[libreoffice-users] Re: UNO with Libreoffice 5 (64-Bit, Win) and Java
Thank you Stephan for the hint. Dependency's profiling the soffice.bin execution from within Java worked and I got a longer log. However, since I'm no C(++) or Windows programmer I wouldn't know where to search for a bug in the Java64-UNO-Libreoffice64 process. Would somebody like to take a quick look at the log file, please? It's here: http://pastebin.com/v1x5sEUM Or are there people in the Libreoffice developer team who know more about this whole UNO thing, in order to spot the error when LO 64-Bit is being called from Java 64-Bit? Thanks for any help. Greetings, Aurelius Am 24.08.2015 um 10:49 schrieb Stephan Bergmann: On 08/22/2015 02:47 PM, Aurelius Octavian wrote: With Depends tool do you mean the Depency Walker (depends.exe) ? http://www.dependencywalker.com/ I didn't find another tool which would sound similar to what you mentioned. Yes, that's what I meant. In any case, I fail to open my Java program with Depency Walker, since the latter wants to open Windows modules only, i.e. .exe, .dll files. However I start my Java program with a .bat script which the Depency Walker doesn't want to open: java -cp myapp.jar;unojarfiles.jar myclass Then find the java.exe that would be started by the above batch script, open that in Dependency Walker, and set the -cp myapp.jar... arguments when starting java from within Dependency Walker. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: UNO with Libreoffice 5 (64-Bit, Win) and Java
On 08/24/2015 02:28 PM, Aurelius Octavian wrote: Thank you Stephan for the hint. Dependency's profiling the soffice.bin execution from within Java worked and I got a longer log. However, since I'm no C(++) or Windows programmer I wouldn't know where to search for a bug in the Java64-UNO-Libreoffice64 process. Would somebody like to take a quick look at the log file, please? It's here: http://pastebin.com/v1x5sEUM Or are there people in the Libreoffice developer team who know more about this whole UNO thing, in order to spot the error when LO 64-Bit is being called from Java 64-Bit? My suspicion would be that, when spawned from the java.exe process, soffice.bin runs in some subtly altered environment that e.g. causes it to pick up unexpected instances of certain DLLs---something like picking an MSVCRT DLL that is suitable for the java.exe but not for soffice.bin, or similar. However, I at least cannot spot any obvious issue in your pastebin, unfortunately. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 5.0 Review Rating | PCMag.com
On 21/08/15 11:02, Pedro wrote: I disagree that the UI is the biggest problem... The acid test is whether or not the UI passes or fails Section 508 criteria. Currently, LibO fails Section 508 criteria. (Draw fails everything. Impress fails most of the time.) jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 5.0 Review Rating | PCMag.com
2015-08-24 16:36 GMT+02:00 toki toki.kant...@gmail.com: On 21/08/15 11:02, Pedro wrote: I disagree that the UI is the biggest problem... The acid test is whether or not the UI passes or fails Section 508 criteria. Currently, LibO fails Section 508 criteria. (Draw fails everything. Impress fails most of the time.) jonathon After reading through the Section 508 criteria ( http://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-section-508-standards/section-508-standards) , may I suggest that the authors, whatever wordprocessor on which they produced their document, have a distinct UI problem themselves ?... ;-) Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] HEHELP!! Link not always working with yosemite/posted question in Ask page, profile showing 0 questions
Il 23/08/2015 14:02, donabo...@libero.it ha scritto: Hi, I apologize if this is not the right place, but I am getting desperate: first, my question is NOT showing to the users in the Ask page after 2 days I posted. Here are the screenshot of the question, and the 0 questions in my profile Captcha was properly typed after question. The problem is that I did get the link in my text twice or 3 times out of 100 I tried, and I never downloaded the java thing, so I probably shouldn't, so I can't figure what made it go right. Libre Office 4.4.3.2, Yosemite 10 10 4 Place cursor in text, target: URL, frame: leave blank no selection from menu, Form: button Assign Macro: trigger hyperlink, my text title, click blue OK button back to hyperlink window/apply/ok the cell promptly appears but doesn't bring to link, and just shows selection dots around it. Attached link window and what the cell looks like when clicked Best regards dona bozzi Hi Dona send to us link for the attachment you want to show to the list, you cannot attached any file to your mail to the list. Also, you could ask to our italian mailing list (after subscribing): us...@it.libreoffice.org if you prefer italian language Ciao -- Valter Open Source is better! LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: UNO with Libreoffice 5 (64-Bit, Win) and Java
On 08/22/2015 02:47 PM, Aurelius Octavian wrote: With Depends tool do you mean the Depency Walker (depends.exe) ? http://www.dependencywalker.com/ I didn't find another tool which would sound similar to what you mentioned. Yes, that's what I meant. In any case, I fail to open my Java program with Depency Walker, since the latter wants to open Windows modules only, i.e. .exe, .dll files. However I start my Java program with a .bat script which the Depency Walker doesn't want to open: java -cp myapp.jar;unojarfiles.jar myclass Then find the java.exe that would be started by the above batch script, open that in Dependency Walker, and set the -cp myapp.jar... arguments when starting java from within Dependency Walker. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 5.0 Review Rating | PCMag.com
2015-08-21 4:15 GMT+02:00 jlwal...@monkeypantz.net: On 2015-08-20 22:10, toki wrote: On 20/08/15 10:12, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: I should get a job writing these kinds of reviews Why are you assuming that a human-being wrote the review? It has most of the hallmarks of a bot-written review. EASY MONEY! The days of the paid, professional reviewer are numbered. From one side, are reviews written for gratis across the social media; From the other side, bots are writing reviews; From the third side, content distributors are trying to slash costs wherever and whenever possible; I miss the depth of old BYTE! magazine reviews. The primary virtue of BYTE! reviews was that there was a sense of objectivity, in what was rated, and how it was rated. There were a couple of times when the reviewer was trying to say the product was good, when their own ratings showed that it was bad, and vice-versus. jonathon Thought I'd share this. One of my latest open source pieces for TechRepublic about LibreOffice 5.0. http://www.techrepublic.com/article/libreoffice-5-0-the-strongest-release-to-date/ Jack On the contrary, Jack, comparing the LO UI with that of Windows, most users with whom I've come in contact who don't use these products professionally - your «average user» - find the former far easier to understand and use than the latter. Professional users soon get accustomed to any interface, even one as unintuitive as the infamous MS Office «ribbon», which now also plagues such services as Hotmail (aka Outlook.com) and then find it easy to use, but this is definitely not the case for the average user. Toolbars which make it easy to find what one is looking for are far better than those that hide them under layers of inaccessibility Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 5.0 Review Rating | PCMag.com
Hi :) I got the 4.0 article from the original link too even though i'm not in the southern hemisphere and don't have my monitor upside down either. Guess it is another Firefox issue. Even going to the author's page and clicking on the 5.0 link got me to the 4.0 review. Also the font size kept jumping from large font size to medium. So maybe it's a problem with their web-design !skills. Actually i thought most of the 4.0 article wasn't as bad as i was expecting. A lot of it seemed very pro-LibreOffice even without mentioning some of the main advantages of LIbreOffice and the OpenSource world in general. The first paragraph was appalling but after that it got a bit better. The first comment seemed to address one of the many advantages of LibreOffice but didn't mention it was also something that OpenOffice offers, and also doesn't specifically state that it's something MS Office definitely doesn't offer. Still top-marks for the 1st comment! :) Regards from Tom :) On 24 August 2015 at 18:08, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-08-24 16:36 GMT+02:00 toki toki.kant...@gmail.com: On 21/08/15 11:02, Pedro wrote: I disagree that the UI is the biggest problem... The acid test is whether or not the UI passes or fails Section 508 criteria. Currently, LibO fails Section 508 criteria. (Draw fails everything. Impress fails most of the time.) jonathon After reading through the Section 508 criteria ( http://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-section-508-standards/section-508-standards ) , may I suggest that the authors, whatever wordprocessor on which they produced their document, have a distinct UI problem themselves ?... ;-) Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 5.0 Review Rating | PCMag.com
Hi :) I think it is important to get some good comments in there quickly. It would be good to do this to any other articles about LibreOffice too. It is best to write more comments for articles that are properly pro-LibreOffice so that their authors get seen positively by whoever publishes such articles. Even negative comments about an article increases the authors pay-packet and/or likelihood of getting further articles published. Perhaps help people who claim to have problems in the comments sections. They are probably MS shills (or whatever) but treating their 'problems' as legitimate and avoiding being rude can often encourage people to try LO. The typically rude comments tends to put most people off ime. Even 'just' signposting them (pointing them) to the official website; https://www.libreoffice.org/ and tell them to click on the Get Help menu is often seen as friendly and helpful. I know it's trendy and clever to be rude and sometimes it is difficult to avoid but it puts most people off OpenSource. In the 4.0 review it rankles that ... Err, of course most of his opinions are stated as facts - such as the ribbon vs proper-menu. His problem with the Options pop-up requiring him to fix his Java settings is unique to the only machine he seems to have tried. That problem has never been raised on this list and no-one else i know of or have seen comments or articles from has ever mentioned it. So his mention of it as being a fact that everyone will have to contend with seems a little unfair. However even taking those things into account his article seems surprisingly pro-LibreOffice, in a back-handed sort of way. Regards from Tom :) On 24 August 2015 at 21:32, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) I got the 4.0 article from the original link too even though i'm not in the southern hemisphere and don't have my monitor upside down either. Guess it is another Firefox issue. Even going to the author's page and clicking on the 5.0 link got me to the 4.0 review. Also the font size kept jumping from large font size to medium. So maybe it's a problem with their web-design !skills. Actually i thought most of the 4.0 article wasn't as bad as i was expecting. A lot of it seemed very pro-LibreOffice even without mentioning some of the main advantages of LIbreOffice and the OpenSource world in general. The first paragraph was appalling but after that it got a bit better. The first comment seemed to address one of the many advantages of LibreOffice but didn't mention it was also something that OpenOffice offers, and also doesn't specifically state that it's something MS Office definitely doesn't offer. Still top-marks for the 1st comment! :) Regards from Tom :) On 24 August 2015 at 18:08, M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-08-24 16:36 GMT+02:00 toki toki.kant...@gmail.com: On 21/08/15 11:02, Pedro wrote: I disagree that the UI is the biggest problem... The acid test is whether or not the UI passes or fails Section 508 criteria. Currently, LibO fails Section 508 criteria. (Draw fails everything. Impress fails most of the time.) jonathon After reading through the Section 508 criteria ( http://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/communications-and-it/about-the-section-508-standards/section-508-standards ) , may I suggest that the authors, whatever wordprocessor on which they produced their document, have a distinct UI problem themselves ?... ;-) Henri -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
