows Vista 32 bit. It doesn't crash at that point for me, but on pressing "OK" to do the sort, it does crash. However, sort on column C, then sort on column B, does not crash. Even stranger, sort on column C, undo, then sort on column B, does not crash. It looks like there's something about that particular sheet, in that particular state, which triggers the crash. I'd suggest filing a bug at http://bugs.libreoffice.org/, attaching that file and description as a test case. I can help you with that if necessary, or if you're happy doing it yourself please post the bug number here so the rest of us know where to find it. I have reverted to LO 4.3, of necessity, as this issue is a showstopper for me. This issue is not present in LO 4.3 That's probably your best option for now, unless you can track down what it is about that sheet causing the problem and avoid it. Mark. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installation version chaos
Getting a little off-topic, but... Even more confusingly for Windows users, in some contexts on Windows *.* matches all files, even those without any extension at all (similarly, libreoffice*.* would match all files starting "libreoffice", even if they don't contain a dot or extension). I think that's a throwback from DOS where all files had an up-to-8-character name and up-to-3-character extension, separated by an implied dot; *.* matched files with any number of characters for name and any number of characters for extension, where "any number" includes none. I don't like the way newer versions of Windows hide the extensions by default. Apart from the inconvenience when you want to change them, it makes it so much easier for a dodgy executable to look like a harmless text document by its icon, with no giveaway that it's got a .exe extension instead of .txt. One of the first things I do is set Explorer to show extensions so I can see and change them if necessary: - Click Organise > Folder and Search Options - "View" tab - Untick "Hide extensions for known file types" - OK Even then, some extensions (such as .lnk on shortcuts) are "super hidden" and still aren't shown, at least without a registry hack... Mark. Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) There's a tiny "gotcha" in there that i only noticed because i have done the same thing myself. It's the . in sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* Try again but this time without the extra * and the . before it; sudo apt-get remove libreoffice* Not all *nix files have a file-ending and dot. It's not like Windows! Windows hides it's .file-endings but almost always relies on them quite heavily. The end-result looks the same but can still trip people up. My pet bug-bear is how to rename a .html into a .txt and such-like but my work-around is to just avoid using Windows and that solves most such problems! Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2015 at 06:41, Andreas Säger wrote: Am 17.04.2015 um 06:58 schrieb Tom Cloyd: I'm running Kubuntu Linux - latest version, fully updated. I just downloaded "LibreOffice_4.4.2_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz" and its associated helpfile. I removed all other *.tar.gz files from my software download archive. I removed my previous LO installation: sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* I unpacked each *.tar.gz file and installed it from its respective "DEBS" directory: sudo dpkg -i *.deb I launched my supposed new LO version. As always with a new install, I immediately check "Help > About..." to verify the install, and I get this: Version: 4.3.5.2 Build ID: 3a87456aaa6a95c63eea1c1b3201acedf0751bd5 Since that's the version I started with, prior to this upgrade attempt, I'm a bit surprised. That little "download available" icon is in the upper right corner of the LO window, as well. Perhaps there's a problem up in the mothership? Tom Hi Tom, Open a terminal and launch /opt/LibreOffice4.4./program/soffice Watch any output on the terminal. Oh, and don't forget to stop any "quick starter" instance of some LibreOffice installation, particularly while running an installation. I use to disable this useless anti-feature alltogether (menu:Tools>Options>Memory>"Systray Quickstart"). Greetings, Andreas Säger -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Text find/replace in PDFs using API
On Friday, April 17, 2015 11:28:51 AM V Stuart Foote wrote: > YMMV to do your processing, but see if this gets you closer to configuration > needed to parse your PDF for changes. > > http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sdext/source/pdfimport/config/pdf_ > import_filter.xcu#79 figured out how to install this as an extension, and did so, but it still opens up the example PDF in Draw. I tried installing just the section you referenced and also the entire file and neither seemed to make a difference. So it seems to me that my choices are: 1) Try to determine if there's a way to open the (relatively simple) PDFs in writer to go ahead with my ReplaceText.java plan; 2) Find some way to do something like ReplaceText in draw; 3) Something else altogether, perhaps a Macro? Thanks, Ben -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Text find/replace in PDFs using API
Sorry I'm a newbie at the LO API, but how would I specify this import filter? Does this XML content belong in the value of FilterData ? EG: loadProps[0].Value = " The default PDF import filter opens PDF into Draw, but the filter can also > parse into Writer and is manipulated in GUI from the LibreOffice Open/Save > dialogs. > > YMMV to do your processing, but see if this gets you closer to configuration > needed to parse your PDF for changes. > > http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sdext/source/pdfimport/config/pdf_ > import_filter.xcu#79 > > 79oor:op="replace"> > 80 > 81 com.sun.star.text.TextDocument > 82 > 83 > 84 0 > 85 > 86 > 87 > 89 com.sun.star.comp.Writer.XmlFilterAdaptor > 90 > 91 > 92 3RDPARTYFILTER ALIEN IMPORT PREFERRED > 93 > 94 > 95 pdf_Portable_Document_Format > 96 > 97 > 98 PDF - Portable Document Format > (Writer) > 99 > 100 > 101 > 102 > 103 > 104 oor:separator=",">org.libreoffice.comp.documents.WriterPDFImport,,com.sun.st > ar.comp.Writer.XMLOasisImportertrue 105 > 106 > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Text-find-replace-in-PDFs-using-API-tp > 4146590p4146593.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Text find/replace in PDFs using API
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 11:47:25 -0700 Benjamin Smith wrote: Hello Benjamin, >Now it's failing at this line... how *do* you specify a search/replace >all text on an instance of draw? (squinting at documentation now) All beyond my abilities, I'm afraid. V Stuart has a more detailed and, potentially, useful response. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Tired of doing day jobs with no thanks for what I do Do Anything You Wanna Do - Eddie & The Hotrods -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Text find/replace in PDFs using API
// resent with additional info // On Friday, April 17, 2015 06:58:59 PM Brad Rogers wrote: > >TextReplace.java example. When it opens the file, it's not importing > >the PDF, instead it's reading it as a text file or something. > > IME, PDFs open in Draw, not Writer. What you're seeing in Writer is the > mark up. Good catch! Now the sample PDF opens and is readable! Now it's failing at this line... how *do* you specify a search/replace all text on an instance of draw? (squinting at documentation now) // You need a descriptor to set properies for Replace xReplaceDescr = xReplaceable.createReplaceDescriptor(); Apparently due to this returning null: xReplaceable = UnoRuntime.queryInterface( com.sun.star.util.XReplaceable.class, xTextDocument); Where xTextDocument is actually an instance of draw rather than writer. (so close!) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Drawing arrows in Writer.
And that's always seemed the easiest method to me - also allows any image to be inserted into the document whenever, wherever desired. From: Brian Barker Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Drawing arrows in Writer. To: users@global.libreoffice.org At 11:49 16/04/2015 +0200, M Henri Day wrote: The arrow tool in the draw function toolbar in, e g, Draw or Impress makes > drawing an arrow there a breeze, but the same toolbar in Writer (I'm using > 4.4.2) seems to lack this particular - and very handy - tool. Is there some > way to get around this lack and draw arrows (other than block arrows) in > Writer ? > As has already been suggested, you can insert a line in a text document (using the Drawing toolbar) and then format it in many ways (Format | Object > | Line... or right-click | Line...), including adding arrowheads. But you can also create whatever you need in a Draw or Impress document and easily copy-and-paste it into a text document. The resulting arrow can still be manipulated in the text document. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Text find/replace in PDFs using API
On Friday, April 17, 2015 06:58:59 PM Brad Rogers wrote: > >TextReplace.java example. When it opens the file, it's not importing > >the PDF, instead it's reading it as a text file or something. > > IME, PDFs open in Draw, not Writer. What you're seeing in Writer is the > mark up. Good catch! Now the sample PDF opens and is readable! Now it's failing at this line... how *do* you specify a search/replace all text on an instance of draw? (squinting at documentation now) // You need a descriptor to set properies for Replace xReplaceDescr = xReplaceable.createReplaceDescriptor(); -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Text find/replace in PDFs using API
The default PDF import filter opens PDF into Draw, but the filter can also parse into Writer and is manipulated in GUI from the LibreOffice Open/Save dialogs. YMMV to do your processing, but see if this gets you closer to configuration needed to parse your PDF for changes. http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sdext/source/pdfimport/config/pdf_import_filter.xcu#79 79 80 81 com.sun.star.text.TextDocument 82 83 84 0 85 86 87 89 com.sun.star.comp.Writer.XmlFilterAdaptor 90 91 92 3RDPARTYFILTER ALIEN IMPORT PREFERRED 93 94 95 pdf_Portable_Document_Format 96 97 98 PDF - Portable Document Format (Writer) 99 100 101 102 103 104 org.libreoffice.comp.documents.WriterPDFImport,,com.sun.star.comp.Writer.XMLOasisImportertrue 105 106 -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Text-find-replace-in-PDFs-using-API-tp4146590p4146593.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Text find/replace in PDFs using API
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 10:40:58 -0700 Benjamin Smith wrote: Hello Benjamin, >TextReplace.java example. When it opens the file, it's not importing >the PDF, instead it's reading it as a text file or something. IME, PDFs open in Draw, not Writer. What you're seeing in Writer is the mark up. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" The stakes were high but the danger low Charade - Skids -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Text find/replace in PDFs using API
Hello! This is my first post to this list. We have a large number of PDF documents that we need to modify slightly and save. After a fair amount of research, it seems like the LibreOffice API and the TextReplace.java code sample should get me rather close to the mark. I almost have the script working, but I'm having trouble telling libreoffice to open the PDF as a PDF rather than a text document. The result is a bunch of gobbledygook. Here's the file I started with: http://api.libreoffice.org/examples/java/Text/TextReplace.java I'm running on a spare desktop system, Fedora 21, fresh install, all updates applied. EG: java-1.8.0-openjdk-1.8.0.40-25.b25.fc21.x86_64 libreoffice-core-4.3.6.2-8.fc21.x86_64 libreoffice-writer-4.3.6.2-8.fc21.x86_64 I've successfully modified the script so that it finds and opens the example PDF I'm using, which has been provided to have the same text as the TextReplace.java example. When it opens the file, it's not importing the PDF, instead it's reading it as a text file or something. You can see what this looks like here: (I'm not running headless on purpose) http://hal.schoolpathways.com/libre/screenshot.png Looking at the documentation, it looks like there's an "Arguments" parameter which reads: > "Argumentsthese arguments specify component or filter specific behavior > > For example, "ReadOnly" with a boolean value specifies whether the document > is opened read-only. "FilterName" specifies the component type to create > and the filter to use, for example: "Text - CSV". For more information see > com::sun::star::document::MediaDescriptor." See http://api.libreoffice.org/docs/idl/ref/interfacecom_1_1sun_1_1star_1_1frame_1_1XComponentLoader.html This leads to TypeDetection but I have not figured out how to find out what "FilterName" I should use to specify that I'm importing a PDF. Below is the code fragment that I'm using now. My *guess* is that this line is the culprit: loadProps[0].Value = "X-Application/PDF"; but I can't be sure. I'm guessing the following references are related, but nowhere am I seeing a *list* of import filters that I can use, nor a way to find out what filters are available in my install. http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/document/ImportFilter.html http://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/document/FilterFactory.html Applicable snippet below, the full .java script that I'm using is visible http://hal.schoolpathways.com/libre/TextReplace.java SNIP -- // ORIGINAL EXAMPLE //String sURL = "private:factory/" + sDocumentType; // SEES PDF AS A TEXT DOCUMENT. // String sURL = "file:///home/ben/pdf/example.pdf"; String sURL = "file:///home/ben/pdf/example.pdf"; com.sun.star.lang.XComponent xComponent = null; com.sun.star.frame.XComponentLoader xComponentLoader = null; //com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue xEmptyArgs[] = //new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue[0]; com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue[] loadProps = new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue[3]; loadProps[0] = new com.sun.star.beans.PropertyValue(); loadProps[0].Name = "FilterData"; loadProps[0].Value = "X-Application/PDF"; try { xComponentLoader = UnoRuntime.queryInterface( com.sun.star.frame.XComponentLoader.class, xDesktop); xComponent = xComponentLoader.loadComponentFromURL( sURL, "_blank", 0, loadProps); } SNIP -- Your time and attention are much appreciated. Benjamin Smith -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Font versus Character Substitution
At 13:24 17/04/2015 +, Gary Collins wrote: What I was saying is this: When I change input language, I change it using the keyboard/language selector on the windows taskbar. In the post I was responding to, it was suggested that the language selector button (or whatever it's called) at the bottom of the writer window could be used to change input language. However, when I try to use that button, it doesn't present the range of choices that I have from the Windows taskbar. From the Windows taskbar language icon, I can choose from Russian, Greek (polytonic) or English. From the adjacent keyboard icon (with English language selected) I can choose from United Kingdom, Akkadian United Kingdom Extended or United Kingdom Extended - Latin. From the language button at the bottom of the Writer window, the only choice I have is between English (UK) and English (USA). I don't know if it should offer me the same languages as the windows taskbar, or if its purpose is more limited. These are very different things, I think. You need both. o The keyboard choices you have enabled in Windows (and which can be selected in the Windows taskbar) can indeed be described as "input languages", since they govern the relationship between the keys you press and the corresponding characters that are transmitted to whatever application you are using (or to Windows itself). Changing this choice potentially modifies the character that you will see when you press any key. o Within a text document (e.g. in LibreOffice Writer), you may want to use a spelling checker and a thesaurus and to have automatic hyphenation. To complete any of these tasks, the application needs to know which language you mean the text to be in - and so how to treat it. You may also wish to set the language of some text as "[None]" in order to disable these processes. You can set the language in Writer in various ways, since language is a character property, a character style property, and a paragraph style property (but not a paragraph property, although an entire paragraph can be given a language setting using the character property, of course). The indication in the Status Bar is of the effect of all of these settings on the current selection or at the cursor position. If you, say, wish to start typing in Russian in an otherwise English document, you will need to change keyboard setting in Windows and will also wish to change the language setting in Writer. You can do this through a context menu from the Status Bar indication; you may well see only a couple of languages there, but the full set is available via the More... item - leading to the Font tab of the Character dialogue. You will certainly find Greek and Russian there. Note, though, that you may well prefer to set the language property using either character styles or paragraph styles, rather than using the direct character formatting provided through the Status Bar facility. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: styles and formatting
On 2015/04/16 1:45, Piet van Oostrum wrote: Andreas Sa"ger wrote: > The stylist is accessible through the side bar only. Don't ask me why. > On Mac OS X there still is Format -> Styles and Formatting (Cmd-T). The menu does NOT work, even though it is listed under "Format" AND there is an icon top left side. It ONLY works if you "undock" the side bar, which has to be done EVERY time you start LibreOffice. To me that qualifies as a bug! (and definitely makes me want to go back a version or two) Or am I missing something important here? Thomas -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 10:34:03 -0400 Tanstaafl wrote: Hello Tanstaafl, >What version are you on? This may already be fixed in 4.4.x since 2 4.3.3.2 from the Debian testing repos. So, I'm a bit off the latest. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" If you ain't sticking your knives in me, you will be eventually Monsoon - Robbie Williams -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
Should have mentioned that I originally tested on 4.3.6 which exhibited the problem as described by Tanstaafl. I've subsequently tried it on 4.4.2 and the problem appears fixed. Alex On 17/04/15 14:30, Alex McMurchy wrote: Yes same here. The more discontiguous rows selected - right click is painfully slow to respond selecting subsequent rows is slow to respond Good luck On 17/04/15 11:56, Tanstaafl wrote: Hello, Before I go open a bug (didn't find an existing one), can someone please confirm this for me? Been meaning to do this for a while, but something always got in the way, but it is just started to annoy me even more... I have been experiencing this for some time, and if memory serves it was still a problem on the 4.1.x series... I'm currently on 4.3.6 The problem is in Calc, has to do with selecting discontiguous rows and a subsequent right-click action The more discontiguous rows you select, the slower the right-click is to respond. If one or more can confirm I'll go open a bug for it... Thanks -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
Confirmed. To help testing, the following Basic code selects 500 discontinuous rows. Context menu and tabbing is very slow. > REM * BASIC * > > Sub Main > view = ThisComponent.getCurrentController() > frame = view.getFrame() > rx = ThisComponent.Sheets(0).Rows > rgx = ThisComponent.CreateInstance("com.sun.star.sheet.SheetCellRanges") > for i = 0 to 999 step 2 > r = rx.getByIndex(i) > rgx.addRangeAddress(r.getRangeAddress(), False) > next > frame.activate() > view.select(rgx) > End Sub -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
Sorry - I must have had a blind spot. Just tried with rows, and yes, it does indeed seem to take increasing time as the number of discontiguous rows increases. From: Tanstaafl To: Gary Collins ; Alex McMurchy ; "users@global.libreoffice.org" Cc: "aikempsh...@btinternet.com" Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015, 15:10 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow Hi Gary - but my problem description specifically said ROWS. Interestingly - I hadn't thought to try columns, since the spreadsheet I'm working in I'm only doing the rows, but I can confirm that my problem is ONLY present for ROWS. On 4/17/2015 10:04 AM, Gary Collins wrote: > I've just tried this with a new empty sheet in LO 4.3.2.2 and haven't noticed > anything - right-click seems to respond quite instantly. I have 7 > non-contiguous columns selected - is that enough? Or perhaps it makes a > difference if a fully populated sheet is used. I don't think I've got one > handy here, I'll try when I get home later - but won't be able to post back > for a few days. > /Gary > From: Alex McMurchy > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Cc: aikempsh...@btinternet.com > Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015, 14:30 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous >selection of rows, right-click is very slow > > Yes same here. > > The more discontiguous rows selected - > > right click is painfully slow to respond > selecting subsequent rows is slow to respond > > Good luck > > > > On 17/04/15 11:56, Tanstaafl wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Before I go open a bug (didn't find an existing one), can someone please >> confirm this for me? Been meaning to do this for a while, but something >> always got in the way, but it is just started to annoy me even more... >> >> I have been experiencing this for some time, and if memory serves it was >> still a problem on the 4.1.x series... >> >> I'm currently on 4.3.6 >> >> The problem is in Calc, has to do with selecting discontiguous rows and >> a subsequent right-click action >> >> The more discontiguous rows you select, the slower the right-click is to >> respond. >> >> If one or more can confirm I'll go open a bug for it... >> >> Thanks >> > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
Hi Brad, What version are you on? This may already be fixed in 4.4.x since 2 others with different 4.4.x versions have said they don't see the problem... On 4/17/2015 10:28 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 10:10:30 -0400 > Tanstaafl wrote: > > Hello Tanstaafl, > >> I'm working in I'm only doing the rows, but I can confirm that my >> problem is ONLY present for ROWS. > > It also takes longer for the selected dis-contiguous rows to get > highlighted the more you add. Again, not so for columns. > > I could understand it if the same applied to rows & columns. Weird. > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015 10:10:30 -0400 Tanstaafl wrote: Hello Tanstaafl, >I'm working in I'm only doing the rows, but I can confirm that my >problem is ONLY present for ROWS. It also takes longer for the selected dis-contiguous rows to get highlighted the more you add. Again, not so for columns. I could understand it if the same applied to rows & columns. Weird. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" We don't need no-one to tell us what's right or wrong The Modern World - The Jam -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
Using 4.4.2.2 under Linux Mint 17 the right-click menu appeared immediately when I selected 25 non-contiguous rows. Graham On 17 April 2015 at 16:16, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 4/17/2015 10:12 AM, Pedro wrote: > > Tanstaafl wrote > >> The problem is in Calc, has to do with selecting discontiguous rows and > >> a subsequent right-click action > >> > >> The more discontiguous rows you select, the slower the right-click is to > >> respond. > > > Right click is immediate regardless of the number of discontiguous cells > > > > ROWS. NOT CELLS. AND NOT COLUMNS. > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
Tanstaafl wrote > > ROWS. NOT CELLS. AND NOT COLUMNS. The same applies to selecting rows or columns. No delay. No need to shout. You are being unnecessarily rude. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Please-confirm-Calc-bug-discontiguous-selection-of-rows-right-click-is-very-slow-tp4146530p4146562.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
On 4/17/2015 10:12 AM, Pedro wrote: > Tanstaafl wrote >> The problem is in Calc, has to do with selecting discontiguous rows and >> a subsequent right-click action >> >> The more discontiguous rows you select, the slower the right-click is to >> respond. > Right click is immediate regardless of the number of discontiguous cells ROWS. NOT CELLS. AND NOT COLUMNS. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
Tanstaafl wrote > The problem is in Calc, has to do with selecting discontiguous rows and > a subsequent right-click action > > The more discontiguous rows you select, the slower the right-click is to > respond. Right click is immediate regardless of the number of discontiguous cells selected in my Windows XP Pro x86 SP3 machine (a 7 year "old" Core 2 Duo with 2GB RAM) running LibreOffice 4.4.3.1 Maybe the problem you are experiencing has already been solved? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Please-confirm-Calc-bug-discontiguous-selection-of-rows-right-click-is-very-slow-tp4146530p4146558.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
Hi Gary - but my problem description specifically said ROWS. Interestingly - I hadn't thought to try columns, since the spreadsheet I'm working in I'm only doing the rows, but I can confirm that my problem is ONLY present for ROWS. On 4/17/2015 10:04 AM, Gary Collins wrote: > I've just tried this with a new empty sheet in LO 4.3.2.2 and haven't noticed > anything - right-click seems to respond quite instantly. I have 7 > non-contiguous columns selected - is that enough? Or perhaps it makes a > difference if a fully populated sheet is used. I don't think I've got one > handy here, I'll try when I get home later - but won't be able to post back > for a few days. > /Gary >From: Alex McMurchy > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Cc: aikempsh...@btinternet.com > Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015, 14:30 > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous > selection of rows, right-click is very slow > > Yes same here. > > The more discontiguous rows selected - > > right click is painfully slow to respond > selecting subsequent rows is slow to respond > > Good luck > > > > On 17/04/15 11:56, Tanstaafl wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Before I go open a bug (didn't find an existing one), can someone please >> confirm this for me? Been meaning to do this for a while, but something >> always got in the way, but it is just started to annoy me even more... >> >> I have been experiencing this for some time, and if memory serves it was >> still a problem on the 4.1.x series... >> >> I'm currently on 4.3.6 >> >> The problem is in Calc, has to do with selecting discontiguous rows and >> a subsequent right-click action >> >> The more discontiguous rows you select, the slower the right-click is to >> respond. >> >> If one or more can confirm I'll go open a bug for it... >> >> Thanks >> > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
I've just tried this with a new empty sheet in LO 4.3.2.2 and haven't noticed anything - right-click seems to respond quite instantly. I have 7 non-contiguous columns selected - is that enough? Or perhaps it makes a difference if a fully populated sheet is used. I don't think I've got one handy here, I'll try when I get home later - but won't be able to post back for a few days. /Gary From: Alex McMurchy To: users@global.libreoffice.org Cc: aikempsh...@btinternet.com Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015, 14:30 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow Yes same here. The more discontiguous rows selected - right click is painfully slow to respond selecting subsequent rows is slow to respond Good luck On 17/04/15 11:56, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hello, > > Before I go open a bug (didn't find an existing one), can someone please > confirm this for me? Been meaning to do this for a while, but something > always got in the way, but it is just started to annoy me even more... > > I have been experiencing this for some time, and if memory serves it was > still a problem on the 4.1.x series... > > I'm currently on 4.3.6 > > The problem is in Calc, has to do with selecting discontiguous rows and > a subsequent right-click action > > The more discontiguous rows you select, the slower the right-click is to > respond. > > If one or more can confirm I'll go open a bug for it... > > Thanks > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
Yes same here. The more discontiguous rows selected - right click is painfully slow to respond selecting subsequent rows is slow to respond Good luck On 17/04/15 11:56, Tanstaafl wrote: Hello, Before I go open a bug (didn't find an existing one), can someone please confirm this for me? Been meaning to do this for a while, but something always got in the way, but it is just started to annoy me even more... I have been experiencing this for some time, and if memory serves it was still a problem on the 4.1.x series... I'm currently on 4.3.6 The problem is in Calc, has to do with selecting discontiguous rows and a subsequent right-click action The more discontiguous rows you select, the slower the right-click is to respond. If one or more can confirm I'll go open a bug for it... Thanks -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Font versus Character Substitution
I can get the characters I need from the fonts I have, no problem (usually - there have been glitches). What I was saying is this: When I change input language, I change it using the keyboard/language selector on the windows taskbar. In the post I was responding to, it was suggested that the language selector button (or whatever it's called) at the bottom of the writer window could be used to change input language. However, when I try to use that button, it doesn't present the range of choices that I have from the Windows taskbar. From the Windows taskbar language icon, I can choose from Russian, Greek (polytonic) or English. From the adjacent keyboard icon (with English language selected) I can choose from United Kingdom, Akkadian United Kingdom Extended or United Kingdom Extended - Latin. From the language button at the bottom of the Writer window, the only choice I have is between English (UK) and English (USA). I don't know if it should offer me the same languages as the windows taskbar, or if its purpose is more limited. /Gary From: toki kantoor To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" Sent: Friday, 17 April 2015, 2:38 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Font versus Character Substitution On April 16, 2015 4:44:11 AM PDT, Gary Collins wote: >transcriptions from ancient language scripts. If those languages are not listed in >Settings >Fonts >CTL, or >Settings >Fonts >Western, as appropriate, LibO will not handle them correctly. It will randomly substitute your correct glyph from your correct font, with some strange glyph from who knows where. (It even does that when writing medieval English using thorn, and The other obsolete letters of the English alphabet.) I think Ancient CJKV work fine, provided you have the appropriate font, _and_ the glyphs are in the Unicode Base Plane. (I don't remember if LibO supports non base plane glyphs.) (I don't remember if the mu wang manuscript I was reading in LibO used images, or a font.) I'd suggest filing an rfe for all ancient languages you use, if there is an ISO code for them, and also if they aren't yet supported in settings.. You'll need complete locale data for each language. I'm assuming that there is an ISO-360 code for the language. jonathon -- Multilingual ODF Office Suite Support. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Enforcing Calc sheet protection
Am 17.04.2015 um 00:28 schrieb Andreas Säger: > Am 16.04.2015 um 13:57 schrieb martin f krafft: >> also sprach Andreas Säger [2015-04-16 13:05 +0200]: >>> Sub protectSheets_onSave(ev) >>> eSh = ev.Source.Sheets.createEnumeration() >>> while eSh.hasMoreElements() >>> sh = eSh.nextElement() >>> sh.protect("") >>> wend >>> End Sub >> >> Also does not work. :( >> > > > It DOES work > >> http://www.mediafire.com/view/y98whzbjn2t9q8c/protectSheetsOnSave.ods > > > > > Back to the drawing board. The problem with the example macros that are shipped with the "Tools" library of Open/LibreOffice is as follows: The example macro Tools>Misc>protectSheets is declared as Sub protectSheets(Optional oSheets) When the optional argument is missing it unprotects all the sheets of the current document. The optional argument can be a sheets collection. When you call this macro by means of a push button or some document event (Tools>Customize>Events) the macro gets some event struct argument which is not an array of sheets which triggers the "wrong type of object" errors. - If I had a closer look at the example macro, my first answer would have been this: Sub protectAllSheets() GlobalScope.BasicLibraries.loadLibrary("Tools") Tools.Misc.protectSheets() End Sub This macro calls the example macro Tools.Misc.protectSheets without any argument so it can do its job properly started from an active spreadsheet window. or more explicitly: Sub protectAllSheets() GlobalScope.BasicLibraries.loadLibrary("Tools") Tools.Misc.protectSheets(ThisComponent.Sheets) End Sub passing the sheets collection of ThisComponent. StarBasic's special variable ThisComponent is always the containing document of a macro or the latest active document if the macro is not contained in a document. Second problem with Tools.Misc.protectSheets is the method how it grabs the sheets of the active document when there is no sheet collection passed: oDocSheets = StarDesktop.CurrentFrame.Controller.Model.Sheets The model of the current frame's controller may return the StarBasic-IDE while you are debugging your program. The Basic-IDE has no Sheets and you get a "no such object or method" error. I would prefer this one instead: oDocSheets = ThisComponent.Sheets which would fail if the latest active document is not a spreadsheet document, not counting the IDE. All this trouble with wrong arguments and types is impossible to resolve for the common VBA/Excel programmer which is why I recommend to stay away from all office macros unless you have a certain level of proficiency, meaning that you are capable of systematically debuggig a program and that you are very familiar with the application you are hacking upon. Instead of analysing the LibreOffice.Tools.Misc.unprotectSheets macro, I simply wrote my own version of it presuming that it's called by a document's script event from Tools>Customize, tab:Events. The event passes an event struct having a Source object representing the calling document in any case even when it is not the current controller's model, not ThisComponent, invisible, not yet initialized or otherwise inaccessible by the usual methods. I am pretty sure that my code works under any circumstance and with all the document events availlable (no, I did not test them all). --- And all these lengthy ramblings about the shortcomings and difficulties with Libre/OpenOffice macro programming, why recorded macros don't work, about the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model%E2%80%93view%E2%80%93controller and all the things that should be well known _before_ writing the first macro are a massive waste of time. How many sheets could have been protected manually while writing all this techno rubbish? Right-clickTabs>Select All Sheets. Tools>Protect>Sheets So simple. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Drawing arrows in Writer.
On 4/16/2015 11:57 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote: @Henri, The group selectors for Draw/Impress "Lines and Arrows" and "Connectors" are not currently exposed to Writer. If that piece gets done, then the choice of exposing it on Writer's Drawing toolbar by default or hiding it is negligible. But take your point about exposing by default on the Drawing toolbar for simplicity of use for those not comfortable with doing toolbar customization. Stuart +1 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Enforcing Calc sheet protection
Hi :) Btw to anyone who thinks i might be accusing anyone of being an aspie ... It is not possible to "accuse" someone of being an aspie in much the same way that it's not possible to "accuse" someone of being a super-hero. Many of the aspie traits have an extremely positive and beneficial side. It was/is the aspie/autie traits of people such as Bill Gates, Michelangelo, Einstein, Mozart and many others that made/makes them admirable. Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2015 at 12:18, Tom Davies wrote: > Hi :) > Thanks :) Not everyone realises that and many of us on this mailing list > often do the same as Andreas did too :) > > A lot of people in IT have aspergers syndrome or similar things and we > don't always realise that people might misinterpret things we say. We > often just say exactly what we mean but then people add all sorts of > emotional stuff into it and sometimes even end-up thinking we've said the > reverse of what we really said. > > Even non-Aspies in a lot of areas of IT get used to communicating in much > the same way = just direct and clear with no spin or anything. > > I am kinda hyper-sensitive to things like that and try to help > Neurotypicals (NTs) > http://musingsofanaspie.com/2013/01/10/what-is-neurotypical/ > to understand what was probably meant. I am probably so hyper-sensitive > to it because it is such a nightmare for me to try to get myself understood > by NTs. For many years i just thought certain sorts of people were being > deliberately obtuse but then i found a LOT of other people had the same > problem as me and that it's not something i can fix but is possible to > work-around the most frequent misunderstandings, sometimes. > > Apparently Aspies are so common at Microsoft that their health-care now > includes testing employees children for it, if the employee wants. I > cynically suspect that it is to help spot likely programmers from a MUCH > earlier age but many aspies (and auties) are 'gifted' musicians or amazing > artists instead. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > On 17 April 2015 at 11:35, martin f krafft wrote: > >> also sprach Tom Davies [2015-04-16 21:06 +0200]: >> > I'm not sure that aspect is clear from Andreas' post but he >> > probably didn't mean it to be as rude as it might have sounded. >> > It is just something that could potentially be helpful. >> >> Wait wait, I am a Debian developer for almost 20 years and a FLOSS >> contributor for longer than that, which means two things: I know >> perfectly well how to read messages on mailing lists, and I should >> have done my homework better. >> >> I appreciated Andreas' replies and didn't think they were rude. >> I should have researched this better and provided more information. >> Truth is that I was under time pressure and not particularly excited >> to dive into MacroScript or whatever it's called. >> >> So, no hard feelings. I hope I can catch up and deliver what >> I should have sent in the first place. >> >> -- >> @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ >> >> "a warm bed in a house sounds a mite better >> than eating a hot dog on a stick >> with an old geezer traveling on a lawn mower." >> -- alvin straight (the straight story) >> >> spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net >> > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Enforcing Calc sheet protection
Hi :) Thanks :) Not everyone realises that and many of us on this mailing list often do the same as Andreas did too :) A lot of people in IT have aspergers syndrome or similar things and we don't always realise that people might misinterpret things we say. We often just say exactly what we mean but then people add all sorts of emotional stuff into it and sometimes even end-up thinking we've said the reverse of what we really said. Even non-Aspies in a lot of areas of IT get used to communicating in much the same way = just direct and clear with no spin or anything. I am kinda hyper-sensitive to things like that and try to help Neurotypicals (NTs) http://musingsofanaspie.com/2013/01/10/what-is-neurotypical/ to understand what was probably meant. I am probably so hyper-sensitive to it because it is such a nightmare for me to try to get myself understood by NTs. For many years i just thought certain sorts of people were being deliberately obtuse but then i found a LOT of other people had the same problem as me and that it's not something i can fix but is possible to work-around the most frequent misunderstandings, sometimes. Apparently Aspies are so common at Microsoft that their health-care now includes testing employees children for it, if the employee wants. I cynically suspect that it is to help spot likely programmers from a MUCH earlier age but many aspies (and auties) are 'gifted' musicians or amazing artists instead. Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2015 at 11:35, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Tom Davies [2015-04-16 21:06 +0200]: > > I'm not sure that aspect is clear from Andreas' post but he > > probably didn't mean it to be as rude as it might have sounded. > > It is just something that could potentially be helpful. > > Wait wait, I am a Debian developer for almost 20 years and a FLOSS > contributor for longer than that, which means two things: I know > perfectly well how to read messages on mailing lists, and I should > have done my homework better. > > I appreciated Andreas' replies and didn't think they were rude. > I should have researched this better and provided more information. > Truth is that I was under time pressure and not particularly excited > to dive into MacroScript or whatever it's called. > > So, no hard feelings. I hope I can catch up and deliver what > I should have sent in the first place. > > -- > @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ > > "a warm bed in a house sounds a mite better > than eating a hot dog on a stick > with an old geezer traveling on a lawn mower." > -- alvin straight (the straight story) > > spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow
Hello, Before I go open a bug (didn't find an existing one), can someone please confirm this for me? Been meaning to do this for a while, but something always got in the way, but it is just started to annoy me even more... I have been experiencing this for some time, and if memory serves it was still a problem on the 4.1.x series... I'm currently on 4.3.6 The problem is in Calc, has to do with selecting discontiguous rows and a subsequent right-click action The more discontiguous rows you select, the slower the right-click is to respond. If one or more can confirm I'll go open a bug for it... Thanks -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Casual conversation (was: Re: Enforcing Calc sheet protection)
also sprach Nino Novak [2015-04-17 10:21 +0200]: > But as far as I perceive it, a bunch of subscribers do appreciate > Tom's friendly tone, even if the contents is sometimes not very > helpful. Yes, I would be surprised if there weren't a larger number of people on this list who didn't appreciate his message. > Does anybody know a good solution for this dilemma? Coexist and don't take things personal. And also try to stay away from personal messages yourself. I.e. Tom could have sympathised with me without guessing that I might have thought Andreas was being rude. If you're interested, there is https://people.debian.org/~enrico/dcg/ and there was also recently a fantastic article about how to choose your words on mailing lists, but I am failing to find it. I will follow-up… -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ "oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive. but my how we improve the score, as we practice more and more." -- sir walter scott spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Enforcing Calc sheet protection
also sprach Tom Davies [2015-04-16 21:06 +0200]: > I'm not sure that aspect is clear from Andreas' post but he > probably didn't mean it to be as rude as it might have sounded. > It is just something that could potentially be helpful. Wait wait, I am a Debian developer for almost 20 years and a FLOSS contributor for longer than that, which means two things: I know perfectly well how to read messages on mailing lists, and I should have done my homework better. I appreciated Andreas' replies and didn't think they were rude. I should have researched this better and provided more information. Truth is that I was under time pressure and not particularly excited to dive into MacroScript or whatever it's called. So, no hard feelings. I hope I can catch up and deliver what I should have sent in the first place. -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ "a warm bed in a house sounds a mite better than eating a hot dog on a stick with an old geezer traveling on a lawn mower." -- alvin straight (the straight story) spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Casual conversation
I emphasise that there is no implied or intendedcriticism of Andreas in my previous post. The problem is that Tom is a very social person, and invaluable in not frightening away insecure novices, but perhaps not the best poster when the going gets technical. James -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Casual conversation
On 2015-04-17 10:21, Nino Novak wrote: > On 16.04.2015 at 22:20, Andreas Säger wrote: >> @tom >> >> SHUT UP!!! If you don't have anything to tell. > :-( > > I understand both: > > ... > Another idea could be to ask Andreas to try to ignore Tom's messages, and > ask Tom to try to restrain himself. Does this sound helpful? > It's not going to work in the long run, Nino. There's probably no solution other than letting Andreas blow his top now and then. James -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LO 4.4. crashes reliably on a column sort
http://www.trauma-dissociation.net/misc/_DayPlanner-2015_testpage.ods The file above is a single sheet from a much larger file I use multiple times every day of my life. It will allow replication of the problem. (For some reason, it downloads as read-only, so save a copy and us that, to be able to replicate the issue.) The goal is to reorder some of the rows by sorting on values in a single column, in this case column B: I want to move rows 25-26 up to right above row, 10, so I put a zero in their col. B cell, then do a select of rows 10 to 26, and then key in Alt+D, S. The program will crash reliably. I have reverted to LO 4.3, of necessity, as this issue is a showstopper for me. This issue is not present in LO 4.3 t. -- ~ My life is full of mistakes. They're like pebbles that make a good road. ~ Ceramic artist Beatrice Wood, who practiced her art until she was 103. ~ Tom Cloyd, MS MA LMHC (WA) Psychotherapist (psychological trauma, dissociative disorders) Spokane, Washington, U.S.A: (435) 272-3332 << t...@tomcloyd.com >> (email) << TomCloyd.com >> (website) ~ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installation version chaos
Hi :) Congrats Tom! Nicely done Andreas! Thanks for teaching me something there too Andreas. That is the sort of thing i joined the mailing list for = to learn about practical problems that people who are not experts in LibreOffice (but probably do have expertise elsewhere) could easily run into. Having a couple of generic answers that help solve most things has been good but learning specifics is even better. So, thanks for that :)) Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2015 at 09:20, Andreas Säger wrote: > Problem solved > > > Andreas, > > > > Well, I forgot my final step - change my launch menu LO item to issue > the command "libreoffice4.4 %U" (from "libreoffice4.3 %U".) Fixing that, > all is well. > > > > (That systray autostart thing is long gone on my system!) > > > > My mistake! > > > > Thanks for your quick response, which made me realize instantly what the > problem was. > > > > Warm regard, > > > > Tom Cloyd > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Casual conversation (was: Re: Enforcing Calc sheet protection)
On 16.04.2015 at 22:20, Andreas Säger wrote: > @tom > > SHUT UP!!! If you don't have anything to tell. :-( I understand both: - Andreas, who is a high-level Libre/OpenOffice expert and really needs exact and non-distracting communication and - Tom who is a genius in association and cross-connection but with a high percentage of (sometimes incredibly wrong) guessing Personally, I'm in favour of Andreas' way of communication as I also get distracted too easy by Tom's frequent associations. But as far as I perceive it, a bunch of subscribers do appreciate Tom's friendly tone, even if the contents is sometimes not very helpful. Does anybody know a good solution for this dilemma? The perhaps clearest way would be to set up a list policy, which says that only short answers are allowed, or that only solution suggestions are welcome, which the writer has tested himself - or something similar. But IMHO it's absolutely not easy/trivial to define exactly what is welcome and what not. A different idea could be to split the list into a "first" and "second" level support, with diffrerent list policies (e.g. in list 2 only to-the-point-communication, no distraction allowed). Another idea could be to ask Andreas to try to ignore Tom's messages, and ask Tom to try to restrain himself. Does this sound helpful? Regards, Nino -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Installation version chaos
Problem solved > Andreas, > > Well, I forgot my final step - change my launch menu LO item to issue the > command "libreoffice4.4 %U" (from "libreoffice4.3 %U".) Fixing that, all is > well. > > (That systray autostart thing is long gone on my system!) > > My mistake! > > Thanks for your quick response, which made me realize instantly what the > problem was. > > Warm regard, > > Tom Cloyd -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installation version chaos
Hi :) There's a tiny "gotcha" in there that i only noticed because i have done the same thing myself. It's the . in sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* Try again but this time without the extra * and the . before it; sudo apt-get remove libreoffice* Not all *nix files have a file-ending and dot. It's not like Windows! Windows hides it's .file-endings but almost always relies on them quite heavily. The end-result looks the same but can still trip people up. My pet bug-bear is how to rename a .html into a .txt and such-like but my work-around is to just avoid using Windows and that solves most such problems! Regards from Tom :) On 17 April 2015 at 06:41, Andreas Säger wrote: > Am 17.04.2015 um 06:58 schrieb Tom Cloyd: > > I'm running Kubuntu Linux - latest version, fully updated. > > > > I just downloaded "LibreOffice_4.4.2_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz" and its > > associated helpfile. I removed all other *.tar.gz files from my software > > download archive. > > > > I removed my previous LO installation: sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* > > > > I unpacked each *.tar.gz file and installed it from its respective "DEBS" > > directory: sudo dpkg -i *.deb > > > > I launched my supposed new LO version. > > > > As always with a new install, I immediately check "Help > About..." to > > verify the install, and I get this: > > > > Version: 4.3.5.2 > > Build ID: 3a87456aaa6a95c63eea1c1b3201acedf0751bd5 > > > > Since that's the version I started with, prior to this upgrade attempt, > I'm > > a bit surprised. > > > > That little "download available" icon is in the upper right corner of the > > LO window, as well. > > > > Perhaps there's a problem up in the mothership? > > > > Tom > > > > > > Hi Tom, > Open a terminal and launch /opt/LibreOffice4.4./program/soffice > Watch any output on the terminal. > > Oh, and don't forget to stop any "quick starter" instance of some > LibreOffice installation, particularly while running an installation. I > use to disable this useless anti-feature alltogether > (menu:Tools>Options>Memory>"Systray Quickstart"). > > Greetings, > Andreas Säger > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted