[libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
How do I scan a text document and save it and then later open it and edit it? Kenneth Groninga -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
That's going to be in the scanner software, which isn't part of LibreOffice. Further the best (free) solution depends on what operating system you are using. I looked and there isn't anything in LibreOffice Plugins, but there is an OCR helper listed in OpenOffice extensions. I don't know anything about it, but the last time I tried the extensions in OpenOffice didn't work out for me. There was a time (maybe OpenOffice 2.3?) where Dragon (Naturally Speaking) had an extension that did voice recognition and tied into scanning software I had with a (now 20 years ago) epson all-in-one. But even then the OCR (turn image into text) was almost certainly provided by the printer/scanner software, and not the plugin. What you've described (in the other email) suggests that after an upgrade, the scanner is using a windows provided driver, and not the drive that came with the scanner. You should seek that drive and the related software that does OCR from the manufacturer. It's likely it is no longer supported. I would NOT download drivers from anywhere except the manufacturer sight. The real drivers are out there, but so are 1000 other malware fakes for every real driver. telling them apart basically requires sacrificing a test computer until you find the real one. This is assuming you're on windows. On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 11:57 AM Kenneth Groninga < winema...@eaglecitywinery.com> wrote: > How do I scan a text document and save it and then later open it and edit > it? > > Kenneth Groninga > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
On 25/10/2023 18:55, Kenneth Groninga wrote: How do I scan a text document and save it and then later open it and edit it? Kenneth Groninga You need a software application that can do optical character recognition to transform the scanned te4xt into editable text. Do a search for OCR software for whatever platform you're using. hth Philip -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
If it is a short document, it is easy to use your phone with an app to convert the text. Steve On 26/10/2023 05:55, Kenneth Groninga wrote: How do I scan a text document and save it and then later open it and edit it? Kenneth Groninga -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
My standard scanning on a Brother all-in-one does OCR. You’ll get the text, but not the formatting. > Op 25 okt. 2023, om 18:55 heeft Kenneth Groninga > het volgende geschreven: > > How do I scan a text document and save it and then later open it and edit > it? > > Kenneth Groninga > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
What you are doing is not normal. Why scan it? Why not just open the text file in anything and edit it? If you want to go back and forth between text and image file, you can. On Linux I use tesseract to do ocr. Mike On 10/26/23 10:05, users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote: How do I scan a text document and save it and then later open it and edit it? Kenneth Groninga -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
On 10/29/23 18:41, Kenneth Groninga wrote: There are 2 instances. I have an old written document that I want to edit.. So I scan it and file it in My Documents . Then I open it in Libre Office Writer to edit it and I can not edit the document. That is normal. If scanning turns the documents into an image file, it cannot be edited by Writer or Draw. I mean you can make marks on the document, but you cannot change the text. Also I type a document in Libre Office Writer and save it in My Documents. Later I want to edit it so I open it in Libre Office Writer and again I can not edit it. Why can I not edit these documents? That is not normal. You should be able to edit it. So when you type something to edit it, does anything happen? Can you get a blinking cursor? Kenneth Groninga On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 3:58 PM Mike Flannigan wrote: What you are doing is not normal. Why scan it? Why not just open the text file in anything and edit it? If you want to go back and forth between text and image file, you can. On Linux I use tesseract to do ocr. Mike On 10/26/23 10:05, users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote: How do I scan a text document and save it and then later open it and edit it? Kenneth Groninga -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
How was the document created in LibreOffice saved? It you are in the habit of storing all your documents as PDF files then this would be expected. ~~R On 10/29/23 16:43, Mike Flannigan wrote: On 10/29/23 18:41, Kenneth Groninga wrote: There are 2 instances. I have an old written document that I want to edit.. So I scan it and file it in My Documents . Then I open it in Libre Office Writer to edit it and I can not edit the document. That is normal. If scanning turns the documents into an image file, it cannot be edited by Writer or Draw. I mean you can make marks on the document, but you cannot change the text. Also I type a document in Libre Office Writer and save it in My Documents. Later I want to edit it so I open it in Libre Office Writer and again I can not edit it. Why can I not edit these documents? That is not normal. You should be able to edit it. So when you type something to edit it, does anything happen? Can you get a blinking cursor? Kenneth Groninga On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 3:58 PM Mike Flannigan wrote: What you are doing is not normal. Why scan it? Why not just open the text file in anything and edit it? If you want to go back and forth between text and image file, you can. On Linux I use tesseract to do ocr. Mike On 10/26/23 10:05, users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote: How do I scan a text document and save it and then later open it and edit it? Kenneth Groninga -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
On 10/29/23 20:12, Kenneth Groninga wrote: When I scan a document how can I save if as a text rather tban an image? By using OCR to turn it into text. Often the OCR is built-in to the scanning software. Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
If you have a paper document you want to turn into text, and your scanner doesn't give you text output as an option... you can download Google Lens and point your phone at the document and copy each page that way. But the copied text is in your phone, so you'll have to email it to a desktop or use another editor like google docs or calibra office to paste into, then open that with libreoffice. But saving files as PDF isn't good. PDF is a final output, used to make it hard for other people to edit the file. That's the whole point of PDF, and why it's used so commonly for finished work. use ODT format for libreoffice... you'll save yourself a lot of headache. but when you send it, you do need to output it to another form, PDF is best, but you can use .doc or .docx . but MS formats aren't intended to be the working format for libreoffice, but a way to exchange information to non-informed users. On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 7:33 PM Mike Flannigan wrote: > > > On 10/29/23 20:12, Kenneth Groninga wrote: > > When I scan a document how can I save if as a text rather tban an image? > > > > By using OCR to turn it into text. Often the > OCR is built-in to the scanning software. > > > Mike > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
And if you have an Iphone, Google Lens is built into the Google App, as far as I can tell. you want to find the 'text' mode. On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 7:40 PM Michael H wrote: > If you have a paper document you want to turn into text, and your scanner > doesn't give you text output as an option... you can download Google Lens > and point your phone at the document and copy each page that way. > > But the copied text is in your phone, so you'll have to email it to a > desktop or use another editor like google docs or calibra office to paste > into, then open that with libreoffice. But saving files as PDF isn't > good. PDF is a final output, used to make it hard for other people to edit > the file. That's the whole point of PDF, and why it's used so commonly for > finished work. use ODT format for libreoffice... you'll save yourself a lot > of headache. but when you send it, you do need to output it to another > form, PDF is best, but you can use .doc or .docx . but MS formats aren't > intended to be the working format for libreoffice, but a way to exchange > information to non-informed users. > > > > On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 7:33 PM Mike Flannigan wrote: > >> >> >> On 10/29/23 20:12, Kenneth Groninga wrote: >> > When I scan a document how can I save if as a text rather tban an image? >> > >> >> By using OCR to turn it into text. Often the >> OCR is built-in to the scanning software. >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
Converting a .pdf file to editable text is a bit like making live pigs out of sausage meat. On 10/29/23 18:40, Michael H wrote: If you have a paper document you want to turn into text, and your scanner doesn't give you text output as an option... you can download Google Lens and point your phone at the document and copy each page that way. But the copied text is in your phone, so you'll have to email it to a desktop or use another editor like google docs or calibra office to paste into, then open that with libreoffice. But saving files as PDF isn't good. PDF is a final output, used to make it hard for other people to edit the file. That's the whole point of PDF, and why it's used so commonly for finished work. use ODT format for libreoffice... you'll save yourself a lot of headache. but when you send it, you do need to output it to another form, PDF is best, but you can use .doc or .docx . but MS formats aren't intended to be the working format for libreoffice, but a way to exchange information to non-informed users. On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 7:33 PM Mike Flannigan wrote: On 10/29/23 20:12, Kenneth Groninga wrote: When I scan a document how can I save if as a text rather tban an image? By using OCR to turn it into text. Often the OCR is built-in to the scanning software. Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
If you already have a scanned image, you can convert it to text using OCR software like Tesseract-OCR, which has already been mentioned. It is free and open-source, and is available for Linux, MS Windows and Mac. gImageReader (https://github.com/manisandro/gImageReader) is a nice GUI for Tesseract. I would expect a scanner to give a better quality image, and thus better OCR, than a phone camera. - Robert From: Michael H Sent: October 29, 2023 20:40 To: Mike Flannigan Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org; Kenneth Groninga Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document If you have a paper document you want to turn into text, and your scanner doesn't give you text output as an option... you can download Google Lens and point your phone at the document and copy each page that way. But the copied text is in your phone, so you'll have to email it to a desktop or use another editor like google docs or calibra office to paste into, then open that with libreoffice. But saving files as PDF isn't good. PDF is a final output, used to make it hard for other people to edit the file. That's the whole point of PDF, and why it's used so commonly for finished work. use ODT format for libreoffice... you'll save yourself a lot of headache. but when you send it, you do need to output it to another form, PDF is best, but you can use .doc or .docx . but MS formats aren't intended to be the working format for libreoffice, but a way to exchange information to non-informed users. On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 7:33 PM Mike Flannigan wrote: > > > On 10/29/23 20:12, Kenneth Groninga wrote: > > When I scan a document how can I save if as a text rather tban an image? > > > > By using OCR to turn it into text. Often the > OCR is built-in to the scanning software. > > > Mike -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-users] Save and Edit Text document
On Sun, 29 Oct 2023 at 19:41, Michael H wrote: > PDF is a final output, used to make it hard for other people to edit > the file. That's the whole point of PDF, and why it's used so commonly for > finished work. I agree PDF is a final output, but disagree that 'the whole point of PDF' is to make it hard for other people to edit. Its primary point is to create an output which looks the same across OSes and various configurations of computer (e.g. fonts). It is loved by graphic artists for that reason: everyone will see the page exactly as intended by the artist. -- T. R. Valentine A rich heart may be under a poor coat. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
