Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
Hi :) WOW!! :D Top marks to the devs that were involved with this and many thanks to Petr for letting us know too. I think it would be good to publicise this a bit more widely. Surprisingly few people ever seem to read Readmes. it's a good place to start obviously. Perhaps someone could pass it on to the Marketing List to nominate it as an entry in the next announcement? I don't think there is a formal process for that yet but it might help the person that puts the announcements together. There's always a list of things that could go in but it's tricky to pick on the 1 or 2 'killer' features. Regards from Tom :) > > From: Petr Mladek >To: hc.stoellin...@aon.at >Cc: "users@global.libreoffice.org" >Sent: Friday, 2 August 2013, 11:37 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration > > >Heinrich Stoellinger píše v So 20. 07. 2013 v 17:26 +0200: >> Hello, >> I downloaded LO 4.1.0-RC3 yesterday. Looking at the files after tar -xvf ... >> I find that there still is no desktop-integration directory in the main >> installation tree of files. Is it meant to be like that? > >The "desktop-integration" directory has been removed in LO-4.1. It was >there from historical reasons: > > 1. There was different desktop integration for different RPM-based Linux >distributions. > They were not longer needed because Linux distros switched to the >"Freedesktop" > standard, so the freedestop-menus package should work on all RPM-based >distros. > > 2. The desktop integration packages for different Lo version conflicted. >This was solved > by versioning the package names, filenames, menu entries. So, you >could install > the desktop integration for LO 4.1 in parallel with the desktop >integration for LO 4.0 > >We removed the subdirectory to make it easier to install the package. >Unfortunately, >we forgot to update the installation instructions in the README file. It will >be fixed >in the 1st bugfix release, 4.1.1, see >https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67061 > > >Well, the is still one problem with files and directories ownership in the >.deb packages. >It might cause problems with the desktop integration. See >https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67388 > > > >Best Regards, >Petr > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
Heinrich Stoellinger píše v So 20. 07. 2013 v 17:26 +0200: > Hello, > I downloaded LO 4.1.0-RC3 yesterday. Looking at the files after tar -xvf ... > I find that there still is no desktop-integration directory in the main > installation tree of files. Is it meant to be like that? The "desktop-integration" directory has been removed in LO-4.1. It was there from historical reasons: 1. There was different desktop integration for different RPM-based Linux distributions. They were not longer needed because Linux distros switched to the "Freedesktop" standard, so the freedestop-menus package should work on all RPM-based distros. 2. The desktop integration packages for different Lo version conflicted. This was solved by versioning the package names, filenames, menu entries. So, you could install the desktop integration for LO 4.1 in parallel with the desktop integration for LO 4.0 We removed the subdirectory to make it easier to install the package. Unfortunately, we forgot to update the installation instructions in the README file. It will be fixed in the 1st bugfix release, 4.1.1, see https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67061 Well, the is still one problem with files and directories ownership in the .deb packages. It might cause problems with the desktop integration. See https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67388 Best Regards, Petr -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:13:45 +0200, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 07/27/2013 11:32 AM, Joel Madero wrote: On 07/27/2013 08:16 AM, sun shine wrote: On 27/07/13 15:36, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hi, As a "first installment"... - What goes wrong? Clicking on any of the icons for the various parts of LO doesn't cause anything to come up. Also, there is no "LibreOffice" icon for the complete package, only icons for the various parts... - Yes, I DID delete LO befor trying to install 4.1 (apt-get purge libreoffice*) - I know the aspect of the "desktop-integration" subdirectory existing in prior versions. What do you mean be "seamless ... installation routine"? I ran dpkg -i *deb in all of the three DEBS-directories in the correct sequence (but obviously no dpkg -i *deb within a desktop-integration subdirectory because it does not exist in LO 4.1). Is there anything in addition that I have to do? - How do I check the "menu edit" options? I have reverted back to 3.6.7 now, may uninstall that version completely and try to install 4.1. But - honestly - it is MUCH to hot here at the moment to do so and not to prefer going for a glass of beer... (smiley!) Regards Just a heads up - I didn't read the whole thread but I suspect this is the normal lack of desktop integration which others have brought up. This happens because of mixing the TDF package with the distro packages. You must completely purge your system of all libreoffice stuff if you are going from a distro build to a TDF build (the document foundation from libreoffice.org). If you install TDF package over distro package you hit snags. We are going to update release notes in the future to reflect this but in general I (and many others) recommend not upgrading until your distro packages LibreOffice into their repos OR from official PPA's as many don't now what completely purging means or know how to do it exactly and then run into these kind of problems. Best, Joel QA Volunteer Sorry, but I had to "purge" 4.0.3 before I installed 4.0.4. I run Ubuntu 12.04LTS and I think it uses 3.5.7 as its default install of LO. I have had to do the removal of the old version of LO throughout the 3.6.x line and for every 4.0.x version I have installed as well. So it does not "completely" involve the original version that the distro installs. Or at least for me. I seem to remember having to do the same with Mint and another Debian-based distro I tested before. Also, I do not install the PPA's for LO or most other package. I just stick with downloading the installs from the LO download page[s]. I tend to download about 90 files each time for the NA-DVD when each new version comes out. There are 7 less since 4.1.0 does not support Mac OSX PPC systems. - As for the heat, well we have a few days off that in New York State right this moment. Before that we were going record heat and high humidity. Also, in the EMT training I took in the late 80's to give me the "health credits I needed for college, the tell you to avoid alcohol during heat and cold. It might make you feel good but it make the heat and cold worse for you body. Some would tell me I am wrong, but it was in my text book[s]. I myself, because of my meds, feel the heat and cold much worse than many others in my building. Below 75 degrees I am really cold and above 80 I feel like it is in the high 90's or worse. Between the pain meds and the nerve damage, I just want to do nothing during the worst of the heat, even though I try and keep my place under 80 degrees with my air conditioner and fans. The there is the 120+ degree heat in the car on those days above 90 degrees outside. Takes 10 minutes to get my car cool enough to be able to drive. So we all tend to "shut down" as much as we can when the heat is in full force. Hi Joel, I don't remember EVER installing a distro package for LO but ALWAYS use the TDF-download site. Again, before trying to install 4.1 I did apt-get purge libreoffice* (as suggested somewhere on the www in order to "clear" the slate!). Also - maybe being Central European? - I have really settled on KDE. I have become accustomed to it, it performs quite well enough for me at V4.10 and I love it. There is the threat of having to migrate so much (such as PIM etc.) in case of changing to any other desktop environment. As I mentioned before, I have settled on using 3.6.7 for the time being. It works just fine for me. Even as an old IBM systems engineer I find that even though I love doing so I anyway fiddle quite enough with Linux. However - from my professional days - I have unfortunately carried over to retirement the infection called "versionitis". Obviously this causes this kind of problems... Regarding heat and beer: while I definitely acknoledge what you say about that - maybe, if you should ever make it to Salzburg, I can introduce you to the shady beergarden next to the monastery that has been brewin
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?
On 07/27/2013 11:32 AM, Joel Madero wrote: On 07/27/2013 08:16 AM, sun shine wrote: On 27/07/13 15:36, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hi, As a "first installment"... - What goes wrong? Clicking on any of the icons for the various parts of LO doesn't cause anything to come up. Also, there is no "LibreOffice" icon for the complete package, only icons for the various parts... - Yes, I DID delete LO befor trying to install 4.1 (apt-get purge libreoffice*) - I know the aspect of the "desktop-integration" subdirectory existing in prior versions. What do you mean be "seamless ... installation routine"? I ran dpkg -i *deb in all of the three DEBS-directories in the correct sequence (but obviously no dpkg -i *deb within a desktop-integration subdirectory because it does not exist in LO 4.1). Is there anything in addition that I have to do? - How do I check the "menu edit" options? I have reverted back to 3.6.7 now, may uninstall that version completely and try to install 4.1. But - honestly - it is MUCH to hot here at the moment to do so and not to prefer going for a glass of beer... (smiley!) Regards Just a heads up - I didn't read the whole thread but I suspect this is the normal lack of desktop integration which others have brought up. This happens because of mixing the TDF package with the distro packages. You must completely purge your system of all libreoffice stuff if you are going from a distro build to a TDF build (the document foundation from libreoffice.org). If you install TDF package over distro package you hit snags. We are going to update release notes in the future to reflect this but in general I (and many others) recommend not upgrading until your distro packages LibreOffice into their repos OR from official PPA's as many don't now what completely purging means or know how to do it exactly and then run into these kind of problems. Best, Joel QA Volunteer Sorry, but I had to "purge" 4.0.3 before I installed 4.0.4. I run Ubuntu 12.04LTS and I think it uses 3.5.7 as its default install of LO. I have had to do the removal of the old version of LO throughout the 3.6.x line and for every 4.0.x version I have installed as well. So it does not "completely" involve the original version that the distro installs. Or at least for me. I seem to remember having to do the same with Mint and another Debian-based distro I tested before. Also, I do not install the PPA's for LO or most other package. I just stick with downloading the installs from the LO download page[s]. I tend to download about 90 files each time for the NA-DVD when each new version comes out. There are 7 less since 4.1.0 does not support Mac OSX PPC systems. - As for the heat, well we have a few days off that in New York State right this moment. Before that we were going record heat and high humidity. Also, in the EMT training I took in the late 80's to give me the "health credits I needed for college, the tell you to avoid alcohol during heat and cold. It might make you feel good but it make the heat and cold worse for you body. Some would tell me I am wrong, but it was in my text book[s]. I myself, because of my meds, feel the heat and cold much worse than many others in my building. Below 75 degrees I am really cold and above 80 I feel like it is in the high 90's or worse. Between the pain meds and the nerve damage, I just want to do nothing during the worst of the heat, even though I try and keep my place under 80 degrees with my air conditioner and fans. The there is the 120+ degree heat in the car on those days above 90 degrees outside. Takes 10 minutes to get my car cool enough to be able to drive. So we all tend to "shut down" as much as we can when the heat is in full force. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?
On 07/27/2013 08:16 AM, sun shine wrote: On 27/07/13 15:36, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hi, As a "first installment"... - What goes wrong? Clicking on any of the icons for the various parts of LO doesn't cause anything to come up. Also, there is no "LibreOffice" icon for the complete package, only icons for the various parts... - Yes, I DID delete LO befor trying to install 4.1 (apt-get purge libreoffice*) - I know the aspect of the "desktop-integration" subdirectory existing in prior versions. What do you mean be "seamless ... installation routine"? I ran dpkg -i *deb in all of the three DEBS-directories in the correct sequence (but obviously no dpkg -i *deb within a desktop-integration subdirectory because it does not exist in LO 4.1). Is there anything in addition that I have to do? - How do I check the "menu edit" options? I have reverted back to 3.6.7 now, may uninstall that version completely and try to install 4.1. But - honestly - it is MUCH to hot here at the moment to do so and not to prefer going for a glass of beer... (smiley!) Regards Just a heads up - I didn't read the whole thread but I suspect this is the normal lack of desktop integration which others have brought up. This happens because of mixing the TDF package with the distro packages. You must completely purge your system of all libreoffice stuff if you are going from a distro build to a TDF build (the document foundation from libreoffice.org). If you install TDF package over distro package you hit snags. We are going to update release notes in the future to reflect this but in general I (and many others) recommend not upgrading until your distro packages LibreOffice into their repos OR from official PPA's as many don't now what completely purging means or know how to do it exactly and then run into these kind of problems. Best, Joel QA Volunteer -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?
On 27/07/13 15:36, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hi, As a "first installment"... - What goes wrong? Clicking on any of the icons for the various parts of LO doesn't cause anything to come up. Also, there is no "LibreOffice" icon for the complete package, only icons for the various parts... - Yes, I DID delete LO befor trying to install 4.1 (apt-get purge libreoffice*) - I know the aspect of the "desktop-integration" subdirectory existing in prior versions. What do you mean be "seamless ... installation routine"? I ran dpkg -i *deb in all of the three DEBS-directories in the correct sequence (but obviously no dpkg -i *deb within a desktop-integration subdirectory because it does not exist in LO 4.1). Is there anything in addition that I have to do? - How do I check the "menu edit" options? I have reverted back to 3.6.7 now, may uninstall that version completely and try to install 4.1. But - honestly - it is MUCH to hot here at the moment to do so and not to prefer going for a glass of beer... (smiley!) Regards On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:21:44 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 27/07/13 11:10, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, Not the rpm- but the deb-Version (32bit) on Debian-Wheezy-KDE 4.10. IT STILL DOES NOT WORK!!! Regards Heinrich Hello Heinrich Seems like you have been experiencing difficulty with this version for quite some time, IIRC? However, despite your frustration, can you say more precisely is not working. Just to review typical sticking points however, although I'm sure you've gone through these already: 1. Have you deleted your current LibO installation before installing 4.1? If you haven't, this can be done via the synaptic GUI, filtering installed packages, and selecting appropriate files for complete removal and then applying. 2. Did you run the latest release candidate, because the new release build has a seamless desktop-integration installation routine, whereas previous attempts to install always gave install errors. So if you're not using the latest, then you may stand a better chance of success. 3. Have you checked your menu edit options? The updater may not have caught the version changes and therefore did not automatically update the menu with the correct launchers. You might want to double check that. 4. I found that invoking soffice didn't seem to work, but using this did: /usr/bin/X11/libreoffice4.1 %u This just may be a local quirk though. Anyway, please expand on what is not working, and give the email a meaningful subject line so those who are knowledgeable about the system are more likely to see your request for help. Good luck Heinrich Just taking a rough stab at this ... I think that the way in which you are removing previous installations may be causing a problem. Just as a double check, open up the synaptic package manager GUI and go to "All". In the search box type "libreoffice" (no quotes) and it should filter out all non-LibO files. At the top of the index, click on the installed version to sort and then right click on the little green boxes that show the version installed. For each one that is a LibO file with any suffix (e.g. 3.* or 4.*) select mark for complete removal on the context menu. Then hit apply after approving the summary. Then close. Then go back to your extracted folders and do the cd and the sudo dpkg -i *.deb routines as normal. My experience after following those steps was that LibO4.1 installed, that I didn't have to take the additional step of cd to desktop-integration. Then I edited the panel to have the new launcher and was done. By edit the menus I meant just that. Try under preferences or appearances or even just menu edit. Not using KDE I don't have a clue, sorry. But it will have the functionality. Then you just ensure that the proper menu icons are loaded/ enabled by ticking a selection box or something similar. If, after installing 4.1 the icons still don't trigger the LibO suite, then try /usr/bin/X11/libreoffice4.1 at the terminal and see if anything happens. A glass of beer sounds nice about now :-) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?
That is why we need to include a dependency "script" to help install everything that might be missing before you install LO. Not everyone might have all the dependencies installed. I have one Linux Distro that would tell me a list of the dependencies needed to install the package but would not do so and I had to scramble around to find and install them. On 07/27/2013 10:20 AM, sun shine wrote: I've just installed 4.1 on Squeeze and no problems, although this was using Gnome 2.* DE again. Just a thought: if you have the space, time and patience, you could install the Gnome DE (unless it's already installed by default?) and see if you could install it through that DE. Or even Xfce4 ... it may be library conflict in KDE, such as a missing dependency? On 27/07/13 11:10, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, Not the rpm- but the deb-Version (32bit) on Debian-Wheezy-KDE 4.10. IT STILL DOES NOT WORK!!! Regards Heinrich On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:53:23 +0200, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Mint 14?MATE or Cinnamon desktop environment? I run Ubuntu 12.04LTS with MATE. So the desktop-integration now works properly without the extra step. Yes, the Language Pack before the Help Pack was something that I remember hearing about back in 3.4.x days. Has anyone installed the RPM version of 4.1.0 and had any problems with the desktop-integration? Yes, we need to mention the fact that there will not be the extra step to get the desktop menus to be "installed". On 07/27/2013 03:49 AM, sun shine wrote: Hi Tom Thanks for the heads up. Aside from some minor issues regarding documentation and installation, it seems to work fine. Here's my experience on Mint 14, FWIW: The Read-Me still states: "The following commands will install LibreOffice and the desktop integration packages (you may just copy and paste them into the terminal screen rather than trying to type them): sudo dpkg -i *.deb cd desktop-integration sudo dpkg -i *.deb" Someone who is involved in doc management will have to update this. It would also be helpful for some instruction on how to use the installation script in the folder. The language pack must be installed before the help pack - I can't recall having to do this in a given order before, but maybe I did for previous versions. Other than these minor issues, LibO4.1 seems to work okay so far, so thanks again. On 25/07/13 19:26, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Now that the 4.1.0 has been properly released you might find the proper release has all the desktop integration sorted out now. it might be worth checking if you are keen and have the time Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Italo Vignoli To: annou...@documentfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 13:00 Subject: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.1: a landmark for interoperability The office suite features a large number of improvements which bring compatibility with proprietary and legacy file formats to the next level Berlin, July 25, 2013 - The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 4.1, not only the best but also the most interoperable free office suite ever. LibreOffice 4.1 features a large number of improvements in the area of document compatibility, which increases the opportunities of sharing knowledge with users of proprietary software while retaining the original layout and contents. Interoperability is a key asset for LibreOffice, which is the de facto standard for migrations to free office suites since early 2012. Numerous improvements have been made to Microsoft OOXML import and export filters, as well as to legacy Microsoft Office and RTF file filters. Most of these improvements derive from the fundamental activity of certified developers backing migration projects, based on a professional support agreement. Instrumental for interoperability are also new features such as font embedding in Writer, Calc, Impress and Draw - which helps in retaining the visual aspect when fonts used to produce the document are not installed on the target PC - and import and export functions new in Excel 2013 for ODF OpenFormula compatibility. In addition to interoperability, LibreOffice 4.1 offers a very large number of new features and improvements also in other areas of the suite, which are listed here: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-1-new-features-and-fixes. LibreOffice 4.1 is also importing some AOO features, including the Symphony sidebar, which is considered experimental. LibreOffice developers are working at the integration with the widget layout technique (which will make it dynamically resizeable and consistent with the behaviour of LibreOffice dialog windows). LibreOffice 4.1 arrives at the end of a significant development process, which has just been outlined on the foundation blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-q0. Feature wise, the summary is here: https://www.libreoffice.org/features/why-libreoffice/. In just two months, on September 25, 2013, the Libr
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?
Hi, As a "first installment"... - What goes wrong? Clicking on any of the icons for the various parts of LO doesn't cause anything to come up. Also, there is no "LibreOffice" icon for the complete package, only icons for the various parts... - Yes, I DID delete LO befor trying to install 4.1 (apt-get purge libreoffice*) - I know the aspect of the "desktop-integration" subdirectory existing in prior versions. What do you mean be "seamless ... installation routine"? I ran dpkg -i *deb in all of the three DEBS-directories in the correct sequence (but obviously no dpkg -i *deb within a desktop-integration subdirectory because it does not exist in LO 4.1). Is there anything in addition that I have to do? - How do I check the "menu edit" options? I have reverted back to 3.6.7 now, may uninstall that version completely and try to install 4.1. But - honestly - it is MUCH to hot here at the moment to do so and not to prefer going for a glass of beer... (smiley!) Regards On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:21:44 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 27/07/13 11:10, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, Not the rpm- but the deb-Version (32bit) on Debian-Wheezy-KDE 4.10. IT STILL DOES NOT WORK!!! Regards Heinrich Hello Heinrich Seems like you have been experiencing difficulty with this version for quite some time, IIRC? However, despite your frustration, can you say more precisely is not working. Just to review typical sticking points however, although I'm sure you've gone through these already: 1. Have you deleted your current LibO installation before installing 4.1? If you haven't, this can be done via the synaptic GUI, filtering installed packages, and selecting appropriate files for complete removal and then applying. 2. Did you run the latest release candidate, because the new release build has a seamless desktop-integration installation routine, whereas previous attempts to install always gave install errors. So if you're not using the latest, then you may stand a better chance of success. 3. Have you checked your menu edit options? The updater may not have caught the version changes and therefore did not automatically update the menu with the correct launchers. You might want to double check that. 4. I found that invoking soffice didn't seem to work, but using this did: /usr/bin/X11/libreoffice4.1 %u This just may be a local quirk though. Anyway, please expand on what is not working, and give the email a meaningful subject line so those who are knowledgeable about the system are more likely to see your request for help. Good luck -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?
On 07/27/2013 08:11 AM, sun shine wrote: On 27/07/13 10:53, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Mint 14?MATE or Cinnamon desktop environment? I run Ubuntu 12.04LTS with MATE. So the desktop-integration now works properly without the extra step. Yes, the Language Pack before the Help Pack was something that I remember hearing about back in 3.4.x days. Has anyone installed the RPM version of 4.1.0 and had any problems with the desktop-integration? Yes, we need to mention the fact that there will not be the extra step to get the desktop menus to be "installed". Hey there I'm running the Mate desktop (most Gnome 2.6-like!) on Mint 14 32-bit, and the desktop integration does appear to happen relatively seamlessly. Just an aside, if, like me, one has embedded a launcher for LibO in one's panel, this should be removed and updated via the Add to Panel dialog. In the docs for *.deb systems, the reference to the second step in the installation process references: "cd desktop-integration" and "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" . These lines just need to be deleted. The rest of the text stands. But, as there are no separate docs for the enclosed installation script, could a section be added here in the readme to document the script? Sorry, can't help re: RPMs. I keep the launcher for the main screen and Writer right next to "System" on the top panel. I run 64-bit, but have a few 32-bit systems. I do not use Mint, since for some reason it does not puck up my Canon MX6220 network printer, but will if I plug in the USB cable. But I have been using Ubuntu since at least 9.04. What I do for installs, is un-archive the folder system to my main folder /timothy. Then rename it to "Lib" so I do not need to type long paths. Then I "cd" to the "DEBS" folder to do the "sudo" install. I do similar things with any help pack or language pack I may want. The big problem is, I need to uninstall LO 4.0.3 first before I install 4.04. If I do not, then I get menu issues. Why, I do not know. I just get either error messages when installing the desktop-integration file[s] or when I use the menu it opens the previous version. I know I need to uninstall 4.0.4 if I want to install 4.1.0. I do not like to deal with dual installs at all. I had the same error when I tested Mint and went from the installed version to the newest version of the same line. Yes, I run MATE since I loved the desktop environment of Ubuntu 10.04LTS. That GNOME desktop was what I wanted when I went to 12.04LTS. I tried using Unity on a laptop, but I went to MATE after a few weeks. Did not like Unity at all. Hopefully, the people who are using RPM will get the desktop-integration working soon. I was told there were several different integration files to choose from depending on the version of Linux and the desktop. That may be wrong but it was what I was told a number of months ago. Sometimes it would be nice if there was a script to run instead of you doing everything manually. But, that could be a security issue for some. Every printer driver install, except HP, uses one or two .deb files. HP runs an install script that will download and "make" the driver system for your setup, including downloading any needed packages that you may not have already installed on your system. Although it is a little slower, it seem to make the HP driver "system" match your system and not some generic one. Maybe someone could make a Linux install script to make sure that the needed or optional packages could be installed through a question/answer script. Right now the fact that the Windows 64-bit systems need to have the 32-bit Java installed if you want to use Java for parts of LO, would be a good idea to make an install "script" to install the needed Java package along with LO. It use to be, you had to install Java first or you would get a "freeze" during the install process of LO. Once Java was installed, the LO install would not freeze up. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?
I've just installed 4.1 on Squeeze and no problems, although this was using Gnome 2.* DE again. Just a thought: if you have the space, time and patience, you could install the Gnome DE (unless it's already installed by default?) and see if you could install it through that DE. Or even Xfce4 ... it may be library conflict in KDE, such as a missing dependency? On 27/07/13 11:10, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, Not the rpm- but the deb-Version (32bit) on Debian-Wheezy-KDE 4.10. IT STILL DOES NOT WORK!!! Regards Heinrich On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:53:23 +0200, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Mint 14?MATE or Cinnamon desktop environment? I run Ubuntu 12.04LTS with MATE. So the desktop-integration now works properly without the extra step. Yes, the Language Pack before the Help Pack was something that I remember hearing about back in 3.4.x days. Has anyone installed the RPM version of 4.1.0 and had any problems with the desktop-integration? Yes, we need to mention the fact that there will not be the extra step to get the desktop menus to be "installed". On 07/27/2013 03:49 AM, sun shine wrote: Hi Tom Thanks for the heads up. Aside from some minor issues regarding documentation and installation, it seems to work fine. Here's my experience on Mint 14, FWIW: The Read-Me still states: "The following commands will install LibreOffice and the desktop integration packages (you may just copy and paste them into the terminal screen rather than trying to type them): sudo dpkg -i *.deb cd desktop-integration sudo dpkg -i *.deb" Someone who is involved in doc management will have to update this. It would also be helpful for some instruction on how to use the installation script in the folder. The language pack must be installed before the help pack - I can't recall having to do this in a given order before, but maybe I did for previous versions. Other than these minor issues, LibO4.1 seems to work okay so far, so thanks again. On 25/07/13 19:26, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Now that the 4.1.0 has been properly released you might find the proper release has all the desktop integration sorted out now. it might be worth checking if you are keen and have the time Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Italo Vignoli To: annou...@documentfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 13:00 Subject: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.1: a landmark for interoperability The office suite features a large number of improvements which bring compatibility with proprietary and legacy file formats to the next level Berlin, July 25, 2013 - The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 4.1, not only the best but also the most interoperable free office suite ever. LibreOffice 4.1 features a large number of improvements in the area of document compatibility, which increases the opportunities of sharing knowledge with users of proprietary software while retaining the original layout and contents. Interoperability is a key asset for LibreOffice, which is the de facto standard for migrations to free office suites since early 2012. Numerous improvements have been made to Microsoft OOXML import and export filters, as well as to legacy Microsoft Office and RTF file filters. Most of these improvements derive from the fundamental activity of certified developers backing migration projects, based on a professional support agreement. Instrumental for interoperability are also new features such as font embedding in Writer, Calc, Impress and Draw - which helps in retaining the visual aspect when fonts used to produce the document are not installed on the target PC - and import and export functions new in Excel 2013 for ODF OpenFormula compatibility. In addition to interoperability, LibreOffice 4.1 offers a very large number of new features and improvements also in other areas of the suite, which are listed here: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-1-new-features-and-fixes. LibreOffice 4.1 is also importing some AOO features, including the Symphony sidebar, which is considered experimental. LibreOffice developers are working at the integration with the widget layout technique (which will make it dynamically resizeable and consistent with the behaviour of LibreOffice dialog windows). LibreOffice 4.1 arrives at the end of a significant development process, which has just been outlined on the foundation blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-q0. Feature wise, the summary is here: https://www.libreoffice.org/features/why-libreoffice/. In just two months, on September 25, 2013, the LibreOffice community will gather in Italy at the Third LibreOffice Conference, hosted by the Department of Computer Science of Milan State University. More information on the conference web site at the following address: http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en. The Call for Paper is open until Sunday, August 4. Downloading LibreOffice LibreOffice 4.1 is immediately available for download from the followi
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?
On 07/27/2013 03:49 AM, sun shine wrote: The language pack must be installed before the help pack - I can't recall having to do this in a given order before, but maybe I did for previous versions. Sorry about replying to own post, but have just seen the instruction on the download site: download and install in the following order ... Doh!! Apologies for carelessness. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?
On 27/07/13 11:10, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, Not the rpm- but the deb-Version (32bit) on Debian-Wheezy-KDE 4.10. IT STILL DOES NOT WORK!!! Regards Heinrich Hello Heinrich Seems like you have been experiencing difficulty with this version for quite some time, IIRC? However, despite your frustration, can you say more precisely is not working. Just to review typical sticking points however, although I'm sure you've gone through these already: 1. Have you deleted your current LibO installation before installing 4.1? If you haven't, this can be done via the synaptic GUI, filtering installed packages, and selecting appropriate files for complete removal and then applying. 2. Did you run the latest release candidate, because the new release build has a seamless desktop-integration installation routine, whereas previous attempts to install always gave install errors. So if you're not using the latest, then you may stand a better chance of success. 3. Have you checked your menu edit options? The updater may not have caught the version changes and therefore did not automatically update the menu with the correct launchers. You might want to double check that. 4. I found that invoking soffice didn't seem to work, but using this did: /usr/bin/X11/libreoffice4.1 %u This just may be a local quirk though. Anyway, please expand on what is not working, and give the email a meaningful subject line so those who are knowledgeable about the system are more likely to see your request for help. Good luck -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?
On 27/07/13 10:53, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Mint 14?MATE or Cinnamon desktop environment? I run Ubuntu 12.04LTS with MATE. So the desktop-integration now works properly without the extra step. Yes, the Language Pack before the Help Pack was something that I remember hearing about back in 3.4.x days. Has anyone installed the RPM version of 4.1.0 and had any problems with the desktop-integration? Yes, we need to mention the fact that there will not be the extra step to get the desktop menus to be "installed". Hey there I'm running the Mate desktop (most Gnome 2.6-like!) on Mint 14 32-bit, and the desktop integration does appear to happen relatively seamlessly. Just an aside, if, like me, one has embedded a launcher for LibO in one's panel, this should be removed and updated via the Add to Panel dialog. In the docs for *.deb systems, the reference to the second step in the installation process references: "cd desktop-integration" and "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" . These lines just need to be deleted. The rest of the text stands. But, as there are no separate docs for the enclosed installation script, could a section be added here in the readme to document the script? Sorry, can't help re: RPMs. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?
Hello, Not the rpm- but the deb-Version (32bit) on Debian-Wheezy-KDE 4.10. IT STILL DOES NOT WORK!!! Regards Heinrich On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:53:23 +0200, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Mint 14?MATE or Cinnamon desktop environment? I run Ubuntu 12.04LTS with MATE. So the desktop-integration now works properly without the extra step. Yes, the Language Pack before the Help Pack was something that I remember hearing about back in 3.4.x days. Has anyone installed the RPM version of 4.1.0 and had any problems with the desktop-integration? Yes, we need to mention the fact that there will not be the extra step to get the desktop menus to be "installed". On 07/27/2013 03:49 AM, sun shine wrote: Hi Tom Thanks for the heads up. Aside from some minor issues regarding documentation and installation, it seems to work fine. Here's my experience on Mint 14, FWIW: The Read-Me still states: "The following commands will install LibreOffice and the desktop integration packages (you may just copy and paste them into the terminal screen rather than trying to type them): sudo dpkg -i *.deb cd desktop-integration sudo dpkg -i *.deb" Someone who is involved in doc management will have to update this. It would also be helpful for some instruction on how to use the installation script in the folder. The language pack must be installed before the help pack - I can't recall having to do this in a given order before, but maybe I did for previous versions. Other than these minor issues, LibO4.1 seems to work okay so far, so thanks again. On 25/07/13 19:26, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Now that the 4.1.0 has been properly released you might find the proper release has all the desktop integration sorted out now. it might be worth checking if you are keen and have the time Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Italo Vignoli To: annou...@documentfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 13:00 Subject: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.1: a landmark for interoperability The office suite features a large number of improvements which bring compatibility with proprietary and legacy file formats to the next level Berlin, July 25, 2013 - The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 4.1, not only the best but also the most interoperable free office suite ever. LibreOffice 4.1 features a large number of improvements in the area of document compatibility, which increases the opportunities of sharing knowledge with users of proprietary software while retaining the original layout and contents. Interoperability is a key asset for LibreOffice, which is the de facto standard for migrations to free office suites since early 2012. Numerous improvements have been made to Microsoft OOXML import and export filters, as well as to legacy Microsoft Office and RTF file filters. Most of these improvements derive from the fundamental activity of certified developers backing migration projects, based on a professional support agreement. Instrumental for interoperability are also new features such as font embedding in Writer, Calc, Impress and Draw - which helps in retaining the visual aspect when fonts used to produce the document are not installed on the target PC - and import and export functions new in Excel 2013 for ODF OpenFormula compatibility. In addition to interoperability, LibreOffice 4.1 offers a very large number of new features and improvements also in other areas of the suite, which are listed here: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-1-new-features-and-fixes. LibreOffice 4.1 is also importing some AOO features, including the Symphony sidebar, which is considered experimental. LibreOffice developers are working at the integration with the widget layout technique (which will make it dynamically resizeable and consistent with the behaviour of LibreOffice dialog windows). LibreOffice 4.1 arrives at the end of a significant development process, which has just been outlined on the foundation blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-q0. Feature wise, the summary is here: https://www.libreoffice.org/features/why-libreoffice/. In just two months, on September 25, 2013, the LibreOffice community will gather in Italy at the Third LibreOffice Conference, hosted by the Department of Computer Science of Milan State University. More information on the conference web site at the following address: http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en. The Call for Paper is open until Sunday, August 4. Downloading LibreOffice LibreOffice 4.1 is immediately available for download from the following link: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/. Extensions for LibreOffice are available from the following link: http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center. Changelogs are available at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC1 (changed in 4.1.0.1), https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC2 (changed in 4.1.0.2) and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC3 (changed in 4.1.0
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now?
Mint 14?MATE or Cinnamon desktop environment? I run Ubuntu 12.04LTS with MATE. So the desktop-integration now works properly without the extra step. Yes, the Language Pack before the Help Pack was something that I remember hearing about back in 3.4.x days. Has anyone installed the RPM version of 4.1.0 and had any problems with the desktop-integration? Yes, we need to mention the fact that there will not be the extra step to get the desktop menus to be "installed". On 07/27/2013 03:49 AM, sun shine wrote: Hi Tom Thanks for the heads up. Aside from some minor issues regarding documentation and installation, it seems to work fine. Here's my experience on Mint 14, FWIW: The Read-Me still states: "The following commands will install LibreOffice and the desktop integration packages (you may just copy and paste them into the terminal screen rather than trying to type them): sudo dpkg -i *.deb cd desktop-integration sudo dpkg -i *.deb" Someone who is involved in doc management will have to update this. It would also be helpful for some instruction on how to use the installation script in the folder. The language pack must be installed before the help pack - I can't recall having to do this in a given order before, but maybe I did for previous versions. Other than these minor issues, LibO4.1 seems to work okay so far, so thanks again. On 25/07/13 19:26, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Now that the 4.1.0 has been properly released you might find the proper release has all the desktop integration sorted out now. it might be worth checking if you are keen and have the time Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Italo Vignoli To: annou...@documentfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 13:00 Subject: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.1: a landmark for interoperability The office suite features a large number of improvements which bring compatibility with proprietary and legacy file formats to the next level Berlin, July 25, 2013 - The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 4.1, not only the best but also the most interoperable free office suite ever. LibreOffice 4.1 features a large number of improvements in the area of document compatibility, which increases the opportunities of sharing knowledge with users of proprietary software while retaining the original layout and contents. Interoperability is a key asset for LibreOffice, which is the de facto standard for migrations to free office suites since early 2012. Numerous improvements have been made to Microsoft OOXML import and export filters, as well as to legacy Microsoft Office and RTF file filters. Most of these improvements derive from the fundamental activity of certified developers backing migration projects, based on a professional support agreement. Instrumental for interoperability are also new features such as font embedding in Writer, Calc, Impress and Draw - which helps in retaining the visual aspect when fonts used to produce the document are not installed on the target PC - and import and export functions new in Excel 2013 for ODF OpenFormula compatibility. In addition to interoperability, LibreOffice 4.1 offers a very large number of new features and improvements also in other areas of the suite, which are listed here: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-1-new-features-and-fixes. LibreOffice 4.1 is also importing some AOO features, including the Symphony sidebar, which is considered experimental. LibreOffice developers are working at the integration with the widget layout technique (which will make it dynamically resizeable and consistent with the behaviour of LibreOffice dialog windows). LibreOffice 4.1 arrives at the end of a significant development process, which has just been outlined on the foundation blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-q0. Feature wise, the summary is here: https://www.libreoffice.org/features/why-libreoffice/. In just two months, on September 25, 2013, the LibreOffice community will gather in Italy at the Third LibreOffice Conference, hosted by the Department of Computer Science of Milan State University. More information on the conference web site at the following address: http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en. The Call for Paper is open until Sunday, August 4. Downloading LibreOffice LibreOffice 4.1 is immediately available for download from the following link: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/. Extensions for LibreOffice are available from the following link: http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center. Changelogs are available at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC1 (changed in 4.1.0.1), https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC2 (changed in 4.1.0.2) and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC3 (changed in 4.1.0.3) and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC4 (changed in 4.1.0.4). Support The Document Foundation LibreOffice users, free soft
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now? Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.1: a landmark for interoperability
Hi Tom Thanks for the heads up. Aside from some minor issues regarding documentation and installation, it seems to work fine. Here's my experience on Mint 14, FWIW: The Read-Me still states: "The following commands will install LibreOffice and the desktop integration packages (you may just copy and paste them into the terminal screen rather than trying to type them): sudo dpkg -i *.deb cd desktop-integration sudo dpkg -i *.deb" Someone who is involved in doc management will have to update this. It would also be helpful for some instruction on how to use the installation script in the folder. The language pack must be installed before the help pack - I can't recall having to do this in a given order before, but maybe I did for previous versions. Other than these minor issues, LibO4.1 seems to work okay so far, so thanks again. On 25/07/13 19:26, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Now that the 4.1.0 has been properly released you might find the proper release has all the desktop integration sorted out now. it might be worth checking if you are keen and have the time Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: Italo Vignoli To: annou...@documentfoundation.org Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 13:00 Subject: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.1: a landmark for interoperability The office suite features a large number of improvements which bring compatibility with proprietary and legacy file formats to the next level Berlin, July 25, 2013 - The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice 4.1, not only the best but also the most interoperable free office suite ever. LibreOffice 4.1 features a large number of improvements in the area of document compatibility, which increases the opportunities of sharing knowledge with users of proprietary software while retaining the original layout and contents. Interoperability is a key asset for LibreOffice, which is the de facto standard for migrations to free office suites since early 2012. Numerous improvements have been made to Microsoft OOXML import and export filters, as well as to legacy Microsoft Office and RTF file filters. Most of these improvements derive from the fundamental activity of certified developers backing migration projects, based on a professional support agreement. Instrumental for interoperability are also new features such as font embedding in Writer, Calc, Impress and Draw - which helps in retaining the visual aspect when fonts used to produce the document are not installed on the target PC - and import and export functions new in Excel 2013 for ODF OpenFormula compatibility. In addition to interoperability, LibreOffice 4.1 offers a very large number of new features and improvements also in other areas of the suite, which are listed here: https://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-1-new-features-and-fixes. LibreOffice 4.1 is also importing some AOO features, including the Symphony sidebar, which is considered experimental. LibreOffice developers are working at the integration with the widget layout technique (which will make it dynamically resizeable and consistent with the behaviour of LibreOffice dialog windows). LibreOffice 4.1 arrives at the end of a significant development process, which has just been outlined on the foundation blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-q0. Feature wise, the summary is here: https://www.libreoffice.org/features/why-libreoffice/. In just two months, on September 25, 2013, the LibreOffice community will gather in Italy at the Third LibreOffice Conference, hosted by the Department of Computer Science of Milan State University. More information on the conference web site at the following address: http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en. The Call for Paper is open until Sunday, August 4. Downloading LibreOffice LibreOffice 4.1 is immediately available for download from the following link: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/. Extensions for LibreOffice are available from the following link: http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center. Changelogs are available at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC1 (changed in 4.1.0.1), https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC2 (changed in 4.1.0.2) and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC3 (changed in 4.1.0.3) and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC4 (changed in 4.1.0.4). Support The Document Foundation LibreOffice users, free software advocates and community members can support The Document Foundation with a donation at http://donate.libreoffice.org. Money collected will be used to grow the infrastructure, and support marketing activities to increase the awareness of the project, both at global and local level. Short link to post on TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-qn. -- Italo Vignoli - Director italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org mob +39.348.5653829 - sip it...@libreoffice.org The Document Foundation Zimmerstraße 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bür
[libreoffice-users] desktop integration working now? Re: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.1: a landmark for interoperability
Hi :) Now that the 4.1.0 has been properly released you might find the proper release has all the desktop integration sorted out now. it might be worth checking if you are keen and have the time Good luck and regards from Tom :) > > From: Italo Vignoli >To: annou...@documentfoundation.org >Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2013, 13:00 >Subject: [tdf-announce] LibreOffice 4.1: a landmark for interoperability > > >The office suite features a large number of improvements which bring >compatibility with proprietary and legacy file formats to the next level > >Berlin, July 25, 2013 - The Document Foundation announces LibreOffice >4.1, not only the best but also the most interoperable free office suite >ever. LibreOffice 4.1 features a large number of improvements in the >area of document compatibility, which increases the opportunities of >sharing knowledge with users of proprietary software while retaining the >original layout and contents. > >Interoperability is a key asset for LibreOffice, which is the de facto >standard for migrations to free office suites since early 2012. Numerous >improvements have been made to Microsoft OOXML import and export >filters, as well as to legacy Microsoft Office and RTF file filters. >Most of these improvements derive from the fundamental activity of >certified developers backing migration projects, based on a professional >support agreement. > >Instrumental for interoperability are also new features such as font >embedding in Writer, Calc, Impress and Draw - which helps in retaining >the visual aspect when fonts used to produce the document are not >installed on the target PC - and import and export functions new in >Excel 2013 for ODF OpenFormula compatibility. > >In addition to interoperability, LibreOffice 4.1 offers a very large >number of new features and improvements also in other areas of the >suite, which are listed here: >https://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-1-new-features-and-fixes. > >LibreOffice 4.1 is also importing some AOO features, including the >Symphony sidebar, which is considered experimental. LibreOffice >developers are working at the integration with the widget layout >technique (which will make it dynamically resizeable and consistent with >the behaviour of LibreOffice dialog windows). > >LibreOffice 4.1 arrives at the end of a significant development process, >which has just been outlined on the foundation blog: >http://wp.me/p1byPE-q0. Feature wise, the summary is here: >https://www.libreoffice.org/features/why-libreoffice/. > >In just two months, on September 25, 2013, the LibreOffice community >will gather in Italy at the Third LibreOffice Conference, hosted by the >Department of Computer Science of Milan State University. More >information on the conference web site at the following address: >http://conference.libreoffice.org/2013/en. The Call for Paper is open >until Sunday, August 4. > >Downloading LibreOffice > >LibreOffice 4.1 is immediately available for download from the following >link: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/. Extensions for LibreOffice >are available from the following link: >http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center. > >Changelogs are available at >https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC1 (changed in >4.1.0.1), https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC2 >(changed in 4.1.0.2) and >https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC3 (changed in >4.1.0.3) and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.1.0/RC4 >(changed in 4.1.0.4). > >Support The Document Foundation > >LibreOffice users, free software advocates and community members can >support The Document Foundation with a donation at >http://donate.libreoffice.org. Money collected will be used to grow the >infrastructure, and support marketing activities to increase the >awareness of the project, both at global and local level. > >Short link to post on TDF blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-qn. > >-- >Italo Vignoli - Director >italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org >mob +39.348.5653829 - sip it...@libreoffice.org >The Document Foundation >Zimmerstraße 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany >Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts >Legal Details: www.documentfoundation.org/imprint > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: announce+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/announce/ > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
On 07/20/2013 12:21 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 20/07/2013 at 17:26, "Heinrich Stoellinger" wrote: I downloaded LO 4.1.0-RC3 yesterday. Looking at the files after tar -xvf ... I find that there still is no desktop-integration directory in the main installation tree of files. Is it meant to be like that? You are obviously talking about Linux, but since you did not specify distribution, we have to guess... Anyway, desktop integration packages has been moved from their own directory into packages directory. In Debian and derivatives that is: libreoffice4.1-debian-menus_4.1.0-3_all.deb So we no longer have to do a separate install command for installing the desktop menus? So one "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" is all we need? That would be welcome. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
'Stable version' Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
Hi Girvin, Sorry for jumping in but I read this text from you: Girvin R. Herr wrote (22-07-13 20:50) [...] I cannot shed any light on this specific subject, since I am not using any 4.x LO version. I am keeping with the stable 3.6+ series until 4.1.4+ is released. [...] The 4.0 series is not different from the 3.6 or 4.1 in the sense that you can use a third or fourth bugfix release (so 4.0.3 or 4.0.4) just as fine as the 3.6.4 and later the 4.1.4 . Kind regards, Cor ( Who is doing almost all his professional work on beta versions and release candidates ;) ) -- - Cor Nouws - http://nl.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
Hi :) I think the desktop integration packages normally get added around the time that beta-testing is over. It might have happened earlier in some branches, such as the 4.0.0 but when beta testing it's fairly normal to find one or 2 things are not quite finalised. Normally you just report problem and get on with the rest to see if you can find anything else. Getting bogged down with 1 issue means you miss the chance to explore the rest. Thanks for testing so far though! Good work. Good luck with the rest! :) Thanks and regards from Tom :) > > From: sun shine >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Monday, 22 July 2013, 15:09 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration > > >Girvin > >This is a topic I have some interest in and have been following. > >While I am aware of the capacity to run the soffice script from the >terminal and even creating a custom launcher for the Gnome, XFCE4 and in >Mint, Mate panels, what I am curious about is exactly why doing so is >even necessary in the first place? > >This will have been the first time in my experience of using OOo and now >LibO that doing this manually is necessary, and it makes me wonder what >value the desktop-integration package has if the user still needs to do >this customised approach to get the application to work. > >Are you able to shine any light on the matter? Is this an oversight from >the 4.1. beta developers, a bug, or - a feature? Similarly, any ideas >about why this desktop integration (which doesn't) is only geared for >the KDE and not for Gnome (and Gnome-like) DEs? > >Thanks for any insights you can share. > > > > > >On 21/07/13 20:47, Girvin R. Herr wrote: >> Heinrich, >> Have you tried bringing LibreOffice up with "soffice" in a terminal >> shell, or unambiguously, "/opt/libreoffice4.1/program/soffice" (less >> quotes, of course)? >> If that works, then you could manually add a link in your menu or at >> least an icon on your desktop. >> soffice is the main libreoffice program or, more accurately, script, >> that invokes the other programs (Writer, Calc, etc.). If that program >> is not run first, then the others may not be initialized properly to run. >> >> You could also run writer, calc, etc. from a terminal and see what >> messages are output from it. They may give you a clue as to why it >> isn't running properly. But my bet is on soffice. >> >> FYI: "soffice" is a legacy name from the StarOffice days. Maybe some >> day the devs will get around to changing that - unless it would break >> something. >> >> Hope this helps. >> Girvin Herr >> > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
Heinrich, I am sorry. I misunderstood your intent. Yes, it does seem like a bug and should be addressed. I cannot shed any light on this specific subject, since I am not using any 4.x LO version. I am keeping with the stable 3.6+ series until 4.1.4+ is released. Then I may try it, depending on the complaints I see on this forum. That is just my computer policy. As for desktop integration (DI) being kde-specific, I don't think that is the case. Yes, there were, and still are in the 3.6 series, several versions of desktop integration for the different desktop environments (DEs). However, I just checked my 3.6.6.2 version and there are now only three: freedesktop, mandriva, and suse. There is no kde or gnome-specific version and the freedesktop DI seems to be the coming standard http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ , with mandriva and suse the final holdouts in the 3.6.6.2 case. So, I suspect if you select freedesktop for your gnome DE, it should work for you. It works for my KDE DE. In fact, gnome and kde are now so similar in API (Application Programming Interface) that they will run each others' apps (kde and gtk) and share the desktop directories/links, if not the menus. You may have also read the reply to this thread that the LO 4.1 series no longer has separate DI rpm package files, but has the DI integrated into the main package. I suspect that integration is the freedesktop DI, but that is just a guess. The bottom line is that this problem you are experiencing - not being able to run the main LO program or any of the sub-apps - does seem like a bug to me. Not being able to select a particular DI, may not be a bug, but just evolution. Hope this helps. Girvin Herr sun shine wrote: Girvin This is a topic I have some interest in and have been following. While I am aware of the capacity to run the soffice script from the terminal and even creating a custom launcher for the Gnome, XFCE4 and in Mint, Mate panels, what I am curious about is exactly why doing so is even necessary in the first place? This will have been the first time in my experience of using OOo and now LibO that doing this manually is necessary, and it makes me wonder what value the desktop-integration package has if the user still needs to do this customised approach to get the application to work. Are you able to shine any light on the matter? Is this an oversight from the 4.1. beta developers, a bug, or - a feature? Similarly, any ideas about why this desktop integration (which doesn't) is only geared for the KDE and not for Gnome (and Gnome-like) DEs? Thanks for any insights you can share. On 21/07/13 20:47, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Heinrich, Have you tried bringing LibreOffice up with "soffice" in a terminal shell, or unambiguously, "/opt/libreoffice4.1/program/soffice" (less quotes, of course)? If that works, then you could manually add a link in your menu or at least an icon on your desktop. soffice is the main libreoffice program or, more accurately, script, that invokes the other programs (Writer, Calc, etc.). If that program is not run first, then the others may not be initialized properly to run. You could also run writer, calc, etc. from a terminal and see what messages are output from it. They may give you a clue as to why it isn't running properly. But my bet is on soffice. FYI: "soffice" is a legacy name from the StarOffice days. Maybe some day the devs will get around to changing that - unless it would break something. Hope this helps. Girvin Herr -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
Girvin This is a topic I have some interest in and have been following. While I am aware of the capacity to run the soffice script from the terminal and even creating a custom launcher for the Gnome, XFCE4 and in Mint, Mate panels, what I am curious about is exactly why doing so is even necessary in the first place? This will have been the first time in my experience of using OOo and now LibO that doing this manually is necessary, and it makes me wonder what value the desktop-integration package has if the user still needs to do this customised approach to get the application to work. Are you able to shine any light on the matter? Is this an oversight from the 4.1. beta developers, a bug, or - a feature? Similarly, any ideas about why this desktop integration (which doesn't) is only geared for the KDE and not for Gnome (and Gnome-like) DEs? Thanks for any insights you can share. On 21/07/13 20:47, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Heinrich, Have you tried bringing LibreOffice up with "soffice" in a terminal shell, or unambiguously, "/opt/libreoffice4.1/program/soffice" (less quotes, of course)? If that works, then you could manually add a link in your menu or at least an icon on your desktop. soffice is the main libreoffice program or, more accurately, script, that invokes the other programs (Writer, Calc, etc.). If that program is not run first, then the others may not be initialized properly to run. You could also run writer, calc, etc. from a terminal and see what messages are output from it. They may give you a clue as to why it isn't running properly. But my bet is on soffice. FYI: "soffice" is a legacy name from the StarOffice days. Maybe some day the devs will get around to changing that - unless it would break something. Hope this helps. Girvin Herr -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
Heinrich, Have you tried bringing LibreOffice up with "soffice" in a terminal shell, or unambiguously, "/opt/libreoffice4.1/program/soffice" (less quotes, of course)? If that works, then you could manually add a link in your menu or at least an icon on your desktop. soffice is the main libreoffice program or, more accurately, script, that invokes the other programs (Writer, Calc, etc.). If that program is not run first, then the others may not be initialized properly to run. You could also run writer, calc, etc. from a terminal and see what messages are output from it. They may give you a clue as to why it isn't running properly. But my bet is on soffice. FYI: "soffice" is a legacy name from the StarOffice days. Maybe some day the devs will get around to changing that - unless it would break something. Hope this helps. Girvin Herr Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, The system on which I am trying to get LO 4.1-RC3 to run is: Linux Debian Wheezy with KDE 4.10, latest software levels. I first removed LO 3.6.2 using "apt-get remove libreoffice*" and then installed 4.1-RC3 using "dpkg- i *deb" from within all three directories in the correct sequence. The installation went smoothly - no hick-ups! Now I find LO 4.1 within the programme start menu of KDE (under office applications). To be precise - everything is there (base, writer, impress, etc.) except the icon for LibreOffice itself (like it used to be under 3.6). When I now try to start Writer, nothing at all happens. The same is true when trying to start the other components... Any help is appreciated. Regards from sunny and hot Salzburg H. Stoellinger On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:22:08 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 20/07/13 19:06, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 20/07/2013 at 19:51, "Kracked_P_P---webmaster" wrote: So we no longer have to do a separate install command for installing the desktop menus? So one "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" is all we need? Yes, this is how it is supposed to work. (There are some bugs in rc3 that causes package conflicts with earlier version of LO, so running this command might run you into trouble.) On the other hand: if you are like me and you keep different LO versions installed for testing purposes, then you must take extra care to not install desktop-menus and not pollute your working environment with unnecessary menu entries. But since this is not use-case for most of users, I believe change is for good. In which case the installation notes for the 4.1 for *.deb need to be updated since they still give the two separate commands, the second suggesting cd to the desktop-integration directory before issuing the second sudo dpkg -i *.deb command. Cheers -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
On 21/07/13 12:18, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hi, Well, I suppose you have a MySQL database running? If so, you have to define an LO-Base-database (file->new database). Then you have to choose the Native MySQL connection, server parameters (such as server name, MySQL- database name, password, port (3306)). Let me know if you have any trouble - because I could of course remove 4.1 und install 4.0.4 myself. Thanks a lot regards H Hi again No I am not running a MySQL dB, however, if it worked under 4.0 through 4.0.3 then there should be no reason that it wouldn't do so also under 4.0.4 as well. If you haven't already done so, browse the read mes and change logs, but I can't see any mention of any changes to MySQL connectivity when I went through them. Good luck A On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:40:17 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 21/07/13 10:14, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, Do you know whether the native MySQL connector works under LO 4.0.4? If it does I will try THAT release, otherwise I will revert to 3.6.2 - which works just fine. Regards H Hi Heinrich No I don't know specifically - if you tell me how to check I will do so and come back to you. A On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:06:35 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 21/07/13 09:34, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, The system on which I am trying to get LO 4.1-RC3 to run is: Linux Debian Wheezy with KDE 4.10, latest software levels. I first removed LO 3.6.2 using "apt-get remove libreoffice*" and then installed 4.1-RC3 using "dpkg- i *deb" from within all three directories in the correct sequence. The installation went smoothly - no hick-ups! Now I find LO 4.1 within the programme start menu of KDE (under office applications). To be precise - everything is there (base, writer, impress, etc.) except the icon for LibreOffice itself (like it used to be under 3.6). When I now try to start Writer, nothing at all happens. The same is true when trying to start the other components... Any help is appreciated. Regards from sunny and hot Salzburg H. Stoellinger Same here Heinrich - which is precisely the same problem I experienced when I tried installing 4.1 about a month ago. This is why I thought a desktop-integration directory was still required. The current installation does not support Gnome (or related) menus, does not seem to trigger any application to launch. The read me's and installation documents still refer to a separate desktop integration command, and if one is to use the installation file, there is no clear indication of how to do so. I'm happy enough to beta test, but would like to know how to install the application to get it to start in the first place. Anyone out there who has successfully gotten the 4.1 to install and start on a Debian type system? I'm running Mint 14, and at this point in time am stymied, so I'm reverting back to 4.0.4 which seems to be pretty stable and installs and works as one has come to expect of LibO. On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:22:08 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 20/07/13 19:06, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 20/07/2013 at 19:51, "Kracked_P_P---webmaster" wrote: So we no longer have to do a separate install command for installing the desktop menus? So one "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" is all we need? Yes, this is how it is supposed to work. (There are some bugs in rc3 that causes package conflicts with earlier version of LO, so running this command might run you into trouble.) On the other hand: if you are like me and you keep different LO versions installed for testing purposes, then you must take extra care to not install desktop-menus and not pollute your working environment with unnecessary menu entries. But since this is not use-case for most of users, I believe change is for good. In which case the installation notes for the 4.1 for *.deb need to be updated since they still give the two separate commands, the second suggesting cd to the desktop-integration directory before issuing the second sudo dpkg -i *.deb command. Cheers -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
Hi, Well, I suppose you have a MySQL database running? If so, you have to define an LO-Base-database (file->new database). Then you have to choose the Native MySQL connection, server parameters (such as server name, MySQL- database name, password, port (3306)). Let me know if you have any trouble - because I could of course remove 4.1 und install 4.0.4 myself. Thanks a lot regards H On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:40:17 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 21/07/13 10:14, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, Do you know whether the native MySQL connector works under LO 4.0.4? If it does I will try THAT release, otherwise I will revert to 3.6.2 - which works just fine. Regards H Hi Heinrich No I don't know specifically - if you tell me how to check I will do so and come back to you. A On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:06:35 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 21/07/13 09:34, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, The system on which I am trying to get LO 4.1-RC3 to run is: Linux Debian Wheezy with KDE 4.10, latest software levels. I first removed LO 3.6.2 using "apt-get remove libreoffice*" and then installed 4.1-RC3 using "dpkg- i *deb" from within all three directories in the correct sequence. The installation went smoothly - no hick-ups! Now I find LO 4.1 within the programme start menu of KDE (under office applications). To be precise - everything is there (base, writer, impress, etc.) except the icon for LibreOffice itself (like it used to be under 3.6). When I now try to start Writer, nothing at all happens. The same is true when trying to start the other components... Any help is appreciated. Regards from sunny and hot Salzburg H. Stoellinger Same here Heinrich - which is precisely the same problem I experienced when I tried installing 4.1 about a month ago. This is why I thought a desktop-integration directory was still required. The current installation does not support Gnome (or related) menus, does not seem to trigger any application to launch. The read me's and installation documents still refer to a separate desktop integration command, and if one is to use the installation file, there is no clear indication of how to do so. I'm happy enough to beta test, but would like to know how to install the application to get it to start in the first place. Anyone out there who has successfully gotten the 4.1 to install and start on a Debian type system? I'm running Mint 14, and at this point in time am stymied, so I'm reverting back to 4.0.4 which seems to be pretty stable and installs and works as one has come to expect of LibO. On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:22:08 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 20/07/13 19:06, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 20/07/2013 at 19:51, "Kracked_P_P---webmaster" wrote: So we no longer have to do a separate install command for installing the desktop menus? So one "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" is all we need? Yes, this is how it is supposed to work. (There are some bugs in rc3 that causes package conflicts with earlier version of LO, so running this command might run you into trouble.) On the other hand: if you are like me and you keep different LO versions installed for testing purposes, then you must take extra care to not install desktop-menus and not pollute your working environment with unnecessary menu entries. But since this is not use-case for most of users, I believe change is for good. In which case the installation notes for the 4.1 for *.deb need to be updated since they still give the two separate commands, the second suggesting cd to the desktop-integration directory before issuing the second sudo dpkg -i *.deb command. Cheers -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
On 21/07/13 10:14, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, Do you know whether the native MySQL connector works under LO 4.0.4? If it does I will try THAT release, otherwise I will revert to 3.6.2 - which works just fine. Regards H Hi Heinrich No I don't know specifically - if you tell me how to check I will do so and come back to you. A On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:06:35 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 21/07/13 09:34, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, The system on which I am trying to get LO 4.1-RC3 to run is: Linux Debian Wheezy with KDE 4.10, latest software levels. I first removed LO 3.6.2 using "apt-get remove libreoffice*" and then installed 4.1-RC3 using "dpkg- i *deb" from within all three directories in the correct sequence. The installation went smoothly - no hick-ups! Now I find LO 4.1 within the programme start menu of KDE (under office applications). To be precise - everything is there (base, writer, impress, etc.) except the icon for LibreOffice itself (like it used to be under 3.6). When I now try to start Writer, nothing at all happens. The same is true when trying to start the other components... Any help is appreciated. Regards from sunny and hot Salzburg H. Stoellinger Same here Heinrich - which is precisely the same problem I experienced when I tried installing 4.1 about a month ago. This is why I thought a desktop-integration directory was still required. The current installation does not support Gnome (or related) menus, does not seem to trigger any application to launch. The read me's and installation documents still refer to a separate desktop integration command, and if one is to use the installation file, there is no clear indication of how to do so. I'm happy enough to beta test, but would like to know how to install the application to get it to start in the first place. Anyone out there who has successfully gotten the 4.1 to install and start on a Debian type system? I'm running Mint 14, and at this point in time am stymied, so I'm reverting back to 4.0.4 which seems to be pretty stable and installs and works as one has come to expect of LibO. On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:22:08 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 20/07/13 19:06, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 20/07/2013 at 19:51, "Kracked_P_P---webmaster" wrote: So we no longer have to do a separate install command for installing the desktop menus? So one "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" is all we need? Yes, this is how it is supposed to work. (There are some bugs in rc3 that causes package conflicts with earlier version of LO, so running this command might run you into trouble.) On the other hand: if you are like me and you keep different LO versions installed for testing purposes, then you must take extra care to not install desktop-menus and not pollute your working environment with unnecessary menu entries. But since this is not use-case for most of users, I believe change is for good. In which case the installation notes for the 4.1 for *.deb need to be updated since they still give the two separate commands, the second suggesting cd to the desktop-integration directory before issuing the second sudo dpkg -i *.deb command. Cheers -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
Hello, Do you know whether the native MySQL connector works under LO 4.0.4? If it does I will try THAT release, otherwise I will revert to 3.6.2 - which works just fine. Regards H On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 11:06:35 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 21/07/13 09:34, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, The system on which I am trying to get LO 4.1-RC3 to run is: Linux Debian Wheezy with KDE 4.10, latest software levels. I first removed LO 3.6.2 using "apt-get remove libreoffice*" and then installed 4.1-RC3 using "dpkg- i *deb" from within all three directories in the correct sequence. The installation went smoothly - no hick-ups! Now I find LO 4.1 within the programme start menu of KDE (under office applications). To be precise - everything is there (base, writer, impress, etc.) except the icon for LibreOffice itself (like it used to be under 3.6). When I now try to start Writer, nothing at all happens. The same is true when trying to start the other components... Any help is appreciated. Regards from sunny and hot Salzburg H. Stoellinger Same here Heinrich - which is precisely the same problem I experienced when I tried installing 4.1 about a month ago. This is why I thought a desktop-integration directory was still required. The current installation does not support Gnome (or related) menus, does not seem to trigger any application to launch. The read me's and installation documents still refer to a separate desktop integration command, and if one is to use the installation file, there is no clear indication of how to do so. I'm happy enough to beta test, but would like to know how to install the application to get it to start in the first place. Anyone out there who has successfully gotten the 4.1 to install and start on a Debian type system? I'm running Mint 14, and at this point in time am stymied, so I'm reverting back to 4.0.4 which seems to be pretty stable and installs and works as one has come to expect of LibO. On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:22:08 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 20/07/13 19:06, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 20/07/2013 at 19:51, "Kracked_P_P---webmaster" wrote: So we no longer have to do a separate install command for installing the desktop menus? So one "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" is all we need? Yes, this is how it is supposed to work. (There are some bugs in rc3 that causes package conflicts with earlier version of LO, so running this command might run you into trouble.) On the other hand: if you are like me and you keep different LO versions installed for testing purposes, then you must take extra care to not install desktop-menus and not pollute your working environment with unnecessary menu entries. But since this is not use-case for most of users, I believe change is for good. In which case the installation notes for the 4.1 for *.deb need to be updated since they still give the two separate commands, the second suggesting cd to the desktop-integration directory before issuing the second sudo dpkg -i *.deb command. Cheers -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
On 21/07/13 09:34, Heinrich Stoellinger wrote: Hello, The system on which I am trying to get LO 4.1-RC3 to run is: Linux Debian Wheezy with KDE 4.10, latest software levels. I first removed LO 3.6.2 using "apt-get remove libreoffice*" and then installed 4.1-RC3 using "dpkg- i *deb" from within all three directories in the correct sequence. The installation went smoothly - no hick-ups! Now I find LO 4.1 within the programme start menu of KDE (under office applications). To be precise - everything is there (base, writer, impress, etc.) except the icon for LibreOffice itself (like it used to be under 3.6). When I now try to start Writer, nothing at all happens. The same is true when trying to start the other components... Any help is appreciated. Regards from sunny and hot Salzburg H. Stoellinger Same here Heinrich - which is precisely the same problem I experienced when I tried installing 4.1 about a month ago. This is why I thought a desktop-integration directory was still required. The current installation does not support Gnome (or related) menus, does not seem to trigger any application to launch. The read me's and installation documents still refer to a separate desktop integration command, and if one is to use the installation file, there is no clear indication of how to do so. I'm happy enough to beta test, but would like to know how to install the application to get it to start in the first place. Anyone out there who has successfully gotten the 4.1 to install and start on a Debian type system? I'm running Mint 14, and at this point in time am stymied, so I'm reverting back to 4.0.4 which seems to be pretty stable and installs and works as one has come to expect of LibO. On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:22:08 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 20/07/13 19:06, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 20/07/2013 at 19:51, "Kracked_P_P---webmaster" wrote: So we no longer have to do a separate install command for installing the desktop menus? So one "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" is all we need? Yes, this is how it is supposed to work. (There are some bugs in rc3 that causes package conflicts with earlier version of LO, so running this command might run you into trouble.) On the other hand: if you are like me and you keep different LO versions installed for testing purposes, then you must take extra care to not install desktop-menus and not pollute your working environment with unnecessary menu entries. But since this is not use-case for most of users, I believe change is for good. In which case the installation notes for the 4.1 for *.deb need to be updated since they still give the two separate commands, the second suggesting cd to the desktop-integration directory before issuing the second sudo dpkg -i *.deb command. Cheers -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
Hello, The system on which I am trying to get LO 4.1-RC3 to run is: Linux Debian Wheezy with KDE 4.10, latest software levels. I first removed LO 3.6.2 using "apt-get remove libreoffice*" and then installed 4.1-RC3 using "dpkg- i *deb" from within all three directories in the correct sequence. The installation went smoothly - no hick-ups! Now I find LO 4.1 within the programme start menu of KDE (under office applications). To be precise - everything is there (base, writer, impress, etc.) except the icon for LibreOffice itself (like it used to be under 3.6). When I now try to start Writer, nothing at all happens. The same is true when trying to start the other components... Any help is appreciated. Regards from sunny and hot Salzburg H. Stoellinger On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 20:22:08 +0200, sun shine wrote: On 20/07/13 19:06, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 20/07/2013 at 19:51, "Kracked_P_P---webmaster" wrote: So we no longer have to do a separate install command for installing the desktop menus? So one "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" is all we need? Yes, this is how it is supposed to work. (There are some bugs in rc3 that causes package conflicts with earlier version of LO, so running this command might run you into trouble.) On the other hand: if you are like me and you keep different LO versions installed for testing purposes, then you must take extra care to not install desktop-menus and not pollute your working environment with unnecessary menu entries. But since this is not use-case for most of users, I believe change is for good. In which case the installation notes for the 4.1 for *.deb need to be updated since they still give the two separate commands, the second suggesting cd to the desktop-integration directory before issuing the second sudo dpkg -i *.deb command. Cheers -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
On 20/07/13 19:06, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 20/07/2013 at 19:51, "Kracked_P_P---webmaster" wrote: So we no longer have to do a separate install command for installing the desktop menus? So one "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" is all we need? Yes, this is how it is supposed to work. (There are some bugs in rc3 that causes package conflicts with earlier version of LO, so running this command might run you into trouble.) On the other hand: if you are like me and you keep different LO versions installed for testing purposes, then you must take extra care to not install desktop-menus and not pollute your working environment with unnecessary menu entries. But since this is not use-case for most of users, I believe change is for good. In which case the installation notes for the 4.1 for *.deb need to be updated since they still give the two separate commands, the second suggesting cd to the desktop-integration directory before issuing the second sudo dpkg -i *.deb command. Cheers -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
On 07/20/2013 02:06 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: On 20/07/2013 at 19:51, "Kracked_P_P---webmaster" wrote: So we no longer have to do a separate install command for installing the desktop menus? So one "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" is all we need? Yes, this is how it is supposed to work. (There are some bugs in rc3 that causes package conflicts with earlier version of LO, so running this command might run you into trouble.) On the other hand: if you are like me and you keep different LO versions installed for testing purposes, then you must take extra care to not install desktop-menus and not pollute your working environment with unnecessary menu entries. But since this is not use-case for most of users, I believe change is for good. What I now do is test a version on a different system than my main desktop. For my Debian-based systems, I now uninstall LO before I install the new version. This solves some integration issues that sometimes come up and the fact that sometimes my systems think I still want to run the previous version, say 4.0.3, when I just installed 4.0.4. I run Ubuntu 12.04 with MATE desktop and Win7 [in a few flavors]. Ubuntu on my main desktop [5 TB in 3 drives] and two dual booting laptops, plus a couple of other systems that are used only for specific functions- like media streaming or demoing. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
On 20/07/2013 at 19:51, "Kracked_P_P---webmaster" wrote: > So we no longer have to do a separate install command for installing the > desktop menus? So one "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" is all we need? Yes, this is how it is supposed to work. (There are some bugs in rc3 that causes package conflicts with earlier version of LO, so running this command might run you into trouble.) On the other hand: if you are like me and you keep different LO versions installed for testing purposes, then you must take extra care to not install desktop-menus and not pollute your working environment with unnecessary menu entries. But since this is not use-case for most of users, I believe change is for good. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
On 20/07/2013 at 17:26, "Heinrich Stoellinger" wrote: > I downloaded LO 4.1.0-RC3 yesterday. Looking at the files after tar -xvf > ... I find that there still is no desktop-integration directory in the > main installation tree of files. Is it meant to be like that? You are obviously talking about Linux, but since you did not specify distribution, we have to guess... Anyway, desktop integration packages has been moved from their own directory into packages directory. In Debian and derivatives that is: libreoffice4.1-debian-menus_4.1.0-3_all.deb -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] desktop-integration
Hello, I downloaded LO 4.1.0-RC3 yesterday. Looking at the files after tar -xvf ... I find that there still is no desktop-integration directory in the main installation tree of files. Is it meant to be like that? Regards H. stoellinger -- Erstellt mit Operas revolutionärem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
