[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-22 Thread Urmas 

"Jim Seymour":


Nobody ever does that with commercial software,


Vendors of commercial software control their partners.

If there was nothing fishy we would have detailed reports, case studies and, 
which is more important, a comparison of costs of the chosen solution and 
competitors ones. Here? Totally opaque embezzling. 




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-22 Thread Jim Seymour 
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:44:39 +0700
"Urmas"  wrote:

> "Jim Seymour":
> 
> > How do you get embezzlement of funds out of a story about a
> > government body switching to open standards?
> 
> By buying new computers from the suppliers giving the best kickbacks
> and dumping the astronomic sums of money into 'open source
> implementation' subcontractors, ending up with stock Ubuntu with a
> changed wallpaper. We've seen that times and times, in many 3rd-world
> countries with corrupted governments. 

Nobody ever does that with commercial software, and it's always done
with FOSS?

Right.

Urmas, this may come as something of a surprise to you, but people
aren't as stupid as you apparently believe they are.  Your incessant,
inept shilling for Microsoft is quite obvious.

Please go somewhere else to play.  You've become tedious.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-22 Thread Urmas 

"Jim Seymour":


How do you get embezzlement of funds out of a story about a government
body switching to open standards?


By buying new computers from the suppliers giving the best kickbacks and 
dumping the astronomic sums of money into 'open source implementation' 
subcontractors, ending up with stock Ubuntu with a changed wallpaper.
We've seen that times and times, in many 3rd-world countries with corrupted 
governments. 




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-21 Thread Paul 
:)

My bad, I meant to reply to Anivar's email, I assumed he didn't know
what an Urmas was

Paul



On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 14:47:23 -0400
Jim Seymour  wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:16:24 +0200
> Paul  wrote:
> 
> > Pay no attention to Urmas, he's a known troll / MS shill, he's
> > always coming out with antagonistic, and usually easily seen
> > through, statements.
> [snip]
> 
> Been here since February.  I know what Urmas is :)
> 
> Regards,
> Jim


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-21 Thread Jim Seymour 
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 20:16:24 +0200
Paul  wrote:

> Pay no attention to Urmas, he's a known troll / MS shill, he's always
> coming out with antagonistic, and usually easily seen through,
> statements.
[snip]

Been here since February.  I know what Urmas is :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-21 Thread Paul 
Pay no attention to Urmas, he's a known troll / MS shill, he's always
coming out with antagonistic, and usually easily seen through,
statements.


On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 12:27:55 -0400
Jim Seymour  wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:07:56 +0700
> "Urmas"  wrote:
> 
> > "Charles-H. Schulz":
> > 
> > > The migration process is implimented with the support of  Zyxware
> > > Technologies[2]
> > 
> > Another story of embezzling of funds veiled as 'free software
> > migration.'
> 
> How do you get embezzlement of funds out of a story about a government
> body switching to open standards?
> 
> > But officially it was enthusiasts working 12/24 for food.
> 
> Not entirely.  Don't look now: But major corporations have donated
> various resources to all manner of FOSS development.
> 
> Regards,
> Jim


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-21 Thread Jim Seymour 
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 22:07:56 +0700
"Urmas"  wrote:

> "Charles-H. Schulz":
> 
> > The migration process is implimented with the support of  Zyxware
> > Technologies[2]
> 
> Another story of embezzling of funds veiled as 'free software
> migration.'

How do you get embezzlement of funds out of a story about a government
body switching to open standards?

> But officially it was enthusiasts working 12/24 for food.

Not entirely.  Don't look now: But major corporations have donated
various resources to all manner of FOSS development.

Regards,
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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-21 Thread Urmas 

"Charles-H. Schulz":


The migration process is implimented with the support of  Zyxware
Technologies[2]


Another story of embezzling of funds veiled as 'free software migration.' 
But officially it was enthusiasts working 12/24 for food.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-17 Thread Anivar Aravind 
Some news links in English from today's coverage

http://www.newindianexpress.com/cities/thiruvananthapuram/Software-Migration-ICFOSS-Hails-State-Govt/2014/07/18/article2335680.ece
http://freepressjournal.in/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform/
http://www.mathrubhumi.com/english/news/kerala/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform-149244.html
http://www.newswala.com/India-National-News/Kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform-for-its-business-68287.html
http://www.bgr.in/news/kerala-assembly-migrates-to-free-software-platform/


On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Anivar Aravind 
wrote:

>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Charles-H. Schulz <
> charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Nivar,
>>
>
> Hi I am anivar
>
>
>> Thanks a lot, great news; do you happen to have a pointer about these
>> news in English?
>>
>>
> English Press is not carried the news yet. Hope some of them will carry it
> soon. and people worked on this is planning a detail post on  challenges,
> issues faced and outcomes . I hope i can share the link within next few
> days .
>
> ~ regards
> Anivar
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Charles.
>>
>> Le 17.07.2014 10:28, Anivar Aravind a écrit :
>>
>>  The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July 17,
>>> 2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a Free
>>> Software platform using Libreoffice .  Hon. Speaker announced  in
>>> Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this undertaking
>>> unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the Niyamasabha is
>>> done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt
>>>
>>> The migration process is implimented with the support of  Zyxware
>>> Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to promote
>>> foss  and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS developer
>>> community working on Indian Language support and localizations
>>>
>>> See below poster .
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557
>>>
>>> Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular language
>>> press
>>> and it is available here
>>>
>>> http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716
>>> http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/
>>>
>>> The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent order
>>> announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments,
>>> institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms, in the
>>> opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP.  [5]
>>>
>>> International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has
>>> brought
>>> out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6]
>>>
>>> Related Links
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/
>>> [2] http://www.zyxware.com/
>>> [3] http://icfoss.in
>>> [4] http://smc.org.in
>>> [5] http://icfoss.in/G.O.109.pdf
>>> [6] http://icfoss.org/FS-Migration-Draft-Handbook.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>> ~ regards
>>>
>>> Anivar Aravind
>>> Secretary
>>> Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
>>> http://smc.org.in
>>>
>>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Charles-H. Schulz <
> charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Nivar,
>>
>> Thanks a lot, great news; do you happen to have a pointer about these
>> news in English?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Charles.
>>
>> Le 17.07.2014 10:28, Anivar Aravind a écrit :
>>
>>  The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July 17,
>>> 2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a Free
>>> Software platform using Libreoffice .  Hon. Speaker announced  in
>>> Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this undertaking
>>> unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the Niyamasabha is
>>> done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt
>>>
>>> The migration process is implimented with the support of  Zyxware
>>> Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to promote
>>> foss  and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS developer
>>> community working on Indian Language support and localizations
>>>
>>> See below poster .
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557
>>>
>>> Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular language
>>> press
>>> and it is available here
>>>
>>> http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716
>>> http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/
>>>
>>> The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent order
>>> announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments,
>>> institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms, in the
>>> opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP.  [5]
>>>
>>> International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has
>>> brought
>>> out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6]
>>>
>>> Related Links
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/
>>> [2] http://www.zyxware.com/
>>> [3] http:/

[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-17 Thread Rajesh Ranjan 
> On Thursday, July 17, 2014 1:58 PM, Anivar Aravind  
> wrote:




> >T he Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July 17,
> 2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a Free
> Software platform using Libreoffice .  Hon. Speaker announced  in
> Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this undertaking
> unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the Niyamasabha is
> done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt
> 
> The migration process is implimented with the support of  Zyxware
> Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to promote
> foss  and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS developer
> community working on Indian Language support and localizations
> 
> See below poster .
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557
> 
> Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular language press
> and it is available here
> 
> http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716
> http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/
> 
> The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent order
> announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments,
> institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms, in the
> opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP.  [5]
> 
> International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has brought
> out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6]
> 
> Related Links
> 
> [1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/
> [2] http://www.zyxware.com/
> [3] http://icfoss.in
> [4] http://smc.org.in
> [5] http://icfoss.in/G.O.109.pdf
> [6] http://icfoss.org/FS-Migration-Draft-Handbook.pdf
> 

> 

Great News Anivar! Congratulations everybody! Kerela is becoming role model for 
the foss efforts and no doubt, the push by different organizations and vibrant 
FOSS Kerala community people like you are very much helpful in achieving the 
same. We should try to build similar foss eco-system in other parts of India 
also!

 

Regards,
Rajesh Ranjan

twitter: @kajha
facebook: rajeshkajha
www.rajeshranjan.in

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-17 Thread Anivar Aravind 
On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Charles-H. Schulz <
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Dear Nivar,
>

Hi I am anivar


> Thanks a lot, great news; do you happen to have a pointer about these news
> in English?
>
>
English Press is not carried the news yet. Hope some of them will carry it
soon. and people worked on this is planning a detail post on  challenges,
issues faced and outcomes . I hope i can share the link within next few
days .

~ regards
Anivar




>
> Best,
>
> Charles.
>
> Le 17.07.2014 10:28, Anivar Aravind a écrit :
>
>  The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July 17,
>> 2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a Free
>> Software platform using Libreoffice .  Hon. Speaker announced  in
>> Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this undertaking
>> unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the Niyamasabha is
>> done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt
>>
>> The migration process is implimented with the support of  Zyxware
>> Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to promote
>> foss  and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS developer
>> community working on Indian Language support and localizations
>>
>> See below poster .
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557
>>
>> Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular language
>> press
>> and it is available here
>>
>> http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716
>> http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/
>>
>> The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent order
>> announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments,
>> institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms, in the
>> opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP.  [5]
>>
>> International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has brought
>> out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6]
>>
>> Related Links
>>
>> [1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/
>> [2] http://www.zyxware.com/
>> [3] http://icfoss.in
>> [4] http://smc.org.in
>> [5] http://icfoss.in/G.O.109.pdf
>> [6] http://icfoss.org/FS-Migration-Draft-Handbook.pdf
>>
>>
>> ~ regards
>>
>> Anivar Aravind
>> Secretary
>> Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
>> http://smc.org.in
>>
>


On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Charles-H. Schulz <
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org> wrote:

> Dear Nivar,
>
> Thanks a lot, great news; do you happen to have a pointer about these news
> in English?
>
> Best,
>
> Charles.
>
> Le 17.07.2014 10:28, Anivar Aravind a écrit :
>
>  The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July 17,
>> 2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a Free
>> Software platform using Libreoffice .  Hon. Speaker announced  in
>> Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this undertaking
>> unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the Niyamasabha is
>> done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt
>>
>> The migration process is implimented with the support of  Zyxware
>> Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to promote
>> foss  and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS developer
>> community working on Indian Language support and localizations
>>
>> See below poster .
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557
>>
>> Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular language
>> press
>> and it is available here
>>
>> http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716
>> http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/
>>
>> The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent order
>> announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments,
>> institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms, in the
>> opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP.  [5]
>>
>> International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has brought
>> out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6]
>>
>> Related Links
>>
>> [1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/
>> [2] http://www.zyxware.com/
>> [3] http://icfoss.in
>> [4] http://smc.org.in
>> [5] http://icfoss.in/G.O.109.pdf
>> [6] http://icfoss.org/FS-Migration-Draft-Handbook.pdf
>>
>>
>> ~ regards
>>
>> Anivar Aravind
>> Secretary
>> Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
>> http://smc.org.in
>>
>

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Kerala Legislative Assembly has moved to Free Software and Libreoffice

2014-07-17 Thread Charles-H. Schulz 

Dear Nivar,

Thanks a lot, great news; do you happen to have a pointer about these 
news in English?


Best,

Charles.

Le 17.07.2014 10:28, Anivar Aravind a écrit :
The Kerala Legislative Assembly[1] (Kerala state , India) as of July 
17,
2014 produces all its documentation, both printed and digital, on a 
Free

Software platform using Libreoffice .  Hon. Speaker announced  in
Legislative assembly yesterday . The point which makes this undertaking
unique is the fact that the complete documentation at the Niyamasabha 
is

done in Malayalam, a complex text indic scipt

The migration process is implimented with the support of  Zyxware
Technologies[2] in association with ICFOSS[3], a govt centre to promote
foss  and Swathanthra Malayalam Computing(SMC)[4] , a FOSS developer
community working on Indian Language support and localizations

See below poster .

https://www.facebook.com/SMC.Project/posts/751600641550557

Some media reports about the same is published in vernacular language 
press

and it is available here

http://www.madhyamam.com/news/298250/140716
http://www.eastcoastdaily.com/2014/07/16/free-software/

The migration was in the light of Government of Kerala's recent order
announced its intention to transition computers in the Departments,
institutions and PSUs under it to Free and Open Source platforms, in 
the

opportunity caused due to expiry of support period to Windows XP.  [5]

International centre for free and open source software(ICFOSS) has 
brought

out a Handbook last month to support the process of migration [6]

Related Links

[1] http://www.niyamasabha.org/
[2] http://www.zyxware.com/
[3] http://icfoss.in
[4] http://smc.org.in
[5] http://icfoss.in/G.O.109.pdf
[6] http://icfoss.org/FS-Migration-Draft-Handbook.pdf


~ regards

Anivar Aravind
Secretary
Swathanthra Malayalam Computing
http://smc.org.in


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