Re: [libreoffice-users] Mapping Styles usage

2016-03-24 Thread toki


On 24/03/2016 13:58, Ralf Kersanach wrote:

> I have an question to all, I'm developing an classroom management system 
> adjusted to our university system in Calc.

That probably would be more appropriately done as a database, not a
spreadsheet.

> One of the facilities I use massively is conditional formatting. My main 
> difficulty with conditional formatting is 
> keeping track of what style is in use and what style is not in use.

AFAIK, the only way to track styles when conditional formatting is used,
is to do so manually.

jonathon


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Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

2016-03-24 Thread Bruce Byfield
On Thursday, March 24, 2016 08:04:58 AM CVAlkan wrote:
 
> The book is also featured on Jean Hollis Weber's site
> http://www.taming-libreoffice.com/2016/03/new-book-designing-with-libreoffic
> e/ since she appears to be one of the editors/reviewers.

Thanks for the kind words!

Jean commissioned the book through her nonprofit, Friends of OpenDocument. She 
has also worked long hours to copy edit and proofread, and, more recently, to 
promote. I couldn't have had a better editor, and the book is much improved 
for her involvement.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: date display in Calc Linux/Windows

2016-03-24 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

On 2016/03/24 20:08, Bruce Hohl wrote:

What format is used to save the file: ods, xlsx, xls?  Sometimes the
filters used to save in formats other than ods fail to retain all
formatting.


Good evening
Nativ ODS format, since I use this file ONLY with LibreOffice.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No indent in footnotes

2016-03-24 Thread Mike Scott

On 23/03/16 13:54, Urmas wrote:

"anne-ology":


How can this be the fault of the USofA ???


In Europe, footnotes have the same indent as the text body, and their
markers are superscripted.
It was LO behavior too, until some American changed it into the mess we
have today.



Without commenting on either PoV, does this not suggest that footnote 
formatting (and probably other similar issues) should have a default 
controlled by the locale?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office - older version

2016-03-24 Thread Brian Barker

At 11:15 24/03/2016 -0400, Charles Meyer wrote:
Does anyone know where I can download a 
trusted/official older version of Libre Office ­ specifically version 3.6.4.3 ?


https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/3.6.4.3/

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] Libre Office - older version

2016-03-24 Thread charles meyer
Hi Folks,

Does anyone know where I can download a trusted/official older version
of Libre Office – specifically version 3.6.4.3 ?

Thanks so much.

Charles.

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[libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

2016-03-24 Thread CVAlkan
For those who may have missed it, I would like to recommend a new book by
Bruce Byfield called "Designing with LibreOffice." I have absolutely no
connection whatever to this author or book, by the way.

As with the normal LibreOffice manuals, the book can be purchased as a
paperback or downloaded free as a pdf or odt document (with an optional
contribution, of course) at
http://designingwithlibreoffice.com/download-buy/

Bruce approaches LibreOffice not from the standpoint of menu functions and
such, as the manuals do and should do, but as a document design and creation
tutorial. This approach serves to show the purpose of LO's features and how
to use them effectively. There are numerous tips throughout the book that
are obviously the result of much use of the product's components. His
discussion of styles, their importance, and their use is as good as any I've
run across.

This results-driven approach is also valuable because the author not only
isn't shy about suggesting which features of LO are best avoided for one
reason or another, but offers alternatives to achieving the desired
objectives in such cases.

The best compliment I can give the book is to say that I learned quite a bit
about some of the capabilities of Writer and Calc that I wasn't aware of at
all, and ended up with a much better understanding of how to take greater
advantage of features I've been using for years.

The book is also featured on Jean Hollis Weber's site
http://www.taming-libreoffice.com/2016/03/new-book-designing-with-libreoffice/
since she appears to be one of the editors/reviewers.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to use coding and labelling in a spreadsheet

2016-03-24 Thread Brian Barker

At 07:15 24/03/2016 +, Som Noname wrote:
calc is a powerful spreadsheet program and i want to use this for 
data analysis.


It may be more powerful than you think!

let's say, one study has a variable named "malnutrition" measuring 
the nutritional status of under-five children. this variable has two 
value levels - "1=malnutrition" and "2=normal"


If "normal" means *not* malnourished, surely the category should be 
"nutrition", not "malnutrition", and the possible value needs to be 
"malnourished", not "malnutrition" (as well as "normal")?


present scenario: if data in entered as "1"/"2", spreadsheet will 
show it as "1"/"2".


Why do people think all data needs to be represented as numbers? The 
numbers 1 and 2 have two properties that are inappropriate here. 
First there is a collating order: 1 comes before 2 - but there is no 
sense in which "malnourished" comes first in preference to "normal". 
Second, numbers have value: 2 is exactly twice the size of 1 - but 
there is no sense in which "normal" is exactly (or only) twice as 
good as "malnourished". If you see a malnourished child, you don't 
remark "Oh, look how 1 he is"! These are what are called 
non-parametric statistics, and you should avoid complication and 
confusion by ascribing numbers to them. (Don't believe any 
mathematicians who tell you everything has to be thought of in terms 
of numbers.)



if it is entered as "malnutrition"/"normal", it will be shown in that manner.


You are lucky that - unlike in mathematics - spreadsheets are happy 
handling text values such as these. So using values such as 
"malnourished" and "normal" - or perhaps just "m" and "n" - will suit 
your purpose better than 1 and 2. It would be a very simple matter to 
make mistakes by confusing which condition was 1 and which was 2 - 
something much less likely with meaningful labels such as "m" and "n".


possibilities: renaming the cell. [...] cell A2 has a code of "1" 
and is renamed to "malnutrition" (upper left corner).


No, you misunderstand what names are about. You give a name to a 
*cell* (or, generally, a cell range), so the name becomes an 
alternative way of identifying the cell (or range) and has nothing to 
do with the value or values contained. And you obviously cannot name 
more than one cell with the same name!


my question finally comes to this - is there any way to do this in a 
spreadsheet program?


There are many techniques to help you here.

o If you wanted to, you could format relevant columns to expand "m" 
to "malnourished" and so on - as has already been explained.


o Alternatively, it would be a simple job to create a parallel column 
with formulae which would show the full word derived from the single 
input letter. You could exclude your input column from any print 
range to suppress its output.


o If you use the full words, as soon as you have entered the two 
values at least once each somewhere in a column, just typing the 
first letter (since they are conveniently different) will 
automatically show the full word as a suggestion. You need only press 
Enter or down-arrow or click the green arrow to complete the full 
word as the entry.


o Again, once both values appear somewhere in a column, you can press 
Ctrl+D to show a selection list. The arrow keys and the Enter key 
enable you to select the required value quickly.


o Best of all, you should consider using Data | Validity... to 
restrict values in the column to those listed in a cell range set up 
elsewhere in the spreadsheet. Now any selected cell comes with a 
drop-down menu of the permitted values and the arrangement ensures 
that only recognised values can be entered. Apart from the 
convenience, this prevents the possibility of spelling mistakes in 
input - which would otherwise be quite likely in a large set of data.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] Mapping Styles usage

2016-03-24 Thread Ralf Kersanach
Hi folks,

I have an question to all, I'm developing an classroom management system 
adjusted to our university system in Calc. I've rewritten it from an previous 
version I had, I use it to learn Calc. One of the facilities I use massively 
is conditional formatting. My main difficulty with conditional formatting is 
keeping track of what style is in use and what style is not in use.

Question: Is there a way to keep track of style usage?

Thanks,

Ralf

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: date display in Calc Linux/Windows

2016-03-24 Thread Bruce Hohl
What format is used to save the file: ods, xlsx, xls?  Sometimes the
filters used to save in formats other than ods fail to retain all
formatting.

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz  wrote:

> On 2016/03/07 0:10, Pedro wrote:
>
>> Thomas Blasejewicz-3 wrote
>>
>>> I assume, there is a trick to do that?
>>>
>>> Fonts: as far as I can see, there are no fonts with the same name in
>>> Linux/Windows.
>>> Does that then mean, I cannot work on the same file using both Linux and
>>> Windows?
>>>
>> Open the file in the Windows machine, go to File > Properties, switch to
>> the
>> Font tab and check the "Embed fonts in the document" box.
>> In theory the fonts are cross platform and should work on both OSes...
>> Please be warned that the file will increase substantially in size.
>> LibreOffice currently has a bug that causes some unneeded fonts to be
>> embedded
>> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65353
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
> Good evening
> I am afraid, I still have problems with this trick.
> I have a "schedule" file on a Windows 10 machine.
> On the left edge are dates. I specified the format for that column "number
> -> date -> (Japanese) date format".
> However on opening the file today, everything was garbled up.
> Resetting the format to date -> closing the file -> reopening it => again
> everything is messed up.
> I tried this several time with different formats, removing the "language"
> argument from that column etc. ...
> so far the ONLY thing that seems to help is setting the date to
> alphanumeric style.
> That is basically OK, but I am wondering why all of a sudden I am not
> permitted to use something that has been working for years ...
> Thomas
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: date display in Calc Linux/Windows

2016-03-24 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

On 2016/03/07 0:10, Pedro wrote:

Thomas Blasejewicz-3 wrote

I assume, there is a trick to do that?

Fonts: as far as I can see, there are no fonts with the same name in
Linux/Windows.
Does that then mean, I cannot work on the same file using both Linux and
Windows?

Open the file in the Windows machine, go to File > Properties, switch to the
Font tab and check the "Embed fonts in the document" box.
In theory the fonts are cross platform and should work on both OSes...
Please be warned that the file will increase substantially in size.
LibreOffice currently has a bug that causes some unneeded fonts to be
embedded
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65353

Hope this helps.

Good evening
I am afraid, I still have problems with this trick.
I have a "schedule" file on a Windows 10 machine.
On the left edge are dates. I specified the format for that column 
"number -> date -> (Japanese) date format".

However on opening the file today, everything was garbled up.
Resetting the format to date -> closing the file -> reopening it => 
again everything is messed up.
I tried this several time with different formats, removing the 
"language" argument from that column etc. ...
so far the ONLY thing that seems to help is setting the date to 
alphanumeric style.
That is basically OK, but I am wondering why all of a sudden I am not 
permitted to use something that has been working for years ...

Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to use coding and labelling in a spreadsheet

2016-03-24 Thread som

thank you regina. that is exactly what i was trying to achieve. addition of red 
was a nice touch too.
thank you very much for your help.

regards,
som
On Thursday 24 March 2016 01:56 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi som,

you can use format codes. Format codes do not change the value of the
cell, but only how this value is shown. So the content of the cell would
be still the number 1 or 2, but you would read "malnutrition" and "normal".

Open Style&Formatting dialog, right-click cell style 'default', select
'New'. Enter a name for the new style in tab 'Organizer',e.g.
'myLabels'. In tab 'Numbers' select 'User-defined'. Then write the
following into the input field 'Format'

[=1]"malnutrition";[=2]"normal";[RED]Standard

You can click on the "edit comment" icon to define an identifier for
this format.
Then click the green check mark to add it. OK.
Now mark the area where you will enter the data and assign the newly
created cell style.

When you now enter a 1 into a cell, the input line shows a 1 and you can
calculate with the content 1, but in the cell itself you will see
'malnutrition'.

I have included the part [RED]Standard, so that all other numbers will
be in red to show, that this entry is not correct.

Find more about Format codes in the help.

Kind regards
Regina


som schrieb:
> hello friends,
> calc is a powerful spreadsheet program and i want to use this for data
> analysis. let's say, one study has a variable named "malnutrition"
> measuring the nutritional status of under-five children. this variable
> has two value levels - "1=malnutrition" and "2=normal" (ods file
> link=http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=01897194432026825577).
> present scenario:
> if data in entered as "1"/"2", spreadsheet will show it as "1"/"2". if
> it is entered as "malnutrition"/"normal", it will be shown in that
> manner.
> what I expect:
> after doing value labeling (i.e., telling calc that "1=malnutrition"
> and "2=normal"), data will be entered as "1"/"2" and it'll appear as
> "malnutrition"/"normal").
> possibilities:
>   renaming the cell.
> as could be seen in this image
> (http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=03212213468569832926), cell A2
> has a code of "1" and is renamed to "malnutrition" (upper left corner).
> problem: need to select each cell containing "1" and rename it to
> malnutrition. otherwise cell A4 is not showing malnutrition for code 1
> (http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=37582743697322862277).so i guess,
> my question finally comes to this- is there any way to do this in a
> spreadsheet program?
> waiting for your responses. thanks in advance.
>
> regards,
>
> som
>


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Re: [libreoffice-users] how to use coding and labelling in a spreadsheet

2016-03-24 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi som,

you can use format codes. Format codes do not change the value of the 
cell, but only how this value is shown. So the content of the cell would 
be still the number 1 or 2, but you would read "malnutrition" and "normal".


Open Style&Formatting dialog, right-click cell style 'default', select 
'New'. Enter a name for the new style in tab 'Organizer',e.g. 
'myLabels'. In tab 'Numbers' select 'User-defined'. Then write the 
following into the input field 'Format'


[=1]"malnutrition";[=2]"normal";[RED]Standard

You can click on the "edit comment" icon to define an identifier for 
this format.

Then click the green check mark to add it. OK.
Now mark the area where you will enter the data and assign the newly 
created cell style.


When you now enter a 1 into a cell, the input line shows a 1 and you can 
calculate with the content 1, but in the cell itself you will see 
'malnutrition'.


I have included the part [RED]Standard, so that all other numbers will 
be in red to show, that this entry is not correct.


Find more about Format codes in the help.

Kind regards
Regina


som schrieb:

hello friends,
calc is a powerful spreadsheet program and i want to use this for data analysis. let's say, one study has a 
variable named "malnutrition" measuring the nutritional status of under-five children. this 
variable has two value levels - "1=malnutrition" and "2=normal" (ods file 
link=http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=01897194432026825577).
present scenario:
if data in entered as "1"/"2", spreadsheet will show it as "1"/"2". if it is entered as 
"malnutrition"/"normal", it will be shown in that manner.
what I expect:
after doing value labeling (i.e., telling calc that "1=malnutrition" and "2=normal"), data will be entered as 
"1"/"2" and it'll appear as "malnutrition"/"normal").
possibilities:
  renaming the cell.
as could be seen in this image (http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=03212213468569832926), cell A2 
has a code of "1" and is renamed to "malnutrition" (upper left corner).
problem: need to select each cell containing "1" and rename it to malnutrition. 
otherwise cell A4 is not showing malnutrition for code 1 
(http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=37582743697322862277).so i guess, my question 
finally comes to this- is there any way to do this in a spreadsheet program?
waiting for your responses. thanks in advance.

regards,

som




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[libreoffice-users] how to use coding and labelling in a spreadsheet

2016-03-24 Thread som
hello friends, 
calc is a powerful spreadsheet program and i want to use this for data 
analysis. let's say, one study has a variable named "malnutrition" measuring 
the nutritional status of under-five children. this variable has two value 
levels - "1=malnutrition" and "2=normal" (ods file 
link=http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=01897194432026825577). 
present scenario: 
if data in entered as "1"/"2", spreadsheet will show it as "1"/"2". if it is 
entered as "malnutrition"/"normal", it will be shown in that manner. 
what I expect: 
after doing value labeling (i.e., telling calc that "1=malnutrition" and 
"2=normal"), data will be entered as "1"/"2" and it'll appear as 
"malnutrition"/"normal"). 
possibilities:
 renaming the cell. 
as could be seen in this image 
(http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=03212213468569832926), cell A2 has a code 
of "1" and is renamed to "malnutrition" (upper left corner). 
problem: need to select each cell containing "1" and rename it to malnutrition. 
otherwise cell A4 is not showing malnutrition for code 1 
(http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=37582743697322862277).so i guess, my 
question finally comes to this- is there any way to do this in a spreadsheet 
program? 
waiting for your responses. thanks in advance. 

regards, 

som
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