Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-27 Thread upscope
On Sunday, April 27, 2014 01:33:49 PM Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Hello Upscope,
> 
> Le Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:58:07 -0700,
> 
> upscope  a écrit :
> > On Friday, April 25, 2014 07:53:17 PM you wrote:
> > > Hello Upscope,
> > > 
> > > On 25 avril 2014 19:03:22 CEST, upscope  wrote:
> > > >On Thursday, April 24, 2014 08:40:40 PM Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > > >> Hello Upscope,
> > > >> 
> > > >> On 24 avril 2014 18:16:29 CEST, upscope  
wrote:
> > > >> >On Thursday, April 24, 2014 02:09:16 PM Tom Davies wrote:
> > > >> >> Hi :)
> > > >> >> These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >> It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself
> > > >> >> racing
> > > >> >> against other people who are also new to it all.  Even if
> > > >> >> you
> > > >> >> know
> > > >> >> nothing about how to do it there are experienced people
> > > >> >> on-hand to
> > > >> >> help.  If you don't know coding then that can even be an
> > > >> >> advantage
> > > >> >> because you avoid getting embroiled in 'interesting'
> > > >> >> details.
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >> Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as
> > > >> >> netbooks
> > > >> >> and
> > > >> >> things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people
> > > >> >> netboks
> > > >> >> as top
> > > >> >> prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I
> > > >> >> think
> > > >> >> this time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in
> > > >> >> some
> > > >> >> practice. Good luck all!
> > > >> >> Regards from
> > > >> >> Tom :)
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >> On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >
> > > >> >wrote:
> > > >> >> > The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of
> > > >> >> > the
> > > >
> > > >first
> > > >
> > > >> >> > LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with
> > > >> >> > the availability of the first beta of the new major
> > > >> >> > release
> > > >> >> > in calendar
> > > >> >> > week 21 (May 23 to May 25).
> > > >> >> > 
> > > >> >> > Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting
> > > >> >> > session are
> > > >> >> > on
> > > >> >> > TDF wiki
> > > >> >> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.
> > > >> >> > 3.0)
> > > >> >> > ,
> > > >> >> > where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new
> > > >> >> > features
> > > >> >> > and improvements to check for bugs and regressions
> > > >> >> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).
> > > >> >> > 
> > > >> >> > To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with
> > > >> >> > Windows,
> > > >> >> > MacOS or Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
> > > >> >>> 
> > > >> >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of
> > > >> >>> enthusiasm.
> > > >> >>> 
> > > >> >> > Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of
> > > >> >> > experienced
> > > >> >> > volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
> > > >> >> > (libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
> > > >> >> > (irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).
> > > >> >> > 
> > > >> >> > A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be
> > > >> >> > organized -
> > > >> >> > with
> > > >> >> > the same pattern - immediately after the release of
> > > >> >> > LibreOffice
> > > >> >> > 4.3
> > > >> >> > Release Candidate 1, in mid June.
> > > >> >> > 
> > > >> >> > Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.
> > > >> >> > 
> > > >> >> > --
> > > >> >> > Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation
> > > >> >> > mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795
> > > >> >> > sip it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli
> > > >> >> > hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com
> > > >> >> > email it...@documentfoundation.org
> > > >> >> > GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0
> > > >> >> > DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0
> > > >> >> > 
> > > >> >> > --
> > > >> >> > To unsubscribe e-mail to:
> > > >> >> > announce+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org
> > > >> >> > Problems?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsub
> > > >> >scri
> > > >> >be
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> > /
> > > >> >> > List archive:
> > > >> >> > http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Tom thanks for the heads up. Will 4.3 be available for
> > > >> >download
> > > >> >in advance of the actual Beta release date/ I have been using
> > > >> >the 4.2.4
> > > >> >RC1
> > > >> >on my openSUSE 13.1 for the last week. So far no issues with
> > > >> >CALC
> > > >
> > > >(at
> > > >
> > > >> >least my spreadsheets). Writer still has problems with a .docx
> > > >> >document
> > > >> >
> > > >> >I get each month. Does not show some of the graphics. The
> > > >> >version of
> > > >> >Word is 2010.  I can enter a bug report if necessary and
> > > >> >attach
> > > >> >the
> > > >> >Writer page and one from the PDF to show what it should look
> > > >> >like.
> > > >> 
> > > >> By any means, please do, that would help a 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-27 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Upscope,

Le Fri, 25 Apr 2014 14:58:07 -0700,
upscope  a écrit :

> On Friday, April 25, 2014 07:53:17 PM you wrote:
> > Hello Upscope,
> > 
> > On 25 avril 2014 19:03:22 CEST, upscope  wrote:
> > >On Thursday, April 24, 2014 08:40:40 PM Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> > >> Hello Upscope,
> > >> 
> > >> On 24 avril 2014 18:16:29 CEST, upscope  wrote:
> > >> >On Thursday, April 24, 2014 02:09:16 PM Tom Davies wrote:
> > >> >> Hi :)
> > >> >> These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself
> > >> >> racing
> > >> >> against other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you
> > >> >> know
> > >> >> nothing about how to do it there are experienced people
> > >> >> on-hand to
> > >> >> help.  If you don't know coding then that can even be an
> > >> >> advantage
> > >> >> because you avoid getting embroiled in 'interesting' details.
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as
> > >> >> netbooks
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks
> > >> >> as top
> > >> >> prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I
> > >> >> think
> > >> >> this time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in
> > >> >> some
> > >> >> practice. Good luck all!
> > >> >> Regards from
> > >> >> Tom :)
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli
> > >> >> 
> > >> >
> > >> >wrote:
> > >> >> > The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the
> > >
> > >first
> > >
> > >> >> > LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with
> > >> >> > the availability of the first beta of the new major release
> > >> >> > in calendar
> > >> >> > week 21 (May 23 to May 25).
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting
> > >> >> > session are
> > >> >> > on
> > >> >> > TDF wiki
> > >> >> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0)
> > >> >> > ,
> > >> >> > where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new
> > >> >> > features
> > >> >> > and improvements to check for bugs and regressions
> > >> >> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with
> > >> >> > Windows,
> > >> >> > MacOS or Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
> > >> >>> 
> > >> >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of
> > >> >>> enthusiasm.
> > >> >>> 
> > >> >> > Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of
> > >> >> > experienced
> > >> >> > volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
> > >> >> > (libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
> > >> >> > (irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be
> > >> >> > organized -
> > >> >> > with
> > >> >> > the same pattern - immediately after the release of
> > >> >> > LibreOffice
> > >> >> > 4.3
> > >> >> > Release Candidate 1, in mid June.
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > --
> > >> >> > Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation
> > >> >> > mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795
> > >> >> > sip it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli
> > >> >> > hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com
> > >> >> > email it...@documentfoundation.org
> > >> >> > GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0
> > >> >> > DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > --
> > >> >> > To unsubscribe e-mail to:
> > >> >> > announce+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org
> > >> >> > Problems?
> > >> >
> > >> >http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscri
> > >> >be
> > >> >
> > >> >> > /
> > >> >> > List archive:
> > >> >> > http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/
> > >> >
> > >> >Tom thanks for the heads up. Will 4.3 be available for download
> > >> >in advance of the actual Beta release date/ I have been using
> > >> >the 4.2.4
> > >> >RC1
> > >> >on my openSUSE 13.1 for the last week. So far no issues with
> > >> >CALC
> > >
> > >(at
> > >
> > >> >least my spreadsheets). Writer still has problems with a .docx
> > >> >document
> > >> >
> > >> >I get each month. Does not show some of the graphics. The
> > >> >version of
> > >> >Word is 2010.  I can enter a bug report if necessary and attach
> > >> >the
> > >> >Writer page and one from the PDF to show what it should look
> > >> >like.
> > >> 
> > >> By any means, please do, that would help a lot.
> > >
> > >LibreOffice Bugzilla but it will not accept it under 4.2.3 or
> > >4.3.1.
> > >
> > >I have attached the .docx and .pdf to this email. I do not know if
> > >attachments are allowed.
> > >
> > >Let me know if you need anything else or if I can test something.
> > >
> > >
> > >I do have the 4.2.4 (direct from LO site) and installed.
> > 
> > That's weird. There should be an entry for beta/rc. May I suggest
> > yo

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-26 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Upscope,

On 25 avril 2014 23:58:07 CEST, upscope  wrote:
>On Friday, April 25, 2014 07:53:17 PM you wrote:
>> Hello Upscope,
>> 
>> On 25 avril 2014 19:03:22 CEST, upscope  wrote:
>> >On Thursday, April 24, 2014 08:40:40 PM Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
>> >> Hello Upscope,
>> >> 
>> >> On 24 avril 2014 18:16:29 CEST, upscope  wrote:
>> >> >On Thursday, April 24, 2014 02:09:16 PM Tom Davies wrote:
>> >> >> Hi :)
>> >> >> These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself
>> >> >> racing
>> >> >> against other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you
>> >> >> know
>> >> >> nothing about how to do it there are experienced people on-hand
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> help.  If you don't know coding then that can even be an
>> >> >> advantage
>> >> >> because you avoid getting embroiled in 'interesting' details.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as
>> >> >> netbooks
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks
>as
>> >> >> top
>> >> >> prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I
>> >> >> think
>> >> >> this time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in
>> >> >> some
>> >> >> practice. Good luck all!
>> >> >> Regards from
>> >> >> Tom :)
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli
>> >> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> > The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the
>> >
>> >first
>> >
>> >> >> > LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with
>the
>> >> >> > availability of the first beta of the new major release in
>> >> >> > calendar
>> >> >> > week 21 (May 23 to May 25).
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting
>session
>> >> >> > are
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > TDF wiki
>> >> >> >
>(https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0)
>> >> >> > ,
>> >> >> > where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new
>> >> >> > features
>> >> >> > and improvements to check for bugs and regressions
>> >> >> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with
>> >> >> > Windows,
>> >> >> > MacOS or Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of
>> >> >>> enthusiasm.
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >> > Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of
>> >> >> > experienced
>> >> >> > volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
>> >> >> > (libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
>> >> >> > (irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be
>organized
>> >> >> > -
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > the same pattern - immediately after the release of
>> >> >> > LibreOffice
>> >> >> > 4.3
>> >> >> > Release Candidate 1, in mid June.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation
>> >> >> > mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795
>> >> >> > sip it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli
>> >> >> > hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com
>> >> >> > email it...@documentfoundation.org
>> >> >> > GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0
>> >> >> > DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > To unsubscribe e-mail to:
>> >> >> > announce+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org
>> >> >> > Problems?
>> >> >
>> >>
>>http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscri
>> >> >be
>> >> >
>> >> >> > /
>> >> >> > List archive:
>> >> >> > http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/
>> >> >
>> >> >Tom thanks for the heads up. Will 4.3 be available for download
>in
>> >> >advance of the actual Beta release date/ I have been using the
>> >> >4.2.4
>> >> >RC1
>> >> >on my openSUSE 13.1 for the last week. So far no issues with CALC
>> >
>> >(at
>> >
>> >> >least my spreadsheets). Writer still has problems with a .docx
>> >> >document
>> >> >
>> >> >I get each month. Does not show some of the graphics. The version
>> >> >of
>> >> >Word is 2010.  I can enter a bug report if necessary and attach
>> >> >the
>> >> >Writer page and one from the PDF to show what it should look
>like.
>> >> 
>> >> By any means, please do, that would help a lot.
>> >
>> >LibreOffice Bugzilla but it will not accept it under 4.2.3 or 4.3.1.
>> >
>> >I have attached the .docx and .pdf to this email. I do not know if
>> >attachments are allowed.
>> >
>> >Let me know if you need anything else or if I can test something.
>> >
>> >
>> >I do have the 4.2.4 (direct from LO site) and installed.
>> 
>> That's weird. There should be an entry for beta/rc. May I suggest you
>> wait for the bug hunting session?  Otherwise I can file the bug
>> myself.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Charles.
>> 
>> >Version: 4.2.4.1
>> >Build ID: d4c441391e20647b

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-25 Thread Tom Williams
On 04/25/2014 08:40 AM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Hello Tom,
>
>
> Le 2014-04-25 15:35, Tom Williams a écrit :
>> On 04/24/2014 06:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>> Hi :)
>>> These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.
>>>
>>> It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself racing
>>> against
>>> other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you know nothing
>>> about
>>> how to do it there are experienced people on-hand to help.  If you
>>> don't
>>> know coding then that can even be an advantage because you avoid
>>> getting
>>> embroiled in 'interesting' details.
>>>
>>> Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as netbooks and
>>> things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks as top
>>> prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I think this
>>> time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in some practice.
>>> Good luck all!
>>> Regards from
>>> Tom :)
>>
>> Thanks for mentioning this.   :)I think bug hunts are great, but I
>> need to ask this question:   how does the current backlog of bugs factor
>> in with these bug hunts? I understand the bug hunts are great for
>> finding new bugs, but I've filed several bug reports, some of which have
>> been stagnant for over six months.
>
> Well you're right, it is about finding new bugs (or previously fixed
> bugs that may reappear) in the development versions. Actually, "old"
> or open bugs get fixed at every new release, while others get
> (unfortunately) introduced. That's the factor you were asking about I
> guess?

Not really.  I was asking how current backlog bug reports factor in with
these bug hunts.  As bugs are fixed in each new release, those bug
reports are eventually resolved and maybe even closed. They might be
reopened if a regression occurs, but that's something different.   I do
understand the need to find out if new features and functionality either
have problems, themselves, or possibly caused regressions but a
regression is a break of something that previously worked.   A bug
report that's still in "New" status, like my sample bug, hasn't been
fixed and my question is:  during these bug hunts, is there any effort
put into seeing if any of the backlog bug reports have also been fixed
or is the intent mostly to focus on the "new stuff," making sure new
features and functions work properly and to see if any regressions have
been introduced.

>
>
>> Here is an example:
>>
>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57116
>
> It's not really stagnant. As I read on the bug reports comments, you
> filed that bug against the 3.6.2 version. This version is obsolete;
> but someone actually tested the problematic behaviour with a 4.2.0 and
> the bug was no longer observed:
> "So even it is not informed here, it is solved for the releases in
> production."
>
> So it was fixed somehow. Please keep in mind that bug fixes are only
> brought to actively supported versions (the ones you can download from
> the website), not obsolete ones like the 3.6.x branch.

Yep, release 3.6.2 is certainly obsolete but that's the version of the
software in which I first experienced the problem.  I certainly hope bug
reports filed against *now* obsolete releases aren't being ignored.   
As for the status of my sample bug report being changed to "invalid",
I'm addressing that now since I experienced the same problem with Writer
4.2.3 on Windows XP.   :)

>
>
>>
>> I'm excited about LibreOffice 4.3's release because the software keeps
>> getting better and better.  However, it's also a bit frustrating when
>> reported issues exist for a long period of time.
>
>
> I hope I have answered your question;of course there are always
> unresolved issues that are still in the actively supported versions.
> Devs try hard to squash these bugs, and are very successful at doing
> that, but there are always some leftovers.

Yes, you have and I appreciate your response.  :)

Peace...

Tom

>
> Cheers,
>
> Charles.
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Peace...
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the first
 LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with the
 availability of the first beta of the new major release in calendar
 week
 21 (May 23 to May 25).

 Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting session are on
 TDF wiki
 (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0),
 where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new features and
 improvements to check for bugs and regressions
 (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).

 To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with Windows,
 MacOS or
 Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
 http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of enthusiasm.

 Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of experienced
>>

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-25 Thread upscope
On Friday, April 25, 2014 07:53:17 PM you wrote:
> Hello Upscope,
> 
> On 25 avril 2014 19:03:22 CEST, upscope  wrote:
> >On Thursday, April 24, 2014 08:40:40 PM Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> >> Hello Upscope,
> >> 
> >> On 24 avril 2014 18:16:29 CEST, upscope  wrote:
> >> >On Thursday, April 24, 2014 02:09:16 PM Tom Davies wrote:
> >> >> Hi :)
> >> >> These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.
> >> >> 
> >> >> It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself
> >> >> racing
> >> >> against other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you
> >> >> know
> >> >> nothing about how to do it there are experienced people on-hand
> >> >> to
> >> >> help.  If you don't know coding then that can even be an
> >> >> advantage
> >> >> because you avoid getting embroiled in 'interesting' details.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as
> >> >> netbooks
> >> >> and
> >> >> things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks as
> >> >> top
> >> >> prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I
> >> >> think
> >> >> this time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in
> >> >> some
> >> >> practice. Good luck all!
> >> >> Regards from
> >> >> Tom :)
> >> >> 
> >> >> On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli
> >> >> 
> >> >
> >> >wrote:
> >> >> > The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the
> >
> >first
> >
> >> >> > LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with the
> >> >> > availability of the first beta of the new major release in
> >> >> > calendar
> >> >> > week 21 (May 23 to May 25).
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting session
> >> >> > are
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > TDF wiki
> >> >> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0)
> >> >> > ,
> >> >> > where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new
> >> >> > features
> >> >> > and improvements to check for bugs and regressions
> >> >> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with
> >> >> > Windows,
> >> >> > MacOS or Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of
> >> >>> enthusiasm.
> >> >>> 
> >> >> > Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of
> >> >> > experienced
> >> >> > volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
> >> >> > (libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
> >> >> > (irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be organized
> >> >> > -
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > the same pattern - immediately after the release of
> >> >> > LibreOffice
> >> >> > 4.3
> >> >> > Release Candidate 1, in mid June.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation
> >> >> > mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795
> >> >> > sip it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli
> >> >> > hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com
> >> >> > email it...@documentfoundation.org
> >> >> > GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0
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> >> >> > 
> >> >> > --
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> >> >be
> >> >
> >> >> > /
> >> >> > List archive:
> >> >> > http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/
> >> >
> >> >Tom thanks for the heads up. Will 4.3 be available for download in
> >> >advance of the actual Beta release date/ I have been using the
> >> >4.2.4
> >> >RC1
> >> >on my openSUSE 13.1 for the last week. So far no issues with CALC
> >
> >(at
> >
> >> >least my spreadsheets). Writer still has problems with a .docx
> >> >document
> >> >
> >> >I get each month. Does not show some of the graphics. The version
> >> >of
> >> >Word is 2010.  I can enter a bug report if necessary and attach
> >> >the
> >> >Writer page and one from the PDF to show what it should look like.
> >> 
> >> By any means, please do, that would help a lot.
> >
> >LibreOffice Bugzilla but it will not accept it under 4.2.3 or 4.3.1.
> >
> >I have attached the .docx and .pdf to this email. I do not know if
> >attachments are allowed.
> >
> >Let me know if you need anything else or if I can test something.
> >
> >
> >I do have the 4.2.4 (direct from LO site) and installed.
> 
> That's weird. There should be an entry for beta/rc. May I suggest you
> wait for the bug hunting session?  Otherwise I can file the bug
> myself.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Charles.
> 
> >Version: 4.2.4.1
> >Build ID: d4c441391e20647b3d2e8dde4d20aa868e77e515
> >
> >TDF version on openSUSE 13.1
> >
> >CODE:
> >--
> >Version: 4.2.4.1
> >Build ID: d4c441391e20647b3d2e8dde4d20aa868e77e515
> >--
> >
> >openSUSE version on openS

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Upscope, 


On 25 avril 2014 19:03:22 CEST, upscope  wrote:
>On Thursday, April 24, 2014 08:40:40 PM Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
>> Hello Upscope,
>> 
>> On 24 avril 2014 18:16:29 CEST, upscope  wrote:
>> >On Thursday, April 24, 2014 02:09:16 PM Tom Davies wrote:
>> >> Hi :)
>> >> These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.
>> >> 
>> >> It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself racing
>> >> against other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you know
>> >> nothing about how to do it there are experienced people on-hand to
>> >> help.  If you don't know coding then that can even be an advantage
>> >> because you avoid getting embroiled in 'interesting' details.
>> >> 
>> >> Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as netbooks
>> >> and
>> >> things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks as
>> >> top
>> >> prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I think
>> >> this time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in some
>> >> practice. Good luck all!
>> >> Regards from
>> >> Tom :)
>> >> 
>> >> On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli
>> >> 
>> >
>> >wrote:
>> >> > The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the
>first
>> >> > LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with the
>> >> > availability of the first beta of the new major release in
>> >> > calendar
>> >> > week 21 (May 23 to May 25).
>> >> > 
>> >> > Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting session
>> >> > are
>> >> > on
>> >> > TDF wiki
>> >> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0),
>> >> > where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new
>> >> > features
>> >> > and improvements to check for bugs and regressions
>> >> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).
>> >> > 
>> >> > To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with Windows,
>> >> > MacOS or Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
>> >>> 
>> >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of
>> >>> enthusiasm.
>> >>> 
>> >> > Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of
>> >> > experienced
>> >> > volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
>> >> > (libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
>> >> > (irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).
>> >> > 
>> >> > A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be organized -
>> >> > with
>> >> > the same pattern - immediately after the release of LibreOffice
>> >> > 4.3
>> >> > Release Candidate 1, in mid June.
>> >> > 
>> >> > Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.
>> >> > 
>> >> > --
>> >> > Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation
>> >> > mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795
>> >> > sip it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli
>> >> > hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com
>> >> > email it...@documentfoundation.org
>> >> > GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0
>> >> > DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0
>> >> > 
>> >> > --
>> >> > To unsubscribe e-mail to:
>> >> > announce+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org
>> >> > Problems?
>> >
>> >http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe
>> >
>> >> > /
>> >> > List archive:
>> >> > http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/
>> >
>> >Tom thanks for the heads up. Will 4.3 be available for download in
>> >advance of the actual Beta release date/ I have been using the 4.2.4
>> >RC1
>> >on my openSUSE 13.1 for the last week. So far no issues with CALC
>(at
>> >least my spreadsheets). Writer still has problems with a .docx
>> >document
>> >
>> >I get each month. Does not show some of the graphics. The version of
>> >Word is 2010.  I can enter a bug report if necessary and attach the
>> >Writer page and one from the PDF to show what it should look like.
>> 
>> By any means, please do, that would help a lot.
>
>LibreOffice Bugzilla but it will not accept it under 4.2.3 or 4.3.1.
>
>I have attached the .docx and .pdf to this email. I do not know if 
>attachments are allowed. 
>
>Let me know if you need anything else or if I can test something. 
>
>
>I do have the 4.2.4 (direct from LO site) and installed.

That's weird. There should be an entry for beta/rc. May I suggest you wait for 
the bug hunting session?  Otherwise I can file the bug myself. 

Best,

Charles. 

>
>Version: 4.2.4.1
>Build ID: d4c441391e20647b3d2e8dde4d20aa868e77e515
>
>TDF version on openSUSE 13.1
>
>CODE:
>--
>Version: 4.2.4.1
>Build ID: d4c441391e20647b3d2e8dde4d20aa868e77e515
>--
>
>openSUSE version on openSUSE 13.1
>
>CODE:
>--
>Version: 4.1.5.3
>Build ID: 410m0(Build:3)
>--
>--  
>> >Let me know where to post the bug.
>> 
>> Here: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Charles.
>> 
>> >Thanks

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-25 Thread upscope
On Thursday, April 24, 2014 08:40:40 PM Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> Hello Upscope,
> 
> On 24 avril 2014 18:16:29 CEST, upscope  wrote:
> >On Thursday, April 24, 2014 02:09:16 PM Tom Davies wrote:
> >> Hi :)
> >> These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.
> >> 
> >> It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself racing
> >> against other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you know
> >> nothing about how to do it there are experienced people on-hand to
> >> help.  If you don't know coding then that can even be an advantage
> >> because you avoid getting embroiled in 'interesting' details.
> >> 
> >> Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as netbooks
> >> and
> >> things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks as
> >> top
> >> prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I think
> >> this time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in some
> >> practice. Good luck all!
> >> Regards from
> >> Tom :)
> >> 
> >> On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli
> >> 
> >
> >wrote:
> >> > The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the first
> >> > LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with the
> >> > availability of the first beta of the new major release in
> >> > calendar
> >> > week 21 (May 23 to May 25).
> >> > 
> >> > Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting session
> >> > are
> >> > on
> >> > TDF wiki
> >> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0),
> >> > where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new
> >> > features
> >> > and improvements to check for bugs and regressions
> >> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).
> >> > 
> >> > To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with Windows,
> >> > MacOS or Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
> >>> 
> >>> http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of
> >>> enthusiasm.
> >>> 
> >> > Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of
> >> > experienced
> >> > volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
> >> > (libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
> >> > (irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).
> >> > 
> >> > A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be organized -
> >> > with
> >> > the same pattern - immediately after the release of LibreOffice
> >> > 4.3
> >> > Release Candidate 1, in mid June.
> >> > 
> >> > Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.
> >> > 
> >> > --
> >> > Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation
> >> > mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795
> >> > sip it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli
> >> > hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com
> >> > email it...@documentfoundation.org
> >> > GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0
> >> > DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0
> >> > 
> >> > --
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> >
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> >
> >Tom thanks for the heads up. Will 4.3 be available for download in
> >advance of the actual Beta release date/ I have been using the 4.2.4
> >RC1
> >on my openSUSE 13.1 for the last week. So far no issues with CALC (at
> >least my spreadsheets). Writer still has problems with a .docx
> >document
> >
> >I get each month. Does not show some of the graphics. The version of
> >Word is 2010.  I can enter a bug report if necessary and attach the
> >Writer page and one from the PDF to show what it should look like.
> 
> By any means, please do, that would help a lot.

LibreOffice Bugzilla but it will not accept it under 4.2.3 or 4.3.1.

I have attached the .docx and .pdf to this email. I do not know if 
attachments are allowed. 

Let me know if you need anything else or if I can test something. 


I do have the 4.2.4 (direct from LO site) and installed.

Version: 4.2.4.1
Build ID: d4c441391e20647b3d2e8dde4d20aa868e77e515

TDF version on openSUSE 13.1

CODE:
--
Version: 4.2.4.1
Build ID: d4c441391e20647b3d2e8dde4d20aa868e77e515
--

openSUSE version on openSUSE 13.1

CODE:
--
Version: 4.1.5.3
Build ID: 410m0(Build:3)
--
--  
> >Let me know where to post the bug.
> 
> Here: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Charles.
> 
> >Thanks
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-25 Thread Charles-H. Schulz

Hello Tom,


Le 2014-04-25 15:35, Tom Williams a écrit :

On 04/24/2014 06:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.

It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself racing 
against
other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you know nothing 
about
how to do it there are experienced people on-hand to help.  If you 
don't
know coding then that can even be an advantage because you avoid 
getting

embroiled in 'interesting' details.

Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as netbooks and
things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks as top
prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I think 
this

time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in some practice.
Good luck all!
Regards from
Tom :)


Thanks for mentioning this.   :)I think bug hunts are great, but I
need to ask this question:   how does the current backlog of bugs 
factor

in with these bug hunts? I understand the bug hunts are great for
finding new bugs, but I've filed several bug reports, some of which 
have

been stagnant for over six months.


Well you're right, it is about finding new bugs (or previously fixed 
bugs that may reappear) in the development versions. Actually, "old" or 
open bugs get fixed at every new release, while others get 
(unfortunately) introduced. That's the factor you were asking about I 
guess?




Here is an example:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57116


It's not really stagnant. As I read on the bug reports comments, you 
filed that bug against the 3.6.2 version. This version is obsolete; but 
someone actually tested the problematic behaviour with a 4.2.0 and the 
bug was no longer observed:
"So even it is not informed here, it is solved for the releases in 
production."


So it was fixed somehow. Please keep in mind that bug fixes are only 
brought to actively supported versions (the ones you can download from 
the website), not obsolete ones like the 3.6.x branch.





I'm excited about LibreOffice 4.3's release because the software keeps
getting better and better.  However, it's also a bit frustrating when
reported issues exist for a long period of time.



I hope I have answered your question;of course there are always 
unresolved issues that are still in the actively supported versions. 
Devs try hard to squash these bugs, and are very successful at doing 
that, but there are always some leftovers.


Cheers,

Charles.





Thanks!

Peace...

Tom





On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli  
wrote:



The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the first
LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with the
availability of the first beta of the new major release in calendar 
week

21 (May 23 to May 25).

Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting session are on
TDF wiki 
(https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0),
where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new features 
and

improvements to check for bugs and regressions
(https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).

To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with Windows, MacOS 
or

Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of enthusiasm.

Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of experienced
volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
(libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
(irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).

A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be organized - with
the same pattern - immediately after the release of LibreOffice 4.3
Release Candidate 1, in mid June.

Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-25 Thread Tom Williams
On 04/24/2014 06:09 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.
>
> It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself racing against
> other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you know nothing about
> how to do it there are experienced people on-hand to help.  If you don't
> know coding then that can even be an advantage because you avoid getting
> embroiled in 'interesting' details.
>
> Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as netbooks and
> things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks as top
> prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I think this
> time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in some practice.
> Good luck all!
> Regards from
> Tom :)

Thanks for mentioning this.   :)I think bug hunts are great, but I
need to ask this question:   how does the current backlog of bugs factor
in with these bug hunts? I understand the bug hunts are great for
finding new bugs, but I've filed several bug reports, some of which have
been stagnant for over six months.  Here is an example:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57116

I'm excited about LibreOffice 4.3's release because the software keeps
getting better and better.  However, it's also a bit frustrating when
reported issues exist for a long period of time.

Thanks!

Peace...

Tom

>
>
>
> On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli  wrote:
>
>> The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the first
>> LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with the
>> availability of the first beta of the new major release in calendar week
>> 21 (May 23 to May 25).
>>
>> Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting session are on
>> TDF wiki (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0),
>> where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new features and
>> improvements to check for bugs and regressions
>> (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).
>>
>> To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with Windows, MacOS or
>> Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
>> http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of enthusiasm.
>>
>> Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of experienced
>> volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
>> (libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
>> (irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).
>>
>> A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be organized - with
>> the same pattern - immediately after the release of LibreOffice 4.3
>> Release Candidate 1, in mid June.
>>
>> Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.
>>
>> --
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>> mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795
>> sip it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli
>> hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com
>> email it...@documentfoundation.org
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
ooops! i sent again before editing or completing! :(

The link for the QA team is in the announcement.  The link for posting
bug-reports is here
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport
but i think there is something special set-up for people taking part in the
competition.

I wish there was a prize (other than kudos) for the winners!  Not that i'd
win it!
Regards from
Tom :)




On 24 April 2014 18:54, Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
> Wow!  Errr, the QA team have more idea about details like that.  At a
> guess the competition starts at the point-in-time when the 4.3.0
> pre-release becomes available.  I could easily be wrong but i think that's
> how i'd
>
>
> On 24 April 2014 17:16, upscope  wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, April 24, 2014 02:09:16 PM Tom Davies wrote:
>> > Hi :)
>> > These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.
>> >
>> > It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself racing
>> > against other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you know
>> > nothing about how to do it there are experienced people on-hand to
>> > help.  If you don't know coding then that can even be an advantage
>> > because you avoid getting embroiled in 'interesting' details.
>> >
>> > Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as netbooks and
>> > things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks as top
>> > prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I think
>> > this time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in some
>> > practice. Good luck all!
>> > Regards from
>> > Tom :)
>> >
>> > On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli 
>> wrote:
>> > > The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the first
>> > > LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with the
>> > > availability of the first beta of the new major release in calendar
>> > > week 21 (May 23 to May 25).
>> > >
>> > > Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting session are
>> > > on
>> > > TDF wiki
>> > > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0),
>> > > where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new features
>> > > and improvements to check for bugs and regressions
>> > > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).
>> > >
>> > > To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with Windows,
>> > > MacOS or Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
>> >> http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of enthusiasm.
>> > >
>> > > Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of
>> > > experienced
>> > > volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
>> > > (libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
>> > > (irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).
>> > >
>> > > A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be organized -
>> > > with
>> > > the same pattern - immediately after the release of LibreOffice 4.3
>> > > Release Candidate 1, in mid June.
>> > >
>> > > Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.
>> > >
>> > > --
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>> Tom thanks for the heads up. Will 4.3 be available for download in
>> advance of the actual Beta release date/ I have been using the 4.2.4 RC1
>> on my openSUSE 13.1 for the last week. So far no issues with CALC (at
>> least my spreadsheets). Writer still has problems with a .docx document
>> I get each month. Does not show some of the graphics. The version of
>> Word is 2010.  I can enter a bug report if necessary and attach the
>> Writer page and one from the PDF to show what it should look like.
>>
>> Let me know where to post the bug.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Russ
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Wow!  Errr, the QA team have more idea about details like that.  At a guess
the competition starts at the point-in-time when the 4.3.0 pre-release
becomes available.  I could easily be wrong but i think that's how i'd


On 24 April 2014 17:16, upscope  wrote:

> On Thursday, April 24, 2014 02:09:16 PM Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.
> >
> > It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself racing
> > against other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you know
> > nothing about how to do it there are experienced people on-hand to
> > help.  If you don't know coding then that can even be an advantage
> > because you avoid getting embroiled in 'interesting' details.
> >
> > Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as netbooks and
> > things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks as top
> > prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I think
> > this time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in some
> > practice. Good luck all!
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> > On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli 
> wrote:
> > > The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the first
> > > LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with the
> > > availability of the first beta of the new major release in calendar
> > > week 21 (May 23 to May 25).
> > >
> > > Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting session are
> > > on
> > > TDF wiki
> > > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0),
> > > where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new features
> > > and improvements to check for bugs and regressions
> > > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).
> > >
> > > To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with Windows,
> > > MacOS or Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
> >> http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of enthusiasm.
> > >
> > > Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of
> > > experienced
> > > volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
> > > (libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
> > > (irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).
> > >
> > > A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be organized -
> > > with
> > > the same pattern - immediately after the release of LibreOffice 4.3
> > > Release Candidate 1, in mid June.
> > >
> > > Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation
> > > mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795
> > > sip it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli
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>
> Tom thanks for the heads up. Will 4.3 be available for download in
> advance of the actual Beta release date/ I have been using the 4.2.4 RC1
> on my openSUSE 13.1 for the last week. So far no issues with CALC (at
> least my spreadsheets). Writer still has problems with a .docx document
> I get each month. Does not show some of the graphics. The version of
> Word is 2010.  I can enter a bug report if necessary and attach the
> Writer page and one from the PDF to show what it should look like.
>
> Let me know where to post the bug.
>
> Thanks
>
> Russ
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-24 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Upscope,

On 24 avril 2014 18:16:29 CEST, upscope  wrote:
>On Thursday, April 24, 2014 02:09:16 PM Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.
>> 
>> It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself racing
>> against other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you know
>> nothing about how to do it there are experienced people on-hand to
>> help.  If you don't know coding then that can even be an advantage
>> because you avoid getting embroiled in 'interesting' details.
>> 
>> Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as netbooks and
>> things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks as top
>> prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I think
>> this time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in some
>> practice. Good luck all!
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>> 
>> On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli  
>wrote:
>> > The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the first
>> > LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with the
>> > availability of the first beta of the new major release in calendar
>> > week 21 (May 23 to May 25).
>> > 
>> > Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting session are
>> > on
>> > TDF wiki
>> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0),
>> > where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new features
>> > and improvements to check for bugs and regressions
>> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).
>> > 
>> > To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with Windows,
>> > MacOS or Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
>>> http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of enthusiasm.
>> > 
>> > Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of
>> > experienced
>> > volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
>> > (libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
>> > (irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).
>> > 
>> > A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be organized -
>> > with
>> > the same pattern - immediately after the release of LibreOffice 4.3
>> > Release Candidate 1, in mid June.
>> > 
>> > Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.
>> > 
>> > --
>> > Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation
>> > mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795
>> > sip it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli
>> > hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com
>> > email it...@documentfoundation.org
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>
>Tom thanks for the heads up. Will 4.3 be available for download in 
>advance of the actual Beta release date/ I have been using the 4.2.4
>RC1 
>on my openSUSE 13.1 for the last week. So far no issues with CALC (at 
>least my spreadsheets). Writer still has problems with a .docx document
>
>I get each month. Does not show some of the graphics. The version of 
>Word is 2010.  I can enter a bug report if necessary and attach the 
>Writer page and one from the PDF to show what it should look like.

By any means, please do, that would help a lot.


>
>Let me know where to post the bug.

Here: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/

Thanks, 

Charles. 

>
>Thanks
>
>Russ

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-24 Thread upscope
On Thursday, April 24, 2014 02:09:16 PM Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.
> 
> It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself racing
> against other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you know
> nothing about how to do it there are experienced people on-hand to
> help.  If you don't know coding then that can even be an advantage
> because you avoid getting embroiled in 'interesting' details.
> 
> Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as netbooks and
> things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks as top
> prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I think
> this time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in some
> practice. Good luck all!
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli  
wrote:
> > The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the first
> > LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with the
> > availability of the first beta of the new major release in calendar
> > week 21 (May 23 to May 25).
> > 
> > Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting session are
> > on
> > TDF wiki
> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0),
> > where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new features
> > and improvements to check for bugs and regressions
> > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).
> > 
> > To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with Windows,
> > MacOS or Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
>> http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of enthusiasm.
> > 
> > Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of
> > experienced
> > volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
> > (libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
> > (irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).
> > 
> > A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be organized -
> > with
> > the same pattern - immediately after the release of LibreOffice 4.3
> > Release Candidate 1, in mid June.
> > 
> > Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.
> > 
> > --
> > Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation
> > mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795
> > sip it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli
> > hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com
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Tom thanks for the heads up. Will 4.3 be available for download in 
advance of the actual Beta release date/ I have been using the 4.2.4 RC1 
on my openSUSE 13.1 for the last week. So far no issues with CALC (at 
least my spreadsheets). Writer still has problems with a .docx document 
I get each month. Does not show some of the graphics. The version of 
Word is 2010.  I can enter a bug report if necessary and attach the 
Writer page and one from the PDF to show what it should look like.

Let me know where to post the bug.

Thanks

Russ
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[libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-announce] Get ready for LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session

2014-04-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
These bug-hunting sessions can be a great fun.

It's only for a short time-period so you can find yourself racing against
other people who are also new to it all.  Even if you know nothing about
how to do it there are experienced people on-hand to help.  If you don't
know coding then that can even be an advantage because you avoid getting
embroiled in 'interesting' details.

Sometimes these competitions have led to prizes, such as netbooks and
things.  Bodhi Linux have such awarded a a few people netboks as top
prizes.  The QA team here did the same around a year ago.  I think this
time there isn't a prize but it's a good time to get in some practice.
Good luck all!
Regards from
Tom :)



On 24 April 2014 12:19, Italo Vignoli  wrote:

> The Document Foundation (TDF) announces the schedule of the first
> LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session, which will start with the
> availability of the first beta of the new major release in calendar week
> 21 (May 23 to May 25).
>
> Participating will be easy. Details of the bug hunting session are on
> TDF wiki (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0),
> where there is also a growing list of LibreOffice 4.3 new features and
> improvements to check for bugs and regressions
> (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.3).
>
> To participate, it will be necessary to have a PC with Windows, MacOS or
> Linux, and LibreOffice 4.3 Beta 1 (available at
> http://www.libreoffice.org/pre-releases), plus a lot of enthusiasm.
>
> Filing bugs will be extremely easy, thanks to the help of experienced
> volunteers who will be around on the QA mailing list
> (libreoffice...@lists.freedesktop.org) and IRC channel
> (irc://irc.freenode.net/#libreoffice-qa).
>
> A second LibreOffice 4.3 bug hunting session will be organized - with
> the same pattern - immediately after the release of LibreOffice 4.3
> Release Candidate 1, in mid June.
>
> Short link to TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-uy.
>
> --
> Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation
> mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795
> sip it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli
> hangout / jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com
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