Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
I have not been following this thread, but the original question is something that happened to me once. What I did was: uninstall LibreOffice. delete the hidden folder .libreoffice [for Ubuntu] or delete LibreOffice's Program Files folder [for Windows]. reinstall LibreOffice That fixed the constant recovery [and failed recovery every time] on my system. I want to ask what GUI are you using for Ubuntu 11.04? Unity [default], KDE, or the optional GNOME? I do not think I would use the Unity GUI though. I like having GNOME as my GUI with a lot of added KDE system packages installed. That way I have GNOME GUI with many of the KDE packages that GNOME seems either not have or are not fitting my needs. - I cannot install 11.04 on mine due to an unsupported monitor error. 1368 by 768 is the largest and default resolution. It should be able to use the 1024 by 768 resolution or lower, but 11.04 just will not. I think since the motherboard's Nvidia chipset, it sees that the chipset supports 1920 by 1080 and 1440 by 900 so it defaults its startup resolution to one of those unsupported resolutions for my monitor. Once day I will fix that issue and install 11.04 instead of having 10.04 LTS. On 08/04/2011 06:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) A clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 should do the trick. Going for a dual-boot or multi-boot is a lot easier than it sounds. The standard install process usually gives you the option in the Partitioning Section. Possibly the 2nd or 3rd standard option out of about 4 options on that page. The 4th option gets a bit technical but you can always click on the Back button if it's too complicated and then change to one of the standard 2 or 3 options. I think you could handle it tho. Regards from Tom :) From: Juan Carlosjuanzeppe...@hotmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 19:48:30 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the problem. Thanks to all who shared their opinions. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/QUESTION-Libreoffice-documents-constantly-need-recovery-tp2515584p3226318.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Hi :) Renaming the .libreoffice or even better, one of it's sub-folders (such as the user/3), has the same effect as deleting it except that you are able to have a look at your old stuff even tho LibreOffice can't see it. It effectively quarantines your old set-up. I have tried installing 11.04 a couple of times and each time it has automatically given me the Gnome DE rather than Unity because it couldn't handle my monitor/graphics-card. I think your particular issue is that you connect your flat-screen using a Vga cable rather than Hdmi, Dvi or whatever. In my case it's because my monitor is a horribly ancient and dying Crt. (My 2nd Crt is still quite nice). Hopefully the 11.10 due to be released at the end of October ('obviously', (hence the .10)) will have beaten Unity into better shape. The 3rd alpha release has just been released but i'm not keen to test things that early, maybe wait for beta 2. The 10.04 and 10.10 are great but i am about to try out a few other distros again as LiveCds and then perhaps dual/multi-boots if i like the look. I might even try contacting a few distro hoppers. I'm not keen to move away from Ubuntu but there are a lot of ubuntu clones worth trying. I might try the new Zorin. Obviously i am going to try the more obvious ones such as Mint, Mageia, openSUSE but i have already had a quick go with most. Mint and Mageia are the most interesting and worth trying imo. http://distrowatch.com/ Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 5 August, 2011 13:02:46 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery I have not been following this thread, but the original question is something that happened to me once. What I did was: uninstall LibreOffice. delete the hidden folder .libreoffice [for Ubuntu] or delete LibreOffice's Program Files folder [for Windows]. reinstall LibreOffice That fixed the constant recovery [and failed recovery every time] on my system. I want to ask what GUI are you using for Ubuntu 11.04? Unity [default], KDE, or the optional GNOME? I do not think I would use the Unity GUI though. I like having GNOME as my GUI with a lot of added KDE system packages installed. That way I have GNOME GUI with many of the KDE packages that GNOME seems either not have or are not fitting my needs. - I cannot install 11.04 on mine due to an unsupported monitor error. 1368 by 768 is the largest and default resolution. It should be able to use the 1024 by 768 resolution or lower, but 11.04 just will not. I think since the motherboard's Nvidia chipset, it sees that the chipset supports 1920 by 1080 and 1440 by 900 so it defaults its startup resolution to one of those unsupported resolutions for my monitor. Once day I will fix that issue and install 11.04 instead of having 10.04 LTS. On 08/04/2011 06:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) A clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 should do the trick. Going for a dual-boot or multi-boot is a lot easier than it sounds. The standard install process usually gives you the option in the Partitioning Section. Possibly the 2nd or 3rd standard option out of about 4 options on that page. The 4th option gets a bit technical but you can always click on the Back button if it's too complicated and then change to one of the standard 2 or 3 options. I think you could handle it tho. Regards from Tom :) From: Juan Carlosjuanzeppe...@hotmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 19:48:30 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the problem. Thanks to all who shared their opinions. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/QUESTION-Libreoffice-documents-constantly-need-recovery-tp2515584p3226318.html l Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Sorry, but the only monitor connection that I have is the standard VGA cable which is attached to the motherboard. Plus the Acer monitor uses VGA cable as well. Now my 19 inch flat scree TV can use VGA or HDMI cables. I have a VGA cable plugged into it for working with showing stuff from a laptop to the TV for a larger display. As for CRT, I have two massively have 17 inch ones in the bottom shelf dead storage cabinet. I was thinking about installing 11.04 with one of those installed instead of the 18 inch flat screen. The Unity issue: well all I have read about 11.04 was that Unity was the default GUI, but you could choose to use GNOME after the initial install. It would be nice to have to choose Unity instead of it being the default. On 08/05/2011 08:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Renaming the .libreoffice or even better, one of it's sub-folders (such as the user/3), has the same effect as deleting it except that you are able to have a look at your old stuff even tho LibreOffice can't see it. It effectively quarantines your old set-up. I have tried installing 11.04 a couple of times and each time it has automatically given me the Gnome DE rather than Unity because it couldn't handle my monitor/graphics-card. I think your particular issue is that you connect your flat-screen using a Vga cable rather than Hdmi, Dvi or whatever. In my case it's because my monitor is a horribly ancient and dying Crt. (My 2nd Crt is still quite nice). Hopefully the 11.10 due to be released at the end of October ('obviously', (hence the .10)) will have beaten Unity into better shape. The 3rd alpha release has just been released but i'm not keen to test things that early, maybe wait for beta 2. The 10.04 and 10.10 are great but i am about to try out a few other distros again as LiveCds and then perhaps dual/multi-boots if i like the look. I might even try contacting a few distro hoppers. I'm not keen to move away from Ubuntu but there are a lot of ubuntu clones worth trying. I might try the new Zorin. Obviously i am going to try the more obvious ones such as Mint, Mageia, openSUSE but i have already had a quick go with most. Mint and Mageia are the most interesting and worth trying imo. http://distrowatch.com/ Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 5 August, 2011 13:02:46 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery I have not been following this thread, but the original question is something that happened to me once. What I did was: uninstall LibreOffice. delete the hidden folder .libreoffice [for Ubuntu] or delete LibreOffice's Program Files folder [for Windows]. reinstall LibreOffice That fixed the constant recovery [and failed recovery every time] on my system. I want to ask what GUI are you using for Ubuntu 11.04? Unity [default], KDE, or the optional GNOME? I do not think I would use the Unity GUI though. I like having GNOME as my GUI with a lot of added KDE system packages installed. That way I have GNOME GUI with many of the KDE packages that GNOME seems either not have or are not fitting my needs. - I cannot install 11.04 on mine due to an unsupported monitor error. 1368 by 768 is the largest and default resolution. It should be able to use the 1024 by 768 resolution or lower, but 11.04 just will not. I think since the motherboard's Nvidia chipset, it sees that the chipset supports 1920 by 1080 and 1440 by 900 so it defaults its startup resolution to one of those unsupported resolutions for my monitor. Once day I will fix that issue and install 11.04 instead of having 10.04 LTS. On 08/04/2011 06:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) A clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 should do the trick. Going for a dual-boot or multi-boot is a lot easier than it sounds. The standard install process usually gives you the option in the Partitioning Section. Possibly the 2nd or 3rd standard option out of about 4 options on that page. The 4th option gets a bit technical but you can always click on the Back button if it's too complicated and then change to one of the standard 2 or 3 options. I think you could handle it tho. Regards from Tom :) From: Juan Carlosjuanzeppe...@hotmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 19:48:30 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the problem. Thanks to all who shared their opinions. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/QUESTION-Libreoffice-documents-constantly-need-recovery-tp2515584p3226318.html l Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Hi :) Tada! :) Vga strikes again. It was such a fantastic thing for so many decades that they had to create a problem for it with the new-fangled flat-screen tech. I don't remember being given a choice of DE for 11.04 but switching is so easy for me that i might not have noticed. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 5 August, 2011 13:55:32 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery Sorry, but the only monitor connection that I have is the standard VGA cable which is attached to the motherboard. Plus the Acer monitor uses VGA cable as well. Now my 19 inch flat scree TV can use VGA or HDMI cables. I have a VGA cable plugged into it for working with showing stuff from a laptop to the TV for a larger display. As for CRT, I have two massively have 17 inch ones in the bottom shelf dead storage cabinet. I was thinking about installing 11.04 with one of those installed instead of the 18 inch flat screen. The Unity issue: well all I have read about 11.04 was that Unity was the default GUI, but you could choose to use GNOME after the initial install. It would be nice to have to choose Unity instead of it being the default. On 08/05/2011 08:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Renaming the .libreoffice or even better, one of it's sub-folders (such as the user/3), has the same effect as deleting it except that you are able to have a look at your old stuff even tho LibreOffice can't see it. It effectively quarantines your old set-up. I have tried installing 11.04 a couple of times and each time it has automatically given me the Gnome DE rather than Unity because it couldn't handle my monitor/graphics-card. I think your particular issue is that you connect your flat-screen using a Vga cable rather than Hdmi, Dvi or whatever. In my case it's because my monitor is a horribly ancient and dying Crt. (My 2nd Crt is still quite nice). Hopefully the 11.10 due to be released at the end of October ('obviously', (hence the .10)) will have beaten Unity into better shape. The 3rd alpha release has just been released but i'm not keen to test things that early, maybe wait for beta 2. The 10.04 and 10.10 are great but i am about to try out a few other distros again as LiveCds and then perhaps dual/multi-boots if i like the look. I might even try contacting a few distro hoppers. I'm not keen to move away from Ubuntu but there are a lot of ubuntu clones worth trying. I might try the new Zorin. Obviously i am going to try the more obvious ones such as Mint, Mageia, openSUSE but i have already had a quick go with most. Mint and Mageia are the most interesting and worth trying imo. http://distrowatch.com/ Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 5 August, 2011 13:02:46 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery I have not been following this thread, but the original question is something that happened to me once. What I did was: uninstall LibreOffice. delete the hidden folder .libreoffice [for Ubuntu] or delete LibreOffice's Program Files folder [for Windows]. reinstall LibreOffice That fixed the constant recovery [and failed recovery every time] on my system. I want to ask what GUI are you using for Ubuntu 11.04? Unity [default], KDE, or the optional GNOME? I do not think I would use the Unity GUI though. I like having GNOME as my GUI with a lot of added KDE system packages installed. That way I have GNOME GUI with many of the KDE packages that GNOME seems either not have or are not fitting my needs. - I cannot install 11.04 on mine due to an unsupported monitor error. 1368 by 768 is the largest and default resolution. It should be able to use the 1024 by 768 resolution or lower, but 11.04 just will not. I think since the motherboard's Nvidia chipset, it sees that the chipset supports 1920 by 1080 and 1440 by 900 so it defaults its startup resolution to one of those unsupported resolutions for my monitor. Once day I will fix that issue and install 11.04 instead of having 10.04 LTS. On 08/04/2011 06:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) A clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 should do the trick. Going for a dual-boot or multi-boot is a lot easier than it sounds. The standard install process usually gives you the option in the Partitioning Section. Possibly the 2nd or 3rd standard option out of about 4 options on that page. The 4th option gets a bit technical but you can always click on the Back button if it's too complicated and then change to one of the standard 2 or 3 options. I think you could handle it tho. Regards from Tom
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
I left Ubuntu because of its new release. I would recommend LinuxMint. Wayne On 08/02/2011 09:04 PM, Roland Hughes wrote: Move to OpenSuSE. Your life will be a lot better. Ubuntu has lost its way. On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 07:00 +0300, David Nelson wrote: Hi Juan, On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Juan Carlosjuanzeppe...@hotmail.com wrote: I use ubuntu 10.10, which contains openoffice for default, so I had to de-install it and download the deb packages from libreoffice.org. Also I tried to download and install it from the PPA (ppa:libreoffice/ppa) and occurs the same problem. Recently installed the 3.4.2 version and still occurs the problem. Are you ready to envision the upgrade to 11.04? I say upgrade in quotes because my own experience with upgrading left me with a somewhat broken system due to the roll-out of the Unity GUI as a major change to Gnome (not an issue for you if you're a KDE or XFCE user). I ended up totally backing-up and re-installing my system, but then everything was back to normal. Then you'd have an Ubuntu-integrated LibO and might have resolved the problem. If not, you might also post to the Ubuntu user's list, too, to see if anyone has any ideas. But I'm not sure what issues might have crept in with the installing/de-installing of the PPA version and installing 3.4.2 over the top. By the way, if you install 11.04, you'll get 3.3.2, which is not the leading edge like 3.4.2 but is perhaps a better bet for you. -- David Nelson -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the problem. Thanks to all who shared their opinions. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/QUESTION-Libreoffice-documents-constantly-need-recovery-tp2515584p3226318.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Hi :) It's a lot less hassle to change distros, especially if they use the same DE and are in the same family. Mint sounds like a good plan. Of course the easiest thing is to install Mint as a dual/multi-boot so that you can keep going back to the old Ubuntu if you need to. Regards from Tom :) From: Wayne infotech...@lavabit.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 20:48:20 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery I left Ubuntu because of its new release. I would recommend LinuxMint. Wayne On 08/02/2011 09:04 PM, Roland Hughes wrote: Move to OpenSuSE. Your life will be a lot better. Ubuntu has lost its way. On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 07:00 +0300, David Nelson wrote: Hi Juan, On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Juan Carlosjuanzeppe...@hotmail.com wrote: I use ubuntu 10.10, which contains openoffice for default, so I had to de-install it and download the deb packages from libreoffice.org. Also I tried to download and install it from the PPA (ppa:libreoffice/ppa) and occurs the same problem. Recently installed the 3.4.2 version and still occurs the problem. Are you ready to envision the upgrade to 11.04? I say upgrade in quotes because my own experience with upgrading left me with a somewhat broken system due to the roll-out of the Unity GUI as a major change to Gnome (not an issue for you if you're a KDE or XFCE user). I ended up totally backing-up and re-installing my system, but then everything was back to normal. Then you'd have an Ubuntu-integrated LibO and might have resolved the problem. If not, you might also post to the Ubuntu user's list, too, to see if anyone has any ideas. But I'm not sure what issues might have crept in with the installing/de-installing of the PPA version and installing 3.4.2 over the top. By the way, if you install 11.04, you'll get 3.3.2, which is not the leading edge like 3.4.2 but is perhaps a better bet for you. -- David Nelson -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Hi :) A clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 should do the trick. Going for a dual-boot or multi-boot is a lot easier than it sounds. The standard install process usually gives you the option in the Partitioning Section. Possibly the 2nd or 3rd standard option out of about 4 options on that page. The 4th option gets a bit technical but you can always click on the Back button if it's too complicated and then change to one of the standard 2 or 3 options. I think you could handle it tho. Regards from Tom :) From: Juan Carlos juanzeppe...@hotmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 19:48:30 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the problem. Thanks to all who shared their opinions. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/QUESTION-Libreoffice-documents-constantly-need-recovery-tp2515584p3226318.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
OpenSuSE 11.4 has been very good to me. Their 64-bit stuff actually works! On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 12:48 -0700, Wayne wrote: I left Ubuntu because of its new release. I would recommend LinuxMint. Wayne On 08/02/2011 09:04 PM, Roland Hughes wrote: Move to OpenSuSE. Your life will be a lot better. Ubuntu has lost its way. On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 07:00 +0300, David Nelson wrote: Hi Juan, On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Juan Carlosjuanzeppe...@hotmail.com wrote: I use ubuntu 10.10, which contains openoffice for default, so I had to de-install it and download the deb packages from libreoffice.org. Also I tried to download and install it from the PPA (ppa:libreoffice/ppa) and occurs the same problem. Recently installed the 3.4.2 version and still occurs the problem. Are you ready to envision the upgrade to 11.04? I say upgrade in quotes because my own experience with upgrading left me with a somewhat broken system due to the roll-out of the Unity GUI as a major change to Gnome (not an issue for you if you're a KDE or XFCE user). I ended up totally backing-up and re-installing my system, but then everything was back to normal. Then you'd have an Ubuntu-integrated LibO and might have resolved the problem. If not, you might also post to the Ubuntu user's list, too, to see if anyone has any ideas. But I'm not sure what issues might have crept in with the installing/de-installing of the PPA version and installing 3.4.2 over the top. By the way, if you install 11.04, you'll get 3.3.2, which is not the leading edge like 3.4.2 but is perhaps a better bet for you. -- David Nelson -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Ubuntu just blows. It's going to get worse, not better with time. They have an overriding design constraint which ensures disaster. MUST FIT ON ONE CD. This leads to forcing shared images on things which SHOULD NOT use them and a boat load of untested code in each release. God forbid you ever try and install the KDE desktop with your default Gnome desktop. Less than half of everything will continue to work. Absolute zero multi-desktop testing occurs because they bust things up. With OpenSuSE 11.4 I can switch between KDE and GNOME on a whim and know it was all tested. On Thu, 2011-08-04 at 23:13 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) A clean install of Ubuntu 11.04 should do the trick. Going for a dual-boot or multi-boot is a lot easier than it sounds. The standard install process usually gives you the option in the Partitioning Section. Possibly the 2nd or 3rd standard option out of about 4 options on that page. The 4th option gets a bit technical but you can always click on the Back button if it's too complicated and then change to one of the standard 2 or 3 options. I think you could handle it tho. Regards from Tom :) From: Juan Carlos juanzeppe...@hotmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 19:48:30 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the problem. Thanks to all who shared their opinions. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/QUESTION-Libreoffice-documents-constantly-need-recovery-tp2515584p3226318.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Hi :) Err, i kept meaning to search out these guides, particularly the one from Ubuntu Geek http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-libreoffice-in-ubuntu-11-0410-1010-04-using-ppa.html http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-LibreOffice-in-Ubuntu-10-10-and-Ubuntu-10-04-177762.shtml The Ubuntu Geek one is the one that i used to get the right PPA but then instead of installing from the command-line i used Synaptic Package Manager. It's advanced search helped me find all the bits of OpenOffice and then uninstall them. It also let me pickchoose what parts of LibreOffice i wanted. If you want to do a dual-boot to add 11.04 (or Mint) without losing your 10.10 then these guides might help a little https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot Regards from Tom :) From: Juan Carlos juanzeppe...@hotmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 4 August, 2011 19:48:30 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery Well, after read all the possible solutions, finally I decided to install Ubuntu 11.04 (a clean installation) and reinstall LO. I hope this fix the problem. Thanks to all who shared their opinions. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/QUESTION-Libreoffice-documents-constantly-need-recovery-tp2515584p3226318.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Hi Juan, On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Juan Carlos juanzeppe...@hotmail.com wrote: Actually, even closing correctly the document and without close Ubuntu, when start any of the LO programs (for example Impress) appears again the same dialog box with the recovery tool and the error log (that I can't find in my home folder). This seems like an anomaly. Mine doesn't do that (I'm using Ubuntu as well). I downloaded and installed the debs packages several times and the results are the same. I don't now if the problem is either LO or a compatibility issue with ubuntu, java, etc. When you say downloaded, do you mean downloaded from libreoffice.org? As Tom mentions, it's often simpler just to use the LibreOffice that Ubuntu ships. Is that your case? Where did you get your LibreOffice from? If not, I'd recommend de-installing what you've currently got and re-installing the Ubuntu-shipped version 3.3. (If necessary I can point you at instructions for that after you've answered the question above.) -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
David: I use ubuntu 10.10, which contains openoffice for default, so I had to de-install it and download the deb packages from libreoffice.org. Also I tried to download and install it from the PPA (ppa:libreoffice/ppa) and occurs the same problem. Recently installed the 3.4.2 version and still occurs the problem. Thanks PS:Neverless, I like this version, offers more settings options and, for now, I have found no errors during the recovery process. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/QUESTION-Libreoffice-documents-constantly-need-recovery-tp2515584p3219364.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Hi Juan, On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Juan Carlos juanzeppe...@hotmail.com wrote: I use ubuntu 10.10, which contains openoffice for default, so I had to de-install it and download the deb packages from libreoffice.org. Also I tried to download and install it from the PPA (ppa:libreoffice/ppa) and occurs the same problem. Recently installed the 3.4.2 version and still occurs the problem. Are you ready to envision the upgrade to 11.04? I say upgrade in quotes because my own experience with upgrading left me with a somewhat broken system due to the roll-out of the Unity GUI as a major change to Gnome (not an issue for you if you're a KDE or XFCE user). I ended up totally backing-up and re-installing my system, but then everything was back to normal. Then you'd have an Ubuntu-integrated LibO and might have resolved the problem. If not, you might also post to the Ubuntu user's list, too, to see if anyone has any ideas. But I'm not sure what issues might have crept in with the installing/de-installing of the PPA version and installing 3.4.2 over the top. By the way, if you install 11.04, you'll get 3.3.2, which is not the leading edge like 3.4.2 but is perhaps a better bet for you. -- David Nelson -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Move to OpenSuSE. Your life will be a lot better. Ubuntu has lost its way. On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 07:00 +0300, David Nelson wrote: Hi Juan, On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Juan Carlos juanzeppe...@hotmail.com wrote: I use ubuntu 10.10, which contains openoffice for default, so I had to de-install it and download the deb packages from libreoffice.org. Also I tried to download and install it from the PPA (ppa:libreoffice/ppa) and occurs the same problem. Recently installed the 3.4.2 version and still occurs the problem. Are you ready to envision the upgrade to 11.04? I say upgrade in quotes because my own experience with upgrading left me with a somewhat broken system due to the roll-out of the Unity GUI as a major change to Gnome (not an issue for you if you're a KDE or XFCE user). I ended up totally backing-up and re-installing my system, but then everything was back to normal. Then you'd have an Ubuntu-integrated LibO and might have resolved the problem. If not, you might also post to the Ubuntu user's list, too, to see if anyone has any ideas. But I'm not sure what issues might have crept in with the installing/de-installing of the PPA version and installing 3.4.2 over the top. By the way, if you install 11.04, you'll get 3.3.2, which is not the leading edge like 3.4.2 but is perhaps a better bet for you. -- David Nelson -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Hi :) Sometimes it is better to use the LibreOffice that is in the repositories because they have been tweaked for your specific distro. The .debs should work fine on all Debian family distros but sometimes it's better to have one fine-tuned to your specific distro. Which version of Ubuntu; 10.04LTS (Lucid), 10.10 (Maveric) or 11.04 (Natty)? I think Natty has LibreOffice in the standard repos and for the earlier ones you can add a PPA to expand the repos. I'm not sure how to set-up ppas but the url of the one i use in 10.04 is http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu Also the LibreOffice versions 3.3.2 and 3.3.3 are much more stable than the 3.4.1 although if you are using the 3.4.1 you might want to try the 3.4.2 that was fully released earlier today. You can keep the one you already have installed and try another to compare but only by using the instructions in this guide http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel I think that guide might be worth looking through anyway if you have installed and uninstalled a lot of times. If you need to compare 2 documents or different versions of the same document i think there are soem good tools in LibreOffice to help make that a lot easier. The Writer Guide might be able to help http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Juan Carlos juanzeppe...@hotmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 1 August, 2011 18:14:38 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery Hi David: Actually, even closing correctly the document and without close Ubuntu, when start any of the LO programs (for example Impress) appears again the same dialog box with the recovery tool and the error log (that I can't find in my home folder). I downloaded and installed the debs packages several times and the results are the same. I don't now if the problem is either LO or a compatibility issue with ubuntu, java, etc. The issue that i'm bother about is when the recovery dialog appears, I don't now if the recovered document is the same that the last I saved, and is very uncomfortable to have to check if the changes are still there, more if the document is large (like a thesis). Regards Juan -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/QUESTION-Libreoffice-documents-constantly-need-recovery-tp2515584p3216515.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Hi, On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: Are you suggesting that if you log out of or shut down Windows when you have some component part of Microsoft Office 2010 open then it will just abort and complain next time it is opened? Are you joking? Even if you have an unsaved document open, Word (or whatever) - being closed by Windows - will challenge you to save or discard your changes. You may have a good reason to choose your operating system and application software, but made-up stories about others is not. It will not *abort*, but the next time Word, for instance, opens you will definitely be prompted to check whether you want to recover the last doc(s) you were working on, even if you carefully saved the doc(s) before ending your last session. Try it and see. Microsoft Office and LibreOffice function fairly similarly from this viewpoint, and it does help to prevent data loss when crashes or accidents happen. BTW, I am *not* getting into a Word versus Writer stand-off here... :-) -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Hi :) Both things happen. Windows sometimes makes a bit of a fuss about not shutting down when asked to. It prefers to find excuses and panicks about open documents. If you did have an open document then it will often tend to have a problem and want you to recover it even if you dealt with those error pop-ups neatly during shut-down. Neither thing always happens but one or the other or both do happen fairly often. I once shut-down halfway through writing something in a GnuLinux, got a brief warning that i ignored and it quickly timed out and continued with the shut-down. Then i installed a completely different gnulinux over the top of my OS and opened the text-editor to find it reopened the unsaved text-file with only a few words missing. Sadly it was a very unimportant note and i've not repeated the experiment because it's too risky to do stuff like that. It shouldn't work so it was quite a surprise. Regards from Tom :) From: David Nelson li...@traduction.biz To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 10:41:33 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery Hi, On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: Are you suggesting that if you log out of or shut down Windows when you have some component part of Microsoft Office 2010 open then it will just abort and complain next time it is opened? Are you joking? Even if you have an unsaved document open, Word (or whatever) - being closed by Windows - will challenge you to save or discard your changes. You may have a good reason to choose your operating system and application software, but made-up stories about others is not. It will not *abort*, but the next time Word, for instance, opens you will definitely be prompted to check whether you want to recover the last doc(s) you were working on, even if you carefully saved the doc(s) before ending your last session. Try it and see. Microsoft Office and LibreOffice function fairly similarly from this viewpoint, and it does help to prevent data loss when crashes or accidents happen. BTW, I am *not* getting into a Word versus Writer stand-off here... :-) -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Hi, On Sat, 2011-07-30 at 12:34 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Both things happen. Windows sometimes makes a bit of a fuss about not shutting down when asked to. It prefers to find excuses and panicks about open documents. If you did have an open document then it will often tend to have a problem and want you to recover it even if you dealt with those error pop-ups neatly during shut-down. Neither thing always happens but one or the other or both do happen fairly often. I once shut-down halfway through writing something in a GnuLinux, got a brief warning that i ignored and it quickly timed out and continued with the shut-down. Then i installed a completely different gnulinux over the top of my OS and opened the text-editor to find it reopened the unsaved text-file with only a few words missing. Sadly it was a very unimportant note and i've not repeated the experiment because it's too risky to do stuff like that. It shouldn't work so it was quite a surprise. Regards from Tom :) From: David Nelson li...@traduction.biz To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 30 July, 2011 10:41:33 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery Hi, On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote: Are you suggesting that if you log out of or shut down Windows when you have some component part of Microsoft Office 2010 open then it will just abort and complain next time it is opened? Are you joking? Even if you have an unsaved document open, Word (or whatever) - being closed by Windows - will challenge you to save or discard your changes. You may have a good reason to choose your operating system and application software, but made-up stories about others is not. It will not *abort*, but the next time Word, for instance, opens you will definitely be prompted to check whether you want to recover the last doc(s) you were working on, even if you carefully saved the doc(s) before ending your last session. Try it and see. Microsoft Office and LibreOffice function fairly similarly from this viewpoint, and it does help to prevent data loss when crashes or accidents happen. BTW, I am *not* getting into a Word versus Writer stand-off here... :-) -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted I think the default is to assume there was a problem that caused an unexpected shutdown of any open documents. I think it is more when power goes off or the OS decides it must reboot than when a user forgot to shutdown the application correctly. It is very difficult for an application to know why it shutdown unexpectedly so good practice is to assume a problem occurred and any open files need to be recovered. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
At 07:16 29/07/2011 +0300, David Nelson wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Juan Carlos juanzeppe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have the same problem with L.O Writer 3.4.1 in Ubuntu 10.10. L.O. uses java 1.6.0_26. Also I downloaded the deb packages from the web page (not from PPA) Is there any news about this problem? It's not actually an erroneous behavior. It depends how you close the document(s). For example, if you work on a doc, save it, leave it open (and, therefore, leave LibreOffice open), and then exit Ubuntu perfectly normally then, the next time you open LibreOffice, you will be prompted to recover the docs as if some horrible disaster had happened, even though there has been no data loss or anything. If you don't want this behavior to happen then, before you exit Ubuntu, cleanly close your doc(s) and cleanly exit your LibreOffice, and THEN exit Ubuntu. The above was just an example of when it happens. It can happen in other circumstances, too. It's actually considered to be perfectly normal AFAIK. Microsoft Office 2010, for instance, behaves in pretty much the same way. Are you suggesting that if you log out of or shut down Windows when you have some component part of Microsoft Office 2010 open then it will just abort and complain next time it is opened? Are you joking? Even if you have an unsaved document open, Word (or whatever) - being closed by Windows - will challenge you to save or discard your changes. You may have a good reason to choose your operating system and application software, but made-up stories about others is not. Brian Barker -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
I have the same problem with L.O Writer 3.4.1 in Ubuntu 10.10. L.O. uses java 1.6.0_26. Also I downloaded the deb packages from the web page (not from PPA) Is there any news about this problem? Another question, where is located the log file with the error reported by L.O.? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/QUESTION-Libreoffice-documents-constantly-need-recovery-tp2515584p3208186.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Hi Juan, On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Juan Carlos juanzeppe...@hotmail.com wrote: I have the same problem with L.O Writer 3.4.1 in Ubuntu 10.10. L.O. uses java 1.6.0_26. Also I downloaded the deb packages from the web page (not from PPA) Is there any news about this problem? It's not actually an erroneous behavior. It depends how you close the document(s). For example, if you work on a doc, save it, leave it open (and, therefore, leave LibreOffice open), and then exit Ubuntu perfectly normally then, the next time you open LibreOffice, you will be prompted to recover the docs as if some horrible disaster had happened, even though there has been no data loss or anything. If you don't want this behavior to happen then, before you exit Ubuntu, cleanly close your doc(s) and cleanly exit your LibreOffice, and THEN exit Ubuntu. The above was just an example of when it happens. It can happen in other circumstances, too. It's actually considered to be perfectly normal AFAIK. Microsoft Office 2010, for instance, behaves in pretty much the same way. It irritates me as well, but you'd have to file a feature request to ask for the behavior to be re-examined and possibly re-designed. HTH. Another question, where is located the log file with the error reported by L.O.? I can't remember off-hand. -- David Nelson -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
On 18/02/11 16:28, Simon Cropper wrote: On 17/02/11 18:52, Alexander Thurgood wrote: [snip] I see you're using JVM 1.6.0_20 (IcedTea), you might want to try updating to Java 1.6.0_22 to see if that resolves the difficulties. Alex, I have switched to Java 1.6.0_22 and that seems to have done the trick. Note I did not specifically choose this version, it is what LibreOffice 'chose' when installing from the PPA. When I went to Tools Options LibreOffice-Java, both versions were listed only the older one was actually selected. Apart from the obvious version change the older version is using java-6-openjdk whereas the newer version is java-6-sun-1.6.0.22 Hi All, [bump] This need to recover files is happening again, so the Java change made some difference but obviously not stopped it happening. In the last hour I have recovered ~6 times and all I have been doing is adding content to pages. -- Cheers Simon Simon Cropper Principal Consultant Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd PO Box 160, Sunshine, VIC W: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Le 18/02/11 06:28, Simon Cropper a écrit : Hi Simon, I have switched to Java 1.6.0_22 and that seems to have done the trick. Note I did not specifically choose this version, it is what LibreOffice 'chose' when installing from the PPA. My guess is that it effectively just chooses the first one it finds in the JAVA_HOME variable. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
On 02/18/2011 12:28 AM, Simon Cropper wrote: On 17/02/11 18:52, Alexander Thurgood wrote: [snip] I see you're using JVM 1.6.0_20 (IcedTea), you might want to try updating to Java 1.6.0_22 to see if that resolves the difficulties. Alex, I have switched to Java 1.6.0_22 and that seems to have done the trick. Note I did not specifically choose this version, it is what LibreOffice 'chose' when installing from the PPA. When I went to Tools Options LibreOffice-Java, both versions were listed only the older one was actually selected. Apart from the obvious version change the older version is using java-6-openjdk whereas the newer version is java-6-sun-1.6.0.22 I read somewhere an article that stated there were issues with Openjdk. Some issues were that it did not work like Sun's Java in some aspects that effect the software that need Java. It stated that until those issues are fixed, you should not use it for several software applications, including LibreOffice. I do not know what the Openjkd is doing for the Java user community, but for me if both are free, I will use Sun's Java for the near future. But, Sun's Java had big problems a few years ago, and the newest one at that time would not install correctly on my Windows machine, so maybe Openjdk will be a good thing in the future, but not now for LibreOffice on my systems. Of course, I do not like PPA installs and prefer not to use them. So I am a little biased about the subject. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
On 02/17/2011 09:28 PM, Simon Cropper wrote: On 17/02/11 18:52, Alexander Thurgood wrote: [snip] I see you're using JVM 1.6.0_20 (IcedTea), you might want to try updating to Java 1.6.0_22 to see if that resolves the difficulties. Alex, I have switched to Java 1.6.0_22 and that seems to have done the trick. Note I did not specifically choose this version, it is what LibreOffice 'chose' when installing from the PPA. When I went to Tools Options LibreOffice-Java, both versions were listed only the older one was actually selected. Apart from the obvious version change the older version is using java-6-openjdk whereas the newer version is java-6-sun-1.6.0.22 Please file a bug report, and or join one that may have already been filed. You can file/check here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice There appears to be one already filed by KAMI on openjdk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/710641 but I can't seem to figure out how to link that to the PPA issues. Launchpad only allows it to be linked to the upstream: https://launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/trunk So, I'd file a new bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice and mention 710641. That way a dev can link the two together. Also add your log/comments to 710641. Also mention that you are using the ppa version include system details: $ lsb_release -a $ cat /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/versionrc $ apt-cache policy libreoffice -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Am 18.02.2011 16:27, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 18/02/11 13:55, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote: I read somewhere an article that stated there were issues with Openjdk. Interestingly I'm using LO 3.3 (direct from LO not via ppa) and the OpenJDK 6 6b20-1.9.5 that comes with Ubuntu 10.04 and seem to have no problems with it... Any database built on Java becomes extremely slow with open jdk. I could not use any medium sized HSQLDB nor H2 database. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: QUESTION: Libreoffice documents constantly need recovery
Le 17/02/11 05:38, Simon Cropper a écrit : Hi Simon, I am regularly getting a dialog box stating that one of the LibreOffice Documents I am working on needs to be recovered. I see you're using JVM 1.6.0_20 (IcedTea), you might want to try updating to Java 1.6.0_22 to see if that resolves the difficulties. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***