Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-11-13 Thread Jay Lozier

On 11/12/2011 12:04 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I recently installed Ubuntu 11.xx on an old IBM server.  11.04 stated 
that I did not have the resources to run Unity, so it was good.  Then 
when I allowed it to upgrade to 11.10, that version was able to use 
my system's resources to install and use Unity.  Also, during that 
upgrade to 11.10, the system decided that I did not need any of my KDE 
packages anymore and got rid of them - without even asking me first.


I discovered one major thing.  I hate Unity.  It will not keep some 
monitor packages visible in my desktop, like I want/need.  I could not 
even find half of the things I wanted to use that was part of Ubuntu's 
package.


I did not like the way the system changed the look and feel of 
LibreOffice.


So I went to Linux Mint 11.  Works nice, except I cannot get any 
videos to play correctly - sound OK but no visuals.  Looks like I will 
have to try Kubuntu 11.xx and see how that works.


At least with the IBM server's PCI video card, my monitor can handle 
the highest resolution of 1152 by 864, though I never have seen that 
number before.


Thanks friends.
Now I know that I do not want anything to do with Unity.  Also the 
articles currently state GNOME 3 is not ready [by a long shot] for use 
even thought it was stated that GNOME 3 was available for download and 
use.


Check webup8 at http://www.webupd8.org/ for information about 
installing GNOME 3


On 11/12/2011 11:31 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
For the last several releases of Ubuntu, ever since the 9.10, i have 
found that the Try it option does NOT work on any machine that i 
have tried.  What does seem to work is to 1st click on install but at 
one of the first screens there start clicking on the Back button 
until you get back to the screen that offers the Try it option.  
Then Try it works without hanging the system.

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Wed, 19/10/11, Don C. Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com  wrote:

From: Don C. Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 
(Unity 3D)

To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 19 October, 2011, 17:59

Hi,

All cd's and burners are not created equal. I've had several 
instances where a live Ubuntu cd would not work on one computer, but 
worked perfectly on another. If you burned it the computer you are 
trying to boot it on, it should work. If you have both a burner and a 
player, try it in both. If it was burned on a different player, 
please burn one on the computer you are trying to boot from, and then 
try booting from the burner drive.


Don

On 10/19/2011 08:22 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 10/18/2011 09:33 PM, Don Myers wrote:
In your BIOS, make sure when you are booting that it is checking 
you CD/DVD drives before your hard drive. I needed to do this and 
change the boot order so I could preview and also install 11.10.


It was that way before I went to a dual boot system.  It still set 
for that.

Don

On 10/18/2011 08:18 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a live demo on a Ubuntu 
system.  My only Windows machine I have working is dual boot and I 
cannot get it to boot from the CD.  It keeps going to GRUB.  When 
I choose Win Vista, it does not boot from the CD then.  So I 
cannot see what 11.10 looks like.  Since it wants to boot at 1920 
by 1080 [nVidia MoB graphics] and my monitor max out at 1368 by 
768, it causes problems.


I still will use GNOME/KDE combo for my desktop and packages.


On 10/18/2011 05:18 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I really quite like the 11.10.  When i tried the 11.04 i really 
hated it but the 11.10 is a big improvement.  I still prefer 
traditional menus such as KDE or Gnome or any of the others but i 
get the feeling Unity is worth getting to know.  I like the way 
the top-taskbar becomes the title-bar when you hover the mouse 
arrow over it and i really like the way that accessing 
LibreOffice and Firefox is so easy! ;)

Regards from
Tom :)











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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-11-12 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I recently installed Ubuntu 11.xx on an old IBM server.  11.04 stated 
that I did not have the resources to run Unity, so it was good.  Then 
when I allowed it to upgrade to 11.10, that version was able to use my 
system's resources to install and use Unity.  Also, during that upgrade 
to 11.10, the system decided that I did not need any of my KDE packages 
anymore and got rid of them - without even asking me first.


I discovered one major thing.  I hate Unity.  It will not keep some 
monitor packages visible in my desktop, like I want/need.  I could not 
even find half of the things I wanted to use that was part of Ubuntu's 
package.


I did not like the way the system changed the look and feel of 
LibreOffice.


So I went to Linux Mint 11.  Works nice, except I cannot get any videos 
to play correctly - sound OK but no visuals.  Looks like I will have to 
try Kubuntu 11.xx and see how that works.


At least with the IBM server's PCI video card, my monitor can handle the 
highest resolution of 1152 by 864, though I never have seen that number 
before.


Thanks friends.
Now I know that I do not want anything to do with Unity.  Also the 
articles currently state GNOME 3 is not ready [by a long shot] for use 
even thought it was stated that GNOME 3 was available for download and use.




On 11/12/2011 11:31 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
For the last several releases of Ubuntu, ever since the 9.10, i have found that the Try it option does NOT 
work on any machine that i have tried.  What does seem to work is to 1st click on install but at one of the first 
screens there start clicking on the Back button until you get back to the screen that offers the Try 
it option.  Then Try it works without hanging the system.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Wed, 19/10/11, Don C. Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com  wrote:

From: Don C. Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 19 October, 2011, 17:59

Hi,

All cd's and burners are not created equal. I've had several instances where a 
live Ubuntu cd would not work on one computer, but worked perfectly on another. 
If you burned it the computer you are trying to boot it on, it should work. If 
you have both a burner and a player, try it in both. If it was burned on a 
different player, please burn one on the computer you are trying to boot from, 
and then try booting from the burner drive.

Don

On 10/19/2011 08:22 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 10/18/2011 09:33 PM, Don Myers wrote:

In your BIOS, make sure when you are booting that it is checking you CD/DVD 
drives before your hard drive. I needed to do this and change the boot order so 
I could preview and also install 11.10.


It was that way before I went to a dual boot system.  It still set for that.

Don

On 10/18/2011 08:18 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a live demo on a Ubuntu system.  My only 
Windows machine I have working is dual boot and I cannot get it to boot from the CD.  It 
keeps going to GRUB.  When I choose Win Vista, it does not boot from the CD then.  So I 
cannot see what 11.10 looks like.  Since it wants to boot at 1920 by 1080 [nVidia MoB 
graphics] and my monitor max out at 1368 by 768, it causes problems.

I still will use GNOME/KDE combo for my desktop and packages.


On 10/18/2011 05:18 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I really quite like the 11.10.  When i tried the 11.04 i really hated it but 
the 11.10 is a big improvement.  I still prefer traditional menus such as KDE 
or Gnome or any of the others but i get the feeling Unity is worth getting to 
know.  I like the way the top-taskbar becomes the title-bar when you hover the 
mouse arrow over it and i really like the way that accessing LibreOffice and 
Firefox is so easy! ;)
Regards from
Tom :)








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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-19 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 10/18/2011 09:33 PM, Don Myers wrote:
In your BIOS, make sure when you are booting that it is checking you 
CD/DVD drives before your hard drive. I needed to do this and change 
the boot order so I could preview and also install 11.10.



It was that way before I went to a dual boot system.  It still set for that.

Don

On 10/18/2011 08:18 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a live demo on a Ubuntu system.  
My only Windows machine I have working is dual boot and I cannot get 
it to boot from the CD.  It keeps going to GRUB.  When I choose Win 
Vista, it does not boot from the CD then.  So I cannot see what 11.10 
looks like.  Since it wants to boot at 1920 by 1080 [nVidia MoB 
graphics] and my monitor max out at 1368 by 768, it causes problems.


I still will use GNOME/KDE combo for my desktop and packages.


On 10/18/2011 05:18 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I really quite like the 11.10.  When i tried the 11.04 i really 
hated it but the 11.10 is a big improvement.  I still prefer 
traditional menus such as KDE or Gnome or any of the others but i 
get the feeling Unity is worth getting to know.  I like the way the 
top-taskbar becomes the title-bar when you hover the mouse arrow 
over it and i really like the way that accessing LibreOffice and 
Firefox is so easy! ;)

Regards from
Tom :)









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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-19 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


For some reason, when I went to a dual boot system, my laptop's wireless 
stopped working, and booting from a CD stopped as well.  All I get is 
the GRUB screen to choose between Ubuntu and Vista.  With OSs on the 
system, I do not have more than 15 gig for Ubuntu 10.xx and 30 gig for 
Vista.


My bios is set for CD/DVD before hard drive booting.

Now all I need to do is find out how to make sure Ubuntu/Kubuntu would 
boot to my monitors resolution [1368x768] instead of the maximum that 
the on board nVidia graphics can do [1920x1080].  I may just wait till I 
get my new monitor, in a few months.


Before I had to make the Vista laptop dual boot, I had no problems with 
seeing the live CD/DVDs.  That is how I first chose Ubuntu out of the 
pack.  It was the only one that worked in live mode with the old HP 
laptop's sound card.  That was version 9.xx.  Hopefully I will get that 
one back from a loan out soon.  Then I can just dump the dual booting on 
the Vista machine.  It is due for a wipe and re-install.  Now that I do 
not use it to store my data on, I can do that with ease.


As for Unity 3D, I think my on board video can handle it, but I will not 
want to use Unity.  After the monitor purchase, I will be buying a GPU 
video card, ATI 4850 or better.  It will be about the same cost as the 
monitor, but give me GPU computing for my BOINC number crunching and do 
about 100 times the amount of crunching as my Phenom 9650 quad CPU gives me.




On 10/19/2011 12:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
This guide might help
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD
Even though it is written for Ubuntu it is almost identical for other distros 
as usual ;)

When you try to boot an Ubuntu Cd it gives you a pop=-up screen with a language 
selector and 2 buttons
1. Try Ubuntu (this often doesn't work and just hangs the system)
2. Install Ubuntu (has lots of Back buttons)
Soi click on the Install and then at click on the Back buttons until i get back to 
that screen with the language selector and the 2 options.  Now the Try Ubuntu button works!  I 
keep forgetting to post a bug-report about it.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Wed, 19/10/11, Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com  wrote:


From: Don Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 19 October, 2011, 2:33
In your BIOS, make sure when you are
booting that it is checking you CD/DVD drives before your
hard drive. I needed to do this and change the boot order so
I could preview and also install 11.10.

Don

On 10/18/2011 08:18 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote:

I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a live demo on a

Ubuntu system.  My only Windows machine I have working
is dual boot and I cannot get it to boot from the CD. 
It keeps going to GRUB.  When I choose Win Vista, it

does not boot from the CD then.  So I cannot see what
11.10 looks like.  Since it wants to boot at 1920 by
1080 [nVidia MoB graphics] and my monitor max out at 1368 by
768, it causes problems.

I still will use GNOME/KDE combo for my desktop and

packages.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-19 Thread Don C. Myers

Hi,

All cd's and burners are not created equal. I've had several instances 
where a live Ubuntu cd would not work on one computer, but worked 
perfectly on another. If you burned it the computer you are trying to 
boot it on, it should work. If you have both a burner and a player, try 
it in both. If it was burned on a different player, please burn one on 
the computer you are trying to boot from, and then try booting from the 
burner drive.


Don

On 10/19/2011 08:22 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

On 10/18/2011 09:33 PM, Don Myers wrote:
In your BIOS, make sure when you are booting that it is checking you 
CD/DVD drives before your hard drive. I needed to do this and change 
the boot order so I could preview and also install 11.10.


It was that way before I went to a dual boot system.  It still set for 
that.

Don

On 10/18/2011 08:18 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a live demo on a Ubuntu system.  
My only Windows machine I have working is dual boot and I cannot get 
it to boot from the CD.  It keeps going to GRUB.  When I choose Win 
Vista, it does not boot from the CD then.  So I cannot see what 
11.10 looks like.  Since it wants to boot at 1920 by 1080 [nVidia 
MoB graphics] and my monitor max out at 1368 by 768, it causes 
problems.


I still will use GNOME/KDE combo for my desktop and packages.


On 10/18/2011 05:18 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I really quite like the 11.10.  When i tried the 11.04 i really 
hated it but the 11.10 is a big improvement.  I still prefer 
traditional menus such as KDE or Gnome or any of the others but i 
get the feeling Unity is worth getting to know.  I like the way the 
top-taskbar becomes the title-bar when you hover the mouse arrow 
over it and i really like the way that accessing LibreOffice and 
Firefox is so easy! ;)

Regards from
Tom :)











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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread chimak111
Hi,
I installed lo-menubar from the Ubuntu Software Center which is said to
provide a Global Menu rather than a program-specific one.

While the installation is successful and the extension works as stated, I
would like to disable or remove it because I now realise that it does have
*Windows* as part of the Global Menu.
There's File, Edit, View, Insert, Format, Tools, Help ... but no *Windows*.
I'm used to relying on *Windows* and then opening a new window of the same
document. Additionally, LibreOffice would remember how I arrange two Windows
and open the second window just the way I like it.

Since Windows is missing, I have to work around by going to File, New
Document which I don't like.

When I look in Tools, Extension Manager, I see three extensions listed:
Copy Visible cells (which I had installed on LibreOffice 3.3 / Natty and
which has been retained during the upgrade to 11.10)
menubar (installed via Ubuntu Software Center)
Script Provider for Python 3.3.0 (which seems to have been there by default
since I didn't install it)

The last two, menubar and Script Provider have little locks next to them.

While the first, Copy visible cells has a disable/remove option, the two
with locks next to them don't. So it looks like I cannot disable or remove
menubar unless someone helps me!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


Unity looks good, sometimes, so I have been told.  But for people use to 
GNOME or KDE, I would make sure those desktops are installed and set 
them as the default.  Everything I have read, and heard, makes me fee 
that will be my only choice, once I get my monitor issues fixed so I can 
install 11.xx.  It may be worse with Win 8 and its Ribbon style of 
desktop.  Good for touch pads but not of desktops.  That menu form is 
what many of my MSO users would not go beyond MSO 2003 or switched to 
OOo and then LO.




On 10/18/2011 11:05 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Which version of Ubuntu are you using?

It might be easier to try to uninstall things using the package manager while 
LibreOffice is closed.  Perhaps the lock is due to LibreOffice being open?

In Ubuntu 10.10 and earlier try the top taskbar and click on

System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager

I don't know how to do that in Ubuntu 11.10 or 11.04.  If you are using one of 
them then perhaps open a command-line / terminal-console and try

gksu synaptic

to open Synaptic?
Either way once open the sesarhc tools should help you find the extensions.  I would 
search for libreoffice and then click the top of the column that has the 
green splodges in it that indicate packages that are installed.  Hopefully that will get 
all the installed packages, extensions and all to the top so you can just scroll down to 
find the one you want.

The package manager ususally searches in descriptions as well as titles so a 
straight-forwards search might just give you the right thing straight away but 
i'm a bit pessimistic about that sort of thing ;)

Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Tue, 18/10/11, chimak111chimak...@gmail.com  wrote:


From: chimak111chimak...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 15:13
Hi,
I installed lo-menubar from the Ubuntu Software Center
which is said to
provide a Global Menu rather than a program-specific one.

While the installation is successful and the extension
works as stated, I
would like to disable or remove it because I now realise
that it does have
*Windows* as part of the Global Menu.
There's File, Edit, View, Insert, Format, Tools, Help ...
but no *Windows*.
I'm used to relying on *Windows* and then opening a new
window of the same
document. Additionally, LibreOffice would remember how I
arrange two Windows
and open the second window just the way I like it.

Since Windows is missing, I have to work around by going to
File, New
Document which I don't like.

When I look in Tools, Extension Manager, I see three
extensions listed:
Copy Visible cells (which I had installed on LibreOffice
3.3 / Natty and
which has been retained during the upgrade to 11.10)
menubar (installed via Ubuntu Software Center)
Script Provider for Python 3.3.0 (which seems to have been
there by default
since I didn't install it)

The last two, menubar and Script Provider have little locks
next to them.

While the first, Copy visible cells has a disable/remove
option, the two
with locks next to them don't. So it looks like I cannot
disable or remove
menubar unless someone helps me!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread Don C. Myers
On Ubuntu 11.10 synaptic is not installed by default. So if doing a 
clean install, simply get it from the software center. If you are doing 
any upgrade from 11.04, it should be there. To open it in 11.10, click 
on the Dash button and type in syn and it will be there to run. You 
could add it to the launcher. When 11.04 came out, I was reluctant to 
move it from 10.10 because of all of then negative things I had read. 
But I decided to since if I was going to be continuing to use Ubuntu, 
that is what I would need to learn. The Unity had some quirks, but over 
all wasn't too bad. I learned to really like the launcher bar. When I 
would go back to a machine with the old desktop on 10.10 after several 
months, it felt antiquated and old fashioned. 11.10 is smoother, works 
fast, and I am most pleased with it. It isn't perfect, but significant 
progress has been made over 11.04.



On 10/18/2011 12:32 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


Unity looks good, sometimes, so I have been told.  But for people use 
to GNOME or KDE, I would make sure those desktops are installed and 
set them as the default.  Everything I have read, and heard, makes me 
fee that will be my only choice, once I get my monitor issues fixed so 
I can install 11.xx.  It may be worse with Win 8 and its Ribbon 
style of desktop.  Good for touch pads but not of desktops.  That menu 
form is what many of my MSO users would not go beyond MSO 2003 or 
switched to OOo and then LO.




On 10/18/2011 11:05 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Which version of Ubuntu are you using?

It might be easier to try to uninstall things using the package 
manager while LibreOffice is closed.  Perhaps the lock is due to 
LibreOffice being open?


In Ubuntu 10.10 and earlier try the top taskbar and click on

System - Administration - Synaptic Package Manager

I don't know how to do that in Ubuntu 11.10 or 11.04.  If you are 
using one of them then perhaps open a command-line / terminal-console 
and try


gksu synaptic

to open Synaptic?
Either way once open the sesarhc tools should help you find the 
extensions.  I would search for libreoffice and then click the top 
of the column that has the green splodges in it that indicate 
packages that are installed.  Hopefully that will get all the 
installed packages, extensions and all to the top so you can just 
scroll down to find the one you want.


The package manager ususally searches in descriptions as well as 
titles so a straight-forwards search might just give you the right 
thing straight away but i'm a bit pessimistic about that sort of 
thing ;)


Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Tue, 18/10/11, chimak111chimak...@gmail.com  wrote:


From: chimak111chimak...@gmail.com
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 
(Unity 3D)

To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 15:13
Hi,
I installed lo-menubar from the Ubuntu Software Center
which is said to
provide a Global Menu rather than a program-specific one.

While the installation is successful and the extension
works as stated, I
would like to disable or remove it because I now realise
that it does have
*Windows* as part of the Global Menu.
There's File, Edit, View, Insert, Format, Tools, Help ...
but no *Windows*.
I'm used to relying on *Windows* and then opening a new
window of the same
document. Additionally, LibreOffice would remember how I
arrange two Windows
and open the second window just the way I like it.

Since Windows is missing, I have to work around by going to
File, New
Document which I don't like.

When I look in Tools, Extension Manager, I see three
extensions listed:
Copy Visible cells (which I had installed on LibreOffice
3.3 / Natty and
which has been retained during the upgrade to 11.10)
menubar (installed via Ubuntu Software Center)
Script Provider for Python 3.3.0 (which seems to have been
there by default
since I didn't install it)

The last two, menubar and Script Provider have little locks
next to them.

While the first, Copy visible cells has a disable/remove
option, the two
with locks next to them don't. So it looks like I cannot
disable or remove
menubar unless someone helps me!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 10/18/2011 01:52 PM, planas wrote:

On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 12:32 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote:


Unity looks good, sometimes, so I have been told.  But for people use to
GNOME or KDE, I would make sure those desktops are installed and set
them as the default.  Everything I have read, and heard, makes me fee
that will be my only choice, once I get my monitor issues fixed so I can
install 11.xx.  It may be worse with Win 8 and its Ribbon style of
desktop.  Good for touch pads but not of desktops.  That menu form is
what many of my MSO users would not go beyond MSO 2003 or switched to
OOo and then LO.



Lubuntu, Xubuntu, and Kubuntu do not install Unity at all. These have a
similar look and feel to Windows for most users. I believe you can
change the desktop at log in with 11.10 Ubuntu to Gnome 3.X
Running 10.04, I use GNOME by default, but I have the whole KDE package 
installed so I can run some of them under GNOME.  There are just some 
things that I do not like about KDE's desktop, but I do like some of 
their system packages and other software.  I just wish it did not change 
my monitor resolution during boot to 1920x1080, which my monitor cannot 
do.  I installed 11.04 not knowing that, and I had to wipe the install 
while keeping my data.






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Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D) and Base/Java on 11.10

2011-10-18 Thread Don C. Myers
I've been enjoying it. With respect to the LibreOffice/Base issue, I did 
one clean install of the 64 bit Ubuntu 11.10, and three upgrades from 
11.04. On the clean install, Sun (Oracle) Java is not installed nor is 
it available in the repository nor is it available from a partner. If 
you really have to have it it can be installed if you look hard. What I 
read said Ubuntu felt that the Open JDK had progressed far enough and 
was secure, and that it would take care of almost anybody's needs. I 
just left things the way the default install did it and didn't install 
Sun Java. I uninstalled the packaged LibreOffice that came with Ubuntu, 
and then installed the 3.4.3 that is directly from LibreOffice. I then 
tried Base. It was TERRIBLY slow. I checked what it said the Java was, 
and it said it was Sun Microsystems, Inc. Version 1.6.0_23. With a clean 
install, where did it come from??? Maybe it read the OpenJDK as being 
1.6.0_23 as being the Sun Version. I don't know. So the I installed 
1.6.0_21 and Base was very happy again!!! In Synaptic there is no 
evidence that Sun Java 1.6.0_23 is installed, nor does 1.6.0_21 show up 
the way we are installing it. Could it have been shipped with Base?


Don

 Original Message 
Subject: 	Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 
(Unity 3D)

Date:   Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:18:27 +0100 (BST)
From:   Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
Reply-To:   users@global.libreoffice.org
To: users@global.libreoffice.org



Hi :)
I really quite like the 11.10.  When i tried the 11.04 i really hated it but 
the 11.10 is a big improvement.  I still prefer traditional menus such as KDE 
or Gnome or any of the others but i get the feeling Unity is worth getting to 
know.  I like the way the top-taskbar becomes the title-bar when you hover the 
mouse arrow over it and i really like the way that accessing LibreOffice and 
Firefox is so easy! ;)
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 18/10/11, Don C. Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com  wrote:


 From: Don C. Myersdonmy...@myersfarm.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 18:10
 On Ubuntu 11.10 synaptic is not
 installed by default. So if doing a clean install, simply
 get it from the software center. If you are doing any
 upgrade from 11.04, it should be there. To open it in 11.10,
 click on the Dash button and type in syn and it will be
 there to run. You could add it to the launcher. When 11.04
 came out, I was reluctant to move it from 10.10 because of
 all of then negative things I had read. But I decided to
 since if I was going to be continuing to use Ubuntu, that is
 what I would need to learn. The Unity had some quirks, but
 over all wasn't too bad. I learned to really like the
 launcher bar. When I would go back to a machine with the old
 desktop on 10.10 after several months, it felt antiquated
 and old fashioned. 11.10 is smoother, works fast, and I am
 most pleased with it. It isn't perfect, but significant
 progress has been made over 11.04.


 On 10/18/2011 12:32 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
 Productions wrote:
 
   Unity looks good, sometimes, so I have been
 told.  But for people use to GNOME or KDE, I would make
 sure those desktops are installed and set them as the
 default.  Everything I have read, and heard, makes me
 fee that will be my only choice, once I get my monitor
 issues fixed so I can install 11.xx.  It may be worse
 with Win 8 and its Ribbon style of desktop.  Good for
 touch pads but not of desktops.  That menu form is what
 many of my MSO users would not go beyond MSO 2003 or
 switched to OOo and then LO.
 
 
 
   On 10/18/2011 11:05 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
   Hi :)
   Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
 
   It might be easier to try to uninstall things
 using the package manager while LibreOffice is closed.
 Perhaps the lock is due to LibreOffice being open?
 
   In Ubuntu 10.10 and earlier try the top taskbar
 and click on
 
   System - Administration - Synaptic Package
 Manager
 
   I don't know how to do that in Ubuntu 11.10 or
 11.04.  If you are using one of them then perhaps open
 a command-line / terminal-console and try
 
   gksu synaptic
 
   to open Synaptic?
   Either way once open the sesarhc tools should help
 you find the extensions.  I would search for
 libreoffice and then click the top of the column that has
 the green splodges in it that indicate packages that are
 installed.  Hopefully that will get all the installed
 packages, extensions and all to the top so you can just
 scroll down to find the one you want.
 
   The package manager ususally searches in
 descriptions as well as titles so a straight-forwards search
 might just give you the right thing straight away but i'm a
 bit pessimistic about that sort of thing ;)
 
   Regards from
   Tom :)
 
 
 
   --- On Tue, 18/10/11, chimak111chimak...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   From: chimak111chimak

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a live demo on a Ubuntu system.  My 
only Windows machine I have working is dual boot and I cannot get it to 
boot from the CD.  It keeps going to GRUB.  When I choose Win Vista, it 
does not boot from the CD then.  So I cannot see what 11.10 looks like.  
Since it wants to boot at 1920 by 1080 [nVidia MoB graphics] and my 
monitor max out at 1368 by 768, it causes problems.


I still will use GNOME/KDE combo for my desktop and packages.


On 10/18/2011 05:18 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I really quite like the 11.10.  When i tried the 11.04 i really hated it but 
the 11.10 is a big improvement.  I still prefer traditional menus such as KDE 
or Gnome or any of the others but i get the feeling Unity is worth getting to 
know.  I like the way the top-taskbar becomes the title-bar when you hover the 
mouse arrow over it and i really like the way that accessing LibreOffice and 
Firefox is so easy! ;)
Regards from
Tom :)




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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread Don Myers
In your BIOS, make sure when you are booting that it is checking you 
CD/DVD drives before your hard drive. I needed to do this and change the 
boot order so I could preview and also install 11.10.


Don

On 10/18/2011 08:18 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a live demo on a Ubuntu system.  
My only Windows machine I have working is dual boot and I cannot get 
it to boot from the CD.  It keeps going to GRUB.  When I choose Win 
Vista, it does not boot from the CD then.  So I cannot see what 11.10 
looks like.  Since it wants to boot at 1920 by 1080 [nVidia MoB 
graphics] and my monitor max out at 1368 by 768, it causes problems.


I still will use GNOME/KDE combo for my desktop and packages.


On 10/18/2011 05:18 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I really quite like the 11.10.  When i tried the 11.04 i really hated 
it but the 11.10 is a big improvement.  I still prefer traditional 
menus such as KDE or Gnome or any of the others but i get the feeling 
Unity is worth getting to know.  I like the way the top-taskbar 
becomes the title-bar when you hover the mouse arrow over it and i 
really like the way that accessing LibreOffice and Firefox is so 
easy! ;)

Regards from
Tom :)






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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
This guide might help
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD
Even though it is written for Ubuntu it is almost identical for other distros 
as usual ;)  

When you try to boot an Ubuntu Cd it gives you a pop=-up screen with a language 
selector and 2 buttons
1. Try Ubuntu (this often doesn't work and just hangs the system) 
2. Install Ubuntu (has lots of Back buttons)
Soi click on the Install and then at click on the Back buttons until i get 
back to that screen with the language selector and the 2 options.  Now the Try 
Ubuntu button works!  I keep forgetting to post a bug-report about it.  
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Wed, 19/10/11, Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com wrote:

 From: Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 19 October, 2011, 2:33
 In your BIOS, make sure when you are
 booting that it is checking you CD/DVD drives before your
 hard drive. I needed to do this and change the boot order so
 I could preview and also install 11.10.
 
 Don
 
 On 10/18/2011 08:18 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
 Productions wrote:
  
  I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a live demo on a
 Ubuntu system.  My only Windows machine I have working
 is dual boot and I cannot get it to boot from the CD. 
 It keeps going to GRUB.  When I choose Win Vista, it
 does not boot from the CD then.  So I cannot see what
 11.10 looks like.  Since it wants to boot at 1920 by
 1080 [nVidia MoB graphics] and my monitor max out at 1368 by
 768, it causes problems.
  
  I still will use GNOME/KDE combo for my desktop and
 packages.
  


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ouch, i hadn't noticed that it was a screen-resolution issue.  I think the 
easiest option is to try using a virtual machine.  Then you can use the 
iso-file without even needing a physical Cd.m  On virtual box when it's higher 
resolution than my screen is set for i get scroll-bars and only see part of the 
desktop real-estate.

Inside the vm then move the mouse arrow to the far left to get the dock and 
move down to the bottom so it scrolls down and then click on the Setting 
gear-wheel at the bottom.  Then Display allows you to reset the resolution.  
I tend to go for 800by600 and then the vm window reduces in size to fit within 
my screen. 
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Wed, 19/10/11, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Wednesday, 19 October, 2011, 1:18
 
 I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a live demo on a Ubuntu
 system.  My only Windows machine I have working is dual
 boot and I cannot get it to boot from the CD.  It keeps
 going to GRUB.  When I choose Win Vista, it does not
 boot from the CD then.  So I cannot see what 11.10
 looks like.  Since it wants to boot at 1920 by 1080
 [nVidia MoB graphics] and my monitor max out at 1368 by 768,
 it causes problems.
 
 I still will use GNOME/KDE combo for my desktop and
 packages.
 

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