[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Conflicts with OOo

2011-11-05 Thread NoOp 
On 11/03/2011 10:00 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
>>"NoOp"  wrote in message 
...
>>Harold, check your attributes. I didn't with *any* of what you just
>>quoted.
> 
> No, you didn't. That was a mistake. Apologies.
...
No worries Harold... I was having a bad 'no hair' day.

All the best. Gary


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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Conflicts with OOo

2011-11-03 Thread Harold Fuchs 
"NoOp"  wrote in message 
news:j8q5dk$scb$1...@dough.gmane.org...


Sorry for the delay, been out of action for a few days.


On 10/31/2011 02:31 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:


"NoOp"  wrote in message
news:j8i8on$g8u$1...@dough.gmane.org...




You can run the programs the same time, if each instance uses a
different folder for the user settings. Also the other way round is
possible, running one application with different users settings at the
same time, again different folders for the user settings are needed.


*NoOp didn't write that*






I don't think this can be correct. The conflict I reported was between a
non-portable OOo installed to the C: drive on the machine and a portable 
LO

installed on a USB key. I don't think they'd be using the same folder for
user settings.



Harold, check your attributes. I didn't with *any* of what you just
quoted.


No, you didn't. That was a mistake. Apologies.



And while you're at it, fix your email client so that it doesn't
add an email address in 'wrote in message'. It's rude and assist
spammers in the process.



I don't think I can fix my mail client - Outlook Express 6 - which I have 
been using to handle OOo and LO mail lists since I joined quite a few years 
ago. If you know how, please let me know (yes, I have Googled quite 
extensively without joy). If you think it's rude, sorry. BUT you are the 
first person in many years to mention it and I know I'm not the only one 
whose replies include the originator's e-mail address.


Regards, Harold 




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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Conflicts with OOo

2011-11-02 Thread NoOp 
On 11/02/2011 09:16 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :) It looks pretty clear to me.  

What looks "pretty clear" to you?

> Anyway you can never really trust
> how the thread might have been manipulated along the way so judging
> people based on a reply of a reply of a reply would be pretty dumb.
> The content is more important than who said what and is only useful
> if the most recent post in the thread doesn't seem to make much sense
> on it's own.

Nonsense. Harold knows how to read threads (even top-posted mangled ones).

> 
> There is no need to give people a hard time just because they don't
> do things your way.  Freedom of choice right? Regards from Tom :)

Excuse me? "don't do things your way"?? If I post a reply and attribute
the content to you, and you hadn't posted any of it would that be
"Freedom of choice"? Nevermind, don't answer that; it will keep the list
cleaner.
...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Conflicts with OOo

2011-11-02 Thread Tom Davies 
Hi :)
It looks pretty clear to me.  Anyway you can never really trust how the thread 
might have been manipulated along the way so judging people based on a reply of 
a reply of a reply would be pretty dumb.  The content is more important than 
who said what and is only useful if the most recent post in the thread doesn't 
seem to make much sense on it's own.  

There is no need to give people a hard time just because they don't do things 
your way.  Freedom of choice right?
Regards from
Tom :)
 

--- On Wed, 2/11/11, NoOp  wrote:

> From: NoOp 
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Conflicts with OOo
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Wednesday, 2 November, 2011, 1:12
> On 10/31/2011 02:31 AM, Harold Fuchs
> wrote:
> > 
> > "NoOp" 
> wrote in message 
> > news:j8i8on$g8u$1...@dough.gmane.org...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> You can run the programs the same time, if each
> instance uses a
> >> different folder for the user settings. Also the
> other way round is
> >> possible, running one application with different
> users settings at the
> >> same time, again different folders for the user
> settings are needed.
> 
> *NoOp didn't write that*
> 
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > I don't think this can be correct. The conflict I
> reported was between a 
> > non-portable OOo installed to the C: drive on the
> machine and a portable LO 
> > installed on a USB key. I don't think they'd be using
> the same folder for 
> > user settings.
> > 
> 
> Harold, check your attributes. I didn't with *any* of what
> you just
> quoted. And while you're at it, fix your email client so
> that it doesn't
> add an email address in 'wrote in message'. It's rude and
> assist
> spammers in the process.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Conflicts with OOo

2011-11-01 Thread NoOp 
On 10/31/2011 02:31 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:
> 
> "NoOp"  wrote in message 
> news:j8i8on$g8u$1...@dough.gmane.org...
> 
> 
> 
>> You can run the programs the same time, if each instance uses a
>> different folder for the user settings. Also the other way round is
>> possible, running one application with different users settings at the
>> same time, again different folders for the user settings are needed.

*NoOp didn't write that*

>>
> 
> 
> I don't think this can be correct. The conflict I reported was between a 
> non-portable OOo installed to the C: drive on the machine and a portable LO 
> installed on a USB key. I don't think they'd be using the same folder for 
> user settings.
> 

Harold, check your attributes. I didn't with *any* of what you just
quoted. And while you're at it, fix your email client so that it doesn't
add an email address in 'wrote in message'. It's rude and assist
spammers in the process.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Conflicts with OOo

2011-10-31 Thread MiguelAngel 
El 31/10/11 10:55, Stephan Zietsman escribió:
> Harold Fuchs wrote:
>> The conflict I reported was between a
>> non-portable OOo installed to the C: drive on the machine and a portable LO
>> installed on a USB key. I don't think they'd be using the same folder for
>> user settings.
> As far as I know, the portable version uses the profile on the USB key
> (as you mention).  It seems to be located here:
> Z:\PortableApps\LibreOfficePortable\Data\settings (where "Z:\" is the
> USB key's drive letter).
>
> Please check your attribution.  I believe it was Regina Henschel who
> said you could use different user settings.  From your post, it seems
> like No.
>
> Regards
> Stephan
>

As I can see, the problem is only with portable version, may be
something is eliminated to reduce the pack size.
Miguel Ángel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Conflicts with OOo

2011-10-31 Thread Stephan Zietsman 
Harold Fuchs wrote:
> The conflict I reported was between a
> non-portable OOo installed to the C: drive on the machine and a portable LO
> installed on a USB key. I don't think they'd be using the same folder for
> user settings.

As far as I know, the portable version uses the profile on the USB key
(as you mention).  It seems to be located here:
Z:\PortableApps\LibreOfficePortable\Data\settings (where "Z:\" is the
USB key's drive letter).

Please check your attribution.  I believe it was Regina Henschel who
said you could use different user settings.  From your post, it seems
like NoOp.

Regards
Stephan

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Conflicts with OOo

2011-10-31 Thread Harold Fuchs 


"NoOp"  wrote in message 
news:j8i8on$g8u$1...@dough.gmane.org...





You can run the programs the same time, if each instance uses a
different folder for the user settings. Also the other way round is
possible, running one application with different users settings at the
same time, again different folders for the user settings are needed.




I don't think this can be correct. The conflict I reported was between a 
non-portable OOo installed to the C: drive on the machine and a portable LO 
installed on a USB key. I don't think they'd be using the same folder for 
user settings.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Conflicts with OOo

2011-10-29 Thread Tom Davies 
Hi :)
I think it's going to be easier to do something quite radical AFTER code 
clean-up is almost done.  Surely it's got to be done to the entire code-base 
all at once and all the libraries and all have to be changed at the same time?  
I don't think it's a trivial thing to fix.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sun, 30/10/11, NoOp  wrote:

> From: NoOp 
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO Conflicts with OOo
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Sunday, 30 October, 2011, 1:20
> On 10/29/2011 02:17 PM, Regina
> Henschel wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Tom Davies schrieb:
> >> Hi :) There is a guide to help avoid the usual
> conflicts
> >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
> >>
> >> I think the problems are mostly when both version
> are open at the
> >> same time, for example if one is permanently kinda
> open by having
> >> it's QuickLauncher on. Regards from Tom :)
> > 
> > You can run the programs the same time, if each
> instance uses a 
> > different folder for the user settings. Also the other
> way round is 
> > possible, running one application with different users
> settings at the 
> > same time, again different folders for the user
> settings are needed.
> > 
> > Only the association between document type and program
> is unique.
> 
> That is still a *serious* issue. Please see:
> 
> <http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.devel/4130>
> and in particular:
> <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.devel/4359>
> <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.devel/4360>
> 
> You can of course find the thread in the .dev list under
> "Change
> executable/sh names".
> 
> The issue seems to have fallen on deaf ears following that
> thread. Seems
> to me that with all the thousands of lines of code
> 'clean-up' reported
> by TDF dev, the actual program .exe's could have been
> renamed from
> swriter to lowriter et al or similar by now.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Conflicts with OOo

2011-10-29 Thread NoOp 
On 10/29/2011 02:17 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Tom Davies schrieb:
>> Hi :) There is a guide to help avoid the usual conflicts
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
>>
>> I think the problems are mostly when both version are open at the
>> same time, for example if one is permanently kinda open by having
>> it's QuickLauncher on. Regards from Tom :)
> 
> You can run the programs the same time, if each instance uses a 
> different folder for the user settings. Also the other way round is 
> possible, running one application with different users settings at the 
> same time, again different folders for the user settings are needed.
> 
> Only the association between document type and program is unique.

That is still a *serious* issue. Please see:


and in particular:



You can of course find the thread in the .dev list under "Change
executable/sh names".

The issue seems to have fallen on deaf ears following that thread. Seems
to me that with all the thousands of lines of code 'clean-up' reported
by TDF dev, the actual program .exe's could have been renamed from
swriter to lowriter et al or similar by now.






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