Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Searchable PDFs from Graphite fonts
You are obviously much more advanced than I am. Just a couple thoughts. Persistent I think is a better word. When I publish my work on the Web I want search engines to index it correctly, otherwise there is little point. I'm beginning to think that the problem may be in the PDF converter settings. I tried checking and unchecking the imbed standard fonts option, but it made no difference. I don't think the Graphite fonts count as standard, so they are embedded regardless of that setting. I'm still thinking that there's a problem in the way LibO creates PDF files as opposed to AOO. It sounds like it to me too. Jonathan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Searchable PDFs from Graphite fonts
Libertine G and Biolinum G fonts have been bundled with LO since LO 3.3: So I keep on reading. But apparently not in the Debian or Ubuntu distributions(?) Perhaps I'm missing the 'graphite' bits? When I follow the instructions inhttp://numbertext.org/linux/fontfeatures.odt everything matches. Are you able to post the PDF that you produce? I'd like to take a look at it with some PDF editing tools? Thanks! Jonathan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Searchable PDFs from Graphite fonts
I got them, thanks. They are exactly the same as my PDF - the text appears fine but if I copy and paste it then it looks like this: This his the offichial vershion. Cheers, Jonathan On 02/11/12 15:36, NoOp wrote: On 11/01/2012 09:23 PM, Jonathan Schultz wrote: Libertine G and Biolinum G fonts have been bundled with LO since LO 3.3: So I keep on reading. But apparently not in the Debian or Ubuntu distributions(?) Perhaps I'm missing the 'graphite' bits? When I follow the instructions inhttp://numbertext.org/linux/fontfeatures.odt everything matches. Are you able to post the PDF that you produce? I'd like to take a look at it with some PDF editing tools? Sent to you directly. Both the 3.5 and 3.6 versions. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Searchable PDFs from Graphite fonts
Hi all,
Thank you for all your enthusiastic help with this.
I also made some progress. Using Infix PDF Editor 5 (Windows trial
version under Wine) and/or fontforge (Linux) I could see that the Font
mapping was messed up. The mistaken mappings begin:
Th - T
i - hi
That is, the PDF converter has broken 'This' at the wrong place into
'T/hi/s' instead of 'Th/i/s'. All successive instances of the 'i' glyph
are mapped to 'hi', thus explaining the drunken slurring effect.
I was able to manually repair the mappings using podofobrowser
(Opensource, pre-built Windows executable under Wine). Now my real PDF
is good. But if I re-create it I need to re-repair it.
I've reproduced the problem with both Debian and the LO versions of LO.
Maybe I should also try installing AOO.
webmaster-Kracked_P_P: would you be able to attach the PDF that you
produced from my file so I can look for signs?
My version of the fonts is from January 2012, so that may be a source of
the problem. Another possibility, since it's fairly clearly a bug
somewhere, is that maybe building for 64 bit architecture makes it
disappear.
Unless anyone has a better idea, I'll file this as a LO bug.
Cheers,
Jonathan
On 01/11/12 04:39, VA wrote:
Interesting problem. Based on my tests, which I detail below, it appears
to be LibO bug rather than a font problem.
I'm using LibO 3.5.6.2 with Win7 and Adobe Reader.
In the sentence This is the official version with Linux Libertine G,
there are two instances of automatic ligatures--the Th combination in
This, and the ffi combination in official. In Adobe Reader, I aas
able to find This when I did a search, which means that the Reader
recognized the Th ligature as a T followed by an h which is what I
typed into the search box. But, when I tried to search for official
the Adobe Reader couldn't find it, which means it did NOT associate my
typing of an f, f, I with the ffi ligature.
Then when I copied and pasted the sentence from the PDF file into a
plain text editor, it placed an h before every instance of an i just
as was reported. However, this obviously has nothing to do with
ligatures as most of the instances of i were NOT included in the
ligatures. In fact, it did not place an h before the i in the ffi
ligature.
For comparison, I ran the same test using Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1. to
see if it is a font issue or a program issue. I'm sorry to report that
it appears to be a program issue. In AOO, I typed the same sentence
using Linux Libertine G, This is the official version. I then saved it
as a PDF and opened it in Adobe Reader. This time, a search found both
This and official despite both words containing ligatures. And, when
I copied the sentence into a plain text editor, it copied correctly
without any additions of h before i.
I love the Linux Libertine set of fonts. I use it, not only with LibO
and AOO, but also when I set a document in LaTeX.
I have found that Apache OpenOffice's support for Linux Libertine G
appears to be more complete and polished than LibO's. This may be an
example of that more complete support.
Of course, LibO has its advantages over AOO; for example, it properly
hyphenates American English words, with AOO does not appear to do. It
would be nice if someone could combine the best of both programs into
one complete program (along with the tabbed interface of Lotus Symphony,
yet a third fork of the original OO). But, I won't hold my breath.
Virgil
-Original Message- From: Dan Lewis
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:02 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Searchable PDFs from Graphite fonts
On 10/30/2012 11:08 PM, Jonathan Schultz wrote:
I can select the text in the PDF, copy and paste, but get an 'h'
added before most 'i'. I can search, but not if the word is one with
the extra h before i Steve
That's exactly what I mean. It effectively means no searching.
I tried both Linux Libertine and Linux Biolinum [14 point] on my
3.5.7 version for Ubuntu 64-bit. I cannot replicate the issue with
added characters.
Were you using Graphite fonts ('Libertine G'/'Biolinum G')? Those are
the ones where the problem arises. Those are also the fonts that do
ligatures and other lovely typesetting things that make them look so
nice, which I why I want to use them.
Cheers,
Jonathan
Seems to me that you have solved your own problem: it is the
fonts. The search function can not handle the the lovely typesetting
things. As you mentioned, an i looks like a hi to it. The only real
solution is to not use any of the Graphite fonts in a PDF.
But if you want to search the PDF, have you opened it in Draw and
search for the text in it?
--Dan
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Searchable PDFs from Graphite fonts
I can select the text in the PDF, copy and paste, but get an 'h'
added before most 'i'. I can search, but not if the word is one with
the extra h before i Steve
That's exactly what I mean. It effectively means no searching.
I tried both Linux Libertine and Linux Biolinum [14 point] on my
3.5.7 version for Ubuntu 64-bit. I cannot replicate the issue with
added characters.
Were you using Graphite fonts ('Libertine G'/'Biolinum G')? Those are
the ones where the problem arises. Those are also the fonts that do
ligatures and other lovely typesetting things that make them look so
nice, which I why I want to use them.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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[libreoffice-users] Searchable PDFs from Graphite fonts
Hello, I've found that using the Graphite fonts Libertine and Biolinum produce very attractive PDFs. However the PDFs are effectively unsearchable, as LibreOffice seems to insert spurious characters into the text. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Searchable PDFs from Graphite fonts
Hello, I've found that using the Graphite fonts Libertine and Biolinum produce very attractive PDFs. However the PDFs are effectively unsearchable, as LibreOffice seems to insert spurious characters into the text. The attached files demonstrate what I mean. The text in the ODT reads This is the official version. while the text in the PDF reads This his the offichial vershion. Can anyone suggest why this is happening or what I can do about it? Many thanks, Jonathan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] To run libreoffice arm
It works just fine on the phone. Of course it's pretty small but you can make it full-screen and hide all the toolbars to get as much usable space as possible. I've used it for serious work when I can't get to anything with a bigger screen. Cheers, Jonathan On 14/06/12 20:30, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Ahh, brilliant! Thanks for clarifying that! Errr, just to clarify about using LO on a Noki phone!? Does that work? Can you see enough clearly enough to be useful for you? Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 14/6/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com wrote: From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] To run libreoffice arm To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 10:23 I've been using Libreoffice, and OpenOffice before it, on ARM for many years. You can get it from debian or ubuntu repositories. I presume the sources are there too (?). It generally works very well and is as stable as the i386 versions. Unfortunately -base broke some years back and has been removed from the repositories. No comment on its usability with touchscreens. I have only used external keyboards (USB, BT or slide keyboard on my Nokia N900), so have never dealt with using an on-screen keyboard. Jonathan On 14/06/12 19:08, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It sounds as though LibreOffice-Arm is not ready yet. Apparently it is not yet compiled and alpha-tested in Ubuntu. Even tho Debian and Ubuntu are in the same family Debian programs do not always work well in Ubuntu. As with most programs it is written for keyboard and mouse. You might be able to get an on-screen keyboard. I am sure i have used one in Ubuntu before. Do you know how to search for software and check that it is free? I vaguely remember it being in Accessibility features although that seems a slightly mad place to look for an on-screen keyboard. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 14/6/12, applewangguifa...@126.com wrote: From: applewangguifa...@126.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] To run libreoffice arm To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 9:44 hi, Mirosław Zalewski Where can I find the source of arm-debian libreoffice？ 2012-6-13，下午6:51， Mirosław Zalewski 写道： On 13/06/2012 at 10:47, applewangguifa...@126.com wrote: hi，everyone： I want to run libreoffice transplants to the arm, how can I do? thinks。 Perhaps the simplest way is to install Debian - there are already packages for ARM in repository. There is official port to armel (http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/) and unofficial (it just means that it has not yet met quality criteria - you can expect some bugs and rough edges) port to armhf (http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort). Although if you want to run LO on touchscreen device, it may be quite unusable because of user interface which was created with mouse and keyboard in mind. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] More crashes
Hi again, Although version 3.5.3-2 seems a bit more stable, I am still experiencing regular crashing, even with Java disabled. I imagine that if I submit a bug report, it's best that I use a version of libreoffice direct from TDF rather than through my linux distro? If that is the case, can someone tell me where to get the corresponding debug info from? Thanks, Jonathan On 18/04/12 20:40, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) For bug-reporting these 2 guides end-up with roughly the same result. Noobs to OpenSource might prefer the 2nd link but i suspect you might prefer the 1st one http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/ I'm glad to hear most of your crashing is fixed by going back to the 3.4.6! Which version of java are you using now? Tools - Options - Java Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 18/4/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com wrote: From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] More crashes To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 18 April, 2012, 1:37 Although reverting to version 3.4.6 stopped some of the crashes I was experiencing, I find that I still get regular crashing on certain files. One particular problem is that trying to copy-and-paste from a master document containing 8 sub-documents into a new document causes instant crashing. And some other spurious files seem to provoke regular crashes. So my questions are: 1. Any suggested work-arounds for the master document problem? 2. Is it worth my while getting a debug output for these other crashes? And where should I report it if I do? Thanks, Jonathan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] More crashes
Although reverting to version 3.4.6 stopped some of the crashes I was experiencing, I find that I still get regular crashing on certain files. One particular problem is that trying to copy-and-paste from a master document containing 8 sub-documents into a new document causes instant crashing. And some other spurious files seem to provoke regular crashes. So my questions are: 1. Any suggested work-arounds for the master document problem? 2. Is it worth my while getting a debug output for these other crashes? And where should I report it if I do? Thanks, Jonathan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
Regards OP's failures with Bibus - IIRC, it has PyUno Python, wxpython and wxWidgets version dependencies for use with OpenOffice/LibreOffice Writer, and it looks as if its development has stalled (last release v1.5 in Oct. 2009). Resolving problems with current OO/LibO releases may require a refresh or rebuild of the Bibus extension. FWIW Bibus continues to function with the Debian releases of LibreOffice. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Some-documents-make-libreoffice-writer-crash-tp3893517p3897820.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
Hi, Thanks for all the feedback. The good news for me is that uninstalling then reinstalling libreoffice 3.4.6 from Debian/testing seems to have fixed things. Ok, so if you have created parallel installs of LibreOffice without using the guide then they might be interacting badly. I don't think that was the issue. In each ease I uninstalled libreoffice before reinstalling, whether from the TDF archives or the Debian repository. That said, there are a lot of packages to install and uninstall and I didn't pay attention to each of them. Frequent crashing usually indicates a bad version of java. Java 6_21 seems to be the best for older versions of LibreOffice but i think you need the 7_3 (or around there, most recent is best). Do you actually *need* Java? Or should I say, do I actually need Java to use libreoffice for my purposes. In any case, I don't think my crashes are related to Java because disabling Java in libreoffice settings never made any difference. Cheers, Jonathan --- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com wrote: From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 6:35 Unfortunately I'm still not out of the woods. The TDF version of LibreOffice isn't detected by bibus. Which means no bibliography, which is pretty much a deal-breaker. So I played with the debian/testing version again, and managed to get it to not crash with my file by deleting my user profile. Then I rebuilt the profile... and it started crashing again. And now if I start again with a virgin profile, it still crashes. I tried to look at the source for bibus (it's all in python) to work out how it detects whether Libre/Open-Office is present, but don't know enough about the LibreOffice API to know what I'm really looking for. So I still have a basically unusable system. :( On 08/04/12 11:34, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Phew, i'm glad to hear you solved it. Presumably you copied the old User Profile to the new place to get your previous settings and Extensions back? You can always try the repo version another time and then perhaps do a parallel install after that maybe. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com wrote: From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 1:11 You might have already tried this but it looks like you didn't mention it. Can you download the TDF's official version instead of using one from the repos? http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=deb-x86〈=en-GB I have tried it now, and it works! Thank you very much. It messed with my desktop integration a little and put the configuration files in a different place, but when I'd worked that out it all looked good. I didn't bother with the parallel installation though, actually didn't notice that you'd shown me that link until it was too late. I guess I can go back to the debian distro when they get 3.4.6? Annoyingly the main downloads page tries to give me the .Rpm instead of the .Deb but also it lets you choose the more stable 3.4.6 instead of the 3.5.2. It worked for me, ie offered me the .deb installation. Cheers, Jonathan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
With some frustration I now have only my smartphone running (very slowly) OpenOffice 3.1 left among my devices that doesn't crash immediately on loading an important document I am working on. I have tried a number of libreoffice versions between 3.4 to 3.5.2 from both debian and ubuntu repositories. They all do exactly the same thing. I tried getting a debug log, but fell foul of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/947778 I tried resetting my user profile as several threads have suggested. Made no difference. I tried disabling Java in libreoffice as some threads have suggested. Also made no difference. I tried reporting a bug but the libreoffice bug submission assistant seems to just freeze. I can't post a copy of the real document as it's real original work and confidential. The only slightly unusual thing about it is the large number (several hundred) of references inserted using the bibus citation manager. It also has about 100 footnotes. Other than that it is a very simple flat file of some 15000 words. If anyone can help me get this show back on the road I would be very grateful. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
You might have already tried this but it looks like you didn't mention it. Can you download the TDF's official version instead of using one from the repos? http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=deb-x86lang=en-GB I have tried it now, and it works! Thank you very much. It messed with my desktop integration a little and put the configuration files in a different place, but when I'd worked that out it all looked good. I didn't bother with the parallel installation though, actually didn't notice that you'd shown me that link until it was too late. I guess I can go back to the debian distro when they get 3.4.6? Annoyingly the main downloads page tries to give me the .Rpm instead of the .Deb but also it lets you choose the more stable 3.4.6 instead of the 3.5.2. It worked for me, ie offered me the .deb installation. Cheers, Jonathan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
Presumably you copied the old User Profile to the new place to get your previous settings and Extensions back? Yes, did that and it worked fine. I also do some strange things like replace the dictionary files with symbolic links into my working directories so that they get shared and synchronised between my different devices. You can always try the repo version another time and then perhaps do a parallel install after that maybe. Since I noticed that the debian testing repository is allegedly the same version as TDF's (3.4.6-602) I tried using it but the problem came back. So I'll stick with TDF's version for now and wait for a new release. Cheers, Jonathan Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com wrote: From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 1:11 You might have already tried this but it looks like you didn't mention it. Can you download the TDF's official version instead of using one from the repos? http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=deb-x86〈=en-GB I have tried it now, and it works! Thank you very much. It messed with my desktop integration a little and put the configuration files in a different place, but when I'd worked that out it all looked good. I didn't bother with the parallel installation though, actually didn't notice that you'd shown me that link until it was too late. I guess I can go back to the debian distro when they get 3.4.6? Annoyingly the main downloads page tries to give me the .Rpm instead of the .Deb but also it lets you choose the more stable 3.4.6 instead of the 3.5.2. It worked for me, ie offered me the .deb installation. Cheers, Jonathan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash
Unfortunately I'm still not out of the woods. The TDF version of LibreOffice isn't detected by bibus. Which means no bibliography, which is pretty much a deal-breaker. So I played with the debian/testing version again, and managed to get it to not crash with my file by deleting my user profile. Then I rebuilt the profile... and it started crashing again. And now if I start again with a virgin profile, it still crashes. I tried to look at the source for bibus (it's all in python) to work out how it detects whether Libre/Open-Office is present, but don't know enough about the LibreOffice API to know what I'm really looking for. So I still have a basically unusable system. :( On 08/04/12 11:34, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Phew, i'm glad to hear you solved it. Presumably you copied the old User Profile to the new place to get your previous settings and Extensions back? You can always try the repo version another time and then perhaps do a parallel install after that maybe. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 8/4/12, Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com wrote: From: Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Some documents make libreoffice-writer crash To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 8 April, 2012, 1:11 You might have already tried this but it looks like you didn't mention it. Can you download the TDF's official version instead of using one from the repos? http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=deb-x86〈=en-GB I have tried it now, and it works! Thank you very much. It messed with my desktop integration a little and put the configuration files in a different place, but when I'd worked that out it all looked good. I didn't bother with the parallel installation though, actually didn't notice that you'd shown me that link until it was too late. I guess I can go back to the debian distro when they get 3.4.6? Annoyingly the main downloads page tries to give me the .Rpm instead of the .Deb but also it lets you choose the more stable 3.4.6 instead of the 3.5.2. It worked for me, ie offered me the .deb installation. Cheers, Jonathan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with Linux open nouveau video driver
An update, for anyone who may be following this thread, or stumbling on it down the track. I found that fiddling with the screen orientation using KDE's 'System Settings'-'Display and Monitor'-'Size and Orientation' made the problem go away, even if I changed the settings back to what they were before. I don't have the time or inclination to work out just why this worked, but it might provide a lead for someone else. Thanks for the suggestions! Cheers, Jonathan On 02/12/11 14:05, NoOp wrote: On 11/30/2011 05:04 PM, Jonathan Schultz wrote: Hello, For some time I've found that libreoffice (and openoffice before it) had trouble rendering text with the Linux open 'nouveau' (as opposed to the proprietary NVIDIA) driver. What appears to happen is that everything above a certain point is good, but below it the text simply doesn't appear. I've not seen any other application that has the same problem. I've attached a typical screenshot to demonstrate the effect. It always helps if you: 1) tell others what version of LO you are having issues with (and also if it is from LO or some other source; linux distribution repository or PPA, etc), 2) what OS type and version (there are about thousands of versions of linux). My /guess/ is that you are running some form of Ubuntu, if correct please tell us which version you are running. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with Linux open nouveau video driver
Thank you for the attention. On 05/12/11 08:09, NoOp wrote: sudo lshw -C video $ sudo lshw -C video *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] vendor: nVidia Corporation physical id: 0 bus info: pci@:01:00.0 version: a1 width: 32 bits clock: 66MHz capabilities: pm agp agp-3.0 vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=nouveau latency=32 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5 resources: irq:16 memory:fd00-fdff memory:e800-efff memory:fe9e-fe9f Cheers, Jonathan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with Linux open nouveau video driver
And here I thought you had an old nVida clunker like mine (NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL]) :-) Ah, Ok. I don't usually pay much attention to video cards, I'm not a gamer, I hardly even watch videos, I just want my screens to work! Perhaps giving the 173 drivers a try will resolve your issue - worth a try. That's what I was using until recently. But the latest version of xserver is incompatible with those drivers. Downgrading is one option but I'm afraid of opening a whole can of worms there. And the nouveau driver does work... almost. Anyway thanks, I'll try filing a bug report as you suggested. Cheers, Jonathan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with Linux open nouveau video driver
That is a different package/driver than the 173 and doesn't support the upgrade xserver: http://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx and is the wrong driver for your card. Sorry I don't know what I was thinking. I was obviously using the nouveau driver. Previously I'd been using the proprietary driver, but it must have been the 173 not the 71 variety. It was all working fine, after all, until the upgrade to xserver. More: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=allkeywords=GeForce+FX+5200 They still have the problem of incompatibility with xserver: The following packages have unmet dependencies: xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-173xx : Depends: xorg-video-abi-10 but it is not installable or xorg-video-abi-8 but it is not installable or xorg-video-abi-6.0 but it is not installable Depends: xserver-xorg-core ( 2:1.10.99) but 2:1.11.2.901-1 is to be installed Cheers, Jonathan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Problem with Linux open nouveau video driver
It always helps if you: 1) tell others what version of LO you are having issues with (and also if it is from LO or some other source; linux distribution repository or PPA, etc), Here are the details. I'm currently running LO version 3.4.4 OOO340m1 from the Debian sid (unstable) repository. The Debian revision number is 1:3.4.4-2. My OS is Debian/sid. The video driver is from the package xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-71xx revision 71.86.15-1 with kernel module built using nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-dkms revision 71.86.15-1 My kernel is 3.1.0-1-686-pae My video card is a dual-head GoForce something - sorry I can't seem to find the model number in /var/log/Xorg.0.log though it does mention Chipset: NVIDIA NV34 My xorg.conf is cut-and-paste below. For what it's worth, I have never had any trouble with QT apps, as some other repliers to this thread have. Only with OOo and LO. Cheers, Jonathan - Section ServerLayout identifier default screen 0 screen0 0 0 Endsection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 # Preferred resolution for the monitor Option PreferredMode 1280x1024 Option PrimaryTrue EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor1 Option PreferredMode 1280x1024 Option RightOf Monitor0 Option PrimaryFalse EndSection Section Device Identifier Device0 Driver nouveau #assigns the output DVI-I-0 to Monitor0 Option monitor-DVI-I-1 Monitor0 #assigns the output DVI-I-1 to Monitor1 Option monitor-DVI-I-2 Monitor1 EndSection Section Screen Identifier screen0 Device Device0 Monitor Monitor0 DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1280x1024 #note the lack of quotes, this line sets the 'maximum' resolution Virtual 2560 1024 EndSubSection EndSection -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Problem with Linux open nouveau video driver
Hello, For some time I've found that libreoffice (and openoffice before it) had trouble rendering text with the Linux open 'nouveau' (as opposed to the proprietary NVIDIA) driver. What appears to happen is that everything above a certain point is good, but below it the text simply doesn't appear. I've not seen any other application that has the same problem. I've attached a typical screenshot to demonstrate the effect. Has anyone else seen this problem? Cheers! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with Linux open nouveau video driver
Thanks Valimir, I just noticed that the attachment got dropped. Here is a link to the image: http://imgur.com/O8BZK This has been a consistent problem for me. I switched to the proprietary drivers, but now that they are incompatible with the latest X server version, I'm trying the open drivers once again. Cheers, Jonathan On 01/12/11 17:51, v...@ukr.net wrote: Hello! On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:04:32 +1100 Jonathan Schultzjonat...@imatix.com wrote: I've attached a typical screenshot to demonstrate the effect. Has anyone else seen this problem? Could you please post a link to the image uploaded somewhere, because it looks like the mailing list does not allow the attachments. I've been using the Nouveau driver since May 2010 and haven't noticed any problems with text representation in LO nor still in OO.o Regards, Vladimir - v...@ukr.net -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No anti-aliasing with Graphite fonts
Not if it looks any different than this: http://postimage.org/image/2apqbvxac/ Otherwise, yes it might be a good idea. Note that I set the font size at 20 so that I could easily see the difference. OK I've uploaded an image here: http://postimage.org/image/2zq4umgkk/ I think we are talking about slightly different things here - my problem is that the 10 point Libertine G basically looks nasty. I would add that this effect is dependent on the scaling and screen resolution as well as the font size. But my point remains that the Graphite font anti-aliasing doesn't seem to work properly - those vertical lines that should all have more-or-less the same weight look completely different from each other. This effect is much more pronounced at small font sizes. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No anti-aliasing with Graphite fonts
Not if it looks any different than this: http://postimage.org/image/2apqbvxac/ Otherwise, yes it might be a good idea. Note that I set the font size at 20 so that I could easily see the difference. OK I've uploaded an image here: http://postimage.org/image/2zq4umgkk/ I think we are talking about slightly different things here - my problem is that the 10 point Libertine G basically looks nasty, yours I think is about the differences between the different fonts. I would add that this effect is dependent on the scaling and screen resolution as well as the font size. But my point remains that the Graphite font anti-aliasing doesn't seem to work properly - those vertical lines that should all have more-or-less the same weight look completely different from each other. This effect is much more pronounced at small font sizes. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No anti-aliasing with Graphite fonts
You can easily see if on screen antialiasing is working: Tools|Options|LibreOffice|View|uncheck 'Screen font antialiasing' and click OK. You should notice a considerable difference. Yes it does work with other fonts, including Biolinum O and Libertine O. But those are not the same as the Graphite fonts, they don't do the glyph and kerning and other pretty things. I can certainly live with them for on-screen editing, but it would still be nice to have the Graphite versions working properly. That said, I find the fonts Linux Biolinum G and Linux Libertine G ttf fonts provided as defaults in LO do have rendering problems (particularly when viewed at standard 12 pt). They also seem to have odd version numbers with compared with the fonts from: Those fonts don't even exist in my LO - presumably it's a Debian choice not to ship them. I've installed them manually. Maybe I should ask the question on a Debian list? Still, what is strange is that the Graphite fonts work fine (ie with anti-aliasing) in other applications such as PDF viewers and the font viewer, just not in LO. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No anti-aliasing with Graphite fonts
It's easy to see the difference between the G and the O versions. I find that same when printing directly to the printer. I'm not sure if you are suggesting that they should be the same. My understanding is that they should not be the same, because the OTF versions are missing the extra graphite features. An easy test it to try typing ff in each of the fonts - in the graphite version the two fs are closer together than in the OTF version and the second f is slightly larger than the first. Where did you install them from where did you put them? I just naively installed them with the KDE font installer on one box, and the Gnome font installer on the other. That seems to have put them under /usr/local/share/fonts/ If LO is installed directly they are in the /opt folders: $ ls /opt/libreoffice3.4/basis3.4/share/fonts/truetype Obviously Debian puts these someplace else - I have no /opt/libreoffice* directory. In fact AFAICT the LO that I have includes no fonts at all. That is, I have grepped the file list from all When I tested I removed all and installed directly to ~/.fonts I have no ~/.fonts directory either. When you tried the 'Tools|Options|LibreOffice|View|uncheck 'Screen font antialiasing' did the screen Graphite fonts change in LO? Yes it did change. So it is doing some kind of anti-aliasing, but still looks wrong. Is it worth my making a screenshot? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] No anti-aliasing with Graphite fonts
Hello, Hoping this is the right forum, I wanted to ask if anyone could help me get anti-aliasing to work with Graphite fonts (Linux Biolinum G and Linux Libertine G) on LibreOffice. Without anti-aliasing it looks pretty terrible on-screen, but still very nice when exported or printed. The OpenType versions of the same fonts work fine (though without the Graphite good stuff) as do the Graphite fonts in other applications that I have tried. My system is Debian unstable, LibreOffice 3.4.3 but the problem appears on my other Debian boxes running Debian stable and OpenOffice 3.2.1. Many thanks, Jonathan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
