Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Ancient Greek Extension Problem

[John Jason Jordan]

On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 12:24:31 -0700 (MST)
CVAlkan  dijo:

>One of my (other and many) gripes related to Attic Greek is that the
>same distinctions aren't very consistent in the font glyphs I have - I
>prefer the ancient form of the circumflex rather than the modern form
>which looks to me like a misplaced tilde. I guess I'm just too old to
>be satisfied anymore.

Might this be a problem with the font you are using?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with instalation

[Tim Lloyd]

Hi,

this list does not allow attachments so can you please post any 
attachments to the web based interface


http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble/

Could you also please advise the version of Libreoffice and your 
operating system


Regards


On 17/08/16 18:35, youwelc...@seznam.cz wrote:

Hello,



i cannot install your product Libre office. When i am in instalation there
are some errors. I print screen it for you and put it in attachment. I
really need your help. How can i solve this problem(s)?


Thank you very much and i am looking forward for your answer,

Tomáš




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Ancient Greek Extension Problem

[CVAlkan]

Hi Jonathon:

I'm primarily interested in Attic Greek, as my current concentration is on
the works of Aristotle, and even more particularly in his Organon collection
(probably the best relational database design book ever written, once you
figure out what he's getting at with that in mind). Unfortunately, I'm
installing many, many bits of software on a new installation piece by piece,
so likely won't be able to test it for real until perhaps next weekend as,
surprise, it's not the major thing I need to get working.

One of my (other and many) gripes related to Attic Greek is that the same
distinctions aren't very consistent in the font glyphs I have - I prefer the
ancient form of the circumflex rather than the modern form which looks to me
like a misplaced tilde. I guess I'm just too old to be satisfied anymore.

I'll try to remember to post back on how well this all works when I get a
chance. As I said earlier, it never occurred to me that anyone else had any
interest in this stuff.

Frank



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ancient Greek Extension Problem

[Laurent Alonso]

> Le 17 août 2016 à 15:39, CVAlkan  a écrit :
> 
> Hi:
> 
Hello,

> I attempted to add the "AncientGreek 1.5.5 (Apr 17, 2016)" extension, and
> received nothing but 404 errors.
> 
> I suspect the problem is that the extension (as well as the link URLs) is
> now labeled "AncinetGreek-1.5.5" (note the swap of i and e in the name). I
> attempted to "correct" the URL in the browser, but gave up after a few
> tries.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
> 
If you try to download if from 
http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/ancientgreek/releases/1.5.5
the good URL seems to be

http://members.hellug.gr/sng/ancientgreekoxt/files/AncientGreek-1.5.5.oxt

> Thanks.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: XML document

[Tom Morton]

This is impossible tho. If I deleted these sections I would have had to have
deleted them separately as they were not together. And also if I had of
deleted them, the footnotes would have disappeared also? I would have had to
have highlighted each paragraph and deleted them and made sure I didn't
delete the citation... I remember perfectly saving my paper, exiting Libre
Office Writer and then going to bed. There's just no way. 

I also don't appear to have any backups and I wrote that in one day so I
don't have another format saved. 



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[libreoffice-users] Problem with instalation

[youwelcome]

Hello, 



i cannot install your product Libre office. When i am in instalation there 
are some errors. I print screen it for you and put it in attachment. I 
really need your help. How can i solve this problem(s)? 


Thank you very much and i am looking forward for your answer,

Tomáš

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Re: [libreoffice-users] setting default save directory?

[toki]

On 17/08/2016 16:38, pfyre wrote:

> is a way to stop LibreOffice from automatically wanting to save files to
> 'OneDrive>Documents>'?

What is the complete path at ">Tools >Options > LibreOffice >Paths >My
Documents"?

jonathon

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Ancient Greek Extension Problem

[toki]

On 17/08/2016 15:05, CVAlkan wrote:

> Given the popularity of Ancient Greek (really?),

I wouldn't be surprised if most people use it for Koine Greek, rather
than Attic Greek, which is what it was designed for. grc-koi v grc-att.

>I mainly wanted the spell checker

The last time I looked at the extension, it didn't include Katharevousa,
Medieval Greek, or Koine Greek spell checking functionality. Wondering
how those three are segregated from each other, and Attic Greek.

jonathon

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[libreoffice-users] setting default save directory?

[pfyre]

I've learned to live with this quirk. But I would love to know if there 
is a way to stop LibreOffice from automatically wanting to save files to 
'OneDrive>Documents>'?


I've set the default directory to 'This PC>Documents>' and have done a 
search on help for this issue but no help there. Each and every time I 
try to save the first document after first opening LibreOffice - it 
wants to save the file to 'OneDrive>Documents>'. Once I change to 
directory to 'This PC>Documents>' it saves where I want it to and 
continues save to the directory I want. Until the next time I first open 
LibreOffice.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: XML document

[Piet van Oostrum]

I tried to save one of my own documents as MS 2003 XML, and it also contains 
only a part of my original document. Apparently the MS 2003 XML output filter 
is severely broken, and it should be repaired, or at least be disabled as long 
as it in this state. There probably isn't a good enough unit test for it in the 
build process.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tom Morton shared "Dissertation" with you

[Philip Jackson]

Hi Tom,

It must have taken you an hour or so to write 3000 words. Did you have
automatic backups switched on ?  If so, you can likely find several
copies saved every 10 minutes or so.

Have you checked your backup path ?

Philip

On 17/08/16 15:23, Tom Morton (via Dropbox) wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> Tom Morton (tws.mor...@gmail.com) invited you to edit the folder " 
> Dissertation " on Dropbox.
> 
> Tom said:
> "Hello, 
> 
> I was writing my dissertation yesterday using Libre Office Writer. I 
> accidentally saved it as 2003 XML document. 
> 
> I had written 3000+ words and now I can not get the words back. 
> 
> However, when I open the document in Libre Office Writer, It comes up saying 
> that there is 3000+ words in the word count and 6 pages in the properties but 
> I can only see headers, some footnotes and two small paragraphs. My hand in 
> is on monday and I'm having a nightmare right now. 
> 
> if i open the document in anything other than Libre Office Writer, it only 
> appears in formula or code. 
> 
> I am going to attach the document now.
> 
> Thanks for your help in advance. "
> 
> Go to folder[1]
> 
> Enjoy!
> The Dropbox team
> 
> [1]: https://www.dropbox.com/l/scl/PhCWhej6ONTpdPrSFdlZ5g?text=1
> 


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[libreoffice-users] Re: XML document

[Piet van Oostrum]

Alexander Thurgood wrote:

 > Le 17/08/2016 à 14:52, Tom Morton a écrit :
 > 
 > Hi Tom,
 > 
 > I opened the XML file in Word 15.24 for Mac OSX
 > It only contains 2 pages (492 words).
 > 
 > I opened your ODT file in LO530 alpha (my own master build)
 > It too only contains 2 pages. (483 words)
 > 
 > Both documents are substantially identical.
 > 
 > Alex

That was MY ODT file, which apparently reached the original folder :)
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Ancient Greek Extension Problem

[CVAlkan]

Wow!  In the spirit of the currently running Olympics I have to view these
responses as a new world record!

Given the popularity of Ancient Greek (really?), I expected some
half-hearted response sometime six months from now, but FOUR useful
responses in under an hour - with good solutions and interesting information
as well.

I mainly wanted the spell checker, as I already use iBus for easy typing in
several scripts, but thanks much to all in the LibreOffice chorus - it now
seems to be working just as I'd hoped.

βρεκεκεκὲξ κοὰξ κοάξ, as Aristophanes would have said!!!

- Frank






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[libreoffice-users] Re: XML document

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 17/08/2016 à 14:52, Tom Morton a écrit :

If I open the XML file in a text editor, I see the same content. I can
only assume that at some stage you must have erroneously deleted some
content from your original ODT file, albeit inadvertently, as the two
files are the same.

Sorry to not be able to help any further.

Alex





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[libreoffice-users] Re: XML document

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 17/08/2016 à 14:52, Tom Morton a écrit :

Hi Tom,

I opened the XML file in Word 15.24 for Mac OSX
It only contains 2 pages (492 words).

I opened your ODT file in LO530 alpha (my own master build)
It too only contains 2 pages. (483 words)

Both documents are substantially identical.

Alex



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Re: [libreoffice-users] XML document

[Brian Barker]

At 13:52 17/08/2016 +0100, Tom Morton wrote:
I was writing my dissertation yesterday using Libre Office Writer. I 
accidentally saved it as 2003 XML document. I had written 3000+ 
words and now I can not get the words back. However, when I open the 
document in Libre Office Writer, It comes up saying that there is 
3000+ words in the word count and 6 pages in the properties but I 
can only see headers, some footnotes and two small paragraphs.


If I rename this as a .docx it also opens in OpenOffice as well as 
the Microsoft Word Viewer showing only those two pages. Examining the 
XML itself in Internet Explorer or a plain text viewer confirms that 
the small amount of text that you are seeing is all there is in the file.


you can see in this image that there is 3362 words however only 
showing two pages of around 300-400 words. This second picture shows 
the 6 pages that it says it has.


Examining the raw XML again shows that the figures of 6 pages, 3362 
words, 20511 characters, and 55 paragraphs are coded in the file 
itself, and evidently LibreOffice is repeating those without 
calculating values itself. If you save a copy as .odt (but beware: 
see below and look for back-up copies first), I think you will see 
that you stimulate LibreOffice to recalculate the figures and come up 
with 30 paragraphs, 499 words, and 2974 characters.


So the material you have lost is simply not in this file.

o As someone has already said, if this was the first time you saved 
the document in a new format, you should still have the previously 
saved version in the older format, which will not have been 
overwritten. Look in your own folders for Dissertation.odt (or whatever).


o Look in Tools | Options.. for the path to Backups. Navigate there 
and look for Dissertation.bak. If you find it, *make a copy in your 
own document folders*, change the extension to .odt (or whatever it 
might have been), and hope that it contains your lost work.


o Go back to your most recent external back-up copy of the document 
and continue working from there.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tom Morton shared "Dissertation" with you

[Piet van Oostrum]

Tom Morton \(via Dropbox\) wrote:

 > Hi there,
 > 
 > Tom Morton (tws.mor...@gmail.com) invited you to edit the folder " 
 > Dissertation " on Dropbox.
 > 
 > Tom said:
 > "Hello, 
 > 
 > I was writing my dissertation yesterday using Libre Office Writer. I 
 > accidentally saved it as 2003 XML document. 
 > 
 > I had written 3000+ words and now I can not get the words back. 
 > 
 > However, when I open the document in Libre Office Writer, It comes up saying 
 > that there is 3000+ words in the word count and 6 pages in the properties 
 > but I can only see headers, some footnotes and two small paragraphs. My hand 
 > in is on monday and I'm having a nightmare right now. 
 > 
 > if i open the document in anything other than Libre Office Writer, it only 
 > appears in formula or code. 
 > 
 > I am going to attach the document now.
 > 
 > Thanks for your help in advance. "
 > 
 > Go to folder[1]
 > 
 > Enjoy!
 > The Dropbox team
 > 
 > [1]: https://www.dropbox.com/l/scl/PhCWhej6ONTpdPrSFdlZ5g?text=1

I looked into the file, and when I open it in LO (5.2), it indeed says 3362 
words, 20511 characters. But that is just a number stored in the file. As soon 
as you do something (like add a space), it has to recalculate the number of 
words and it comes down to 292 words, 2980 characters. I looked inside the xml 
file, and that really is all there is. There is no other hidden or invisible 
text. So if this xml file is all you have, I am afraid the rest is lost.

I saved it as ODT in the folder but I don't know if that will reach you also or 
if it is just a local copy for myself.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ancient Greek Extension Problem

[Philip Jackson]

Hi again, further to my note on the beta version, try just modifying the
defective link to :

http://members.hellug.gr/sng/ancientgreekoxt/files/AncientGreek-1.5.5.oxt

This gives an apparently good download.  (note the last part of the link
is .1.5.5.oxt  and not .1.5.54.oxt -  looks like someone has hit
the keypad without taking care and has hit both the 5 and 4 keys).

Philip

On 17/08/16 15:39, CVAlkan wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> I attempted to add the "AncientGreek 1.5.5 (Apr 17, 2016)" extension, and
> received nothing but 404 errors.
> 
> I suspect the problem is that the extension (as well as the link URLs) is
> now labeled "AncinetGreek-1.5.5" (note the swap of i and e in the name). I
> attempted to "correct" the URL in the browser, but gave up after a few
> tries.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ancient Greek Extension Problem

[Philip Jackson]

Yes, I see the same thing. But if you follow the links back you get to :

http://members.hellug.gr/sng/ancientgreekoxt/index.html

from where you can download the latest beta version, 1.6.beta4.1.

This installs ok in LO Writer 5.1.4.2  but I have no use for it so can't
comment on how it works.

Possible worth giving it a go while waiting for LO website to correct
their links.

hth Philip

On 17/08/16 15:39, CVAlkan wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> I attempted to add the "AncientGreek 1.5.5 (Apr 17, 2016)" extension, and
> received nothing but 404 errors.
> 
> I suspect the problem is that the extension (as well as the link URLs) is
> now labeled "AncinetGreek-1.5.5" (note the swap of i and e in the name). I
> attempted to "correct" the URL in the browser, but gave up after a few
> tries.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: XML document

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 17/08/2016 à 14:52, Tom Morton a écrit :

Hi Tom,

I am assuming that if you have been working on this for a while, then
you have a previous version somewhere in ODT format ? Would that not be
an option ? Saving in another format doesn't overwrite the previous file.

Alex




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ancient Greek Extension Problem

[Brian Barker]

At 06:39 17/08/2016 -0700, Frank Oberle wrote:
I attempted to add the "AncientGreek 1.5.5 (Apr 17, 2016)" 
extension, and received nothing but 404 errors.


I suspect the problem is that the extension (as well as the link 
URLs) is now labeled "AncinetGreek-1.5.5" (note the swap of i and e 
in the name). I attempted to "correct" the URL in the browser, but 
gave up after a few tries.


I think this part of the problem is a red herring, in fact.


Does anyone have any suggestions?


The link to the actual file goes to
http://members.hellug.gr/sng/ancientgreekoxt/files/AncientGreek-1.5.54.oxt 
, whereas what you need seems to be

http://members.hellug.gr/sng/ancientgreekoxt/files/AncientGreek-1.5.5.oxt .

I trust this helps.

Brian "Sherlock" Barker  



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[libreoffice-users] Tom Morton shared "Dissertation" with you

[Tom Morton (via Dropbox)]

Hi there,

Tom Morton (tws.mor...@gmail.com) invited you to edit the folder " Dissertation 
" on Dropbox.

Tom said:
"Hello, 

I was writing my dissertation yesterday using Libre Office Writer. I 
accidentally saved it as 2003 XML document. 

I had written 3000+ words and now I can not get the words back. 

However, when I open the document in Libre Office Writer, It comes up saying 
that there is 3000+ words in the word count and 6 pages in the properties but I 
can only see headers, some footnotes and two small paragraphs. My hand in is on 
monday and I'm having a nightmare right now. 

if i open the document in anything other than Libre Office Writer, it only 
appears in formula or code. 

I am going to attach the document now.

Thanks for your help in advance. "

Go to folder[1]

Enjoy!
The Dropbox team

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[libreoffice-users] Ancient Greek Extension Problem

[CVAlkan]

Hi:

I attempted to add the "AncientGreek 1.5.5 (Apr 17, 2016)" extension, and
received nothing but 404 errors.

I suspect the problem is that the extension (as well as the link URLs) is
now labeled "AncinetGreek-1.5.5" (note the swap of i and e in the name). I
attempted to "correct" the URL in the browser, but gave up after a few
tries.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] XML document

[jorge]

Hi Tom:

The e-mail users@global.libreoffice.org not accept attachment. To share
your document with us you can upload it to other sites like Dropbox, and
then send an email to this list with the link of the document on that
site and we can download to analize.

Regards,

Jorge



El mié, 17-08-2016 a las 13:52 +0100, Tom Morton escribió: 
> Hello,
> 
> I was writing my dissertation yesterday using Libre Office Writer. I
> accidentally saved it as 2003 XML document.
> 
> I had written 3000+ words and now I can not get the words back.
> 
> However, when I open the document in Libre Office Writer, It comes up
> saying that there is 3000+ words in the word count and 6 pages in the
> properties but I can only see headers, some footnotes and two small
> paragraphs. My hand in is on monday and I'm having a nightmare right now.
> 
> 
> 
> you can see in this image that there is 3362 words however only showing two
> pages of around 300-400 words.
> 
> This second picture shows the 6 pages that it says it has.
> 
> 
> ​
> if i open the document in anything other than Libre Office Writer, it only
> appears in formula or code.
> 
> I am going to attach the document now.
> 
> Thanks for your help in advance.
> 
> Tom
> 

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[libreoffice-users] XML document

[Tom Morton]

Hello,

I was writing my dissertation yesterday using Libre Office Writer. I
accidentally saved it as 2003 XML document.

I had written 3000+ words and now I can not get the words back.

However, when I open the document in Libre Office Writer, It comes up
saying that there is 3000+ words in the word count and 6 pages in the
properties but I can only see headers, some footnotes and two small
paragraphs. My hand in is on monday and I'm having a nightmare right now.



you can see in this image that there is 3362 words however only showing two
pages of around 300-400 words.

This second picture shows the 6 pages that it says it has.


​
if i open the document in anything other than Libre Office Writer, it only
appears in formula or code.

I am going to attach the document now.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Tom

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