Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-06-29 Thread Ernest Kurtz
Back again with an LO crash: 
Opened LO for first time in three days;
Opened 3 .rtf files I had worked on in OO yesterday;
When I hit Enter to open a line-space in one of the files, LO crashed;
Even Force Quit could not close it, but it finally died after about 10 
minutes jiggling.
Does anyone think I should try to use LO again, after this yet again repetitive 
near-disaster?
ernie kurtz



On Jun 29, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Eric wrote:

 By the way, what's the command to open this document in command line, to see 
 if I can catch some errors when it crashes?
 
 
 Le 28/06/2011 23:53, Eric wrote:
 Hi Nuno,
 
 No it's not the only file which causes a crash,
 and as I can't see my attached strace, i've posted it here: 
 http://dl.free.fr/o9kL0sy6V
 I hope it will help you, its reading is not obvious at all for me :)
 
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

2011-06-28 Thread Ernest Kurtz
'Lo :(
As one who uses only Writer on LO and OO, roughly on alternate days, never at 
the same time, I find LO to be less stable, crashing about every other time.  
OO crashes are rare, maybe one in ten use-days. 
But I keep hoping, as it appears there is more current work on LO.
BTW, I save all files in RTF. 
ernie kurtz 

On Jun 28, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 LibreOffice is more highly developed, it is developing faster and has a more 
 certain future.  Substantial clean-up of the code has made it about 30% 
 smaller 
 so it's faster to download and since it is more streamlined, hopefully it 
 runs a 
 bit faster.  
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

2011-06-28 Thread Ernest Kurtz
Hi2--
I am using aMacBook3,1; Intel Core 2 Duo;  2.2 GHz;  L2 Cache:  4 MB;  Memory:4 
GB;  Bus Speed: 800 MHz;
LibreOffice 3.3.; OOO330m19 (Build:202); tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2
Thanks for the several quick comments. 
ernie kurtz

On Jun 28, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi
 That doesn't sound pleasant :(  I don't use OpenOffice at all anymore.  
 LibreOffice has not crashed on me at all.  I don't use it every day tho.  
 Which 
 version do you use, the 3.4.0?  I stick with the 3.3.2 on Ubuntu still.
 Regards from
 Tom :)
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Ernest Kurtz kurtz...@umich.edu
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Tue, 28 June, 2011 14:38:48
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support
 
 'Lo :(
 As one who uses only Writer on LO and OO, roughly on alternate days,  never 
 at 
 the same time, I find LO to be less stable, crashing about every other  
 time.  
 OO crashes are rare, maybe one in ten use-days. 
 
 But I keep  hoping, as it appears there is more current work on LO.
 BTW, I save all files  in RTF. 
 ernie kurtz 
 
 On Jun 28, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:
 
 Hi :)
 LibreOffice is more highly developed, it is  developing faster and has a 
 more 
 
 certain future.  Substantial  clean-up of the code has made it about 30% 
 smaller 
 
 so it's faster to  download and since it is more streamlined, hopefully it 
 runs a 
 
 bit  faster.  
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

2011-06-28 Thread Ernest Kurtz
Steve:
Several things can trigger a crash, but especially importing a file into the 
document on which I am working.  Size seems to make no difference.
ek

On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

 Hi. I use LO also on a makbook pro, every day. Firstly 3.3.2 and now 3.4 and 
 I have not had a crash.
 
 I wonder if it is the RTF file format. When does LO crash (what activity).
 steve
 
 On 29/06/11 5:28 AM, Ernest Kurtz wrote:
 Hi2--
 I am using aMacBook3,1; Intel Core 2 Duo;  2.2 GHz;  L2 Cache:   4 MB;  
 Memory:4 GB;  Bus Speed: 800 MHz;
 LibreOffice 3.3.; OOO330m19 (Build:202); tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2
 Thanks for the several quick comments.
 ernie kurtz
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Mac people

2011-06-24 Thread Ernest Kurtz
Thanks, aqualung:  I am looking into the two OOo fora to which you link.
ek

On Jun 24, 2011, at 4:59 AM, aqualung wrote:
 
 The OpenOffice.org community forum does have a 
 http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=17 Mac-specific
 section  as well as a 
 http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=101 LibreOffice
 section , and we welcome queries from Mac people and LibO people.
 
 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Mac people

2011-06-23 Thread Ernest Kurtz
Thank you, Marc.  Might you -- or anyone -- have any thoughts/experience with 
NeoOffice and LO?
ek

On Jun 23, 2011, at 6:27 AM, Marc Grober wrote:

 You can create two different users to use each of the different apps - only 
 way to accomplish this in my opinion unless you go through all options and 
 create two different locations for app user profiles, as that is what is 
 causing the crashes I believe (I.e, they are reading same user data)
 
 
 
 On Jun 23, 2011, at 1:34 AM, Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Le 21/06/11 20:56, Ernest Kurtz a écrit :
 
 Hi Ernest,
 
 If there are any primarily Mac users on this list, please contact me 
 off-list?  
 
 My interest is almost exclusively in Writer, and because I work on several 
 projects at the same time, I like to have available and open several 
 different word processors.  When I've tried to run both OOo and LO at the 
 same time, LO crashes.  It works well if I do not open OOo, though I keep 
 OOo on my machine.  No conflicts with NisusPro, MyWritings, GeoWord, Bean, 
 but I would like to use OOo or NeoOffice. 
 
 
 I have noticed that with LO 3.3.x and OOo 3.3.x, I could get one or the
 other to crash if both were running at the same time. I haven't been
 able to pin it down though, as it is somewhat irregular and put it down
 to instabilities in both products. I have a theory that the programs
 possibly attempt to address the same memory space during certain
 operations, which potentially causes the problems. I can't prove it
 because trying to run valgrind on two separate OOo/Neo/LibO instances
 virtually brings my Mac to a standstill.
 
 
 Alex
 
 
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