Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: low traffic lately?
On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 01:37:52PM +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Such attitude is dying out. Modern devices almost entirely force people into top-posting and almost all people new to mailing-lists will have no idea about the possibility of doing anything other than top-posting. Some allow users to reconfigure their devices to bottom-post but it's beyond most users. That doesn't mean they can't/shouldn't learn. Bottom posting requires a ton of extra work such as trimming and such which office workers really do not have time for. it might have been a better system but we let MS dictate how we do emailing and now we have to live with that or accept increasing unpopularity. I really hope you don't mean that trimming is a waste of time. Ever see a reply to a digest message that quoted the whole digest. What fun. Hopefully this mailing list helps people learn that bottom posting is widely used in Open Source projects and helps them become more familiar with doing so. Other successful gateway projects also use top-posting a lot, for example Firefox, Ubuntu and others. Ones that remain unpopular or have a hard time attracting new people (such as Evolution) insist on bottom posting and sees almost all enquirers leave rather than become involved. It is sad but we kinda have to live with the way things are rather than the way we might prefer them to be. That outlook would mean that we (US) would still be under British rule. Tell it to any country that has overthrown an autocratic ruler. ...snip... There is a special spot in hell for people who overquote *including multiple sigs and footers*. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: low traffic lately?
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 09:40:08AM +1000, Peter West wrote: On 6/02/2014 5:31 am, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 01:37:52PM +, Tom Davies wrote: Bottom posting requires a ton of extra work such as trimming and such which office workers really do not have time for. Trimming is a sensible thing to do, whichever way you post. It's work for the poster, not the reader, and top-posting is a benefit for the reader, not (primarily) the poster. . I really hope you don't mean that trimming is a waste of time. Ever see a reply to a digest message that quoted the whole digest. What fun. But doesn't trimming undermine the argument? How can the discussion be read sequentially when bits of it have been deleted? The idea is to leave the part of the quoted text you're replying to and yes, the discussion can still be read sequentially. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] mail format
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 01:15:26AM -0500, Doug wrote: On 01/17/2014 09:25 PM, Peter West wrote: Hi Doug, I think the best solution to your problem is to buy a copy of Microsoft Office. Peter West So his fame spread throughout all Syria... /snip/ I do not like Microsoft Office. I think it is a PITA, and I have thought so since I was using WordStar! But a standard is a standard, and whether you like it or not, the old 1997 .doc format is that standard, as nearly as there is one. LIve with it! The Model T Ford was a standard for a long time. Should people have just lived with that? .snip. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] File
On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 02:10:57PM -0400, Angelo R DeJesus wrote: I have a file which I would like someone to look at to let me know what the problem is. My question is who can I send it to? It's a CALC file. Thanks How about describing your problem? -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Cooperation in the implementation of LibreOffice
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 08:24:48PM +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Ahh, i love to see these urban myths grow. ...snip.. Wow! Never realized it was an urban legendhowever, it's only that if it *never* happened. Any info on that? -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Cooperation in the implementation of LibreOffice
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 12:11:30PM +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) No worries! It was good to hear from you and also good to get a chuckle on a day which is otherwise quite depressing or annoying for a lot of people. Plus, i had been taking the initial post wy too seriously before you pointed out 'the obvious'. No problem. Actually, I like to see stuff like this occasionally. It breaks up the monotony. ...snip.. Obviously a LOT of people were upset about the BolgenOS story but for me the most upsetting part was that 1. an IT Tutor had no idea about non-MS OSes. Even if he/she was a more generic science teacher i'd have hoped for a little less ignorance! That's common in the school systems. There's a story circulating about a principal who reamed some kid for using linux, telling him that that's a hacker's OS. Yeah, it makes me livid too. ...snip... Take care. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Cooperation in the implementation of LibreOffice
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 03:32:47PM +0400, None None wrote: Normally I don't reply to such blatant FUD but I have a lot of free time today and I'm bored. Hello, my name is Alexander , at the moment I am a programmer in OGAOU SPO Belgorod College of industry and services , country: Russia , city of Belgorod. I want to introduce into commercial operation institution package LibreOffice as an alternative package of MS Office, in order to move to the format ODF, which in our country is a national fixed state standard ( ISO / IEC 26300-2010 . Came into force on June 1, 2011 ) . However , implementation of this project gives me concerns about the advisability of this step for the following reasons : What does your country's implementation of ODF have to do with open source software? I know in many business organizations and educational institutions was an attempt to introduce LibreOffice and OpenOffice, but they all failed. Even where people were friendly to the use of these products later returned to the MS Office package due to the low quality software LibreOffice and OpenOffice ( because of the continuing occurrence of bugs and endless expectations of new releases in which errors have not been corrected ), the appearance artifacts for viewing and printing of documents created in MS Office and other non- ODF (Open Document Format). In general, the situation is that there is a standard but actually exists only on paper , in addition to MS Office 2013 support is implemented ODF, which makes it even more attractive to use. The above is a symptom of lazy or incompetent IT departments that don't or can't learn to use the software. In my opinion , free software does not justify its poor quality. Many IT professionals and PC users have an opinion about LibreOffice and OpenOffice as a shitty software, which can not be used in the workplace. You're right, that's *your* opinion. How do you account for the fact that open source software is in worldwide use every day in production environments. Just few of the many cites: http://www.infoworld.com/d/developer-world/open-source-what-you-should-learn-french-461 http://opensource.com/government/12/11/france-latest-fully-embrace-open-source http://news.cnet.com/2100-1001-272299.html In contrast to system administrators trying to implement packages LibreOffice or OpenOffice, I am a professional programmer and familiar with the process of software development. In my opinion the industrial application package LibreOffice is possible, but subject to personal contact with the immediate developers package their interest in creating a quality product and responsiveness to the comments , suggestions for improvement and immediate response on the error of the package , as well as providing operational fixes without having to wait for the official release. I believe that developers care about their product and frankly, I know that in the case to contact technical support patches can wait for years That's a feature of some closed source software, notably Microsoft. You can email them with your concerns until you're blue in the face and they will produce an update months later if then. Open source developers will cure problems usually in a few days. and a direct appeal to the developer can take it to cure is not more than 15 minutes . You must think that developers have nothing to do but wait for you to contact them. They're not on your payroll. 15 minutes is laughable except for isolated instances, not in general. Also, as a programmer, as you claim to be, you should know a 15 minute fix to a problem can introduce more bugs than it cures. My idea is to introduce a distinctive package LibreOffice is in close interaction directly with the developers and their interest in this cooperation . What in the hell does the above sentence mean? As a result of successful implementation , the package will have the right to life What does the right to life mean? and begin to be implemented in other educational institutions of Russia ( as exists between educational institutions experience exchange program , usually a methodological associations ) , as well information about the successful implementation of the same will go to the Ministry of Education of the Russian Federation and respectively wave on other ministries. This collaboration will raise the quality of software , as it will be used in the work (in the battle conditions and not on the bench) . Waiting for your reply on this proposal and look forward to working ... Don't hold your breath waiting. What tells me you're a troll is the fact that you don't know what you're talking about. If you actually are a programmer you would know better. Also you're using a broken mailer that puts long passages on one line and makes inline replies very difficult. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who
Re: [libreoffice-users] Cooperation in the implementation of LibreOffice
On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 10:53:28PM +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I don't think it's good policy to be rude to trolls. One of the things they are aiming for is to make the list seem unfriendly and then be able to quote those examples out-of-context. As I said at the top of my reply, I seldom reply to FUD but I had time on my hands and was bored. Beside, sometimes I just like to declare open season on trolls. ..snip. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 11:21:49PM -0600, Cormac Terry wrote: How do I opt-out of getting [users@global.libreoffice.org] user emails? I don't see any options in any of the emails I'm getting. Doesn't this make it spam mail? or in violation of the can-spam laws? It simply means that you fail to read the footers on the messages you receive. Observe: To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Someone, probably you, subscribed you to this mail list. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office
On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 01:32:35AM +0700, Urmas wrote: James Knott: Ever hear of Linux? Linux is a clone of UNIX, an epitome of a proprietary operating system. Wrong yet again, oh trolling one. Linux was derived from minix. it's the OS used on the space station. Proven a hoax by Agency. Citation? (that means prove it) -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Wordstar
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 07:44:11AM +0700, Urmas wrote: Paul: Microsoft, as the developers of the OS, put code in their OS to capture the Ctrl+J key combination, and not pass it on to the foreground application. However, they also put in code to allow an application to request that the key combination be passed on, code that most people, including the developers of WordStar, Or, alternatively, Microsoft, as the developers of the OS, put code in to detect a running copy of WordStar, and hide the Ctrl+J key combination from it. I'm not saying they did any of this, So you've just made that malarkey up? Wow. Hey, FUDmeister, what makes you such an authority? -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 11:14:08PM +0700, Urmas wrote: jonathon: That must be a reference to the fact that the mean time between starting MSO on Windows, and seeing the Blue Screen of Death is under sixty seconds. /yawn Or maybe it is a reference to the fact that MSO 2013 is so completely, utterly, and absolutely incompatible with MSO 2013, FUD and absurd statements will take LO nowhere. FUD you say? Pot meet kettle. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 06:43:07AM -0700, contrazz wrote: Broken link replacement: Compile from source code? Try this: http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/02/compile_software_from_source_code/ That's the one. Thanks. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 10:52:09AM +0200, Anthony Easthope wrote: But I like compiling from source complains the battle scared OS pioneer! [1]http://lifehacker.com/398611/how-to-compile-software-from-source-cod e The link leads to not found, at least for me. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 04:09:36PM -0400, James Knott wrote: Robert Holtzman wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 10:52:09AM +0200, Anthony Easthope wrote: But I like compiling from source complains the battle scared OS pioneer! [1]http://lifehacker.com/398611/how-to-compile-software-from-source-cod e The link leads to not found, at least for me. Did you notice that e that wound up on the next line? You may have to add it to the URL. My browser adds it automagically. That's not the link that doesn't work. It's the Compile Software From Source Code link one layer down. Without that the site is of little use. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing Win7
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 06:35:48PM +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I'm just installing Win7 to a machine that already had WinXp working sort-of-fine-ish. One of the early screens said the process would involve rebooting itself several times and i should ignore it and let it get on with it. Then it gave me a few choices which i had to click on. I think i had to fill in something too. (ie so i couldn't just ignore it). When it rebooted the cd/dvd stayed in the drive. Should i press Any key to get back to the installer or not. I chose to do so. Opps, wrong. Stupid user aren't i? I should have known that it kept the Cd/Dvd in the drive in order to not use it. Ooops, now it has told me to let it reboot again and ignore it. Next screen needs me to fill in something. I begin to see a pattern forming here. It asks for a user-name and decides i probably want to call the machine the same thing. The next key seemed a bit sticky. Suddenly i am passed the passwords screen without having set a password. No Back button. It's taken half an hour which is not bad. It's about the same as Ubuntu on the same machine. First thing to do is to hunt down and change the password, or even delete the non-Admin local user. 2nd is to make the machine part of the domain so all the normal desktop users can use the logins stored on the MS Exchange Server. The installer did just ask if the machine is part of a company network but i'm not sure why because i have to hunt down all that set-up myself. It's just put me on a new workgroup called WORKGROUP because they have to shout. When i get to type in a domain it's already guessed i must want the domain to have the same name as my laptop. Guess i should go around and change all the other machines to that instead of using the existing one. If i want a different domain name i have to guess it or already know it. There is no browsing to search for it. i can't be nearly right and let it give me the rest. I have to be spot on. It asks for a userpass for the domain and then gives a pop-up with a warning triangle to tell me i guessed right. It asks if i want to use the right guess or try again. Now it asks if i want to add a domain user to the local machine. 'Obviously' i made a mistake so i cancel and find the mistake i made was clicking the button Network ID instead of the button Change. Now it does guess the correct domain. Was that because i typed it in the other box or did it really find out? Still no browse button so if the guess was wrong i would have to know. Oh, the Ok button is greyed out. So although the text besides the Ok button said i could change the domain this way it doesn't use that way to confirm. Going back to the Network ID button that looked dodgy before i have to type the userpass and domain name twice in 2 different boxes and domain can only be in capital letters despite the domain name appearing everywhere else in a mix of upper and lower-case. If i do add a domain user at this point then allegedly they have full access to all the files, folders and programs anywhere on the network. I guess this is the new improved security. Now i am back at the System Properties box and Apply is greyed out so is it going to forget what i filled in like it would for changing the Virtual Memory? Now starts my endless cycle of updatesreboots. Oh, and i have to install tons of programs rather than being given nice safe 3rd party ones that i could use straight-away or swap out for my preferred ones. These updatesreboots don't make any effort to update drivers, codecs, libraries or other programs. It's just about the core OS. Later i will go to MS.com and find several critical security updates that weren't included in the auto-updates When setting the Virtual Memory it told me there were 2 other hard-drives in this laptop. Of course using a separate physical hard-drive might be quite a boost to performance if Virtual Memory ever gets used and reduces weartear. Saves the read/write head bouncing between so many different areas of the hard-drive. Just in time i remember it's talking about separate partitions on the same physical hard-drive. They just call them hard-drives because they think users are too dumb to understand the difference and need to be saved from all this complexity. I get really hacked off when people tell me this is easier than installing any GnuLinux distro. It's as though they had never actually tried either to comparecontrast. And the purpose of posting this to a libreofice list is.? -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped Homeland Security agents who fail to see the humor in Doctor Strangelove -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems?
Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice no mail client.
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 06:20:25PM +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Brucey did the famously unpatriotic song Born on the 4th of July which Ronald Reagan claimed to like despite clearly never having listened to it. A number of big-wigs were all standing around practically saluting to it as though it was the USA's national anthem but once it got beyond the chorus-line and the meaning of the song became clearer to them there were a lot of very red-faces. Good ol'Ron completely oblivious to it (or doing a good poker-face) Good ol' Ron was oblivious to a lot of things. BTW, do you always overquote? -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO
On Sun, Jun 09, 2013 at 11:50:17AM +1200, Steve Edmonds wrote: On 2013-06-08 10:10, Ken Springer wrote: On 6/7/13 3:41 AM, Tom Davies wrote: snip I too wouldn't touch Kingsoft with a barge pole. I want to steer towards using formats that will be around and usable in a few years time. I want to be able to open documents maybe 10-20 years from now without having to struggle against malware and without having to try to find long-dead versions of long dead software produced by a company that may not even exist by then. You just hope the formats will be around 10-20 years from now. There's no guaranteed the current ODT format will even be viable then. Similar to the way desktop design interfaces are basically horrible on cell phones and tablets (IMO), all of it can change almost overnight with hardware changes. And LO are doing it now. LO4 already drops previous file compatibility, if AOO maintains that compatibility I will be looking hard at it. I think you mean if AOO doesn't maintain True? I thought one of the arguments for dropping MSO in favor of LO or OOo is that MSO ceased supporting older formats when there was a new release. What formats has LO stopped supporting? -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: another funny one from ZdNet
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 06:18:44PM +0600, Urmas wrote: The article is very pro-LibreOffice but so many of the comments have a hilarious amount of FUD in them. One wonders if they have ever even tried either MSO or LO. Most people who own StarOffice or many of its forks don't use it. They just open and print documents with it. If someone tried to actually use it as a word processor, he would find some of 5+ years old bugs and lack of features much earlier. Nowadays there is no free alternative to MS Office suite and costly third-party utilities: spellchecker, bibliography/formula editors and so on. That's a hilarious statement from someone posting to a list dedicated to a free alternative to MS Office. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] beware of the m$ subsidiary
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:44:57AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2012-04-19 2:56 AM, Mark Stanton m...@vowleyfarm.co.uk wrote: 'S a good idea. Go for it. who are you talking to, and *what* is a good idea? Replying without quoting *anything* to maintain context is just as dumb as if not dumber than blindly quoting everything... +1 -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Ubuntu 11.10] How to remove LibreOffice?
On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 02:29:00PM -0400, Jay Lozier wrote: On 03/22/2012 12:54 PM, Gilles wrote: I just went ahead and ran apt-get --purge remove libreoffice-core. Incidently, this doesn't remove the LibreOffice icons in the Unity bar. Thank you. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Ubuntu-11-10-How-to-remove-LibreOffice-tp3848702p3848908.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Do you have Synaptic installed? If you do, you can use it to remove/purge all the installed LO parts. What you did only removes specific files and will leave other LO files behind. IIRC synaptic is a GUI front end for apt-get/aptitude. I don't think it will remove any more files. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unsubscribing from this list
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 09:43:29AM -0700, Ken Springer wrote: On 1/20/12 7:10 PM, Ken Springer wrote: Prior to the update to the netiquette wiki page, there was a link to a web page that told people how to make posts to newsgroups. Found it :-) Congratulations. Now, how about posting it? -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Which Conflicts?
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 06:39:27PM -0400, planas wrote: On Sat, 2011-10-08 at 14:19 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: I would be concerned with the reason the 32 bit program wouldn't run correctly. Everything I've read says 32 bit progs run just fine on a 64 bit system. On Windows 32 bit packages will often run on 64 bit OS but on Linux that is often not true. Various Linux lists are where I picked that up. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Which Conflicts?
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 11:39:14AM +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Ouch! Perhaps just reboot the machine (rofls). That typical Windows answer has actually helped me in Ubuntu sometimes which was worrying! Just closing and then re-opening the package manager might help as they seem to do a bit of tidying and fresh scanning in the process. In no particular order ... Can you install the 64bit as though installing it in parallel with an 'existing' install (even tho the 'existing' one has been uninstalled)? http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel I'm not sure how that page does it so it might be fairly unhelpful. Have you tried re-installing the 32bit again and see if that has problems too? If not it might uninstall more cleanly 2nd time around or you might spot what's going wrong now you know to watch for problems. Have you used the package manager to search for installed items to do with libreoffice/soffice, checked the history of the last actions the package manager took? Again i am not sure if it would help but it's probably the easiest thing to look at quickly even if it's not helpful. I would be concerned with the reason the 32 bit program wouldn't run correctly. Everything I've read says 32 bit progs run just fine on a 64 bit system. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Digest Format
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:15:10PM -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I do not remember ever seeing a email based list that worked, and a good threading/grouping system for any of the email clients I have used. Have you looked at Alpine or Mutt? -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Digest Format
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 01:33:20PM -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: Email list usually are not thread based, unless your client combines emails with the same subject into thread-like groupings. I think Nabble does some threading though, but I do not use Nabble often. Yes, I have seen many lists/forums that are threaded, some good and some bad. Does the above sentence contradict the previous one? -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 01:37:51PM -0600, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2011-09-08 1:12 PM Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Look, the interspersed answers from Larry are practically unidentifiable from the message. By posting at the top (or bottom) it would have been clearer which were your answers. Every line of the post I am replying to has a in front of it if using a plain text reader. In thunderbird as I have it configured there is a coloured vertical line before all of the text I am replying to and not in front of my reply. Whether that shows up is a function of what MUA you use to read the message, or perhaps what the list software does. I use Mutt and your posts show a before the first character of the first line of quote and a + before each subsequent line of the quoted passage. Also, you don't isolate the quote from what you write with one or more blank lines top and bottom. This adds to the confusion, at least for me. I was giving specific answers to each part of your post. Interspersing makes it clear what specific point I was responding to. True. snip... -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 07:58:52PM +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I use a standard email client in a standard way set on it's defaults. There are likely to be more people using such systems as LibreOffice becomes more popular. Hold onto your hats! Is someone holding a gun to your head to force you to use your mail client's defaults? Why are people in here so determined to make things unpleasant and difficult for normal office workers? Is LibreOffice not meant to be used in offices by office workers? Regards from Do the defaults include not trimming or wrapping your lines? snip of superfluous crap -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Subject lines - another gripe...
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:04:28PM +0100, Nuno J. Silva wrote: On 2011-09-08, Robert Holtzman wrote: Messages are not threaded on subject. For a test reply to a message in a thread and change the subject line. It should still appear in the thread. You will occasionally see someone admonished on a list for replying to a threaded message, changing the subject line, and writing about an unrelated subject. Robert, the issue is that OP's mail client actually does threading based on subject, instead of relying on threading information. So if he did that, he would actually see two different threads. (So, indeed, normal threading does not work this way, but Pegasus' threading does.) So I gathered from reading subsequent posts. Hadn't heard of it before. What a great reason not to use Pegasus. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Top Posting... Can we have an LO Mailing List Guidelines Page?
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 08:45:26AM -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: For long threads, scrolling down to the bottom to read the new stuff is a pain. That only happens when people are too clueless or too lazy to trim their replies. ...snip of material that should never have been quoted... -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Subject lines - another gripe...
On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 05:02:12PM +0100, Dave Sergeant wrote: I use Pegasus Mail and view the posts threaded, which by and large works excellently. No need to quote lots in mails as it is very easy to locate the original mails. But Pegasus Mail truncates subject lines, as displayed in folder views, to 35 characters, something that will be changed in a later version of Pegasus but not for a while yet. Each email on this list is prefixed with [libreoffice-users] together with various [re:], [fwd:] and other things. Net result is that there are very few characters left out of the 35 to accurately thread on, and I get all sorts of totally different things threaded together. If the list admin changed this to something like [lo-users] or even [lou] it would make threading far more reliable. Messages are not threaded on subject. For a test reply to a message in a thread and change the subject line. It should still appear in the thread. You will occasionally see someone admonished on a list for replying to a threaded message, changing the subject line, and writing about an unrelated subject. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] If you want to UNSUBSCRIBE please read this
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 02:20:47PM +0200, francis.lebou...@algo.be wrote: If you want to unsubscribe look a the List-Unsubscribe: header in any email from the list. That is send an email to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org to get instructions. Don't send an email to the list. The same people that don't read the footers don't read or even know the headers are there, much less how to show them. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: top and bottom - again. was (Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF.......)
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 10:17:20AM -0500, Roland Hughes wrote: Yes, we still have a few relics of a by-gone era whining and sniveling that one should properly trim like Glenn Beck and Fox News to completely change the meaning of sentences taken out of context so they can add meaning to their own little worlds, but the industry has moved on. From the above you don't seem to understand what trimming is or how it's used. Oh well, thats your privilege. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Is this list unmoderated?
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 11:05:45AM +0200, James Wilde wrote: Personally I think mailing lists are so last century and nerdy, and that we should be using a forum which non-technical users like Which is precisely the reason I dislike forums. Way too many brainless questions from users (and I use the term loosely) who barely know how to turn on their computer. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] OT Top/Bottom posting
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:26:58PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 22:24, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: So, the argument is that people should follow rules(although they are really only guidelines) in order to not be a drone?? and you say that someone elses argument is silly! lol Regards from ...snip.. Please, for the sake of the archives and those who use them, please stop top posting. His posts indicate he's doing it just to be different. He doesn't care how much it inconveniences any one else. It's akin to a child saying I can do anything I want. My Mommy said so. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users]
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 06:18:30AM -0700, Brian Gillespie wrote: Enough of all this useless jabber coming from disgruntled users. Ive removed the entire libreoffice suite as it does'nt fill my expectations or needs. Please cease all the e-mails offering ? Could unsubscribing possibly be the answer? Gee, you think so? -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: I am downloading LibreOffice to try it out.
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 01:42:54AM -0700, aqualung wrote: .snip Mailing lists are not convenient or agreeable to the general public. Could you please elaborate on this? I'm not sure why it should be so. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibO for Ubuntu
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 08:50:01PM +0800, David Nelson wrote: Hi, :-) On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 20:29, James Wilde james.wi...@sunde-wilde.com wrote: Have I missed something, or is LibO really not to be found amongst the apps available via Synaptic or the new Ubuntu Software Centre? Search for libreoffice rather than LibO... It's there in 10.10... Also in 10.04. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top-posting
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 09:32:42PM -0600, T. R. Valentine wrote: On 18 February 2011 21:21, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 07:58:41PM -0600, T. R. Valentine wrote: On 17 February 2011 18:58, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: You have something against trimming quotes? Too much work. One just hits reply, types where the cursor appears (on top) and hits send. Are you *trying* to be irritating or just trolling? Neither. And the fact that the worst offender **agreed** with the statement proved my point. I didn't see that you expressed a point. It seemed that you were simply bragging about ignoring email conventions. What worst offender have you reference to? -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top-posting
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:28:03AM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: Too much work. One just hits reply, types where the cursor appears (on top) and hits send. Are you *trying* to be irritating or just trolling? Neither. And the fact that the worst offender **agreed** with the statement proved my point. I didn't see that you expressed a point. It seemed that you were simply bragging about ignoring email conventions. What worst offender have you reference to? I seldom reply to my own posts but I'll make an exception. *If* what you originally posted was sarcasm and I missed it, I apologize. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top-posting
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 07:58:08PM +, Tom Davies wrote: snip. At first i was prepared to accept that there might be technical reasons why bottom posting is better but now i am beginning to think that anything except top posting is insane. That's undoubtedly the reason many mailing lists suggest doing it. You have something against trimming quotes? -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 07:29:17PM +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) No, i wasn't saying that anyone was deliberately unfriendly but i think we need to have better ways of dealing with top-posters because we often give an appearance of rudeness. Check this site: http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html especially the part about curt answers. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] top- or bottom- quoting
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 05:38:16PM +, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Almost every office user i know (at least the few that use email) posts at the top of mails and leaves the previous posts dangling downwards along with any signatures. Some corporate users get all the previous thread deleted off the bottom and a disclaimer added to the bottom. So, at best they stick with the defaults, the easiest thing. The question is how much we want to alienate first-time users and office users? Who is more important to please, 'geeks' or potential new users? Is there something wrong with educating new users? -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 08:49:30AM -0700, Ken Springer wrote: .snip And only Bob Holtzman's reply tweaked my sensibilities, as the saying goes. But I didn't want to fall into the Tom and Dick story line I posted, so I sat back for a couple hours before writing my reply. .snip Glad to see I haven't lost my touch. Actually, several of the things you wrote lit my fuse too, so I guess we're about even. Truce? -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [OT]F6[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and OpenOffice
On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 09:29:47AM -0700, Ken Springer wrote: And I prefer HTML. It makes it easier when people send you an email that has inline photos of the grandkid or something else they find interesting. I've used email clients in the past that didn't support HTML. To me, we each have our preferences, which is fine as long as we recognize those preferences, and that neither one is right or wrong. Not quite. http://www.woodgate.org/FAQs/netiquette.html. Including files in any format other than straight ASCII is to be avoided. The use of uuencoded files, zipped files or even HTML files are likely to mean that nobody will read your message. In some groups it will result in the message being rejected. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: stables Re: [libreoffice-users] Very unhappy camper
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 05:48:20PM -0800, Mark wrote: On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Robert Holtzman hol...@cox.net wrote: On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 06:46:58AM +, Katheryne Draven wrote: Im not spreading FUD, I'm speaking from my experience. When I tried to introduce linux via ubuntu, it was a disaster. However, given the amount of harsh/childish comments (not you Tom) I'll keep my experiences to myself. So much for freedom in FOSS. I'll end with the fact that some of you should be very ashamed of yourselves. Not FUD? I didn't notice in your post that you made any attempt to research your problem via forums, mailing lists, etc. Did you try redownloading, burning another CD and reinstalling? A search on your name turned up no posts requesting help with Ubuntu. Bob, your wasting your time on someone who admits, When I tried to introduce linux via ubuntu, it was a disaster. I know. I just enjoy rubbing their noses in it once in a while. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: stables Re: [libreoffice-users] Very unhappy camper
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 04:36:58AM +, Katheryne Draven wrote: Fuck off all of you. How's that? Yup. Troll. NoOp was right. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Something wrong with disc...@documentfoundation.org?
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 01:27:27PM -0800, Mark wrote: What is discuss? This list (where I got your message and to which I am replying) is users@libreoffice.org - are you sure this is the same list? Look at the subject line. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.libreoffice.org/lists/users/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
