Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2011-03-01 8:50 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote: >> I tried playing with that in the "new" yahoo email with an id I rarely >> use, and it was a hopeless mess - the only kind of quoting I could get >> it to do is the same as what Tom uses - blecch! > > Yes, but as was explained in that thread, you must switch to the > 'Classic' interface to get quoting working properly... > Gee, Charles, that's a lot of work! >> Real email client - yeah. Gmail - double yeah! > > GMail - barf... > To each his own. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
On 2011-03-01 8:50 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote: > I tried playing with that in the "new" yahoo email with an id I rarely > use, and it was a hopeless mess - the only kind of quoting I could get > it to do is the same as what Tom uses - blecch! Yes, but as was explained in that thread, you must switch to the 'Classic' interface to get quoting working properly... > Real email client - yeah. Gmail - double yeah! GMail - barf... -- Best regards, Charles -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2011/03/01 1:40 PM MR Zen Wiz wrote: : >> Yahoo email screwed up >> their quoting mechanism beyond all hope, and some people cling to >> using Yahoo email beyond all reason. > > And I posted how to set up Yahoo Mail so it quotes properly. It is better to > use a real email client though. Or switch to gmail. Or both. > I tried playing with that in the "new" yahoo email with an id I rarely use, and it was a hopeless mess - the only kind of quoting I could get it to do is the same as what Tom uses - blecch! Real email client - yeah. Gmail - double yeah! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
On 2011/03/01 1:40 PM MR Zen Wiz wrote: If you have been following this list for a few weeks, you might realize that this plea falls on deaf ears. One can always hope. Yahoo email screwed up their quoting mechanism beyond all hope, and some people cling to using Yahoo email beyond all reason. And I posted how to set up Yahoo Mail so it quotes properly. It is better to use a real email client though. Or switch to gmail. Or both. Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2011/02/28 5:13 PM Tom Davies wrote: >> ___ >> From: Larry Gusaas >> To: users@libreoffice.org >> Sent: Mon, 28 February, 2011 20:13:40 >> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems >> to >> produce no response >> >> On 2011/02/28 12:47 PM Marc Grober wrote: >>> >>> Nope, tried all those variations - two real options; a) you invoke the >>> package which results in TBird coming forward, but no envelope, or b) >>> you invoke the binary, in which case you get an error message no matter >>> the flags indicatin that there is already a copy running. OSX does not >>> have a shell file I believe (at least not a thunderbird.sh like unix.) >> >> There is a long standing bug report on this for Thunderbird. It is now >> marked as >> "Resolved Fixed" but doesn't seem to be integrated into current version of >> Thunderbird. (or not actually fixed) See: >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287345 >> >> Larry >> >> >> Hi :) >> It looks as though there are still 2 more steps. >> 1. The fix/patch needs to be beta tested or QA have to "Verify" it. There >> might >> be a way for you to be one of the beta testers but i don't know how. >> 2. The fix/patch needs to be released. >> >> Regards from >> Tom :) > > Please fix your quote attribution. Everything I previously wrote appears to > be attributed to you. If I hadn't included my name in my previous post it > would be easy to assume you wrote it. > If you have been following this list for a few weeks, you might realize that this plea falls on deaf ears. Yahoo email screwed up their quoting mechanism beyond all hope, and some people cling to using Yahoo email beyond all reason. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
On 2011/02/28 5:13 PM Tom Davies wrote: ___ From: Larry Gusaas To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 28 February, 2011 20:13:40 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response On 2011/02/28 12:47 PM Marc Grober wrote: Nope, tried all those variations - two real options; a) you invoke the package which results in TBird coming forward, but no envelope, or b) you invoke the binary, in which case you get an error message no matter the flags indicatin that there is already a copy running. OSX does not have a shell file I believe (at least not a thunderbird.sh like unix.) There is a long standing bug report on this for Thunderbird. It is now marked as "Resolved Fixed" but doesn't seem to be integrated into current version of Thunderbird. (or not actually fixed) See: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287345 Larry Hi :) It looks as though there are still 2 more steps. 1. The fix/patch needs to be beta tested or QA have to "Verify" it. There might be a way for you to be one of the beta testers but i don't know how. 2. The fix/patch needs to be released. Regards from Tom :) Please fix your quote attribution. Everything I previously wrote appears to be attributed to you. If I hadn't included my name in my previous post it would be easy to assume you wrote it. Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
On 2/28/11 2:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > > > > > > > From: Larry Gusaas > To: users@libreoffice.org > Sent: Mon, 28 February, 2011 20:13:40 > Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to > produce no response > > On 2011/02/28 12:47 PM Marc Grober wrote: >> Nope, tried all those variations - two real options; a) you invoke the >> package which results in TBird coming forward, but no envelope, or b) >> you invoke the binary, in which case you get an error message no matter >> the flags indicatin that there is already a copy running. OSX does not >> have a shell file I believe (at least not a thunderbird.sh like unix.) > There is a long standing bug report on this for Thunderbird. It is now marked > as > "Resolved Fixed" but doesn't seem to be integrated into current version of > Thunderbird. (or not actually fixed) See: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287345 > > Larry > > > Hi :) > It looks as though there are still 2 more steps. > 1. The fix/patch needs to be beta tested or QA have to "Verify" it. There > might > be a way for you to be one of the beta testers but i don't know how. > 2. The fix/patch needs to be released. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > The address listed for QA for that bug bounces & the assignee is on vacation til next week. The patch that was developed is not targeted until TB 3.3 and it was a bit unclear from the discussion as to what version of the patch they finally decided upon and whether the patched fully resolved the issues (as there were a couple of folk who indicated that it did NOT resolve all their problems.) However, the target for this patch was 3.3a1 and cut off for 3.3.a2 is come and gone. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
Le 28/02/11 19:34, Marc Grober a écrit : Hi Marc, > There may in fact be a command line option for invoking a Tbird envelope > from inside the package without invoking a new instance of Tbird - seems > to me I had to address something like that on aix quite a few years ago. > Unfortunately I tried > /Applications/Thunderbird.app/Contents/MacOS/thunderbird-bin -silent > -compose > and that did not work (resulted in the behavior you mention) and adding > quotes results in LO not being able to find an e-mail app. Yes, I couldn't get it to work with any of the CLI parameters, so gave up. I now see from Larry's response that this is a longstanding issue with TB. Oh well. I personally, don't use send as e-mail much, but I can imagine one or two use cases where it would be really handy for me. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
From: Larry Gusaas To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 28 February, 2011 20:13:40 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response On 2011/02/28 12:47 PM Marc Grober wrote: > Nope, tried all those variations - two real options; a) you invoke the > package which results in TBird coming forward, but no envelope, or b) > you invoke the binary, in which case you get an error message no matter > the flags indicatin that there is already a copy running. OSX does not > have a shell file I believe (at least not a thunderbird.sh like unix.) There is a long standing bug report on this for Thunderbird. It is now marked as "Resolved Fixed" but doesn't seem to be integrated into current version of Thunderbird. (or not actually fixed) See: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287345 Larry Hi :) It looks as though there are still 2 more steps. 1. The fix/patch needs to be beta tested or QA have to "Verify" it. There might be a way for you to be one of the beta testers but i don't know how. 2. The fix/patch needs to be released. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
On 2/28/11 11:13 AM, Larry Gusaas wrote: > On 2011/02/28 12:47 PM Marc Grober wrote: >> Nope, tried all those variations - two real options; a) you invoke the >> package which results in TBird coming forward, but no envelope, or b) >> you invoke the binary, in which case you get an error message no matter >> the flags indicatin that there is already a copy running. OSX does not >> have a shell file I believe (at least not a thunderbird.sh like unix.) > There is a long standing bug report on this for Thunderbird. It is now > marked as "Resolved Fixed" but doesn't seem to be integrated into > current version of Thunderbird. (or not actually fixed) See: > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287345 > > Larry @Larry OK - I posted a comment on that bug and referenced the similar POWERPC bug that was mentioned there as well as the current issue with acrobat It seems like they marked it resolved because the underlying open -a command worked, but as noted by others in October of last year, this does not always work, and I could get an envelope to come up in some cases from the command line, but never with an attachment I don;t know whether this is a matter of passing the correct location or something else, but it is clearly a continuing problem that effects a broad range of software. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
On 2011/02/28 12:47 PM Marc Grober wrote: Nope, tried all those variations - two real options; a) you invoke the package which results in TBird coming forward, but no envelope, or b) you invoke the binary, in which case you get an error message no matter the flags indicatin that there is already a copy running. OSX does not have a shell file I believe (at least not a thunderbird.sh like unix.) There is a long standing bug report on this for Thunderbird. It is now marked as "Resolved Fixed" but doesn't seem to be integrated into current version of Thunderbird. (or not actually fixed) See: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287345 Larry -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - Edgard Varese -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
On 2/28/11 9:03 AM, NoOp wrote: > On 02/28/2011 01:32 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: >> Le 28/02/11 05:39, Marc Grober a écrit : >> >> Hi Marc, >> >>> On OSX having installed 3.3.1 choosing Send Document or other send >>> options produces no response and no log entries. Thunderbird was >>> selected from Internet options. >>> >> >> Yes, this doesn't quite work as intended...or at least, not as its >> alleged to work on other platforms. From what I understand, you can not >> simply point to the TB application bundle in your list of applications, >> but have to drill down through the bundle's contents to point to the >> thunderbird executable binary. > > If TB on OSX (unix) is like linux, you'd do the full path the the > thunderbird shell file rather than the thunderbird-bin. > >> >> You also have to make sure when you want to send the document via e-mail >> that TB is not already running, otherwise you will get an error message, >> and nothing will happen. > > Should work (I think - I do not have OSX) if you use the shell file > rather than the bin. If not, you might try '-compose': > > //thunderbird -compose @NoOp Nope, tried all those variations - two real options; a) you invoke the package which results in TBird coming forward, but no envelope, or b) you invoke the binary, in which case you get an error message no matter the flags indicatin that there is already a copy running. OSX does not have a shell file I believe (at least not a thunderbird.sh like unix.) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
On 2/28/11 12:32 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 28/02/11 05:39, Marc Grober a écrit : > > Hi Marc, > >> On OSX having installed 3.3.1 choosing Send Document or other send >> options produces no response and no log entries. Thunderbird was >> selected from Internet options. >> > > Yes, this doesn't quite work as intended...or at least, not as its > alleged to work on other platforms. From what I understand, you can not > simply point to the TB application bundle in your list of applications, > but have to drill down through the bundle's contents to point to the > thunderbird executable binary. > > You also have to make sure when you want to send the document via e-mail > that TB is not already running, otherwise you will get an error message, > and nothing will happen. > > > Alex > > @Alex, I just determined that Acrobat has the same issue. > The SendMail doesn't know how to talk to your default mail client. > Please select a different mail application to use. Adobe points the finger at Mozilla, and mozilla reciprocates. Moreover, setting thunderbird as your default mail client on OSX from MacMail will NOT result in TBird being regarded as the default mail client by some applications, lol. There may in fact be a command line option for invoking a Tbird envelope from inside the package without invoking a new instance of Tbird - seems to me I had to address something like that on aix quite a few years ago. Unfortunately I tried /Applications/Thunderbird.app/Contents/MacOS/thunderbird-bin -silent -compose and that did not work (resulted in the behavior you mention) and adding quotes results in LO not being able to find an e-mail app. Went back to look at my ancient version of NeoOffice and that won't even start now Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
On 02/28/2011 01:32 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 28/02/11 05:39, Marc Grober a écrit : > > Hi Marc, > >> On OSX having installed 3.3.1 choosing Send Document or other send >> options produces no response and no log entries. Thunderbird was >> selected from Internet options. >> > > Yes, this doesn't quite work as intended...or at least, not as its > alleged to work on other platforms. From what I understand, you can not > simply point to the TB application bundle in your list of applications, > but have to drill down through the bundle's contents to point to the > thunderbird executable binary. If TB on OSX (unix) is like linux, you'd do the full path the the thunderbird shell file rather than the thunderbird-bin. > > You also have to make sure when you want to send the document via e-mail > that TB is not already running, otherwise you will get an error message, > and nothing will happen. Should work (I think - I do not have OSX) if you use the shell file rather than the bin. If not, you might try '-compose': //thunderbird -compose -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
Il 28/02/2011 10:32, Alexander Thurgood ha scritto: Le 28/02/11 05:39, Marc Grober a écrit : Hi Marc, On OSX having installed 3.3.1 choosing Send Document or other send options produces no response and no log entries. Thunderbird was selected from Internet options. Yes, this doesn't quite work as intended...or at least, not as its alleged to work on other platforms. From what I understand, you can not simply point to the TB application bundle in your list of applications, but have to drill down through the bundle's contents to point to the thunderbird executable binary. You also have to make sure when you want to send the document via e-mail that TB is not already running, otherwise you will get an error message, and nothing will happen. Alex I think the integration of the NeoOffice team, with its know how, native interface library use, ... in the MacOS X Libò team is as urgent as useful. With big advantages on both sides: NeoOffice works and releases, "in nomine" LibreOffice, a functional updated (!) office suite, LibreOffice Community has a MacOS X team with a big quality experience, as well as just I said above. Have a nice day, Carlo -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-users] Re: Send document from LO 3.3.1 on OSX seems to produce no response
Le 28/02/11 05:39, Marc Grober a écrit : Hi Marc, > On OSX having installed 3.3.1 choosing Send Document or other send > options produces no response and no log entries. Thunderbird was > selected from Internet options. > Yes, this doesn't quite work as intended...or at least, not as its alleged to work on other platforms. From what I understand, you can not simply point to the TB application bundle in your list of applications, but have to drill down through the bundle's contents to point to the thunderbird executable binary. You also have to make sure when you want to send the document via e-mail that TB is not already running, otherwise you will get an error message, and nothing will happen. Alex -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
