Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow

[Graham Luffrum]

As Andreas writes, it depends on the number of rows.  Originally I tried
with only a small number and it was not a problem.  With 500 there is a
delay of several seconds.  When I tried 5000 Calc froze completely.

On a not completely unrelated topic, it slightly annoys me that when in a
Calc sheet I open the right-click menu and then select "Format" it takes
more than 5 seconds before the format box appears.

Using 4.4.2.2 under Linux Mint 17.

Graham


On 19 April 2015 at 20:20, Andreas Säger  wrote:

> Am 19.04.2015 um 16:01 schrieb Tanstaafl:
> > On 4/19/2015 9:16 AM, Andreas Säger  wrote:
> >> Am 19.04.2015 um 15:05 schrieb Tanstaafl:
> >>> After prior replies, it appears it may still be there in the 4.4.x
> >>> series, but maybe only on Windows.
> >>>
> >>> I'll be installing the latest 4.4 soon, and will test some more before
> >>> opening a bug. Will report back here, and ask others to test a bit more
> >>> and comment, to try to determine
> >>>
> >>> a) if it is indeed still there, and
> >>>
> >>> b) if it is, is it windows only.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks to all for replying...
> >
> >> Same behaviour with
> >> LO 3.5
> >> LO 4.4.2
> >> AOO 4.1.1
> >> tested under Windows (the latter 2) and Linux (all 3).
> >
> > Hmmm... Graham replied that he saw no evidence of the problem on Linux
> > Mint with 4.4.2...
> >
> > Graham? Can you confirm?
> >
>
>
> It really depends on how many rows you have selected.
> And it does not happen with a selection of columns as you can see when
> using my macro with the word Rows replaced with Columns.
>
> With 500 selected rows there is a lag of several seconds.
> With 5000 selected rows the CPU is used up for minutes.
>
>
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[James E Lang]

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Thanks Brian. It looks like Paste in this case is the same as Paste Special 
Calc8. They both retain the colors, some formulas, and spreadsheet context (Row 
& Column identities). 

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-Original Message-
From: Brian Barker 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 23:13
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Table with alternat[]e row color

At 22:51 19/04/2015 -0700, James E Lang wrote:
>Maybe I'm being over sensitive but I sensed hostility in your response to me.

Oh, no: not at all! Sorry you got that impression. Indeed, I was 
surprised that you hadn't explicitly suggested that my rejection of 
the method as a dead duck in my earlier message was wrong. And I 
replied as I assumed that, unlike me, you had made this method work 
and I was genuinely interested to know how.

>I thought this list was one where everyone (expert or novice) shared 
>for the benefit of all.

Of course it is! Let's not change that.

Brian Barker  


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow

[Alex Kempshall]

On Slackware 14.1

My timings are

4.4.2

15 discontiguous rows  - instant response
500 discontiguous rows - about 5 seconds


4.3.6

15 discontiguous rows - about 15 secods
500 discontiguous rows - over 600 seconds and still waiting

Clearly one of the developers has done something which has dramatically 
improved things in Linux world. Whether 5 seconds, in 4.4.2, for 500 
discontiguous rows is acceptable, I'll let others be the judge. If not 
raise a bug to draw out comments from the developers.



Regards



On 19/04/15 19:20, Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 19.04.2015 um 16:01 schrieb Tanstaafl:

On 4/19/2015 9:16 AM, Andreas Säger  wrote:

Am 19.04.2015 um 15:05 schrieb Tanstaafl:

After prior replies, it appears it may still be there in the 4.4.x
series, but maybe only on Windows.

I'll be installing the latest 4.4 soon, and will test some more before
opening a bug. Will report back here, and ask others to test a bit more
and comment, to try to determine

a) if it is indeed still there, and

b) if it is, is it windows only.

Thanks to all for replying...

Same behaviour with
LO 3.5
LO 4.4.2
AOO 4.1.1
tested under Windows (the latter 2) and Linux (all 3).

Hmmm... Graham replied that he saw no evidence of the problem on Linux
Mint with 4.4.2...

Graham? Can you confirm?



It really depends on how many rows you have selected.
And it does not happen with a selection of columns as you can see when
using my macro with the word Rows replaced with Columns.

With 500 selected rows there is a lag of several seconds.
With 5000 selected rows the CPU is used up for minutes.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow

[Tanstaafl]

On 4/19/2015 2:02 PM, Kolbjørn Stuestøl  wrote:
> But, if I selects the entire rows by clicking on the row numbers at the 
> left side, the Windows 8.1 computer running LO 4.3.4.1 (laptop) slows 
> down. Perhaps something to do with the computer?

Ummm...

Clicking on the ROW NUMBER is precisely what is meant by 'selecting a row'.

If you were just selecting discontiguous CELLS, then you were not
testing the bug.

So, it sounds like you are confirming the problem?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow

[Tanstaafl]

On 4/19/2015 2:20 PM, Andreas Säger  wrote:
> With 500 selected rows there is a lag of several seconds.

For me, if I only have 15 or 20 discontiguous rows selected, the delay
can be 10+ seconds.

> With 5000 selected rows the CPU is used up for minutes.

Haven't bothered testing even close to that many - no need, I already
confirmed - for me - that the more you select, the slower it gets.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Please confirm Calc bug - discontiguous selection of rows, right-click is very slow

[Tanstaafl]

On 4/20/2015 3:04 AM, Graham Luffrum  wrote:
> As Andreas writes, it depends on the number of rows.  Originally I tried
> with only a small number and it was not a problem.  With 500 there is a
> delay of several seconds.  When I tried 5000 Calc froze completely.

Sounds like maybe the problem is more evident on Windows.

I just tested a little more, and, just selecting every other row:

 - with 10 selected, the delay is about 4 seconds
 - with 20 selected, the delay increased to about 20 seconds

This is on a Win7 64bit, Intel Core-i5-4670S, 8GB RAM, running on an SSD.

> On a not completely unrelated topic, it slightly annoys me that when in a
> Calc sheet I open the right-click menu and then select "Format" it takes
> more than 5 seconds before the format box appears.

Interesting - I saw maybe a 2 second delay the first time I just tested,
then tried a bunch more times with many variations of the number of
cells selected, and each time it opened almost immediately (within a
second)...

I tested on a blank spreadsheet, and one of our internal ones that has a
bit of data on it, as well as 15+ worksheet tabs. Maybe that one is
linux only, or has something to do with the type of content?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [LibreOffice Writer] Table with alternat[]e row color

[Andrew Douglas Pitonyak]

On 04/19/2015 07:22 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 14:10 15/04/2015 +0200, Alain Ronly wrote:
I'm looking for a simple and automatic way how to tell to my tables 
in a writer document, to be formatted with alternat[]e rows color for 
example even rows will be blue in the background and odd rows will 
have a light blue as background color. I did not find any easy way to 
do it. Is there someone who has already solved this topic ?


Not me.

o Once you have set the background colour for one row, you can use the 
Format Paintbrush to paint the same colour on other rows. If you 
double-click the button, you can drag the "paint bucket" across 
alternate rows to achieve one colour and then repeat the process for 
the other colour.


o For large numbers of rows, you can copy an entire existing table and 
paste it immediately following - and you can repeat that process. 
You'll end up with multiple tables, but that may suffice, providing 
you delete the empty paragraph between them. If you need to, you can 
put the cursor into the second table and go to Table | Merge Tables 
(or right-click | Merge Tables) to merge the two tables into one.


o It is somewhat easier to set up such background colouring in a 
spreadsheet than in a Writer table. If you colour two rows you can 
easily copy them to two more. Then you can copy four rows to create 
eight in total. With this binary multiplication, you can very quickly 
achieve the desired size. If you then copy an appropriately-sized 
section of the spreadsheet and paste it into your text document using 
Paste Special... and "HTML (HyperText Markup Language)" you will get a 
table with the same background formatting. The table properties can be 
adjusted as necessary.


o The automatic way to colour spreadsheet rows alternately is to use 
Conditional Formatting and create a formula using the ROW() function 
to determine the oddness or evenness of the row number and control the 
background colouring using cell styles. But unfortunately - and as you 
might expect - the effect of such formatting is lost if you paste a 
copy into a text document as a table. So that's a dead duck.


o It's probably much easier to set up formatting such as this before 
you insert your data. If necessary, you should be able to copy any 
existing material and paste it into a new, formatted table.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


I wrote a macro some years back and I still use it today. You probably 
have no interest in the part that sets the borders...


Sub FormatTable(Optional oUseTable)
  Dim oTable
  Dim oCell
  Dim nRow As Long
  Dim nCol As Long

  If IsMissing(oUseTable) Then
oTable = ThisComponent.CurrentController.getViewCursor().TextTable
  Else
oTable = oUseTable
  End If
  If IsNull(oTable) OR IsEmpty(oTable) Then
Print "FormatTable: No table specified"
Exit Sub
  End If

  Dim v
  Dim x
  v = oTable.TableBorder
  x = v.TopLine
  x.OuterLineWidth = 2
  v.TopLine = x

  x = v.LeftLine
  x.OuterLineWidth = 2
  v.LeftLine = x

  x = v.RightLine
  x.OuterLineWidth = 2
  v.RightLine = x

  x = v.TopLine
  x.OuterLineWidth = 2
  v.TopLine = x

  x = v.VerticalLine
  x.OuterLineWidth = 2
  v.VerticalLine = x

  x = v.HorizontalLine
  x.OuterLineWidth = 0
  v.HorizontalLine = x

  x = v.BottomLine
  x.OuterLineWidth = 2
  v.BottomLine = x

  'v.Distance = 51

  oTable.TableBorder = v

  For nRow = 0 To oTable.getRows().getCount() - 1
For nCol = 0 To oTable.getColumns().getCount() - 1
  oCell = oTable.getCellByPosition(nCol, nRow)
  If nRow = 0 Then
oCell.BackColor = 128
SetParStyle(oCell.getText(), "OOoTableHeader")
  Else
SetParStyle(oCell.getText(), "OOoTableText")
If nRow MOD 2 = 1 Then
  oCell.BackColor = -1
Else
  REM color is (230, 230, 230)
  oCell.BackColor = 15132390
End If
  End If
Next
  Next
End Sub

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My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php


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Re: [libreoffice-users] [LibreOffice Writer] Table with alternat[]e row color

[Piet van Oostrum]

I din't remember if this has already been mentioned in this thread, but you can 
do this simply with an Autoformat.

Just take 3 rows of your table (or create a special table for this). Then color 
the rows alternatively. Or you can color the header row with a different color 
if so desired. Then select these 3 rows and click "Table -> AutoFormat". Click 
"Add"" and give your autoformat a name. 
Then select the table to be formatted and Autoformat it with the newly created 
AutoFormat. You can indicate if you want a header row.

You can also create the AutoFormat in a Calc spreadsheet, but there you need at 
least a 3x3 rectangle. In a Writer table you only need at least 3 rows.

It is also possible to do striped columns, then you would need at least 3 
columns.

Some Caveats:
1. In Calc If you give the new AutoFormat a name that lexicographically sorts 
before "Default", e.g. when it starts with A, B or C, then it just disappears. 
In Writer that is not the case.

2. If you later insert or delete an odd number of rows from the table, they 
will no longer be alternatively colored. You will have to re-apply the format.

3. An autoformat has a column header (the first row) that you can disable when 
applying the AutoFormat. It also has a totals row at the bottom, and a rows 
header column and a totals column at the right that you cannot disable (This is 
a design error). If you don't color your columns differently the row header and 
Totals columns are no problem. But the Totals row always gets the color of the 
last row in the AutoFormat, and so if your AutoFormat has an even number of 
rows (excluding a possible header row), and your table has an odd number of 
rows, or vice versa, then the last row will get the wrong color. You can 
correct this by creating the table with one row more, and then deleting the 
last row. If you would have striped columns, I guess the same will happen in 
the other direction, but I haven't tried.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Writer 4.4, black backgroung & above paragraph space

[V Stuart Foote]

@andrea.olivotto

andrea.olivotto wrote
> ...
> Hope you can see the image attached here below.

The ML do not accept image attachments, instead use the  Nabble

  
web interface to the list, log-in, and upload an image for linkage there. 
We'll have a look.

 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [LibreOffice Writer] Table with alternat[]e row color

[Brian Barker]

At 14:59 20/04/2015 +0200, Piet van Oostrum wrote:
I din't remember if this has already been mentioned in this thread, 
but you can do this simply with an Autoformat.


Just take 3 rows of your table (or create a special table for this). 
Then color the rows alternatively. Or you can color the header row 
with a different color if so desired. Then select these 3 rows and 
click "Table -> AutoFormat". Click "Add"" and give your autoformat a name.
Then select the table to be formatted and Autoformat it with the 
newly created AutoFormat. You can indicate if you want a header row.


Aha: the perfect answer!

Brian Barker 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Writer 4.4, black backgroung & above paragraph space

[V Stuart Foote]

@Andrea,

> From: andrea.olivotto
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 9:06 AM 
> To: V Stuart Foote 
> Subject: Rif: [libreoffice-users] Re: Writer 4.4, black backgroung & above
> paragraph space
>  
> Thanks Stuart for your reply.
> Anyway, the screenshot is not too much important, I hope the issue
> description is clear.
> 
> Hope you can identify and solve the issue. This prevent us to upgrade to
> the newer version of Writer.
> 
> Thanks in advance.

Yes there seems to be is a residual issue to work done for tdf#82661, but it
is a bit of a corner case

Have opened BZ issued  tdf#90744
   -- Paragraph
style with Area fill set Black incorrectly draws fill into Space Above

Please log-in and follow the BZ issue, make sure the test document I
provided matches your issue.

For now, if you simply *change the Area fill color* for your Title1 from
Black to any other color, I believe  you will have desired formatting.   Do
so from the Context menu "edit paragraph style", or from the Sidebar  ->
Styles and Formatting content panel and Modify the Title1  style object.

Stuart



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Re: [libreoffice-users] [LibreOffice Writer] Table with alternat[]e row color

[James E Lang]

Thank you Andrew. That looks like it's a full answer to the question. I have 
learned something from this. I might not use it often but I now have it in my 
bag of tools and who knows 

-- 
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-Original Message-
From: Andrew Pitonyak 
To: "James E. Lang" 
Sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 11:40
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [LibreOffice Writer] Table with alternat[]e 
row color

On 20.04.2015 10:03, James E. Lang wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> This message is off list for technical reasons.

No problem, especially for this type of question :-)

>
> As I stated in a message that I posted to the list yesterday, I don't
> do a lot of work with
> LibreOffice Writer. That said, I tried your macro and it choked
> (Sub-procedure or function
> procedure not defined) on this line:
>
> SetParStyle(oCell.getText(), "OOoTableHeader")


Yeah, sorry about that. What this is doing is setting the first row to 
use the paragraph style named "OOoTableHeader". I don't know if you have 
seen any of my documents, but it is how I format my text tables in 
general. You can comment out that line, or, change "OOoTableHeader" to 
be the paragraph style that you want to use.

There is another line below it

SetParStyle(oCell.getText(), "OOoTableText")

This sets all of the other lines to use the paragraph style 
"OOoTableText", which is probably a paragraph style that you do not have 
if you do not write documentation for LibreOffice.

Comment out these two lines by placing a single quote before them or 
the text REM as follows:

'SetParStyle(oCell.getText(), "OOoTableText")
REM SetParStyle(oCell.getText(), "OOoTableText")



>
> Is this because I don't have the jre installed or is there something
> else that is required
> (defining the UNO interface maybe?) beyond the Sub you posted?
>
> My Macros=>Standard=>Module1 contains only the empty Sub Main, three
> pure Basic (UNO
> free) functions that I wrote for a spreadsheet, and your Sub
> FormatTable which I copied from
> the eMail and pasted into the module.
>
> --
> Jim
>
> On 20 Apr 2015 at 8:03, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
>
>> I wrote a macro some years back and I still use it today. You 
>> probably
>> have no interest in the part that sets the borders...
>>
>> Sub FormatTable(Optional oUseTable)
>>Dim oTable
>>Dim oCell
>>Dim nRow As Long
>>Dim nCol As Long
>>
>>If IsMissing(oUseTable) Then
>>  oTable = 
>> ThisComponent.CurrentController.getViewCursor().TextTable
>>Else
>>  oTable = oUseTable
>>End If
>>If IsNull(oTable) OR IsEmpty(oTable) Then
>>  Print "FormatTable: No table specified"
>>  Exit Sub
>>End If
>>
>>Dim v
>>Dim x
>>v = oTable.TableBorder
>>x = v.TopLine
>>x.OuterLineWidth = 2
>>v.TopLine = x
>>
>>x = v.LeftLine
>>x.OuterLineWidth = 2
>>v.LeftLine = x
>>
>>x = v.RightLine
>>x.OuterLineWidth = 2
>>v.RightLine = x
>>
>>x = v.TopLine
>>x.OuterLineWidth = 2
>>v.TopLine = x
>>
>>x = v.VerticalLine
>>x.OuterLineWidth = 2
>>v.VerticalLine = x
>>
>>x = v.HorizontalLine
>>x.OuterLineWidth = 0
>>v.HorizontalLine = x
>>
>>x = v.BottomLine
>>x.OuterLineWidth = 2
>>v.BottomLine = x
>>
>>'v.Distance = 51
>>
>>oTable.TableBorder = v
>>
>>For nRow = 0 To oTable.getRows().getCount() - 1
>>  For nCol = 0 To oTable.getColumns().getCount() - 1
>>oCell = oTable.getCellByPosition(nCol, nRow)
>>If nRow = 0 Then
>>  oCell.BackColor = 128
>>  SetParStyle(oCell.getText(), "OOoTableHeader")
>>Else
>>  SetParStyle(oCell.getText(), "OOoTableText")
>>  If nRow MOD 2 = 1 Then
>>oCell.BackColor = -1
>>  Else
>>REM color is (230, 230, 230)
>>oCell.BackColor = 15132390
>>  End If
>>End If
>>  Next
>>Next
>> End Sub
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Pitonyak

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