Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill down with a twist
At 13:44 19/09/2014 +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote: At 11:37 19/09/2014 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: At 09:01 19/09/2014 +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote: If a cell A1 contains '=B1' and I fill-down from A1 to A3, I get references to B2 and B3 for the two new cells. Is it possible to fill down, but scan right? E.g. make A2 become C1 and A3 become D1? Maybe what you are looking for is something involving Edit - Paste Special - tick the transpose box This does almost what I want, except it copies values, and it does not insert references. So use Edit | Paste Special... and tick both Transpose and Link under Options. Voilà! Note that your intermediate column copy of your data can be out of the way elsewhere on the sheet, out of any print range - or even on a separate sheet. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Fill down with a twist.
Hey folks, If a cell A1 contains '=B1' and I fill-down from A1 to A3, I get references to B2 and B3 for the two new cells. Is it possible to fill down, but scan right? E.g. make A2 become C1 and A3 become D1? Thanks, -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ a warm bed in a house sounds a mite better than eating a hot dog on a stick with an old geezer traveling on a lawn mower. -- alvin straight (the straight story) spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill down with a twist.
Hi Martin, I haven't tested this myself yet, but I would suspect, that if you fill in the first two or three cells manually, then mark all 3 cells and use the mouse to fill in the rest, it will do what you want. Sigrid -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill down with a twist.
also sprach Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com [2014-09-19 10:18 +0200]: I haven't tested this myself yet, but I would suspect, that if you fill in the first two or three cells manually, then mark all 3 cells and use the mouse to fill in the rest, it will do what you want. Good idea, but unfortuately, it does not work. If the two cells are B1 and C1 with references to A1 and A2, then selecting both cells and extending the selection right will create pairs of B1/B2 and C1/C2. The same applies to vertical extension/filling. -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ alle menschen zerfallen, wie zu allen zeiten so auch jetzt noch, in sklaven und freie; denn wer von seinem tag nicht zwei drittel für sich hat, ist ein sklave, er sei übrigens wer er wolle: staatsmann, kaufmann, beamter, gelehrter. - friedrich nietzsche spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill down with a twist.
Hi :) I'm not completely sure why you are trying to do this. Context could be useful. Maybe what you are looking for is something involving Edit - Paste Special - tick the transpose box For example if cell B1 = 1 C1 = 2 D1 = 3 E1 = 4 then you can select B1-E1, (Ctrl c or another way to copy), click on cell A2 and then doing Edit - Paste Special - transpose gives A2 = 1 A3 = 2 A4 = 3 A5 = 4 If you extend that idea so that B2 = B1 C2 = C1 D2 = D1 E2 = E1 and then select B2-E2, cut (or copy), click in A2 and then do Edit - PasteSpecial - transpose then A2 = B1 A3 = C1 A4 = D1 A5 = E1 It's not very elegant! It's worth knowing that if you click a cell and don't try to drag the selection just use any scrolling method to get to the end of the line and then Shift click then everything between the previous cell you clicked on and the new one all gets selected. Also if you click on the first cell and then use Shift Ctrl keyboard-arrow then it takes you to where it thinks the end of the line is. You might need to press the keyboard arrow a few more times without lifting your finger(s) from Shift Ctrl to get to the real end. To adjust by 1 cell at a time try Shift keyboard-arrow There might be some other way that is more elegant. I'd be tempted to go via a text-editor because it might be faster in some cases. It risks losing formulas though so it might not be at all suitable for your case. In the spreadsheet program do File - Save As... - csv maybe right-click on the csv to open in a text-editor such as Notepad or GEdit or Kate or Leafpad or something and do Find (or search) and replace to change all the commas into newline characters. Hmmm, ok so the transpose method is probably more elegant than that!! Regards from Tom :) On 19 September 2014 10:30, martin f krafft madd...@madduck.net wrote: also sprach Sigrid Carrera sigrid.carr...@gmail.com [2014-09-19 10:18 +0200]: I haven't tested this myself yet, but I would suspect, that if you fill in the first two or three cells manually, then mark all 3 cells and use the mouse to fill in the rest, it will do what you want. Good idea, but unfortuately, it does not work. If the two cells are B1 and C1 with references to A1 and A2, then selecting both cells and extending the selection right will create pairs of B1/B2 and C1/C2. The same applies to vertical extension/filling. -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ alle menschen zerfallen, wie zu allen zeiten so auch jetzt noch, in sklaven und freie; denn wer von seinem tag nicht zwei drittel für sich hat, ist ein sklave, er sei übrigens wer er wolle: staatsmann, kaufmann, beamter, gelehrter. - friedrich nietzsche spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill down with a twist.
also sprach Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com [2014-09-19 12:37 +0200]: I'm not completely sure why you are trying to do this. Context could be useful. I have a table with assumptions about conference days in a budget, and the days are in columns left-to-right. In the overview, I need the days to appear top-to-bottom. It's *painful* to do this by hand. Edit - Paste Special - tick the transpose box This does almost what I want, except it copies values, and it does not insert references. If you extend that idea so that B2 = B1 C2 = C1 D2 = D1 E2 = E1 and then select B2-E2, cut (or copy), click in A2 and then do Edit - PasteSpecial - transpose then A2 = B1 A3 = C1 A4 = D1 A5 = E1 Right, except I would like A2 to be '=B2' and A3 to be '=C2' etc. Does this make sense? -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ i might disagree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. -- voltaire spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill down with a twist.
Hi :) Weird! I was expecting the last part to work. Just to check that we are talking about the same thing - in that last part i meant; Create (perhaps by inserting a new row 3 temporarily?) B3 = '=B2' C3 = '=C2' D3 = '=D2' E3 = '=E2' etc and then select all them, copy and transpose 'into' A2 and onwards. Does that not work? Regards from Tom :) On 19 September 2014 12:44, martin f krafft madd...@madduck.net wrote: also sprach Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com [2014-09-19 12:37 +0200]: I'm not completely sure why you are trying to do this. Context could be useful. I have a table with assumptions about conference days in a budget, and the days are in columns left-to-right. In the overview, I need the days to appear top-to-bottom. It's *painful* to do this by hand. Edit - Paste Special - tick the transpose box This does almost what I want, except it copies values, and it does not insert references. If you extend that idea so that B2 = B1 C2 = C1 D2 = D1 E2 = E1 and then select B2-E2, cut (or copy), click in A2 and then do Edit - PasteSpecial - transpose then A2 = B1 A3 = C1 A4 = D1 A5 = E1 Right, except I would like A2 to be '=B2' and A3 to be '=C2' etc. Does this make sense? -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ i might disagree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. -- voltaire spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill down with a twist. [SOLVED w/ hack]
also sprach Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com [2014-09-19 13:56 +0200]: Create (perhaps by inserting a new row 3 temporarily?) B3 = '=B2' C3 = '=C2' D3 = '=D2' E3 = '=E2' etc and then select all them, copy and transpose 'into' A2 and onwards. Does that not work? No. :( If I take that temporary row 3 and paste it into the four fields in the destination column G1:G4, then the references get rotated too. I.e. the result will be: G1 = '=F1' G2 = '=F2' G3 = '=F3' G4 = '=F4' This is because row three in the above always references the cell above, and after transposing with paste-special, the resulting cells are modified to reference the respective cell to the left. If I change B3:E3 to '=B$2':'=E$3', I get an error 522 in the result, because the cells are now all '=G$2', which is a self-reference. If I change B3:E3 to '=$B2':'=$E2', I get the following weird result: G1 = '=$B#REF!' G2 = '=C1' G3 = '=D2' G4 = '=E3' But if I change B3:E3 to all absolute references, then it works. Super! Thank you for that hint. It's a hack, but it works. -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ der glaube an den kausalnexus ist der aberglaube -- wittgenstein spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[Solved] Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill down with a twist. [SOLVED w/ hack]
Hi :) Congrats! Nicely found! :)) Some good experimentation and interesting results there! Congrats and regards from Tom :) On 19 September 2014 15:00, martin f krafft madd...@madduck.net wrote: also sprach Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com [2014-09-19 13:56 +0200]: Create (perhaps by inserting a new row 3 temporarily?) B3 = '=B2' C3 = '=C2' D3 = '=D2' E3 = '=E2' etc and then select all them, copy and transpose 'into' A2 and onwards. Does that not work? No. :( If I take that temporary row 3 and paste it into the four fields in the destination column G1:G4, then the references get rotated too. I.e. the result will be: G1 = '=F1' G2 = '=F2' G3 = '=F3' G4 = '=F4' This is because row three in the above always references the cell above, and after transposing with paste-special, the resulting cells are modified to reference the respective cell to the left. If I change B3:E3 to '=B$2':'=E$3', I get an error 522 in the result, because the cells are now all '=G$2', which is a self-reference. If I change B3:E3 to '=$B2':'=$E2', I get the following weird result: G1 = '=$B#REF!' G2 = '=C1' G3 = '=D2' G4 = '=E3' But if I change B3:E3 to all absolute references, then it works. Super! Thank you for that hint. It's a hack, but it works. -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ der glaube an den kausalnexus ist der aberglaube -- wittgenstein spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill down with a twist.
Hi, Am 19.09.2014 um 09:01 schrieb martin f krafft: If a cell A1 contains '=B1' and I fill-down from A1 to A3, I get references to B2 and B3 for the two new cells. Is it possible to fill down, but scan right? E.g. make A2 become C1 and A3 become D1? This formula in A1 should behave as you desire: =OFFSET($B$1;0;ROW()-ROW($B$1)) Cheers, Stefan -- LibreOffice - Die Freiheit nehm' ich mir! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Fill down with a twist.
also sprach Stefan Weigel stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org [2014-09-19 18:55 +0200]: This formula in A1 should behave as you desire: =OFFSET($B$1;0;ROW()-ROW($B$1)) Yeah, I've since found OFFSET() as well, but as you can imagine, my functions aren't just simple references, and using OFFSET() actually makes it totally unreadable. Tbh, I was also wondering why this isn't a use-case for a pivot table, given that I simply pivot data 90°… -- @martinkrafft | http://madduck.net/ | http://two.sentenc.es/ a qui sait comprendre, peu de mots suffisent. -- intelligenti pauca spamtraps: madduck.bo...@madduck.net -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
