[libreoffice-users] Re: Which RC version?

2011-11-11 Thread Pedro

Tom wrote:
> 
> You can always post it as a bug-report.  There is no harm in that.  People
> don't need permission from the Users List in order to post bug-reports. 
> Just post it.  
> 
> I think the guide suggests asking the Users List or other places first
> just in case there is something we can do to help fix a problem.  As a
> user you might find something that appears horrendous but is actually
> quite trivial to fix.  
> 
> I think you are possibly taking your first steps into being a dev.  It is
> good to have ideas and argue them out because it often leads to either
> innovation or a deeper understanding of why things are the way they are. 
> Either way it's a win.

I'm well aware of that, Tom ;)
You are preaching to the choir...
I know I can add Feature Requests to the Bug Tracker (which is absurd by
itself... all sourceforge projects have separate trackers...), but I think
my time is better used in helping LibreOffice users :)


Tom wrote:
> 
> Sadly most of us on this list have no idea about what issues have led devs
> to do things the way they do.
> 

And that is the biggest problem in this community: the separation between
the users and the devs.


Tom wrote:
> 
>  Also if you just suddenly pop-up on the devs list and demand they change
> all their working practices they wont take it too kindly and may even
> become hostile.

I'm also aware of that. That is why I unsubscribed from the Dev list. They
left it pretty clear that the Dev list is for Devs.

Regards,
Pedro

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Which RC version?

2011-11-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
You can always post it as a bug-report.  There is no harm in that.  People 
don't need permission from the Users List in order to post bug-reports.  Just 
post it.  

I think the guide suggests asking the Users List or other places first just in 
case there is something we can do to help fix a problem.  As a user you might 
find something that appears horrendous but is actually quite trivial to fix.  

I think you are possibly taking your first steps into being a dev.  It is good 
to have ideas and argue them out because it often leads to either innovation or 
a deeper understanding of why things are the way they are.  Either way it's a 
win.  

Sadly most of us on this list have no idea about what issues have led devs to 
do things the way they do.  Also if you just suddenly pop-up on the devs list 
and demand they change all their working practices they wont take it too kindly 
and may even become hostile.  A bug-report might be a way of quietly 
introducing the idea to them.

Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Fri, 11/11/11, Pedro  wrote:

From: Pedro 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Which RC version?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 11 November, 2011, 11:19


Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
> 
> Am I wrong if I guess you want to see RC1 or RC2 in the name of the
> version ?
> I think it is not a good idea because the stable version is bit-for-bit 
> identical to RC2. So having RC2 in the version name would be confusing 
> for the stable version.
> 

I'm aware of that. That is why I suggested to modify the name of the
installer instead to include the build number e.g.
LibO_3.4.4rc1_Build401_Win_x86_install_multi.exe

Also renaming the installation folder using the same logic to

LibreOffice 3.4 (Build 402) Installation Files

instead of the current

LibreOffice 3.4 (4eb10e5c) Installation Files

would help a lot, inclusively to know which old installation folders to
delete and to keep. E.g. I might want to keep build 400 which worked for me
(in case I need to go back) but not 401 which had a bad bug...

Can this be put to consideration? It's not such an odd request and it
doesn't involve any code changes...

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Which RC version?

2011-11-11 Thread Pedro

Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
> 
> Am I wrong if I guess you want to see RC1 or RC2 in the name of the
> version ?
> I think it is not a good idea because the stable version is bit-for-bit 
> identical to RC2. So having RC2 in the version name would be confusing 
> for the stable version.
> 

I'm aware of that. That is why I suggested to modify the name of the
installer instead to include the build number e.g.
LibO_3.4.4rc1_Build401_Win_x86_install_multi.exe

Also renaming the installation folder using the same logic to

LibreOffice 3.4 (Build 402) Installation Files

instead of the current

LibreOffice 3.4 (4eb10e5c) Installation Files

would help a lot, inclusively to know which old installation folders to
delete and to keep. E.g. I might want to keep build 400 which worked for me
(in case I need to go back) but not 401 which had a bad bug...

Can this be put to consideration? It's not such an odd request and it
doesn't involve any code changes...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Which RC version?

2011-11-11 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure

Hi,

Le 10/11/2011 22:31, Pedro a écrit :


Manfred J. Krause wrote:


That's RC1.

RC2 (release) will show:
LibreOffice 3.4.4
OOO340m1 (Build:402).



Thanks. I just found that out because I installed the Final version which is
the same as RC2 i.e. Build 402

But it wouldn't kill the Devs if they used a naming system that made sense
to common users, would it?


Am I wrong if I guess you want to see RC1 or RC2 in the name of the 
version ?
I think it is not a good idea because the stable version is bit-for-bit 
identical to RC2. So having RC2 in the version name would be confusing 
for the stable version.


Best regards
JBF

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Which RC version?

2011-11-10 Thread Pedro

Manfred J. Krause wrote:
> 
> That's RC1.
> 
> RC2 (release) will show:
> LibreOffice 3.4.4
> OOO340m1 (Build:402).
> 

Thanks. I just found that out because I installed the Final version which is
the same as RC2 i.e. Build 402

But it wouldn't kill the Devs if they used a naming system that made sense
to common users, would it?

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