[libreoffice-users] Re: [Calc, LibO 4.4] Bug on .ODS to .XLSX file conversion?

[m.a.riosv]

I think Piet have pointed to the source of the problem.

Seems in several sheet there are cells formatted out data range. Sheet
'Análisis Pisos' seems empty but has a lot of empty comments, better delete
the sheet.

For a first cleaning, to do in every sheet:

- Ctrl+End goes to bottom-right corner of range with data in a sheet.
- Use Ctrl-M to clear any direct format for the columns right and rows down
of it.

Miguel Ángel.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Calc, LibO 4.4] Bug on .ODS to .XLSX file conversion?

[Piet van Oostrum]

Cley Faye wrote:

 > That's interesting. Examining the beginning of one of the "big" sheets in
 > both case, we see that LibreOffice is *very* verbose with what it save. If
 > I understand it correctly, LO save informations about *every* cells,
 > including empty ones. Which is very odd, since it does not do it with
 > *every* sheets.
 
Yes, I also looked at it, I inspected sheet 7 (and it brought my computer to a 
grinding halt).
It contains all the cells until column IW, which is 231 columns!
As this sheet has 10423 rows, that is a lot of data. 

So the question is: why did it not optimize away the empty cells?
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Re: [libreoffice-users] column limit in libreoffice 4.3.something

[James E Lang]

I am using LO version 4.3.5.2.

Its spreadsheet size is "limited" to 1G cells (1K columns by 1M rows) per 
sheet. I don't know how many sheets are allowed. YMMV but I know that these 
spreadsheet size limits are currently quite sufficient for my needs. I also 
know that I currently have no desire to use anything bigger since the speed of 
adding a data value in a single cell at a time was abysmal when I had 4K rows 
on each of four sheets and used less than 100 columns on any single sheet. I 
trimmed the document back to about 1200 rows per sheet for now but I expect it 
will grow to between 4000 and 5000 by the end of the year when I'll start a 
fresh document with a couple hundred rows. 

Of course much of the processing time was most likely spent evaluating some 
reasonably (or maybe unreasonably) complex formulas. I'm working on formula 
simplification but this is difficult since I often make use of the OFFSET() 
function to reference dynamically defined ranges of cells.

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To: users@global.libreoffice.org
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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] column limit in libreoffice 4.3.something

On 23-4-2015 20:39, yahoo-pier_andreit wrote:
> today I encountered a problem opening an excel file with libreoffice
> 4.3.something regarding maximum number of column, why number of columns
> is so low in libreoffice ???
> many thanks, ciao :-) pier
>

- Please, define 'so low'

i see 1024 columns in 4.4.something and also in 4.1.something

- Please, share COMPLETE (version) info, or nothing if you are too lazy 
to find out ;)





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Calc, LibO 4.4] Bug on .ODS to .XLSX file conversion?

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Good work there.  Thanks for taking it to the next level Cley!  Nicely done
:)

Posting a bug-report might be a good idea?  Ramon can you do that?
Regards from
Tom :)



On 23 April 2015 at 21:45, Cley Faye  wrote:

> That's interesting. Examining the beginning of one of the "big" sheets in
> both case, we see that LibreOffice is *very* verbose with what it save. If
> I understand it correctly, LO save informations about *every* cells,
> including empty ones. Which is very odd, since it does not do it with
> *every* sheets.
>
> This does not explain why MSO have to "repair" the files though. Maybe the
> devs would be interested in this test case.
>
> --
> Cley Faye
> http://cleyfaye.net
>
>



> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 23 April 2015 at 15:03, RamonTavarez <[hidden email]
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I've experienced the following issue:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The file attached is an .ODS file (1,976 KB).  When seved as
> .XLSX
> > > > >>> file it
> > > > >>> expands to more than 15 MB.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> If the new .XLSX files is oppened with MSOffice 2013 it will ask
> for
> > > > >>> recovery of information within the file,  after that if we save
> the
> > > > >>> recovered file to the same file type (.XLSX) the file shrinks to
> > > > >>>2,393KB.
> > > > >>> Why?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> OBRA_CIVIL_TERMINACION_ESTACION_Y_MODULO_ENTRADA_EST_21_LINEA_2B_abril_2015.ods
> > >
> > > > >>> <
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4147038/OBRA_CIVIL_TERMINACION_ESTACION_Y_MODULO_ENTRADA_EST_21_LINEA_2B_abril_2015.ods
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>> View this message in context:
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Calc-LibO-4-4-Bug-on-ODS-to-XLSX-file-conversion-tp4147038.html
>
>



>
> > >
> >
> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Calc-LibO-4-4-Bug-on-ODS-to-XLSX-file-conversion-tp4147038p4147063.html
> > >
>



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Calc, LibO 4.4] Bug on .ODS to .XLSX file conversion?

[Cley Faye]

That's interesting. Examining the beginning of one of the "big" sheets in
both case, we see that LibreOffice is *very* verbose with what it save. If
I understand it correctly, LO save informations about *every* cells,
including empty ones. Which is very odd, since it does not do it with
*every* sheets.

This does not explain why MSO have to "repair" the files though. Maybe the
devs would be interested in this test case.

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2015-04-23 20:12 GMT+02:00 RamonTavarez :

> Check the post,  I've uploaded the requested file.
>
> Thanks for your interest.
>
> Regards
>
> *Ramón E. Tavárez B.*
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Cley Faye [via Document Foundation Mail
> Archive]  wrote:
>
> > Discussion about open formats aside, I've looked at the file and it looks
> > like when saving as xlsx each sheet grow huge (some goes to ~20MB before
> > compression).
> >
> > Could you also post the xlsx file obtained when saving with MSO, for
> > comparison? My guess is that either LO saves *a lot* of empty/dummy
> cells,
> > or that it saves in an older xlsx format that is less compact.
> >
> > btw this is only a "by curiosity" request, but it could help the dev
> > pinpoint an issue if my first guess is correct.
> >
> > --
> > Cley Faye
> > http://cleyfaye.net
> >
> > 2015-04-23 17:28 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies <[hidden email]
> > >:
> >
> > > Hi :)
> > > Yeh, i don't know a good way around that :(  other than the way you
> > already
> > > use! :))
> > >
> > >
> > > People used to be quite happy with the idea of downloading Adobe
> Acrobat
> > to
> > > read Pdfs with.  It used to be that almost any website that shared any
> > kind
> > > of document tended to only have them as Pdfs and also then 'had to'
> have
> > a
> > > button to help people download and install an Adobe Pdf Reader.  We
> > hardly
> > > see any of that these days but that is quite a recent change.
> > >
> > > There were objections from people working in the council, or other
> > > government offices or in big companies that they couldn't install
> > anything
> > > and thus couldn't use the format that everyone else seemed to be using
> > so
> > > much.  Now they seem to use Pdf more than everyone else, and even
> demand
> > > that other people use it!
> > >
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 23 April 2015 at 16:08, Ramon Tavarez <[hidden email]
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your attention.
> > > >
> > > > The fact with this file is that can't be supported by .XLS format,
> and
> > my
> > > > coworkers doesn't work with LibO, and that is the only way I can use
> > to
> > > > "keep in touch" with them and their jobs. It may be a pain .. ... ...
> > ,
> > > > but while it work I'll keep using this method to share my jobs with
> > them!
> > > >
> > > > In  use LibO for every document  I  create, even I update every
> > version
> > > of
> > > > LibO  as the module for my Linux distro: Porteus.
> > > >
> > > > On the other hand,I can understand the situation with MSOffice and
> how
> > > > they refuse the OpenDocument formats, but I still worry about   the
> > big
> > > >  file size for those files not supported by the "classical" file
> type.
> > > >
> > > > This can lead erroneously, as you said,  to people to believe that
> > > > everyone else made bad spreadsheet programs and everyone should stick
> > > with
> > > > MS.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > *Ramón E. Tavárez B.*
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Tom Davies <[hidden email]
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi :)
> > > >> The XlsX, and other OOXML formats are notoriously unreliable.  Each
> > > >> different version of MS Office uses slightly different versions.
> > There
> > > are
> > > >> at least 3 different "transitional" versions of the format and they
> > are
> > > not
> > > >> always compatible with each other.
> > > >>
> > > >> If you take the XlsX that was saved by MS Office 2013 and try
> opening
> > it
> > > >> in another version of MS Office, say 2010 or 2007, or even 365 then
> > you
> > > may
> > > >> well find it's been opened in "Compatibility Mode" or even that it
> > > doesn't
> > > >> work at all in extreme cases.  Chances are that some things will
> have
> > > moved
> > > >> around or vanished, especially if you have anything in a frame (such
> > as
> > > >> images).
> > > >>
> > > >> It makes a bit of sense that a file created with newer software
> might
> > > not
> > > >> fare too well on older versions of the same program but with XlsX
> and
> > > the
> > > >> other OOXML formats it even seems to happen the other way around.
> > Save
> > > a
> > > >> file in MS Office 2007 and you get the same problems trying to open
> > that
> > > >> file in more recent versions of MS Office.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 

Re: [libreoffice-users] open files

[Brad Rogers]

On Fri, 24 Apr 2015 03:52:24 +0900
Thomas Blasejewicz  wrote:

Hello Thomas,

>With a new computer running Windows8.1 I noticed, that files DO NOT open
>any longer,
>when I (double) click on their names or select them and hit ENTER
>... as it used to work with all other computers / OSs in the past.

The clue is ".. a new computer.."

Chances are that .odf files aren't being associated with LibreOffice so
Windows doesn't know what to do with them when you double click.  IDK how
to associate file types with an app in Windows, but it's probably a
right click operation.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] open files

[Brian Barker]

At 03:52 24/04/2015 +0900, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Probably another stupid question.


There are no stupid questions.

With a new computer running Windows8.1 I noticed, that files DO NOT 
open any longer, when I (double) click on their names or select them 
and hit ENTER ... as it used to work with all other computers / OSs 
in the past. I DO HAVE to open Writer, Calc or whatever and then use 
the "open" command from within the software.


Like any application, LibreOffice cannot get involved until it is 
started. It's up to your operating system to start whatever 
application you want to use when you double-click a document file. 
LibreOffice will have set "associations" for .odt, .ods, etc. file 
types in your operating system when you installed it; you may or may 
not have accepted its offer to set associations for .doc, .xls, etc. 
file types.



Is that something peculiar to Windows?


No.


Or another so-called "improvement" like the disabling of the styles menu?


No.


Can I change this behavior?


Yes. One way is to run the LibreOffice installation again, this time 
accepting the offer to set associations for Microsoft Office document 
file types (if that is your problem). Otherwise, you can set 
associations individually and manually. See
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/windows-8/choose-programs-windows-uses-default 
.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] column limit in libreoffice 4.3.something

[Luuk]

On 23-4-2015 20:39, yahoo-pier_andreit wrote:

today I encountered a problem opening an excel file with libreoffice
4.3.something regarding maximum number of column, why number of columns
is so low in libreoffice ???
many thanks, ciao :-) pier



- Please, define 'so low'

i see 1024 columns in 4.4.something and also in 4.1.something

- Please, share COMPLETE (version) info, or nothing if you are too lazy 
to find out ;)






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[libreoffice-users] open files

[Thomas Blasejewicz]

Good evening
Probably another stupid question.

With a new computer running Windows8.1 I noticed, that files DO NOT open
any longer,
when I (double) click on their names or select them and hit ENTER
... as it used to work with all other computers / OSs in the past.

I DO HAVE to open Writer, Calc or whatever and then use the "open"
command from within the software.

Is that something peculiar to Windows?
Or another so-called "improvement" like the disabling of the styles menu?
Can I change this behavior?

Thank you.
Thomas

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[libreoffice-users] column limit in libreoffice 4.3.something

[yahoo-pier_andreit]

today I encountered a problem opening an excel file with libreoffice 
4.3.something regarding maximum number of column, why number of columns 
is so low in libreoffice ???

many thanks, ciao :-) pier

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Re: [libreoffice-users] display

[Thomas Blasejewicz]

On 2015/04/23 23:06, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote:
Screen tearing issue with NVidia may be resolved by changing Vertical 
Sync to Adaptive.


Start video at  URL below at 40 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFRpnQ09_LA

The video is from 2013 and may not quite match, but you get the idea.

Hope this helps.


On 4/22/2015 11:17 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:


Computer: just bought a new one, running Windows 8.1 (= a nightmare!!!),
8 GB RAM, 120 GB SSD = OS + 1 TB HDD
and probably a whole lot of fancy high-tech stuff I not capable of
understanding.




Am I correct assuming, that this applies ONLY to NVidia graphic cards?
My computer has an "Intel HD Graphics 4600" and I cannot find anywhere a 
setting called "vertical sync"

Thomas


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[libreoffice-users] Re: [Calc, LibO 4.4] Bug on .ODS to .XLSX file conversion?

[RamonTavarez]

Check the post,  I've uploaded the requested file.

Thanks for your interest.

Regards

*Ramón E. Tavárez B.*

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Cley Faye [via Document Foundation Mail
Archive]  wrote:

> Discussion about open formats aside, I've looked at the file and it looks
> like when saving as xlsx each sheet grow huge (some goes to ~20MB before
> compression).
>
> Could you also post the xlsx file obtained when saving with MSO, for
> comparison? My guess is that either LO saves *a lot* of empty/dummy cells,
> or that it saves in an older xlsx format that is less compact.
>
> btw this is only a "by curiosity" request, but it could help the dev
> pinpoint an issue if my first guess is correct.
>
> --
> Cley Faye
> http://cleyfaye.net
>
> 2015-04-23 17:28 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies <[hidden email]
> >:
>
> > Hi :)
> > Yeh, i don't know a good way around that :(  other than the way you
> already
> > use! :))
> >
> >
> > People used to be quite happy with the idea of downloading Adobe Acrobat
> to
> > read Pdfs with.  It used to be that almost any website that shared any
> kind
> > of document tended to only have them as Pdfs and also then 'had to' have
> a
> > button to help people download and install an Adobe Pdf Reader.  We
> hardly
> > see any of that these days but that is quite a recent change.
> >
> > There were objections from people working in the council, or other
> > government offices or in big companies that they couldn't install
> anything
> > and thus couldn't use the format that everyone else seemed to be using
> so
> > much.  Now they seem to use Pdf more than everyone else, and even demand
> > that other people use it!
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 23 April 2015 at 16:08, Ramon Tavarez <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi:
> > >
> > > Thanks for your attention.
> > >
> > > The fact with this file is that can't be supported by .XLS format, and
> my
> > > coworkers doesn't work with LibO, and that is the only way I can use
> to
> > > "keep in touch" with them and their jobs. It may be a pain .. ... ...
> ,
> > > but while it work I'll keep using this method to share my jobs with
> them!
> > >
> > > In  use LibO for every document  I  create, even I update every
> version
> > of
> > > LibO  as the module for my Linux distro: Porteus.
> > >
> > > On the other hand,I can understand the situation with MSOffice and how
> > > they refuse the OpenDocument formats, but I still worry about   the
> big
> > >  file size for those files not supported by the "classical" file type.
> > >
> > > This can lead erroneously, as you said,  to people to believe that
> > > everyone else made bad spreadsheet programs and everyone should stick
> > with
> > > MS.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > *Ramón E. Tavárez B.*
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Tom Davies <[hidden email]
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi :)
> > >> The XlsX, and other OOXML formats are notoriously unreliable.  Each
> > >> different version of MS Office uses slightly different versions.
> There
> > are
> > >> at least 3 different "transitional" versions of the format and they
> are
> > not
> > >> always compatible with each other.
> > >>
> > >> If you take the XlsX that was saved by MS Office 2013 and try opening
> it
> > >> in another version of MS Office, say 2010 or 2007, or even 365 then
> you
> > may
> > >> well find it's been opened in "Compatibility Mode" or even that it
> > doesn't
> > >> work at all in extreme cases.  Chances are that some things will have
> > moved
> > >> around or vanished, especially if you have anything in a frame (such
> as
> > >> images).
> > >>
> > >> It makes a bit of sense that a file created with newer software might
> > not
> > >> fare too well on older versions of the same program but with XlsX and
> > the
> > >> other OOXML formats it even seems to happen the other way around.
> Save
> > a
> > >> file in MS Office 2007 and you get the same problems trying to open
> that
> > >> file in more recent versions of MS Office.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> MS keep the specs for their formats secret.  There is an ISO
> definition
> > >> of OOXML but that doesn't seem to work in any version of MS Office.
> MSO
> > >> 2013 was the first that allowed people to save in "strict" but the
> > >> resultant files don't seem to be able to be opened in any version of
> MS
> > >> Office.
> > >>
> > >> So pretty much all programs struggle with trying to read or write
> XlsX
> > or
> > >> other OOXML files in any reliable way.  Which version of MS Office
> > should
> > >> they aim for?
> > >>
> > >> Actually we had a few times where the LibreOffice user in an office
> has
> > >> been the only person able to open files from colleagues using
> different
> > >> versions of MS Office and has then become a kinda stepping stone for
> > >> sharing fil

Re: [libreoffice-users] [Calc, LibO 4.4] Bug on .ODS to .XLSX file conversion?

[Cley Faye]

Discussion about open formats aside, I've looked at the file and it looks
like when saving as xlsx each sheet grow huge (some goes to ~20MB before
compression).

Could you also post the xlsx file obtained when saving with MSO, for
comparison? My guess is that either LO saves *a lot* of empty/dummy cells,
or that it saves in an older xlsx format that is less compact.

btw this is only a "by curiosity" request, but it could help the dev
pinpoint an issue if my first guess is correct.

-- 
Cley Faye
http://cleyfaye.net

2015-04-23 17:28 GMT+02:00 Tom Davies :

> Hi :)
> Yeh, i don't know a good way around that :(  other than the way you already
> use! :))
>
>
> People used to be quite happy with the idea of downloading Adobe Acrobat to
> read Pdfs with.  It used to be that almost any website that shared any kind
> of document tended to only have them as Pdfs and also then 'had to' have a
> button to help people download and install an Adobe Pdf Reader.  We hardly
> see any of that these days but that is quite a recent change.
>
> There were objections from people working in the council, or other
> government offices or in big companies that they couldn't install anything
> and thus couldn't use the format that everyone else seemed to be using so
> much.  Now they seem to use Pdf more than everyone else, and even demand
> that other people use it!
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On 23 April 2015 at 16:08, Ramon Tavarez  wrote:
>
> > Hi:
> >
> > Thanks for your attention.
> >
> > The fact with this file is that can't be supported by .XLS format, and my
> > coworkers doesn't work with LibO, and that is the only way I can use to
> > "keep in touch" with them and their jobs. It may be a pain .. ... ... ,
> > but while it work I'll keep using this method to share my jobs with them!
> >
> > In  use LibO for every document  I  create, even I update every version
> of
> > LibO  as the module for my Linux distro: Porteus.
> >
> > On the other hand,I can understand the situation with MSOffice and how
> > they refuse the OpenDocument formats, but I still worry about   the big
> >  file size for those files not supported by the "classical" file type.
> >
> > This can lead erroneously, as you said,  to people to believe that
> > everyone else made bad spreadsheet programs and everyone should stick
> with
> > MS.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > *Ramón E. Tavárez B.*
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi :)
> >> The XlsX, and other OOXML formats are notoriously unreliable.  Each
> >> different version of MS Office uses slightly different versions.  There
> are
> >> at least 3 different "transitional" versions of the format and they are
> not
> >> always compatible with each other.
> >>
> >> If you take the XlsX that was saved by MS Office 2013 and try opening it
> >> in another version of MS Office, say 2010 or 2007, or even 365 then you
> may
> >> well find it's been opened in "Compatibility Mode" or even that it
> doesn't
> >> work at all in extreme cases.  Chances are that some things will have
> moved
> >> around or vanished, especially if you have anything in a frame (such as
> >> images).
> >>
> >> It makes a bit of sense that a file created with newer software might
> not
> >> fare too well on older versions of the same program but with XlsX and
> the
> >> other OOXML formats it even seems to happen the other way around.  Save
> a
> >> file in MS Office 2007 and you get the same problems trying to open that
> >> file in more recent versions of MS Office.
> >>
> >>
> >> MS keep the specs for their formats secret.  There is an ISO definition
> >> of OOXML but that doesn't seem to work in any version of MS Office.  MSO
> >> 2013 was the first that allowed people to save in "strict" but the
> >> resultant files don't seem to be able to be opened in any version of MS
> >> Office.
> >>
> >> So pretty much all programs struggle with trying to read or write XlsX
> or
> >> other OOXML files in any reliable way.  Which version of MS Office
> should
> >> they aim for?
> >>
> >> Actually we had a few times where the LibreOffice user in an office has
> >> been the only person able to open files from colleagues using different
> >> versions of MS Office and has then become a kinda stepping stone for
> >> sharing files between those colleagues.  Similarly with OpenOffice.
> >>
> >>
> >> Best advice seems to be to use either;
> >> 1.  the older MS Office format, Xls (without the X on the end), for MS
> >> Office Xp/2000 and prior or
> >> 2.  stick with Ods.
> >>
> >> Microsoft, in their 2010 version, refused to use the ODF 1.2 format that
> >> everyone else was using at the time and stuck with a mangled version of
> the
> >> older 1.0 (even ignoring the 1.1) and somehow that led to Ods appearing
> to
> >> open just fine but all the formulas got replaced by fixed values.  Their
> >> apparent failure somehow led to people saying that everyone else made
> bad
> >> spreadsheet programs and everyone should

Re: [libreoffice-users] [Calc, LibO 4.4] Bug on .ODS to .XLSX file conversion?

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Yeh, i don't know a good way around that :(  other than the way you already
use! :))


People used to be quite happy with the idea of downloading Adobe Acrobat to
read Pdfs with.  It used to be that almost any website that shared any kind
of document tended to only have them as Pdfs and also then 'had to' have a
button to help people download and install an Adobe Pdf Reader.  We hardly
see any of that these days but that is quite a recent change.

There were objections from people working in the council, or other
government offices or in big companies that they couldn't install anything
and thus couldn't use the format that everyone else seemed to be using so
much.  Now they seem to use Pdf more than everyone else, and even demand
that other people use it!

Regards from
Tom :)





On 23 April 2015 at 16:08, Ramon Tavarez  wrote:

> Hi:
>
> Thanks for your attention.
>
> The fact with this file is that can't be supported by .XLS format, and my
> coworkers doesn't work with LibO, and that is the only way I can use to
> "keep in touch" with them and their jobs. It may be a pain .. ... ... ,
> but while it work I'll keep using this method to share my jobs with them!
>
> In  use LibO for every document  I  create, even I update every version of
> LibO  as the module for my Linux distro: Porteus.
>
> On the other hand,I can understand the situation with MSOffice and how
> they refuse the OpenDocument formats, but I still worry about   the big
>  file size for those files not supported by the "classical" file type.
>
> This can lead erroneously, as you said,  to people to believe that
> everyone else made bad spreadsheet programs and everyone should stick with
> MS.
>
> Thanks.
>
> *Ramón E. Tavárez B.*
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:
>
>> Hi :)
>> The XlsX, and other OOXML formats are notoriously unreliable.  Each
>> different version of MS Office uses slightly different versions.  There are
>> at least 3 different "transitional" versions of the format and they are not
>> always compatible with each other.
>>
>> If you take the XlsX that was saved by MS Office 2013 and try opening it
>> in another version of MS Office, say 2010 or 2007, or even 365 then you may
>> well find it's been opened in "Compatibility Mode" or even that it doesn't
>> work at all in extreme cases.  Chances are that some things will have moved
>> around or vanished, especially if you have anything in a frame (such as
>> images).
>>
>> It makes a bit of sense that a file created with newer software might not
>> fare too well on older versions of the same program but with XlsX and the
>> other OOXML formats it even seems to happen the other way around.  Save a
>> file in MS Office 2007 and you get the same problems trying to open that
>> file in more recent versions of MS Office.
>>
>>
>> MS keep the specs for their formats secret.  There is an ISO definition
>> of OOXML but that doesn't seem to work in any version of MS Office.  MSO
>> 2013 was the first that allowed people to save in "strict" but the
>> resultant files don't seem to be able to be opened in any version of MS
>> Office.
>>
>> So pretty much all programs struggle with trying to read or write XlsX or
>> other OOXML files in any reliable way.  Which version of MS Office should
>> they aim for?
>>
>> Actually we had a few times where the LibreOffice user in an office has
>> been the only person able to open files from colleagues using different
>> versions of MS Office and has then become a kinda stepping stone for
>> sharing files between those colleagues.  Similarly with OpenOffice.
>>
>>
>> Best advice seems to be to use either;
>> 1.  the older MS Office format, Xls (without the X on the end), for MS
>> Office Xp/2000 and prior or
>> 2.  stick with Ods.
>>
>> Microsoft, in their 2010 version, refused to use the ODF 1.2 format that
>> everyone else was using at the time and stuck with a mangled version of the
>> older 1.0 (even ignoring the 1.1) and somehow that led to Ods appearing to
>> open just fine but all the formulas got replaced by fixed values.  Their
>> apparent failure somehow led to people saying that everyone else made bad
>> spreadsheet programs and everyone should stick with MS.
>>
>>
>> So it is well worth avoiding XlsX and it is probably best to use their
>> older Xls format instead - at least if you want to open the spreadsheet on
>> any machine other than the one with MS Office 2013 on.
>>
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23 April 2015 at 15:03, RamonTavarez  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> I've experienced the following issue:
>>>
>>> The file attached is an .ODS file (1,976 KB).  When seved as  .XLSX file
>>> it
>>> expands to more than 15 MB.
>>>
>>> If the new .XLSX files is oppened with MSOffice 2013 it will ask for
>>> recovery of information within the file,  after that if we save the
>>> recovered file to the same file type (.XLSX) the file shrinks to 2,393KB.
>>>
>>> Why?
>>>
>>>
>>> OBRA_CIVIL_TERMINACION_ESTACI

Re: [libreoffice-users] [Calc, LibO 4.4] Bug on .ODS to .XLSX file conversion?

[James Knott]

On 04/23/2015 10:47 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> MSO 2013
> was the first that allowed people to save in "strict" but the resultant
> files don't seem to be able to be opened in any version of MS Office.

Those files are probably write only.  ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Calc, LibO 4.4] Bug on .ODS to .XLSX file conversion?

[Ramon Tavarez]

Hi:

Thanks for your attention.

The fact with this file is that can't be supported by .XLS format, and my
coworkers doesn't work with LibO, and that is the only way I can use to
"keep in touch" with them and their jobs. It may be a pain .. ... ... ,
but while it work I'll keep using this method to share my jobs with them!

In  use LibO for every document  I  create, even I update every version of
LibO  as the module for my Linux distro: Porteus.

On the other hand,I can understand the situation with MSOffice and how they
refuse the OpenDocument formats, but I still worry about   the big  file
size for those files not supported by the "classical" file type.

This can lead erroneously, as you said,  to people to believe that everyone
else made bad spreadsheet programs and everyone should stick with MS.

Thanks.

*Ramón E. Tavárez B.*

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
> The XlsX, and other OOXML formats are notoriously unreliable.  Each
> different version of MS Office uses slightly different versions.  There are
> at least 3 different "transitional" versions of the format and they are not
> always compatible with each other.
>
> If you take the XlsX that was saved by MS Office 2013 and try opening it
> in another version of MS Office, say 2010 or 2007, or even 365 then you may
> well find it's been opened in "Compatibility Mode" or even that it doesn't
> work at all in extreme cases.  Chances are that some things will have moved
> around or vanished, especially if you have anything in a frame (such as
> images).
>
> It makes a bit of sense that a file created with newer software might not
> fare too well on older versions of the same program but with XlsX and the
> other OOXML formats it even seems to happen the other way around.  Save a
> file in MS Office 2007 and you get the same problems trying to open that
> file in more recent versions of MS Office.
>
>
> MS keep the specs for their formats secret.  There is an ISO definition of
> OOXML but that doesn't seem to work in any version of MS Office.  MSO 2013
> was the first that allowed people to save in "strict" but the resultant
> files don't seem to be able to be opened in any version of MS Office.
>
> So pretty much all programs struggle with trying to read or write XlsX or
> other OOXML files in any reliable way.  Which version of MS Office should
> they aim for?
>
> Actually we had a few times where the LibreOffice user in an office has
> been the only person able to open files from colleagues using different
> versions of MS Office and has then become a kinda stepping stone for
> sharing files between those colleagues.  Similarly with OpenOffice.
>
>
> Best advice seems to be to use either;
> 1.  the older MS Office format, Xls (without the X on the end), for MS
> Office Xp/2000 and prior or
> 2.  stick with Ods.
>
> Microsoft, in their 2010 version, refused to use the ODF 1.2 format that
> everyone else was using at the time and stuck with a mangled version of the
> older 1.0 (even ignoring the 1.1) and somehow that led to Ods appearing to
> open just fine but all the formulas got replaced by fixed values.  Their
> apparent failure somehow led to people saying that everyone else made bad
> spreadsheet programs and everyone should stick with MS.
>
>
> So it is well worth avoiding XlsX and it is probably best to use their
> older Xls format instead - at least if you want to open the spreadsheet on
> any machine other than the one with MS Office 2013 on.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> On 23 April 2015 at 15:03, RamonTavarez  wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I've experienced the following issue:
>>
>> The file attached is an .ODS file (1,976 KB).  When seved as  .XLSX file
>> it
>> expands to more than 15 MB.
>>
>> If the new .XLSX files is oppened with MSOffice 2013 it will ask for
>> recovery of information within the file,  after that if we save the
>> recovered file to the same file type (.XLSX) the file shrinks to 2,393KB.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>>
>> OBRA_CIVIL_TERMINACION_ESTACION_Y_MODULO_ENTRADA_EST_21_LINEA_2B_abril_2015.ods
>> <
>> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4147038/OBRA_CIVIL_TERMINACION_ESTACION_Y_MODULO_ENTRADA_EST_21_LINEA_2B_abril_2015.ods
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Calc, LibO 4.4] Bug on .ODS to .XLSX file conversion?

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
The XlsX, and other OOXML formats are notoriously unreliable.  Each
different version of MS Office uses slightly different versions.  There are
at least 3 different "transitional" versions of the format and they are not
always compatible with each other.

If you take the XlsX that was saved by MS Office 2013 and try opening it in
another version of MS Office, say 2010 or 2007, or even 365 then you may
well find it's been opened in "Compatibility Mode" or even that it doesn't
work at all in extreme cases.  Chances are that some things will have moved
around or vanished, especially if you have anything in a frame (such as
images).

It makes a bit of sense that a file created with newer software might not
fare too well on older versions of the same program but with XlsX and the
other OOXML formats it even seems to happen the other way around.  Save a
file in MS Office 2007 and you get the same problems trying to open that
file in more recent versions of MS Office.


MS keep the specs for their formats secret.  There is an ISO definition of
OOXML but that doesn't seem to work in any version of MS Office.  MSO 2013
was the first that allowed people to save in "strict" but the resultant
files don't seem to be able to be opened in any version of MS Office.

So pretty much all programs struggle with trying to read or write XlsX or
other OOXML files in any reliable way.  Which version of MS Office should
they aim for?

Actually we had a few times where the LibreOffice user in an office has
been the only person able to open files from colleagues using different
versions of MS Office and has then become a kinda stepping stone for
sharing files between those colleagues.  Similarly with OpenOffice.


Best advice seems to be to use either;
1.  the older MS Office format, Xls (without the X on the end), for MS
Office Xp/2000 and prior or
2.  stick with Ods.

Microsoft, in their 2010 version, refused to use the ODF 1.2 format that
everyone else was using at the time and stuck with a mangled version of the
older 1.0 (even ignoring the 1.1) and somehow that led to Ods appearing to
open just fine but all the formulas got replaced by fixed values.  Their
apparent failure somehow led to people saying that everyone else made bad
spreadsheet programs and everyone should stick with MS.


So it is well worth avoiding XlsX and it is probably best to use their
older Xls format instead - at least if you want to open the spreadsheet on
any machine other than the one with MS Office 2013 on.

Regards from
Tom :)




On 23 April 2015 at 15:03, RamonTavarez  wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I've experienced the following issue:
>
> The file attached is an .ODS file (1,976 KB).  When seved as  .XLSX file it
> expands to more than 15 MB.
>
> If the new .XLSX files is oppened with MSOffice 2013 it will ask for
> recovery of information within the file,  after that if we save the
> recovered file to the same file type (.XLSX) the file shrinks to 2,393KB.
>
> Why?
>
>
> OBRA_CIVIL_TERMINACION_ESTACION_Y_MODULO_ENTRADA_EST_21_LINEA_2B_abril_2015.ods
> <
> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n4147038/OBRA_CIVIL_TERMINACION_ESTACION_Y_MODULO_ENTRADA_EST_21_LINEA_2B_abril_2015.ods
> >
>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] display

[Paul D. Mirowsky]

Screen tearing issue with NVidia may be resolved by changing Vertical 
Sync to Adaptive.


Start video at  URL below at 40 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFRpnQ09_LA

The video is from 2013 and may not quite match, but you get the idea.

Hope this helps.


On 4/22/2015 11:17 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Good night = morning from Japan
I believe I did ask the same question in the past related to an
installation on a Win XP machine:
moving through documents (Writer) in LibreOffice while editing sometimes
(constantly!) sort of blurrs/freezes the screen.
That means, characters/lines/text sections "disappear", look like
smeared ink or are displayer overlapping.
The "problem" is solved, by switching to another Writer document and back.
That's fine, but still rather stupid and happens ONLY with Writer (not
yet noticed in Calc).

Computer: just bought a new one, running Windows 8.1 (= a nightmare!!!),
8 GB RAM, 120 GB SSD = OS + 1 TB HDD
and probably a whole lot of fancy high-tech stuff I not capable of
understanding.

So, I would LOVE to believe, that there cannot be any sort of
"insufficient power".

IS there a trick to convince the display to work smoothly???
Thank you.
Thomas





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[libreoffice-users] [Calc, LibO 4.4] Bug on .ODS to .XLSX file conversion?

[RamonTavarez]

Hi:

I've experienced the following issue:

The file attached is an .ODS file (1,976 KB).  When seved as  .XLSX file it
expands to more than 15 MB.

If the new .XLSX files is oppened with MSOffice 2013 it will ask for
recovery of information within the file,  after that if we save the
recovered file to the same file type (.XLSX) the file shrinks to 2,393KB.

Why?

OBRA_CIVIL_TERMINACION_ESTACION_Y_MODULO_ENTRADA_EST_21_LINEA_2B_abril_2015.ods

  



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Re: [libreoffice-users] display

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Just a quick google search gave me a couple results to try out and a forum
to post questions in.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1013828
http://lifehacker.com/disable-firefoxs-hardware-acceleration-to-fix-slowness-749344037

But i've not tried them yet and my machine is behaving remarkably well
today anyway so the result might not be immediately obvious.
Thanks and regards from
Tom :)



On 23 April 2015 at 14:21, Ralf Kersanach  wrote:

> Hi Tom,
>
> I've never noticed it with Firefox on linux, but I'll keep an eye on it.
>
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> On Thursday 23 April 2015 13:50:53 Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > I'm never convinced that the settings on a new machine are perfect but i
> > agree it is a good idea to stick with them until there is convincing
> enough
> > reason to try something else.  Since there was no barrage of people
> > applauding that part of my idea it's not exactly convincing enough!!  The
> > memory part sounds plausible though and is fairly easy to change and get
> > back to approximately default if it doesn't seem to do anything.
> >
> > That hardware acceleration sounds exactly perfect!  Well found!  I hope
> > Firefox has something similar because that's where i get the same sort of
> > issue on this machine.
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> > On 23 April 2015 at 13:23, Ralf Kersanach  wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I must say I have a similar behavior on my linux machine which has a
> > > similar
> > > configuration as of Thomas (apart from the SSD and windows 8.1). My
> > > graphic
> > > card is the hybrid one (NVIDIA GT-630M), processor an i7 and 8 GB RAM
> and
> > > 1 TB
> > > HD. I boosted my libre office (4.4.2) up to 250 MB, and 50 MB per
> > > document)
> > > and sometimes even with only one document text tearing happens. I must
> > > confess
> > > I haven't payed attention a) if the overall system memory was quite
> low or
> > > b)
> > > if the limit of the allocated memory usage or the per document memory
> > > reached
> > > their limit.
> > >
> > > I'll keep an eye on them to see if such behavior is consistent with low
> > > memory.
> > >
> > > Ralf
> > >
> > > On Thursday 23 April 2015 02:16:52 Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
> > > > On 2015/04/23 0:44, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > > > Hi :)
> > > > > Maybe increase the memory settings in LibreOffice?  The defaults
> tend
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > > > > be
> > > > > extremely low and on such a high-spec machine you can whack them
> right
> > >
> > > up.
> > >
> > > > > Tools - Options - Memory
> > > > >
> > > > > It sounds a bit like rendering issues so maybe the drivers for the
> > > > > graphics-'card' are not quite right.  I'm very much not sure about
> any
> > >
> > > of
> > >
> > > > > that though!
> > > > > Regards from
> > > > > Tom :)
> > > > >
> > > > > On 22 April 2015 at 16:17, Thomas Blasejewicz 
> wrote:
> > > > >> Good night = morning from Japan
> > > > >> I believe I did ask the same question in the past related to an
> > > > >> installation on a Win XP machine:
> > > > >> moving through documents (Writer) in LibreOffice while editing
> > >
> > > sometimes
> > >
> > > > >> (constantly!) sort of blurrs/freezes the screen.
> > > > >> That means, characters/lines/text sections "disappear", look like
> > > > >> smeared ink or are displayer overlapping.
> > > > >> The "problem" is solved, by switching to another Writer document
> and
> > > > >> back.
> > > > >> That's fine, but still rather stupid and happens ONLY with Writer
> > > > >> (not
> > > > >> yet noticed in Calc).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Computer: just bought a new one, running Windows 8.1 (= a
> > >
> > > nightmare!!!),
> > >
> > > > >> 8 GB RAM, 120 GB SSD = OS + 1 TB HDD
> > > > >> and probably a whole lot of fancy high-tech stuff I not capable of
> > > > >> understanding.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > > Just increasing the memory (from 50 MB to 200 MB for LO) did not
> work,
> > > > but while playing around in "options", I found "View" -> "Use
> hardware
> > > > acceleration".
> > > > For now, that seems to improve things ...
> > > >
> > > > Graphics card, its driver etc. are things that have been put there by
> > > > the manufacturer 2 weeks ago and I did not touch those.
> > > > Here too I would like to think, that THEY know a lot better than I do
> > > > ...
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] display

[Ralf Kersanach]

Hi Tom,

I've never noticed it with Firefox on linux, but I'll keep an eye on it.

Ralf
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On Thursday 23 April 2015 13:50:53 Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I'm never convinced that the settings on a new machine are perfect but i
> agree it is a good idea to stick with them until there is convincing enough
> reason to try something else.  Since there was no barrage of people
> applauding that part of my idea it's not exactly convincing enough!!  The
> memory part sounds plausible though and is fairly easy to change and get
> back to approximately default if it doesn't seem to do anything.
> 
> That hardware acceleration sounds exactly perfect!  Well found!  I hope
> Firefox has something similar because that's where i get the same sort of
> issue on this machine.
> 
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> On 23 April 2015 at 13:23, Ralf Kersanach  wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I must say I have a similar behavior on my linux machine which has a
> > similar
> > configuration as of Thomas (apart from the SSD and windows 8.1). My
> > graphic
> > card is the hybrid one (NVIDIA GT-630M), processor an i7 and 8 GB RAM and
> > 1 TB
> > HD. I boosted my libre office (4.4.2) up to 250 MB, and 50 MB per
> > document)
> > and sometimes even with only one document text tearing happens. I must
> > confess
> > I haven't payed attention a) if the overall system memory was quite low or
> > b)
> > if the limit of the allocated memory usage or the per document memory
> > reached
> > their limit.
> > 
> > I'll keep an eye on them to see if such behavior is consistent with low
> > memory.
> > 
> > Ralf
> > 
> > On Thursday 23 April 2015 02:16:52 Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
> > > On 2015/04/23 0:44, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > > Hi :)
> > > > Maybe increase the memory settings in LibreOffice?  The defaults tend
> > 
> > to
> > 
> > > > be
> > > > extremely low and on such a high-spec machine you can whack them right
> > 
> > up.
> > 
> > > > Tools - Options - Memory
> > > > 
> > > > It sounds a bit like rendering issues so maybe the drivers for the
> > > > graphics-'card' are not quite right.  I'm very much not sure about any
> > 
> > of
> > 
> > > > that though!
> > > > Regards from
> > > > Tom :)
> > > > 
> > > > On 22 April 2015 at 16:17, Thomas Blasejewicz  wrote:
> > > >> Good night = morning from Japan
> > > >> I believe I did ask the same question in the past related to an
> > > >> installation on a Win XP machine:
> > > >> moving through documents (Writer) in LibreOffice while editing
> > 
> > sometimes
> > 
> > > >> (constantly!) sort of blurrs/freezes the screen.
> > > >> That means, characters/lines/text sections "disappear", look like
> > > >> smeared ink or are displayer overlapping.
> > > >> The "problem" is solved, by switching to another Writer document and
> > > >> back.
> > > >> That's fine, but still rather stupid and happens ONLY with Writer
> > > >> (not
> > > >> yet noticed in Calc).
> > > >> 
> > > >> Computer: just bought a new one, running Windows 8.1 (= a
> > 
> > nightmare!!!),
> > 
> > > >> 8 GB RAM, 120 GB SSD = OS + 1 TB HDD
> > > >> and probably a whole lot of fancy high-tech stuff I not capable of
> > > >> understanding.
> > > 
> > > Thank you.
> > > Just increasing the memory (from 50 MB to 200 MB for LO) did not work,
> > > but while playing around in "options", I found "View" -> "Use hardware
> > > acceleration".
> > > For now, that seems to improve things ...
> > > 
> > > Graphics card, its driver etc. are things that have been put there by
> > > the manufacturer 2 weeks ago and I did not touch those.
> > > Here too I would like to think, that THEY know a lot better than I do
> > > ...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] display

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I'm never convinced that the settings on a new machine are perfect but i
agree it is a good idea to stick with them until there is convincing enough
reason to try something else.  Since there was no barrage of people
applauding that part of my idea it's not exactly convincing enough!!  The
memory part sounds plausible though and is fairly easy to change and get
back to approximately default if it doesn't seem to do anything.

That hardware acceleration sounds exactly perfect!  Well found!  I hope
Firefox has something similar because that's where i get the same sort of
issue on this machine.

Regards from
Tom :)


On 23 April 2015 at 13:23, Ralf Kersanach  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I must say I have a similar behavior on my linux machine which has a
> similar
> configuration as of Thomas (apart from the SSD and windows 8.1). My graphic
> card is the hybrid one (NVIDIA GT-630M), processor an i7 and 8 GB RAM and
> 1 TB
> HD. I boosted my libre office (4.4.2) up to 250 MB, and 50 MB per document)
> and sometimes even with only one document text tearing happens. I must
> confess
> I haven't payed attention a) if the overall system memory was quite low or
> b)
> if the limit of the allocated memory usage or the per document memory
> reached
> their limit.
>
> I'll keep an eye on them to see if such behavior is consistent with low
> memory.
>
> Ralf
>
>
>
> On Thursday 23 April 2015 02:16:52 Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
> > On 2015/04/23 0:44, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > Hi :)
> > > Maybe increase the memory settings in LibreOffice?  The defaults tend
> to
> > > be
> > > extremely low and on such a high-spec machine you can whack them right
> up.
> > >
> > > Tools - Options - Memory
> > >
> > > It sounds a bit like rendering issues so maybe the drivers for the
> > > graphics-'card' are not quite right.  I'm very much not sure about any
> of
> > > that though!
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :)
> > >
> > > On 22 April 2015 at 16:17, Thomas Blasejewicz  wrote:
> > >> Good night = morning from Japan
> > >> I believe I did ask the same question in the past related to an
> > >> installation on a Win XP machine:
> > >> moving through documents (Writer) in LibreOffice while editing
> sometimes
> > >> (constantly!) sort of blurrs/freezes the screen.
> > >> That means, characters/lines/text sections "disappear", look like
> > >> smeared ink or are displayer overlapping.
> > >> The "problem" is solved, by switching to another Writer document and
> > >> back.
> > >> That's fine, but still rather stupid and happens ONLY with Writer (not
> > >> yet noticed in Calc).
> > >>
> > >> Computer: just bought a new one, running Windows 8.1 (= a
> nightmare!!!),
> > >> 8 GB RAM, 120 GB SSD = OS + 1 TB HDD
> > >> and probably a whole lot of fancy high-tech stuff I not capable of
> > >> understanding.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Just increasing the memory (from 50 MB to 200 MB for LO) did not work,
> > but while playing around in "options", I found "View" -> "Use hardware
> > acceleration".
> > For now, that seems to improve things ...
> >
> > Graphics card, its driver etc. are things that have been put there by
> > the manufacturer 2 weeks ago and I did not touch those.
> > Here too I would like to think, that THEY know a lot better than I do ...
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] display

[Ralf Kersanach]

Hi,

I must say I have a similar behavior on my linux machine which has a similar 
configuratio as of Thomas (a part from the SSD and windows 8.1). My graphic 
card is the hybrid one (NVIDIA GT-630M), processor an i7 and 8 GB RAM and 1 TB 
HD. I boosted my libre office (4.4.2) up to 250 MB, and 50 MB per document) 
and sometimes even with only one document text tearing happens. I must confess 
I haven't payed attention a) if the overall system memory was quite low or b) 
if the limit of the allocated memory usage or the per document memory reached 
their limit.

I'll keep an eye on them to see if such behavior is consistent with low 
memory.

Ralf



On Thursday 23 April 2015 02:16:52 Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
> On 2015/04/23 0:44, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > Maybe increase the memory settings in LibreOffice?  The defaults tend to
> > be
> > extremely low and on such a high-spec machine you can whack them right up.
> > 
> > Tools - Options - Memory
> > 
> > It sounds a bit like rendering issues so maybe the drivers for the
> > graphics-'card' are not quite right.  I'm very much not sure about any of
> > that though!
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> > 
> > On 22 April 2015 at 16:17, Thomas Blasejewicz  wrote:
> >> Good night = morning from Japan
> >> I believe I did ask the same question in the past related to an
> >> installation on a Win XP machine:
> >> moving through documents (Writer) in LibreOffice while editing sometimes
> >> (constantly!) sort of blurrs/freezes the screen.
> >> That means, characters/lines/text sections "disappear", look like
> >> smeared ink or are displayer overlapping.
> >> The "problem" is solved, by switching to another Writer document and
> >> back.
> >> That's fine, but still rather stupid and happens ONLY with Writer (not
> >> yet noticed in Calc).
> >> 
> >> Computer: just bought a new one, running Windows 8.1 (= a nightmare!!!),
> >> 8 GB RAM, 120 GB SSD = OS + 1 TB HDD
> >> and probably a whole lot of fancy high-tech stuff I not capable of
> >> understanding.
> 
> Thank you.
> Just increasing the memory (from 50 MB to 200 MB for LO) did not work,
> but while playing around in "options", I found "View" -> "Use hardware
> acceleration".
> For now, that seems to improve things ...
> 
> Graphics card, its driver etc. are things that have been put there by
> the manufacturer 2 weeks ago and I did not touch those.
> Here too I would like to think, that THEY know a lot better than I do ...


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