Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Relationships in Base
Hi :) +1 I tend to call them apps most of the time but modules when i am being pedantic. When talking to Windows users i sometimes call them programs as tho they were independent of each other. It depends on how computer-savvy the person i'm talking to is. Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 28/2/12, Dan Lewis wrote: From: Dan Lewis Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Relationships in Base To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 28 February, 2012, 11:46 Tue, 2012-02-28 at 02:44 -0800, gerbreown wrote: > See my previous post on how I solved the problem. > > You suggested that I view Chpt 8 in the Getting Started Guide. Have done > that. > Question: Why is there NOT a separate guide for Base like there is for the > others, ie Writer,Calc,etc? > Question2: What are the parts of LO, ie Writer,Base,Calc called? > Applications, modules or what? > > Thanks 1) Very few people in the world are willing to take the time to write the Base Guide. There are many more people who have worked on the other user guides. 2) I'm not sure that there is a consensus for the answer to this question. When speaking of the parts of LO software, modules have been used. But when speaking of the the functions of the software, components have been use. For example, Writer is the word processing component. Perhaps someone else knows the answer to this one. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Relationships in Base
Tue, 2012-02-28 at 02:44 -0800, gerbreown wrote: > See my previous post on how I solved the problem. > > You suggested that I view Chpt 8 in the Getting Started Guide. Have done > that. > Question: Why is there NOT a separate guide for Base like there is for the > others, ie Writer,Calc,etc? > Question2: What are the parts of LO, ie Writer,Base,Calc called? > Applications, modules or what? > > Thanks 1) Very few people in the world are willing to take the time to write the Base Guide. There are many more people who have worked on the other user guides. 2) I'm not sure that there is a consensus for the answer to this question. When speaking of the parts of LO software, modules have been used. But when speaking of the the functions of the software, components have been use. For example, Writer is the word processing component. Perhaps someone else knows the answer to this one. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Relationships in Base
Hi :) The separate Base Guide is being worked on but there is only about 1 person working on it with occasional help from 1 other person who does the proof-reading. You can see some of the draft chaters at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Guide Sorry this is still not particularly help Apols and regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Relationships-in-Base-tp3780236p3783728.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Relationships in Base
See my previous post on how I solved the problem. You suggested that I view Chpt 8 in the Getting Started Guide. Have done that. Question: Why is there NOT a separate guide for Base like there is for the others, ie Writer,Calc,etc? Question2: What are the parts of LO, ie Writer,Base,Calc called? Applications, modules or what? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Relationships-in-Base-tp3780236p3783630.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Relationships in Base
On Mon, 2012-02-27 at 05:39 -0800, gerbreown wrote: > I used the Tools > Relationships and dragged/drug the field in one table to > the matching field in the other table, just like in MS Access. > > The second table was done the same way. > > I now have a lot of different tables with relationships between them. When > I create the forms for data entry to these various tables it causes the same > error because of the deleted table. I had created another table and set up > the relationships for it and when I kept getting the error, I renamed the > new table to the old table that had been deleted but it still didn't work. > > The problem seems to be with the SYS_FK_xxx tables that didn't get deleted > when I deleted the table. Do you know where these tables are located and > how they can be manually deleted/edited? > > Thanks > > -- Yes, I know where the table is located. First step is to make a copy of your database. Then rename it so that its extension is changed from x.odb to x.zip. Open x.zip with an archive manager (Winzip or 7zip are two that will do this). This will produce several folders and three files. Double click the database folder to open it. Then open the script file. The relationship can be deleted there. After making your changes, you zip all the files together and rename the database file from x.zip to x.odb. WARNING!! Unless you are well versed in extracting files from a zipped format or adding them to it, this is not something that you should be doing. Here is a work around to try. Open the database, x.odb. Then from its main database window, create a new database, y.odb. Copy and paste the tables from x.odb to y.odb. Define the relationships that you want, and recreate your forms. Suggestion: Download Getting Started with Base (one of the chapters in the Getting Started Guide). It might be a refresher on the differences between Access and Base (there are some differences). Also, please study the section on how to set and modify relationships using Base. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Relationships in Base
It looks like that when I renamed my new table to the old table the data got dropped. I am using combo-boxes and they showed the data so don't know why I was able to see the data. Maybe it was just the name and not the PK that was left in the table. But after reading your reply I looked at the table and it was empty. I dropped the new table and then recreated it and entered two records and now my form are working as they should. I find that when having problems just being able to talk about them they get solved by getting another perspective on them. Thanks for your help. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Relationships-in-Base-tp3780236p3780822.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Relationships in Base
Am 27.02.2012 11:36, gerbreown wrote: I have just started using LO Base 3.4.4. I created 2 tables with a relationship between them. I then deleted one of the tables and created another one with a relationship to the first. When I try to add records to the table is gives me the following error message: "SQL Status: 23000 Error code: -177 Integrity constraint violation - no parent SYS_FK_110 table: Patient Old in statement [INSERT INTO "Pharm Rcpt" ( "pr_Cost","pr_Date","pr_Doctor","pr_Med","pr_Patient","pr_Pharm","pr_Qty") VALUES ( ?,?,?,?,?,?,?)]" It looks like the relationship did not get deleted when the table was deleted. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Relationships-in-Base-tp3780236p3780236.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. You never define a relationship in Base. You always do that in a database software even when you are working with the built-in database engine (status bar reads: "embedded HSQLDB"), this "integrated" database behaves exactly like any external database such as MySQL and many others. The self explaining error message comes from that database software and it says that you try to enter a patient-ID that has no counterpart in the patient table's primary key. Base can help you to avoid all integrity constraint errors by means of subforms and list boxes which are the 2 key elements to edit relational data in Base forms. [Example] Relations reflected by list boxes in forms: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=40444 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Relationships in Base
I used the Tools > Relationships and dragged/drug the field in one table to the matching field in the other table, just like in MS Access. The second table was done the same way. I now have a lot of different tables with relationships between them. When I create the forms for data entry to these various tables it causes the same error because of the deleted table. I had created another table and set up the relationships for it and when I kept getting the error, I renamed the new table to the old table that had been deleted but it still didn't work. The problem seems to be with the SYS_FK_xxx tables that didn't get deleted when I deleted the table. Do you know where these tables are located and how they can be manually deleted/edited? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Relationships-in-Base-tp3780236p3780720.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Relationships in Base
I just created another form and when I try to enter data I get the following error message: "Integrity constraint violation - no parent SYS_FK_81 table" Does anyone know where these SYS*** tables are and how they can be deleted??? Thanks -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Relationships-in-Base-tp3780236p3780585.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
